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Topics include, in first part of talk, how we tend to question the work we do; importance of communication in work. In part two, sense of humor as essential to working situations; how to take an aerial view, panoramic awareness, which allows us to open within work situation. In discussion periods, topics include the nature of bewilderment; question of our existence; role of space in unraveling confusion; importance of being in the present moment; the bodhisattva vow and being involved in helping the world.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Work, Sex, Money","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 10"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: WORK, SEX, MONEY: Chapter 6: The Nowness of Work; Chapter 16: Karma\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/work-sex-money-1735.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 10 (in contained book WORK, SEX, MONEY)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-volume-10-15032.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 09 2025 to Mar 17 2026 Transcribing: JP Glutting Checking: Nancy Roberts Final Proof: Ella Milligan Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R5"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA two-part talk on work, with extensive discussion periods on either side. Topics include, in first part of talk, how we tend to question the work we do; importance of communication in work. In part two, sense of humor as essential to working situations; how to take an aerial view, panoramic awareness, which allows us to open within work situation. In discussion periods, topics include the nature of bewilderment; question of our existence; role of space in unraveling confusion; importance of being in the present moment; the bodhisattva vow and being involved in helping the world.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260428-880-9w7hyz.mpga"]},"duration":7357.85796,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/308/259/original/open-uri20260428-880-9w7hyz.mpga?1777400237","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":7357.85796,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19710830VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19710830VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Work Sex Money II - Talk 3]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled Work, Sex, Money II, given at Karme Choling in Barnet, Vermont. This is Talk Three, \"The Nowness of Work,\" given on August 30th, 1971. This is a CTI remaster made March 2026.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on Work, Sex, and Money held at Tail of the Tiger, Vermont in August 1971. This will be the third lecture, August 30th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=0.0,34.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: PRE-TALK DISCUSSION]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Did you put enough light?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Not quite.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Do you want more light?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I think if we get more light, we might get more rain. [sound of rain intensifying] [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: That's fun. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Have your movie developed? Your film developed? The last one? Further one?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Came out well? [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You should see it. We have to try and get a projector--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I'd like to see it. I'd be nice.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Very amateur.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm. Where were we?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Bewildered.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Bewildered. TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Bewildered? [Laughter] Yeah. SPEAKER3: Confused. SPEAKER2: Need energy.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Need energy.\r\n\r\n\r\nDid you wanted to discuss anything with what we did yesterday? Anybody like to have any further subjects?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=34.0,188.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: I want to ask a question. Paranoia seems like a word that is getting bigger and bigger. It seems to be covering everything and it's very confusing to me. I like to ask for examp-- I mean everything belongs to paranoia, it seems to me, as a... And what is the relationships between mindfulness and paranoia?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The question is, \"Does paranoia belong to paranoia itself?\" [Laughs; laughter] Does it?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Well, there is such a thing as mindfulness, that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, doesn't matter about that, but the question of paranoia. Does paranoia belong to paranoia itself? Or it had to ma-- it had to develop on some other situations? Is there such thing as self-sufficient paranoia?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There isn't? So that seem to be the whole point. That paranoia needs to be supported by something else. So paranoia is sort of infant from this point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Paranoia is an infant?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Helpless child.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=188.0,296.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: You said yesterday that the people in the religions which teach this seeking after bliss, the basic weakness in the teaching is that of the paranoia of the mind that wants to stay in that state. What-- I mean, considering that men have been taking these various teachings with those very strong commitment to basic sanity, I think -- you know, the Hindu teachings or... Why have they missed an obvious situation or have they missed it? I mean what is there about the mahayana that-- so is it just a matter of discovering what's already there that no one else had picked up on it? [Sound of heavy rain] [Laughter; chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [UNCLEAR: Mike?], you want me to go back and get that light that Susie had? Maybe you can arrange it so it hits the ceiling and doesn't shine on anybody's eyes. It's awful bright. We could put it up on the post facing the ceiling if you want us, and then it would reflect down to here.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: This will be over within another half hour or so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=296.0,415.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Whose infant is the paranoia?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Whose infant, this paranoia?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Whose infant? You said \"helpless infant\".\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Paranoia itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah. Who is the mother or the father? Where is it? What's the ground for it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is it-- it's \"that\" and \"this\".\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: \"That\" and \"this\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, \"that\" and \"this\". Duality. That's nice, more intimate. [Laughter] By nature. Nature brings us together. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Sound of rain; chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Have we digged something around the tent?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Yeah. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: A trench there. [Sound of rain]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=415.0,521.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see your question is that there is a tremendous temptation-- or attempt has been made to convert people into your faith, your teaching. And there's more than necessary attempt to be made trying to speak their language. That somehow on the way that missed the point. That spirituality is becoming a good citizen, good businessman.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah, but what I meant was like-- well it seemed to me that say 5,000 years of Hinduism, and somewhere along the line some guy sitting in his blissful thing would have to say, \"Well gee, I'm feeling very paranoid about losing this.\" And that's like, he's neurotic. Because there is a-- these guys seem to have -- the ones I've met anyways -- seem to have a very definite commitment to sane behavior, you know, and dealing with these neurotic aspects of ego. And yet, it doesn't seem to happen.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It did happen in many cases, yeah. I mean there are lot of great teachers on the way, you know, all along. And if you check the historical process, happened like that. That's why in the Hindu mythology Buddha was accepted incarnation of Vishnu, because he shed light on basic pattern of something. I mean he could be regarded as a rebel, like Jews might regard Christ as rebel. But he came through, somehow or other -- by his devious way -- [laughter] and he wasn't crucified.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: He's also supposed to be an incarnation of Vishnu, Jesus.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Is there something very basic though? Like, say Christianity seems to be almost-- regardless of the purity of its source, if that means anything, it's-- you can see almost in the teaching where it plays upon spiritual materialism. It really has no way of transcending it, from what I understand of the teaching, which is [INAUDIBLE]. And in other teaching too, it doesn't seem to be part of the teachings, transcending this blissful state. Or is it...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Except for Meister Eckhart.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Well Eckhart didn't transcend it either.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Disinterestedness is a higher virtue than love. [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: He seemed to be much more into union, I thought, [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the-- it seems that in many cases the mystical teachings are later development. Newertraditions, like Vedantic teachings, as well as like Sufi teachings and Vajrayana teaching, are later development. That people begin to see the patterns, original implication of the teaching somehow is gone astray. And there must be something beyond than that. And the people begin to feel that essence much more. I mean that's quite a universal thing, that mystical teachings after the founding of the church, almost to the point of being rebellious ones.\r\n\r\n\r\nLike for instance in the Buddhist tradition, like Saraha disrobed and Naropa left his order. And one of the song of Saraha says that, \"Up to now, I was good monk, I was a puritanical monk. From now, I am good monk, I'm a spontaneous person.\" And such a song was sang [sic]. You know, there's always this kind of rediscovery of what was, the ultimate essence of the teaching. And somehow that pattern goes on, always. That is kind of discovery of the paranoia, fundamentally. That teachings that been presented superficially become so corrupted, in a sense, that it become too literal. That literal quality become, gradually, too obvious, that people have to step into another dimension of pattern, discovering the paranoia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=521.0,819.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Didn't Milarepa say that he meditated for fear of hell and for fear of samsara?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, he did say that. And then he says, \"I feared so much so, and finally I made a friend with death-- I made friends with death.\" If you read a little further from that passage... [laughter; laughs] \"So now I'm fearless,\" he says.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: But that's-- but a little farther past that passage, [laughter] doesn't he say it in the present tense? \"That I,\" no, \"I continue to meditate out of fear of death.\" He says it as if he were paranoid.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, he didn't say that. Not at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I'm-- my mistake.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. He didn't say that. \"Now, I'm fearless. Because I was so-- been frightened of hell and death, and everything, pain. And I have thought or contemplate on it -- on and on, and often and often. And finally I made friends with them. So now I am on the castle of fearlessness.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=819.0,892.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What is the difference between bewilderment and confusion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that bewilderment is first stage of not knowing what's happening. The confusion is trying to relate from there, trying to relate with your expressions, and conflict between the expression and identity. That's the-- confusion is the second stage; bewilderment seem to be the first stage. It's very subtle differences, but almost the same.\r\n\r\n\r\nConfusion only could come from realize that you're in a state of bewilderment, fail to relate with anything. So many elements coming through you, passing through you. So, there's that tendency of sort of utter bewilderment which is the confusion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=892.0,962.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Is that initial bewilderment innocent, in a sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which one?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: The sort of primal bewilderment you were talking about yesterday.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's the-- first stage of bewilderment is the bewilderment state: not knowing whether \"I\" exist or not. And second stage, whether-- how \"I\" relate with \"that\" and \"this.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: So in a sense it's free of self-consciousness. But it's at the stage of creating--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see bewilderment doesn't contain self-conscious at all. It's completely egoless state, therefore it happens to be bewilderment.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But that's the state from which you start creating the self and [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, and then after that when you begin to establish some identity... The whole point is that bewilderment is regarded as-- then very cunning trick develops and give up all searching for anything. \"I don't care whether I do exist or not, but there is *something*. So let's call that as 'me'. And then my relationship to that is confusion.\" Still not knowing exactly, but then stumbling along.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: So you just sort of accept that you are a self?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Accept that there is an ambivalent self, sort of. In a sense, by innuendo, that you know that you are selfless person. But at the same time, by innuendo, you wanted to accept you are selfish person, that you have some identity.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So in undoing confusion one-- must one go back to bewilderment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely. Exactly, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=962.0,1083.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Confusion is a manifestation of the ego? Or connected to it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: And bewilderment isn't?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Bewilderment is the actual, so-called ego. That we do not know exactly whether we call it ego or whether we call it selflessness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What's the difference between that and the \"cloudy mind\" that he talks [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well cloudy mind seem to be the confusion itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Not the bewilderment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not bewilderment. It's a secondary development.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So that's definitely the ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's we have found something to somewhere to relate with something. Whether you're relating with the bewilderment as yourself, or whether you're relating -- whatever its may be.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Is the--\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JEFF ELLIS: Is the bewilderment a bardo state?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JEFF ELLIS: Is the bewilderment a bardo state?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's sort of a primordial bardo state, but not bardo in the sense of its higher peak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=1083.0,1156.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Does the meditation-- our idea of self come when intelligence doesn't-- there seem to be like a separation between intelligence and energy, as you said yesterday. That you still need the energy for the intelligence to act. But if the intelligence identifies the energy then you have a self idea. Is that right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: You see this terrific flow of energy around you and you-- the intelligence identifies with some part of that, and at that moment you have a self but you also have the ability to act.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Yes, mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=1156.0,1193.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Is this bewilderment a self-conscious state? In other words, am I aware of the feeling of bewilderment following...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I don't know if I know what you're talking about or not. And I feel like I ought to before we go on. I don't know if I've experienced it or if it's just a word I don't connect with my own self.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, bewilderment is before you begin self-consciousness, because self-consciousness is actual paranoia.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Well, could it be what I experience in meditation when I'm not particularly aware of existence? I mean I'm not aware of nonexistence? I mean I just pictured a lack of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Uncertainty. *Some* uncertainty, but very discomforting one. It's like knife edge, razor edge. That you are not quite certain whether you have some basis to work on your being, or whether you don't have any basis to work on your being. Not knowing whether-- what you are, before the self-conscious begin. But that is-- has the element of self-consciousness in it as well. It's very, very subtle differences. It's a sort of blankness at the beginning.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: So, from the standpoint that I see that I feel anger. And yet when I look to see who's feeling the anger there's no one there feeling the anger. From that standpoint?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Then I'm confused as to what does exist in me? Or what is actually-- is this going to [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, bewilderment is-- there's longing to label on something but not finding the label, put on any particular category. That kind of uncertainty. But there's still desire to put label on something. Very vaguely, extremely subconscious way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Do you have to go through all the labels, first, before you realize that there aren't any more labels? Or can you just go beyond that and just realize that there aren't any labels before you really have, you know, tried labeling it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you don't have to go through them, but you begin to see the irrelevant aspect of the labels at the beginning. So labels doesn't make-- mean anything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What are the other possibilities from bewilderment, apart from the subconscious and paranoid, confusion, and so on? What's the other possibilities?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In what sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well, there must be an alternative, otherwise we wouldn't be discussing it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there doesn't seem to be any alternative, except absence of bewilderment. [Laughs; laughter] That's why it's whole unique situation. I mean that sort of allows so primordial truth could exist on one level without alternatives. Either \"yes\" or \"no\", both are truths.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=1193.0,1429.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Is there any difference between having flashes of open space in the midst of bewilderment, or having flashes of bewilderment in the midst of open space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's saying the same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Oh, right. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Is the paranoia also an expression ultimately imbued in the confusion made of bewilderment, since it also depends on uncertainty?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It is. It's-- in other word, it's sort of-- you have bewilderment as sort of infant. And then you develop shell outside your body, which is paranoia, to protect that confusion. So make it-- confusion is standing point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: It sounds like confusion is a false answer to the question in the bewilderment.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: But then why is it so inevitable?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Inevitable. Everybody, without exception, goes from bewilderment--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean, because desperately looking for some answer, something to label yourself. So therefore it's purely a sort of stage prop, rather than something solid and fundamental. Confusion's not solid and fundamental at all, it's a temporary measure, game.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=1429.0,1558.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Is there any purpose-- or is there any reason to try to work with the-- something like bewilderment going to-- from a theoretical aspect? For instance, trying to relate what you said in Colorado about the bardos -- because it was just brought up. For instance the-- what you said about the human realm? It seems there's a relationship there between that and this thing of not knowing whether you exist or not. Or is it only of value to work with it in terms of meditation? Is there a place for thinking about it or connecting theory?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think any connecting theory involved with that, except the-- this is what we are trying to work it, is a sort of on a practical level. Bewilderment can only be found, it finally could be only found from work, money, and sex. And that's the whole differences. This answer could be only found-- only could be seen as it is by actual application of our everyday life.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Not theorizing...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not theorizing, no.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: What about [INAUDIBLE] in meditation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well meditation becomes a part of it, yeah, as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Does that also hold true when you-- after being bewildered, you are not bewildered [INAUDIBLE], which is-- I mean, the energy still happens in your daily life?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Of course, that's the whole point. It doesn't have to be a tremendous come down. [Laughs] It continues. It's a matter of attitude, matter of perception. When that perception is turned into a different area, the whole setup is still there. Energy and creative situations -- everything's there -- but you've seen in a different way altogether.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Is the bewilderment an aspect, a neurotic aspect, of paranoia? Or is it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's the kind of embryonic state of neurosis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=1558.0,1706.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: This is also fundamental, but I was hit with it yesterday. And just exactly what do we mean by saying [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's losing the distance, relationship of situation of distance. I mean losing the concept of space, altogether, so one doesn't quite-- uncertain-- one doesn't quite know that whether there is bewilderment state of mind or whether there isn't, whether you are imagining the whole thing. That kind of uncertainty is the neurosis; possible seed of losing point, losing touch with reality, which is neurosis.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: That sounds like bewilderment, itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely. It is. Neurosis is bewilderment, but bewilder[ment] needn't be neurosis. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=1706.0,1791.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: What do you mean by space? When there's no bewilderment or confusion or...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's-- I suppose we could term-- we could call it in terms of confident. The fearlessness quality is the space. That there is creative room. We don't have to rush into something trying to work out. Because bewilderment area is very claustrophobic. Everything's is so much too close, and you don't know where you are. Whether you are-- whether-- what you-- what comes ahead of you, front of you, is whether space or confusion, one is not quite certain. It's too closed-in situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Is this more openness, space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Space is more openness, seeing the irrelevant of the bewilderment, if you see that way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Is there space between the energy and the intelligence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there's space in everywhere.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: How does the energy direct-- I mean how does the intelligence direct the energy if the [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well otherwise there's no room to move about, naturally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=1791.0,1872.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Where does the intelligence come from?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: From nowhere. [Laughter] It's primordial intelligence, it's just there. It comes from nowhere. That's why it becomes natural intelligent-- natural intelligence. Ener-- intelligence without center and fringe. It's like space. Wherever space permeate, that in itself, every corner of space is the center and fringe at the same time. Intelligence that way, as well as the energy. It's all-pervading. Center is everywhere and fringe is everywhere, so it's-- that's why all-powerful and all-pervading.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: And that the point is to connect with that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One doesn't have to connect with that, necessarily. It's just to acknowledge that, I suppose you could call it. To be that. But one doesn't have to tune oneself into it as though it's a foreign element. When there is no labeling and the conceptualizing notions of anything, then you are there already. It's uncovering rather than creating something.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: It would seem, in that case, the ego doesn't stand a chance. I mean [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Theoretically it shouldn't.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: If it moves towards space [laughter] it meets basic insanity. If it moves outside its [INAUDIBLE], it meets basic insanity. [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely. That's why everybody says you are Buddha already. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Aside] I'm going to visit my friend. [Laughter; chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=1872.0,1989.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --irrelevance. [inaudible chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Could you elaborate on that? That kind of attitude and movement [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Irrelevant. Well... [sound of sudden pouring rain] according to Saraha and other great teachers, would say that it's useless. It isn't there anymore. It's purely imaginary thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The bewilderment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Which is true.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is bewilderment and-- or are bewilderment and confusion associated with anxiety and fear? Or not necessarily?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it is connected with-- I would say the-- it's the seed of the anxiety and fear. But it's-- fear and anxiety hadn't come to materialize yet as vivid as used to be, as it is. But it has the potential of it. It's the basic ground, the embryonic state of the fear and anxiety, rather.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: When it's not there anymore, what's there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nothing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's as easy as that. Literally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=1989.0,2109.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: As we described work yesterday, it seemed to be a fairly mechanical thing. That is, that where the energy is needed, the energy flows, because something-- nature doesn't like a vacuum or whatever. If there's a space that needed energy, and it flows in there. Given that situation, why concern ourselves about it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: About work?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah. Or sex or money. Why not just-- if there's a need, it flows to that place; and if there's not, it doesn't. So--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's true, but we deliberately trying to ignore that, that whether there's need or not at all. We don't see as far as that. We refuse to see that way. Refuse work and everything is-- something-- had to be something based on strategy and not a flowing process.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But is that-- even that a part of the flowing process?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, you can't go as far as that. I mean there is danger, like these true stories I'm sure that you've read in-- I mentioned in MEDITATION IN ACTION. You remember the story of two students who went to one person, and one murdered the other one's-- their teacher? And he-- and that sort of story.\r\n\r\n\r\nThe teacher says that if you remain in the state of \"tathata,\" the \"isness\" of everything, then whatever you do, it is like cloud in the sky. And that's the perfect practice of the yogi. But you could interpret that you just do nothing and wait. Or you involve yourselves into situation and be part of it, which is also natural state of isness, as well. So that's the two differences.\r\n\r\n\r\nYou see there again, another question is the body situation, physical body situation. Which also provides another aspect of the whole step. If the-- if body is involved with the situation then body demands work, money, sex. And one can't ignore that. And application of body and mind could work on the inspiration of open space. Which is a spontaneous thing, so you don't have to restrain your body in order to work, but you just work when work's there. Work present itself naturally. Making money comes in spontaneous natural process. If you have to feed your body, if you have to work along with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=2109.0,2304.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: So then there's no reason particularly to-- if we need money, to go out looking for it. Or whether it's just to be open to the situations that come up. Because if there's a need that situation will arise where we can sort of see it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It wouldn't be as easy as that. Whole thing wouldn't be very comfortable situation at all. If there is a-- if there's need of money, that the money wouldn't just come without getting yourself into situation -- at least some effort. I mean if you are hungry and if you open your mouth, food wouldn't come into your mouth at all. [Laughter] You have to go out and cook it. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah, the striving of looking for the situation -- is that necessary, to strive to look for the situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It isn't striving anymore. It's-- situation present another situation. It's unfolding situations. So in other word, not reject any kind of possibilities of anything. And don't expect comforting home will provide anything-- everything sort of first class service [laughs; laughter] because you involved with the spirituality of regarding everything's spontaneously happen. Doesn't work that way. [Laughter] It's like-- you see, music doesn't happen unless you dance. That's the situation. So, in order to hear music you have to dance.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But it seems like the universe, like external to myself, is constantly creating situations that seem to fit my needs. Or am I just going along with--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah but--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: –-my delusions. Because like, seems like--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: --this comes up. And if I do this, then that happens, and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, but you have to acknowledge them. You have to recognize them. Recognize means discipline of some kind. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But the discipline is a purely negative one, of not placing obstacle?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Discipline is just getting into it. As scriptures would say, it's like-- discipline is like swan has automatic reaction to go to water, the vultures have automatic reaction to go to charnel ground. Involving yourself in it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Just not being--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean certain lazy vultures may not go to charnel ground, but [laughter] you have to push yourself into it. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But it seems to involve a state where they're grasping though rather than--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, I mean we have to speak the language of the body, which is also language of karma, samsara.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=2304.0,2484.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Is there some way we could turn that around so it's a giving too?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somewhere what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: We could turn that around so it's a giving-- like, I know in Zen training they-- the relation to food is one eats in order to do something, in order to get on with it. Or the Hindu people are feeding their-- you know are feeding Krishna when they eat. It's an offering type thing. Which regardless of it always seem to be a-- that there is a giving.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, well, I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I mean, turning this around so that it drops away rather than being [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the whole thing is-- all the topic that we are going to discuss, seems we discussed already, is related with learn to love yourself. Be friend with yourself. Learn how to be friend with ourselves. And you can sacrifice anything for your friend. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=2484.0,2561.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: In your book, MEDITATION IN ACTION, you are-- you say the work has to be done by the student, after all. That the teacher provides inspiration, situation with-- and you said it's very hard work. It's manual work. Well, I'd like to know how does one find out that of this hard work? Is it going-- recognizing a stress or a resistance in oneself? And-- because there's a certain comfort in functioning in old patterns, habits, recognizing a stress and going against it, there is some-- it seems to me some effort has to be made. And this may be a very painful effort. And I don't know exactly what is involved.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there's a natural tendency of expecting automatic, comforting situations provided for you, prefabricated ones for you. And there's another situation that that situation could be created by you, and then it's going to be flowing process. And there's a tremendous battle between the two -- whether you are getting into the prefabricated situation or whether you go into the manual situation of creating by-- the situation by yourself. That doesn't mean to say that you have to create the whole situation. But you have to acknowledge, you have to set the wheel in motion, to begin with. Something. Which is very difficult for a person to do, generally, because they rather lie back in their comforting home that was already provided. That's kind of two alternatives. And often this comforting home is referred as the arrow of Mara, the evil one. Temptation. Which also provides very comforting situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: How does one recognize-- is recognition-- if the recognition has to be inward, one has to recognize some dynamics in oneself. It's a feeling. And that's what I would like to know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Is it recognizing there is a governing resistance, and you break through this resistance?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, you see, fundamentally this realization of absence of ego is not pleasant. It's rather terrifying. Because that mean that there's nothing. Very horrifying. But if one has go-- one is able to go through that terror, and beyond that realization of nobody, of-- or open space, without any chance to turn off to sidetracks, then you evolve yourself through it. Which is sort of breakthrough, you know. That's the very point that what we're trying to point out in terms of work, you know. That's what I'm trying to bring at, is that there is this open space. Which is not very-- not particularly pleasant one, but something vast, gigantic. Something all-pervading. And one have to go through the resistance of fear of experiencing that. And then beyond that then there is possibilities of creating your own ground in the complete open space.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: You even have to accept the possibility of a temporary disintegration; in fact, there is a temporary disintegration.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, of course. I mean, things we would like to do is-- we purely only like to do because there is a very heavy dualistic \"that\" and \"this\" relationships involved. Therefore we would like to magnify \"that\". That we never look to the other aspect of it at all. So therefore there had to be some surrendering, some sacrifice. That's precisely mean when we hear so much things been said about renunciation, renunciation of that particular seduction, which is the ultimate renunciation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=2561.0,2839.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: It seems that if we could see why we were doing it, it might be more possible to just go ahead and do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, again the question of \"why?\" could be all sorts of answers. Of maintaining yourself, sustaining your ego, all sorts of other alternative motive could be there, ulterior motives. So the point is that--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Money comes from the ego? I mean, why should my ego give up, you know? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why not? [Laughter] Or why should? Same thing. Why we should put ourselves into that kind of decisions anyway? A certain stage, \"why\" becomes nothing. It doesn't become question anymore -- becomes a statement. It's like the practice of self-inquiry: \"Who am I\". As long as person regarded that \"Who am I\" practice is question, he will never get anything out of it. The minute when person begin to realize \"Who am I\" is a statement rather than question, then you are there. It's mantra.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: We could do that again another way. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't know. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=2839.0,2985.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But if we could see the goal, then we'd be more [laughter] willing...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I see what you mean. But problem is then what shall we do after we got to the goal? It's like you got a PhD degree. Then you have to look for jobs. Or turn into farming -- something else -- waitress. [Laughter] You see one-- as long as there's a goal that means there's dead end; all roads lead to dead end, even if it's highway. No matter how big the road is there's always dead end. You can't go too far, finally you come to your ocean. You can't drive any far, you have to come back.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Then what? You come to a dead end, and then you have to come back and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Then you have to come back. You are disappointed because you have a target in your mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: You can drive into the ocean.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's suicidal. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well what is this connection with? That the idea that the whole purpose of spiritual development is to open oneself up to the goodness all around us. So we be-- you know become--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the whole spiritual--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: --be able to contact and have it part of us?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The whole spiritual search should be aimless. Yeah, precisely. Otherwise it cease to become spirituality, because spirituality is limitless. If you have an aim, and object and target, then it become battle. For that matter, you might anything in life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=2985.0,3125.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, is there anything that can possess a goal in man besides the ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is there anything what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is there-- like, the essence of man, can that possess a goal? Or is it only the ego that can possess a goal?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I didn't quite get it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Like, there's a lot of talk about goals. What I'm asking, isn't ego the only thing that can have a goal, that can create a goal?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Yes, because you have somebody, from here, this end, to go there. If you have this end, therefore that you must have that end, naturally. So then whole spiritual practice becomes very much of battle, hope and fear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=3125.0,3180.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: What about the relation of this goal thing to, say, something you're doing, working in the world? [INAUDIBLE] you shouldn't do that because you shouldn't want it, because you shouldn't desire that. And so it's almost implying you shouldn't do anything, because that would-- having a goal. But can't you understand that as just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see that's not the point. It's *who's* doing it. That's the important point, rather than you shouldn't be doing it. Which means you have already accept that somebody's doing it anyway, which doesn't led you-- lead you anywhere. But *who's* doing it? Is there anybody who doing it? Is there really solid person who had-- ambitious person who had a particular goal in mind? And if you find that, then look into that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=3180.0,3238.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Is the bodhisattva's vow ego goal?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Theoretically it shouldn't be. It depends on all types of bodhisattvas. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: No, I mean if there is somebody here saying \"I vow this--\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, nothing wrong with that. SPEAKER4: --and saying \"there's a goal. I'm trying to relieve..\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean nothing wrong with the word, say \"I\". That's okay. Of course there's somebody. Sure. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But isn't it self-defeating? I mean it's like [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, not at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: --you're trying to save all sentient beings. They can't be saved.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All sentient beings?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Well, that's one translation of the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: You know, and as long as you're-- one is trying to do this, well then it's impossible for it to be done, because you're so busy doing it. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So busy doing it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I mean if you're doing something that can't be done, because you're doing it, right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, yeah. So what? What about that? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Like if you're talking about that only the ego can have this goal. And so is-- if you're-- as long as you're busy doing something, you're also equally busy maintaining the ego that's doing it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, bodhisattvas would say that, \"I surrender myself. And I've seen glimpse of egolessness. Therefore this egolessness is advancing its territory, much more greater than I could imagine, ever imagine. Whole sentient beings, as far as the sky or the space extend, that much sentient beings, I'm going to help them.\" You have to have a great-- the great vision of absolute infinite feeling. That infinite feeling of that you're going to save all sentient beings cannot be dis-- cannot be-- come to its conclusions unless you have seen the infiniteness of the inwardness as well. That there's no end that-- in this end either. Therefore there's no end there, so therefore whole thing's equal.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: The bodhisattva's just working on himself, that this is redefining--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, bodhisattva working just there. [Laughs] I mean he's fulfilling his needs everywhere. Wherever there's help is needed, he provides his help. That's actual infinite space.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: This is identification with the guy doing the help or with the one needing the help?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One needing the help. Because that's the whole point, you see. The other point is that you help people because, \"I want to be-- I want to see a person happy,\" which is entertaining yourself. So we just help because of that help is needed to be there. It doesn't matter whether you want to be happy, you want to see that person be happy, that \"I want that person to be happy.\" But that's sort of relative-- relating situation doesn't apply anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=3238.0,3436.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: How about an artist--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Just that--\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: How about an artist, let's say, who has a goal? The goal is inside of himself. He knows it's not himself, strictly speaking, it's not an ego goal. But there's something there, it's his job to dig it up, and to find out which-- this is-- he could say that this is an ambition. It's not really an ambition, though. But it's going towards-- I think on a lesser scale it is very much like a bodhisattva, because this was-- he lends himself--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because he what?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: He lends himself. He yields to something that is already there. But you wouldn't say that that's ambition, would you? That going to a goal?]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it depends on how much he's involved with his work of art.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: It's not entirely his.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if that's completely true then he produce a masterpiece.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Mhmm. Is that what you are trying to do with us?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose, yeah. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=3436.0,3514.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 27]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: What do the words have to do with--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Words in ceremonies. Saying words like \"I surrender myself,\" have to do with--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, words are regarded as exactly the same as that thing we been discussing about. \"Who am I\" as being statement rather than question. That kind of sacredness of actually saying it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: So the different ceremonies, for instance, that are spoken of in [THE] JEWEL [ORNAMENT OF LIBERATION], where they-- where certain things are spoken three times. That's actual-- the words have some value then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: From that point of view, purely from that point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: For-- to yourself, that-- in other words you're saying them to yourself? Are you saying them to someone else?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're just uttering.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Just like a– like the mantra?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=3514.0,3581.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 28]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: This thing about the bodhisattva vow. It always seemed to me a tremendous contradiction, in the sense that what-- if you're saying \"I will not go into complete nirvana until all sentient beings are liberated--\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --that means we all go in one big plop. [Laughter] In other words, everything is existing, and then all of a sudden \"poof\", you know. In other words, [Laughter] it implies a goal. It implies that this whole thing of like Teilhard de Chardin--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: de Chardin.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --you know, the Omega Point. That everything's going to this and that it's not simultaneously existing all the time. Is it just to open up that space so that you get the panoramic view of everything in totality? That you take that kind of literal vow? Or is there something to that? Or is there a goal? Or what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you wouldn't have a goal. And the person who realize that he's-- what he's trying to say is actually completely impractical. [Laughter] You can't really do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat's the mythical story of Avalokiteshvara. He had a literal mind at the beginning. He took that vow. He said, \"Until I can save all six realms of world I will not attain enlightenment.\" And he worked and worked and worked, he helped, and he thought he saved hundreds of millions of being. And suddenly when he turned around and he saw there's further, greater than he saved are still suffering, and he has flicker of doubts. [Laughter] And that point-- that at the beginning, he said that, \"If I don't save-- if I have any doubts in my path, may my head fall into thousand pieces like a jeuta fruit,\" particular fruit. And this vow came true at the time. That he-- head begin to fall apart. [Laughter] And he was in tremendous pain of confusion, not knowing what he was doing.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut then according to the myth Amitabha present himself there and says that \"now, you've been foolish. You didn't take a vow literally, you took a vow as limitless compassion.\" And suddenly he realized he had developed a recognition of that. And he developed a thousand times more powerful. That's why the image of Avalokiteshvara have thousand arms and twelve heads. It is the cause of that, it's the-- that story. You see, once you begin to take whole thing literally, somehow you lose the sacredness of that situation. But if you're able to see situation could apply to every situation, then it becomes limitless. And you don't attain enlightenment at all, but you find yourself enlightened certain stage, because you put your effort into in such a concentrated way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=3581.0,3816.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 29]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What you're saying then, the bodhisattva vows are an expression of a path rather than a goal.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Expression of path?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah. This is what I'm walking on. This isn't where I'm going, necessarily.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's right. So he realize that his path is also goal. That he's quite happy with what he's trodding on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But that's all there is.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exactly, precisely. That's-- there is.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: I mean, eternally. Because sentient beings, being numberless, would eternally have to be worked on. And that's all. They exist as energy--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exactly, yeah. SPEAKER17: --[INAUDIBLE] work.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Then, if you give into that...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's acceptance of the energy. \"I take a vow to commit myself with this vast energy.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: In other words you're not going to work for five days -- no matter how long those five days are -- and then have a weekend to rest, or two weeks vacation. It's just forever, and that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Twenty-four hours work.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Eight days a week. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So we can't have part-time bodhisattvas. [Laughter; chatter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=3816.0,3899.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 30]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Well, when you say that spirituality has to be aimless, is that the same thing as saying when you say that it's truly a recognition of the energy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exactly, yeah. The energy is limitless. And then you begin to develop clear and precise understanding of the nowness. Now is everything. Whatever you do, that very moment is everything. Is past. Is future. Is now. So you develop tremendous confident that what you're doing is true and honest and absolutely realistic thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But if we focus on the now, nothing comes into focus. It's like listen to piece of music, and you hear each sound as it comes. You don't hear the piece of music.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You do. Don't you?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: No. You are just hearing sound as it comes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you mean do you imagine future music?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Huh?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What happens to the music to come? Does that become-- can you hear that as well? Or did you hear the music of the now, when you listen to piece of music?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well, it seems there's some choice there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think there's any choice.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: That you listen moment by moment. It's combined, so each sound as it comes, we never get the piece of music as a whole. On the other hand if you are sort of remembering and anticipating, then you get some sense of the pattern.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But you're anticipating-- but at the same time you are anticipating in the presence of situation there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Very word of \"anticipating\" means you are there. I mean, you can't hear music in advance at the same time you're hearing the present music, at that time. Or you can't undo the past of the music that you heard already. You can't do that. You hear the music of the moment. That means everything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well I only get any sense of patterns and talk through memory. If I'm not remembering anything, if I'm just focused on now, there's then no patterns. It's just pure bewilderment.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: It's interesting to talk about [INAUDIBLE] in that, especially like in some of the Eastern music that it's very obvious that you are receiving a vibrational wave. And the only way you can really pick up on it is to give it up as soon as it comes through. And it's just-- you know, it's just moving without you listening -- without even listening. The best way to listen to music is not to listen for it, I think. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Let it happen, be part of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Another sidetrack. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=3899.0,4076.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 31]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: In regard to the self-inquiring technique in regard to emotions. If I'm in pain for example, and I ask \"who's in pain\", or I make the statement, it seems to-- well it takes away from the intensity of it. And so you don't-- perhaps I don't experience it as fully as if I didn't ask that, [INAUDIBLE], whatever.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's providing questions that generally are very healthy ones, you know: \"what\", \"who\", \"why\". If you regard them as a statement, they provide tremendous space. Also of course you could say that provides space of bewilderment, but at the same time it provides also space of openness. When the questions turn into a statement, that is gap. Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=4076.0,4142.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 32]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Could you return to the subject of memory and anticipation, and how *now* there's-- how we can-- how you're squeezing it together is-- how you're putting it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you don't have to squeeze them together. I mean it's-- now is not that tiny. [Laughs; laughter] It's a vast thing. What's the problem?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Well, it seems that the past-- what memory is, is the past.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah? But there again--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Without-- if I'm focussing on sound, I'm concentrating on some sound, what occurred previously to the sound alters my perception of what I'm focussing on now, correct?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because there's now?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Right. If what happened previously didn't happen or I wasn't there, then what I'm focusing on now would not be the same, correct?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: So, this seems to be a... [Laughing] So now is totally relative to the past. And so--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Totally what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: [Laughing] Totally relative to the past, it's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Is that where the past is? It's in the present?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: There's nothing, though, it's just all relative to the past. That seems--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How about the future, on the other hand?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: That's also all relative.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The future just seems like another form of the past.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Yeah. SPEAKER2: It's a special way of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --looking at the past.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So, past and future can't exist without now. There you are. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah, I get that. But now seems to be able to exist without past and future.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Now what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I can see there's no past and future without now, but I don't quite see how these-- I think now can be without past and future.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Isn't it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Otherwise they cease to become past and future. Otherwise cease to become past and future. That you have no criteria, at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=4142.0,4323.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 33]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Aren't we talking about direct experience, or the lack of it? Direct experience is always only now. You don't have a direct experience of the past or the future.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, you don't.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: They're abstractions. But they're not-- but it's very difficult sometimes to get to the direct experience. Or you don't-- you can't try to get to it, it just happens.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It depends on the present, always.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: It seems that all your-- what feels like a present experience are past. Because by the time your senses work--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's present experience--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: You know, like--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --at the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: --light gets into your eye. And then it changes into electrical forces, go to your brain, your brain interprets it. By the time you perceive it, it's already in the past. It's never in the present, it seems, unless you could have consciousness in some other sort of way besides your perceptions.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Yeah, beyond the senses.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: And when you have no memories, then it seems like it's the present. It seems. [Laughter; chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I mean, you still got-- you know, no matter all that stuff going through your eyes, which are changing all the time too, with the present. It's all change. But yeah, and-- but you still got-- there still has to be that moment of recognition, that spark. Which is just to be now, sooner or later. [Laughs; laughter] And we can put it to all you want. There's still a point where you see, or you speak, or you hear -- or something. There is something.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Except that now it's a perception of the past, in sort of--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Perhaps.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: You're right. It's always now. [Laughter] But you're still perceiving thepast.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Does ego--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Perceiving with the mind, as an organ, separate from the other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=4323.0,4437.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 34]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: There seems-- the reason-- I mean it seems to be some choice there. I mean, otherwise there's no problem. There seems to be some choice in how you relate to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: --the memories, of the future--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think there is any choice at all. It's a-- now is all the time choiceless. Now is choiceless. There's always now. Always now. Past form takes, and the memories take, relation to situation of now. And the future takes also relation to situation of now. So there's always this-- precision is all the time there, which helps us to relate with the other situations, all the time. Because then we know where we are, where we at, how we relate with other things. Of course, by the time you try to relate to other things that actual experience has gone past. But still there is some anchor somewhere -- of now, now, now. It goes on all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=4437.0,4505.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 35]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: There's still a relationship, like the first line of the Dhammapada, \"All we are is the result of what we have thought,\" indicates a past-present relationship. That the past seems to be giving birth to the present.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, that's based on the present, largely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: If we want to know where we've been, look where we are now. [INAUDIBLE] [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well, it seems a little-- you know, there seems to be a little contradiction between the notion that there's no choice, which I can understand, and the fact-- I mean we do meet, discuss and all, because we feel we-- there are some choice, and we want to make the right choice.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We want to make the right choice.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Want to make--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's depends on how much you are accurately with the now.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=4505.0,4557.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 36]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: To be accurately with now--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Now.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: --you would have to be existing in the space because the conceptions aren't of the now? In other words, you said when you drop the conceptions the space opens up. Is that space of the now?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Comes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: If you're in that space, then you're being in the present. Is that true?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the conceptions comes from, seem to be, either future or past. And somewhat they don't apply now. But the absence of the conceptions makes-- helps lot. The absence of conceptions also becomes source of learning, which is now. So in a sense, indirectly, you could say the conceptions also helped. But also, the absence helped as well, not only their existence.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It seems to me inevitably there has-- there's some rhythm between a kind of immediate attention, what you just [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Immediate attention, yeah. Exactly, yeah. And some other process of reflection or anticipation--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --and you have to go back and forth.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: That's right? TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In the present moment.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: How can you--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: In the present moment you're going back and forth?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughing] You can't back and forth in present moment. Present moment is only thing. That's one thing. Once you go back and forth then you imagining back and forth, rather than being in the present moment. That's why it is choiceless. Minute when you begin to speculate, that's past already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=4557.0,4678.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 37]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: How does the idea of things being choiceless-- I mean come with-- when you have to make what we would commonly call choices? I mean, can you-- you have to think, in other words.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you--\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Can you be in the now and be thinking, at the same time, about a practical problem?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would say you perceive rather than you think. Now can be only perceived, rather than thought of. Minute when you *think* of now, that's a double-take.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: That's useless?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's useless, already.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: We can only perceive work being done, but if we're working we've blown it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We can what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: We can only then perceive work being done, but if we are working, we've kind of blown it, because we're tied up in our thought process of \"I am working\" rather than that \"this is what's happening.\" If I'm working then there's past, present, and future.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. You can work in now.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Well, if I'm going to chop down a tree I've got to have an idea it's going to fall.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. Depends on what's happening with the tree at that moment.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: In terms of good and bad karma, to be in the now is to be absolutely careless as to what karmas you've created.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Now is never careless. If you perceive now as it is, it's always right on the spot.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: So, in the case of practical problems -- like for example, a couple of days ago I had a telephone call, as a result of which I felt that I had to decide whether to go to Boston or not. So, that has the appearance to me of being a choice. And suppose-- now how can I be in the now with that choice? With that appearance of choice?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's why you made a choice. You can only make a choice of what was, what is at that moment.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: But I feel the pull, and I feel the choice.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But you still made a choice, right? But actually you didn't really make the choice, it just happened that way. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But that's [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, not at all. Because you saw the situation precisely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Is that deterministic then? That there's only one possible outcome to any situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Always. Always there is that. But that doesn't mean to say you be governed by [INAUDIBLE] thing. And possibilities of carelessness in all the choices comes from past and future. Dreams.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=4678.0,4856.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 38]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Rinpoche? One time, on an acid trip, I was sitting next-- near a jukebox. And all of a sudden I realized there was this vast space that I had just gone through, between the vibrations -- not even the beats of the song but the vibrations of the music. And it had-- it seemed like two or three minutes. And then I went \"wow\" with that recognition, and the music was just at its normal pace again. Was that space the space of now? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somehow that does-- seems like that there's also imaginary quality involved as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: It just seemed like that but could be imagination.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: I felt, when I thought about it later, that just between those vibrations there was enough time to get up and go to the bathroom and come back. [Laughter] It never occurred to me--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's why it's imaginary.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: --that I haven't been able to do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's why it's imaginary.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Imagination?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Imagination.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: It's like looking at a whole feast from a pedestal. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=4856.0,4944.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 39]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Would you speak a bit more about imagination?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we're getting side-tracked.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Is there a main track that we should be on?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah -- the seminar. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Seems that we haven't been anywheres near it since we started. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Beg pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Seems like we haven't been anywheres near it since we started. Work, sex, or money, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I know. [Laughs; laughter] Day is getting older. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: It would seem that it's not so much-- [laughter] That like imagination is probably one of the most enjoyable parts of sex.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Enjoyable part of sex? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah. [Laughter] Just sit around and fantasize for a half an hour before you get on with it, you know. [Laughter; chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can we talk that later? We talk that later. [Laughter; chatter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=4944.0,5043.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK PART ONE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we could begin with work today. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=5043.0,5070.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems a quite good point to work-- talk about through the nowness we discussed already. I think that provides very good ground in terms of discussing about work. But there's other-- different aspects of work. Whether we do it impulsive work, that suddenly you like to feel-- be helpful to somebody and get up and wash out somebody's dishes. Or there is very draggy situation, that you are supposed to do this certain things and you do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=5070.0,5124.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Problem comes is that, again, it's based on precision. That as lot of great teachers would say that, \"Not beginning is the best. If you have to begin, then accomplish it.\" So that lot of people involved with the situation of work, is they present themselves to their situation, and then they question about it: should they involve with that, or shouldn't they involve with that. And that's somehow undermining the present situation where they are, where they're at. So, as long as that you are in that situation of working, potential work or potential service, then since we can't change that situation, unless we pack our bags and escaped from that situation. But then you create another situation. So situation is perpetually created.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=5124.0,5208.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that it seem to be-- as far as work contains, largely that what we are talking I suppose is in terms of a domestic need -- running of household, life situation, or organization. That once we are already at the situation of such setup, that there's certain need to be open to it. Open in a sense of relating yourself with the situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=5208.0,5252.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And of course there's often great problems of who's the house mother, who's the housewife, and who's the boss in the organization. And just wait for the person to tell you what to do until one's-- you feel that you've gained something by not working there, able to escape their eyes. There's a notion of \"them\" and \"me\". Somehow, that whole thing is based on that kind of relational situations, that we are not able to escape from that situation in any way. If you regard the place need certain effort, certain help, although that you haven't been approached by them, but still that your presence occupies tremendous space. Your whole being is there, and we are right there in that very moment. And we are breathing the same air in the house, we are sharing the same roof. It's the point, like the thing we discussed the other day, a choice between being nuisance or open. And such situation is always relevant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=5252.0,5351.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, let's say that a person want to be nuisance, wanted to have a good time there without working. Okay, go ahead, do it. It wouldn't be very luxurious situation at all. Because the moment when you try-- when you decide to be nuisance, who cares? \"I'm going to make-- have a good time here. And I'm not going to do any work, I'm not going to relate myself with the situation here at all. I'm just me. I'm having good time.\" And then the next situation is of course always, is that every corner of the room is begin to haunt us. That imaginary housewives coming to you, approaching you. Or imaginary wardens of the place, or imaginary trustees, or [laughter] whoever they may be, coming to you with horns and tails. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=5351.0,5423.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Something begin to bug us. So, we are not really having good time as we wanted at the beginning. Unless that person had developed such skill of insensitivity, absolute insensitivity, of really just camping in a place by ourselves, [laughs] as independent unit. But somehow, there again, that also requires certain amount of inspirations and intelligence to camp in that place. Which, again, means that you are not blunt and insensitive person at all, have to have some intelligence. As long as there's intelligence that means there's that much paranoia involved, all the time. So it seems that being nuisance is not particularly fun. Although ideally that it might be fun doing nothing and just breathing some air and being there, present ourselves as lump sum.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=5423.0,5509.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's other alternative, in terms of work, is that trying to communicate. Again, trying to communicate and trying to be of service as trying to be useful, may not be particularly inspiring at all. As though that you have a gigantic head, walking with two feet and approaching somebody, \"What can I do for you?\" [Laughter] You feel so thingy, heady. [Laughs; laughter] But still, in spite of this inconvenience, [laughs; laughter] person might pursue it, pursue the whole thing. Well, of course then there's an interchange of who's playing game to who, and all sorts of things. But at the same time there is way of adapting oneself to such situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=5509.0,5621.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's relating situation. It's not so much of the work, that you should be useful in that place all the time. But you should be communicating to the situation of the work, the given situation. It doesn't really matter whether you're applying job in office, or being clerk in some place, or whether you're employed as housekeeper, whether you're employed as a secretary, or manager, for that matter. Or whether you came as a guest of the place. It doesn't really matter. There's same kind of that feeling happens all the time, all sorts of paranoid situations. \"Would I be accepted or not when I have the first interview?\" Trying to present ourself very respectable. If necessary, cut our hair and shave our beard, [laughter] and so on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=5621.0,5677.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But somehow that cutting our hair and shaving our beard, and wearing suit and polished shoes, it doesn't answer the whole question. The natural situation presents something more deeper than that, is the actual communication. How much communication that we able to have to the situation where we are. That kind of actual communication with the situations are the one of the first step, first starting point. Of course that you could say that communication situation is there in all sorts of patterns. That you may not dis-- you may not agree with basic philosophy of the setup, or the end product of the setup, or the whole vibrations of the setup.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=5677.0,5740.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But somehow that, in spite of that that there's still room to communicate, still room to associate ourselves with such scene, since we are karmically already involved with that situation already. You see, there's a constant checking back involves with us. At the beginning when we are newcomers to the work, in that particular situation, there's bewilderment playing tremendous important part, not knowing who are you or why you are here. Often we ask question to ourselves \"why am I here at all?\" And that situation happens constantly, all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=5740.0,5782.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there's beyond bewilderment state of trying to make some move and that move becomes a move of paranoia. Eager to be accepted, eager to be included in the conversations of the in-group of the setup. Or, if you're manager of a firm or something, if you're newly accepted, then you want to have all the informations. And it depends on shareholders or people who-- how much they dis-- how much they trust you, accept you. How much dinner invitations you had, cocktail invitations you had. And that much your confident begin to built up. To be accepted as you are person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=5782.0,5827.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The whole thing is based on this kind of paranoia. A person may be, certain stage, involving himself or herself into such situation, may be able to relax little bit more. Make friends with the people, make friends with the clerk or the secretary, or the whole setup. Begin to smile little bit, exchange occasional jokes. [INAUDIBLE] Exchanging jokes with the staff.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You begin to smile a little bit.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Begin to smile a little bit, yeah, begin get more relaxed. [Laughter] Yes. What happens next?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Nowness. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not quite. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=5827.0,5906.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Next situation possibly will be is that we could become more daring, more brave, and begin to make little decisions, diplomatically -- if you are diplomatic person at all. Trying to present situation, begin to associate with the whole work situation involved with yourself, and begin to relate little bit more. Of course with the basic tendency of that you are faithful to the firm, and whatever you make decisions is all good intention -- very seriously, of course. That these decision-- these little choices that you make is appropriate, appreciative, to the boss. So, the-- certain stage that that stage we begin to get little bit more relaxed and less self-conscious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=5906.0,5971.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And more ingratiating, in the fundamental sense, if you are subtle enough. But if you are too ingratiating, then that is also something fishy from the point of view of employers, that you are up to something no good. Become bit daring, anyway -- some kind of move -- begin to stretch our arms, and begin to yawn front of people. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=5971.0,6021.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then, one wonders whether we actually are making any communication at all or not. Somehow in many cases, that people could extend this type of life situation throughout all their job, even if they spend twenty years in the firm. They do the same thing all the time, still, very efficiently, the paranoid person. [Laughter] And try to extend, and try to keep up the same image, exactly the same moment when you had the interview with the first person, and trying maintain that-- some kind of continuity. Which is a very sterile, plastic nature.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=6021.0,6070.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But on the other hand there will be more adventurous person, try different areas at the same time, of dropping the whole mask that you presented, and try to really get into the nitty-gritty of the job, and their aim and object, what they want to achieve, what they want to do. You get into it very efficiently. And you *finally* learn to identify yourself with a particular organization, particular thing. But still there's something wrong. Something's not quite right. Actual work haven't begun at all actually. It's just a stage prop. Somehow the actual work hasn't begun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=6070.0,6143.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 40]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's you think? What's the actual work? Any suggestions? Why haven't you actually been working there properly?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Does it have anything to do with accepting being alone? That is, giving up any idea of acceptance or fear of non-acceptance, and not being directed [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, something more than-- fundamental than that. It's something more human situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: You're holding back your individuality. You're keeping your creativity out of the whole situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's true. Mhmm. Any more?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: I'm aiming my whole -- whatever project I'm on -- towards gaining something for myself. Like maybe even writing something so that I could go to some other company, in case they cut me, instead of allowing myself to get absorbed into the-- what I'm doing there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Or if work is real-- the work is really satisfying the needs that you have.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Needs what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: The needs that you have--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: --whether the work's properly directed.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: We still identify with our position in the organization.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely yeah. But we haven't quite relaxed yet.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [INAUDIBLE] the creativity.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We haven't quite relaxed yet there, that situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: A lot of energy is going into the relationship with the other people, the image of yourself with other people, and dealing with the problems of the pe-- images of the other people. It's very difficult, I find, getting through to other people about work because they are-- they don't seem to be connected to the work because they are sitting around [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's always thing, that's always problem. But somehow in this situation it seem to be that's not your business. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Like didn't you have to know why you would want to do the work in the first place?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You've gone through that already.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Yeah. It's still work.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: It's still work.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it's work, sure enough, it's work.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Seems like there has to be the ability to stand back from it once in a while.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're getting closer, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: To see, you know, what's going on.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: And so you can get into it, but yet at the same time you can remove yourself from it and still be there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: When is not-- in an organization there seems to be a proc-- a checking process, because you're very concerned with approval.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's their game.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah, and if you want to play, you're sucked into it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't have to, particularly. You could still be a good person.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Could it be that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Some basic energy is lacking there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The joy of cooking. Could be there to-- [laughter] the relationship to the actual doing of the work, in a very minute-to-minute basis.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That sounds very much [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well you still see the work something that's outside of you, that you're doing to it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But there is a way of inviting to be part of your pattern as well, at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: The work becomes part of your game to look as if you're working. That's the only reason you end up actually doing the work, is to give the appearance that you're working.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you could become very cynical then.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Yeah, your whole motivation is really to look as if you're working and work is forming a part of that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't have any-- I mean you can't be boss if you're in that state, at all. You can't have anybody under you. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=6143.0,6417.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 41]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Any more things?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Seems like one is not relating spontaneously to the situation because there's a preconceived notion of what things should be--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: --and then working towards that all the time. There's actually no relating to what's there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see the whole relationship situation happens there, is that you are so much involved with the game you're playing. And at the same time, if you want to relate with somebody else who's-- who has the other department, you want to get some information out of it, you find that you can't get information out of it unless you made some human contacts with them. And by doing that it's very difficult. You might invite them for meal, or invite them to home. Have a walk together. Somehow it doesn't really work. It seem to be-- it's obvious to you as well as to him, or to her, something's lacking there. Some basic thing is lacking.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Do you mean for people?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The-- from the point of view of worker.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Beg pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: From the point of view of the worker.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=6417.0,6511.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 42]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: Don't you need-- in terms of the relationship you have with other people in your work situations, the triangular relationship with-- the boss is somebody at the top who's looking at both of you, and you speak to them. That boss is still [INAUDIBLE] their mind, your mind and their mind. They'll look, and it's as though perhaps they were listening in on the conversation, but you can't be yourselves with the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, yeah. That happens. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Also, you're not basically involved with the product that's being produced. I mean, there's such a-- the product seems always--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I know.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: --in a very large organization there's a distancing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I mean, you could be a bit more useful, helpful, to the products. And the actual-- you could be the heart of whole organization there. You could be the very much needed person there. Missing person. [Laughs; laughter] Somewhat seem to be quite obvious. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Well, when you're tied up in an organization, it's like you're really very con-- there's a natural tendency to be concerned about the eg-- about the position--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: --and his relation-- and it seems in using that more to maintain yourself, which means closing yourself to the situation rather than just opening yourself to the situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, exactly. What's the magic of it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What's the magic of it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Well, any type of closedness is a neurotic, paranoid aspect that has to be dealt with in meditation or something--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: --or somehow. I mean has to be dealt with [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, they wouldn't expect you to meditate in the middle of your desk. [Laughter; chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: You could go to the bathroom. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How often can you repeat that? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How often can you repeat that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Very often. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: And realizing that how irrelevant all that-- all this seriousness about your job, and the importance of it and so on, when-- [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Phew! [laughter] Well, maybe that's the answer. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: What if they just-- getting along with yourself? I mean--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=6511.0,6724.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK PART TWO]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, sense of humor seem to be the answer, which means getting along with yourself. And you begin to see the joy of working there. I mean, a sense of humor-- when we talk about a sense of humor, it seem to be very complicated one. Maybe something to do with the cultural hangup in the West. People usually don't laugh unless you're being rude and cynical to somebody. Don't laugh at just seeing the humor of it. And people could get very annoyed if they have been laughed at. Very paranoid, [laughter] not knowing they are providing tremendous source of delight. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=6724.0,6802.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But sense of humor, of course it doesn't mean just purely laughing at somebody or making fun of them. For them it doesn't mean that sense of humor is being used as comic relief onto the situation; that whole thing is too intense, therefore something to laugh at. But it's basic kind of delight. Of the whole play of the scene, there is delightful! It has its own qualities, characters; in fact that situation is very unique, very antique. If somebody deliberately provide that situation around it, nobody can do it. And people can only create spontaneous situation of sense of humor, of that such creation of situation like that, is very unique work of art.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=6802.0,6876.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it's really beautiful. That because you are enjoy working there, you see the unique situation of sense of humor there. Of course your work is going to be very creative one. And you begin to work very helpful way to the firm or the company, society, whatever it's may be -- school, organization, meditation center. [Laughs] That you see this ironical situation, very healthy ironical situation. Or the interplay of situations are very self-enlightening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=6876.0,6917.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's why that we need work. It seems that that's question comes down to, very seriously [laughs; laughter], is that such rich situation cannot happen anywhere, at all, unless we put ourselves in that discipline, going through the process of realizing such thing. That we are not going to-- able to expose to such situation at all. So therefore the work is, in this case, very necessary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=6917.0,6950.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In order to see delight in the situation, you have to involve in it. And you have to really feel it, you have to touch the whole texture of the whole thing. And then we will be able to actually relate ourselves with that particular work. And then, automatically of course, that natural efficiency of taking care of every little details becomes also part of it. Which requires a certain amount of not only sense of humor alone, but it requires a certain amount of openness of seeing the whole situation as it is. Unless person-- anybody who is taking part in that particular institution, has the aerial view of the whole thing, although that particular given job -- that person may be standing in the gate, just checking the visitors coming in through the gate -- such uninspired situations may be, but at the same time that person need panoramic situations, panoramic view of the whole thing. Or the whole feeling of the inspiration, whole environment of the institution, person have to feel that. Very necessary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=6950.0,7044.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then, if the person is able to relate from that far-- that much, that close, that far, then person will be able to see whatever necessary job that person was given to do, also becomes efficient one. That you are not trying to rush yourself or impress other people. But you see it's needed to be done in the situation. It could be as little as emptying ashtray or removing little dirt -- whatever it's may be -- but that simple, particular occupation becomes *everything*. As long as the person has that panoramic view, absence of paranoia that we been discussing early on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=7044.0,7101.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But then there's also problem of that ups and downs involve with that particular work. Some stage you feel that you could do everything, and some stage you-- that you feel that you are not capability of doing anything. Feel like leaving the place, feel like abandoning the whole thing, lock yourself in your room. Or have occasional outings in order to have relief from such intense situation. And dealing with such situation seem to be is that we don't have to be all the time faithful in terms of duty. But if person is able to see the whole situation as learning process, as a spontaneous learning process, then having occasional comic relief seem to be okay, nothing to feel guilty about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=7101.0,7172.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In other word, the whole open situation that you have is self-service, you're serving yourself. Nobody's imposing duties and all preconceptions on you. But whenever you feel that you should have open space, taking walk, occasional outings, is okay. But somehow sooner or later that your joy into the basic situation, that being in the such ironical situation, is source of learning. So if you have to-- if you have vacations too long, you begin to feel that you want to get back to the situation, which a lot of people regard as something terrible and wrong and bad. But I don't see anything wrong with that at all, that certain kind of commitment. Because once you're able to work with a sense of humor with the situation as they-- it is there, person will be able to relate with the human situations around it. Each person is unique by themselves.\r\n\r\n\r\nI don't mean to say each person is unique by themselves. That there's only one John Brown who was born in 1967, that's why he's unique. [Laughter] But person has character--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=7172.0,7264.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"characteristics, his way of handling his style is beautiful, inspiring in his own way. Doesn't have to be your style necessarily, or could be any style. And his whole involvement that scene, as you are involved with that scene, is very inspiring, very sort of beautiful sangha sort of feeling of community, of group feeling. That everybody begin to become a learning process of their own styles, their own habitual patterns, their own point of view, and everything begin to provide spices into the life situation. And the whole thing becomes-- somewhat begin to work. So that it seems that-- question comes down to our discussion today, seem to be is that-- seem that if we're not able to work with such situations that we are missing something, valuable training. So that in this first chapter, work seem to be necessary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=7264.0,7348.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93274/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seems getting rather old, yeah. [Laughter] We might close our meeting and we could have discussions tomorrow morning.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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Huh?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=3961.26,3962.47"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93275/annotation/914","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What happens\nto the music to come?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259#t=3962.47,3966.35"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169611/file/308259/transcript/93275/annotation/915","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Does that become--\ncan you hear that as 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