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A lonely journey, no one to comfort us. But interdependence as key to the path, how with our personal effort we relate to daily situations. These six types of bardo experience are present all the time within ourselves, a continual, ongoing process. Any type of intoxication in contrast with earthy world of pain and pleasure. Working to infiltrate karmic pattern of America’s material materialism and spiritual materialism by entering into culture, transmuting negative forces into positive, creative situations, a difficult and lonely journey. Inspiration and reinforcement from lineage teachers and fellow practitioners; but we do not receive congratulations for our achievements. Making friends with ourselves, having honest relationship with ourselves -- not easy, but a profound thing we can do."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Transcending Madness","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 06"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: TRANSCENDING MADNESS: Part One, Chapter 9: The Lonely Journey\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/transcending-madness-1570.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 6 (in contained book TRANSCENDING MADNESS)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-380.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Sep 16 2021 to Sep 14 2022 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Jessyca Goldstein Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Conclusion of seminar: application of bardo teachings to kitchen-sink level of everyday life. A lonely journey, no one to comfort us. But interdependence as key to the path, how with our personal effort we relate to daily situations. These six types of bardo experience are present all the time within ourselves, a continual, ongoing process. Any type of intoxication in contrast with earthy world of pain and pleasure. Working to infiltrate karmic pattern of America’s material materialism and spiritual materialism by entering into culture, transmuting negative forces into positive, creative situations, a difficult and lonely journey. Inspiration and reinforcement from lineage teachers and fellow practitioners; but we do not receive congratulations for our achievements. Making friends with ourselves, having honest relationship with ourselves -- not easy, but a profound thing we can do."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on The Six States of Bardo, held in Allenspark, Colorado, in July 1971. This will be the concluding lecture, July 24th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=0.0,28.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Since this particular session is going to be the last one, I think we should try to get into more perspective view of what been said and its application to everyday life. Of course one must go through different phases of so-called normality and so-called abnormal, tense, depressed, happy, and spiritual. All these phases that we go through, constantly. And these different phases seem to be the thing we been talking about in the past ten days. Unless that we are able to apply it to everyday life situation, there's no point to it. And often, before you begin to apply to anything, that certain reminders comes up, to show us whether we're going too fast or going too slow. But when I talk about something's going to show us, I'm not talking in terms of divine power or psychic phenomenon of any kind, but kitchen-sink level, conflicts of bedroom and conflicts of sink. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=28.0,178.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And such situation is always present, but on the other hand that we are left completely alone, without help, without a sympathizer, without a comforter. But then it is important to see that this kind of journey is a lonely journey -- alone, completely alone, by ourselves. Nobody's really going to fundamentally comfort us at all. For that matter, nobody's really going to show the path. A lot of big deals. People make big deal about transmission, sudden enlightenment. But even that is interdependent sudden enlightenment, interdependent transmission. Transmission of meeting of the two minds, of you come halfway and teacher comes halfway, you meet, so even that is very much depend on personal effort. So, any kind of savior notion is not going to function hundred percent at all. It had to be interdependent. Reason why that is so is because we are trying to relate with something. As soon as we decide to relate with anything, that had to be the judgment criteria of relativity -- how we going to relate, how open we are, how much ground are we allowing to relate to the space. That's always apparent, always comes that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=178.0,331.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the same way that when we relate more, then external situations come to us. We begin to learn, begin to receive instructions of the situation as it is. But in any case we can't recreate such situation at all. Situations come up, vanish, in its own accord, and we have to work along with that situation, by not grasping, by not fascinated by it. That doesn't mean to say that we have to be frigid, or rigid for that matter, failing to communicate with situations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=331.0,402.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that the whole thing is extremely simple, therefore it is too complicated to get into it by the using the language of mind of complications, logic of that and this, this and that, on the other hand, let's look at that way, and so on. That what we are suffering for is because we are so much involved with strategy, planning, rather than actually putting into practice as it is. And all these series of situations of six types of bardo experience are present all the time. There is a domestic problem of hungry ghost, in terms of comfort, in terms of luxury, in terms of hunger and thirst. And there is a competitive problem of jealous gods, \"asura\" level. There's spiritual problem of world of gods. There is a problem of communication and relating with anything which is \"world of hell\", \"naraka.\" And there is a problem of not opening, the world of animal level, animal realm. There is a problem of sucked into situations and grasping, world of human realm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=402.0,536.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All these realms that we talk about is not another land, not another situation *outside*, but it's something within us. We got domestic problems, we got emotional problems, we got spiritual problems, we got relationship problems. And all these are very apparent -- it is right there. And each of these problems have its exit or highlights, possibilities of completely flipping out or stepping out of the confusion. Each situation present its highlight of that and this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=536.0,590.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And once we go through further and more and more to the situation, as it is, then we wonder whether we are going too far or going too slow, but at the same time that we are on this particular vehicle without any reverse, even not lower gear, traveling in top-gear speed, no brakes either. It's ongoing process. It's like if you saw this movie called Space Odyssey, it's that kind of analogy, that you are going on and on and on. Once you begin to destroy the computer's brainwork that you're ongoing process, it's infinite journey to the space, and you go through, on and on and on. It's quite interesting analogy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=590.0,665.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That subject what we are talking in this seminar, it seems to be based on seeing the situation of sanity and insanity. And also not only working with ourselves but also working with other people who are in that situation. With the present situation of actually people are flipping out and pretense of flipping out of this particular situation made us possible to look into this discussion, talks. Strange enough the situation gave talks, situation gave discussion rather than deliberately guided talk in terms of myself or in terms of yourselves. It seems that talks just happen. It's a mutual effort from the audience and speaker. Whether we like to regard it as merit of individual person or not, it's mutual effort. It's an act of meeting of the two mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=665.0,794.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There was a question asked a few days ago about alcohol. [Laughs] That's very interesting subject. [Laughter; pause] It seems to be such question has different perspective views of course. It has the conventional attitude of non-smoker, non-drinker, good citizen, [laughter] and good Christian, or good Buddhist, or good Hindu, good Jew. But there's other aspect to that is if you don't associate it with such conventional situations, there's also human situation as well. The human situation to that also extend to that experience of grass, hashish, LSD, mescaline, and all the rest of it. It seems that whole question is based on sanity. Any possible way of providing temptation and temptation leading us to insanity, that seem to be the central question, theme. It's very much based on user.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=794.0,964.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But at the same time there is a big conflict, as we know, of dream world and actual world, so to speak actual world, which we've been talking last night's meeting a great deal, in terms of money issue. Dream world is associated with-- so much with hallucinations, pictures, and visions. But it's still intoxication. At the same time, the earthy world, physical world, is so much of sudden pain and sudden pleasure, making too much big deal about reality. But still there's this question of intoxication, of alcohol, or intoxication by yeast, which is closer to the earth, but at the same time as personal experience concerned it should be carefully worked. That such high on earth is going to lead on high on space, when high on earth is just going to remain high on earth, that's the criteria level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=964.0,1116.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the same thing could apply also that situation as a whole, that what we've been talking, what we've been doing in this seminar and in general, what I'm trying to do in this country, is that I think everybody here, in fact without exception, are in very dangerous game, everybody's in very dangerous game, all of us. That we are working on the karmic pattern of America. And we're trying to not only fight, alone, but we are trying to infiltrate into it. That's quite dangerous. There's always magical kind of power of materialism and spiritualism waging war, so to speak, all the time, because as its-- at the beginning such setup is being worked out that way. Spirituality is against worldliness, and worldliness is against spirituality. And we are facing tremendous danger, that every individual who take part in this discussion, meeting, seminar, is subject to attack from materialism because there's possibilities or we are working on infiltration to the materialistic world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=1116.0,1235.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And according to the history there a lot of people who attempted to become teachers or outstanding students have struck by such power, such energy. Either there is a direct life situation of physical attack, or psychological attack. It's been happening. So it's very dangerous, up to the extent that we should not involve. But if you insist in involving it, working with it, then you should be brave to work with it, to go along with infiltration. Which brings the subject of practice of meditation is the technique of infiltration or transmutation of negatives and hostile forces into a positive, creative situations. That's what we are at. In other word, I suppose what I'm trying to say is that such involvement of this type is not going to be easy one by any means. It is going to be extremely difficult one. It's-- for one thing it is a lonely journey, and for another thing it is a lonely journey with bridges, ladders, cliffs, waves, turbulent river that we have to cross, shaky bridges that we have to walk on, slippery steps that we have to trod on, amongst hailstorms, rains, snowstorms, powerful wind. And constant patience is needed as well, that we are going to cross inexhaustible distance of desert without water. All this is very frightening. And that situation you can't blame on anyone. You can't blame on the teacher who led you to it, or you can't blame on yourself that you have started on it. But blaming doesn't help but going on would the only way to do it, on the path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=1235.0,1454.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But at the same time there would be some energy and encouragements continues on the path as well -- it's not as black as that, by any means. That the first inspiration you decide to step or involve in such path, and our communication and our connection, like take example of local situations for instance. If you decide to, or if you came from, and if you're involved with such like work of Suzuki Roshi in California, and also, if you decide to involve with work what's happening here, with me, that in such situation contains tremendous power, reinforcement energy behind it. Not only that teachers themselves are particularly forceful teachers or powerful as individuals, because they're human being, but the whole energy comes behind that whole inspiration is from the lineage of 2,500 years' effort, energy, spiritual power, that's been coming down. And nobody just took advantage of power alone, but they received inspiration. And everybody worked, everybody practiced and achieved. And their inspiration has been handed down generation by generation. As scriptures would say, of like good gold put on the fire, and beaten, hammered, twisted, refined, and came out as pure gold, [INAUDIBLE] pure gold.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=1454.0,1636.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's like hot, bake bread. That knowledge of baking bread had been handed down by generations of generation, so still in present day baker who is belong to that particular lineage could provide hot, living tasteful bread straight from the oven and feed you. Such living quality of that inspiration continues, that which keeps us continue on the path, and going through the deserts, and going through the storms, bridges, and ladders, and so on. But that whole thing is really based on whether we're going to acknowledge it in terms of relationship ourselves, that nobody had to particularly belong to syndicate for any spiritual scene at the sake of belonging. But it is relationship of themselves to themselves is seem to be important. And the inspiration of belonging to themselves, working with themselves, relating with themselves, have different facets -- facets of six types of world: world of gods, world of hell, world of hungry ghost, human beings, animal, and so on. That making friends with ourselves is not very easy, it is very profound thing, but at the same time we could do it, we could make it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=1636.0,1745.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But nevertheless, making long story too short, that involvements with ourselves is honest relationship with ourselves. Looking into ourselves as what we are, and realizing that external comfort and situations will be temporary, that your comforters may not be there all the time. There's possibilities of us being alone. And therefore there's more reason to work and go along with practices that involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=1745.0,1829.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And usually what happens -- and also happened to me [laughs] on my way to the theater [laughter; laughs] -- is that I have established relationship with my guru, Jamgon Kongtrul Rinpoche, and have learned from him, spend some time with him. And also there was a certain time that I couldn't see him, I couldn't talk to him. And I was able to talk to him again and relate my experiences to him. And when I saw him last time that I felt I really made *real* communication, commitment, understanding of his teachings, was very pleased about it. I regarded that was beginning of our relationship. And I had to go back without him and had achieved tremendous insight, understanding what is, what he had to say. And I was dying to relate that to him, just tell him. That would be such beautiful. If that happened, it would be such beautiful moment to relate to him, at last I heard him, I understood him. I was awaiting for the occasion to do that, and it never took place, nothing happened. And he was captured by the communist Chinese, and he died in jail, and I never met him or saw him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=1829.0,1935.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And a similar situation happened like in terms of Gampopa with Milarepa. That Milarepa told Gampopa that he should practice certain meditations and he should relate with his experience, and he done it, he achieved it. But certain situation took over that he forgot a certain particular date that he should-- he supposed to come and see him, see Milarepa, the fifteenth of first month in the year, Tibetan calendar. That he was about fifteen days late. He suddenly remembered that-- on the twenty-fifth day that he realized that he must go see and see Milarepa, on the fifteenth of that day [ed: month]. He suddenly remembered it, he decided to set out, and he rushed. And on his halfway, some travelers came with the message that Milarepa was dead, and he send his piece of robe and message to Gampopa. And he was never able to relate that last experience to him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=1935.0,2009.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And situations like that takes place all the time. That is kind of encouragement or showing the situation that we would be able to work with ourselves and we would achieve it, but we will not get back the congratulatory situations of guru anymore. Again you're once again you're alone, you're a lonely student, or you're a lonely teacher, you're continuous become lonely-- alone again. So such independence to relate with scene, relate with situations, is not important. And it is related with *ourselves* is more important, and more necessary, more really living quality in that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=2009.0,2069.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm not saying these things because I want to raise your paranoia, but as historical case or evolutionary case this could-- that could take place, that nobody's going to congratulate us that *finally* you are Buddha. And in fact enthronement ceremony will never take place. If it took place that's dangerous, that was wrong time. It's not real anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=2069.0,2107.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So lonely journey is important. And particularly lot of us who took part of the seminar, and we experience our individual relationships are going to go back to their own places and going to practice by themselves, and work hard on it, practice it, try to relate with different experience of different realms of world, and work along with it. But at the same time, any teacher, any situation should not be situation of providing comfort to anybody. I suppose that's point what we're getting at. In other word, nobody's going to be initiated, as I said already, fully enlightened person decorated by the guru. And just about happen, you thought you're just about to get decoration, doesn't take place, never happens. So any external reliance doesn't work. It's the individual, personal intuition, working on oneself is the important.\r\n\r\n\r\nI suppose we should stop there. Any questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=2107.0,2226.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, the path that you're talking about, it's not very complex though. It's just very simple, it's just the way it is right now, without any trips. Isn't that it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It's very simple and immediate. Do you hear me?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. I think it is simple and immediate, yes. What we are talking about is not only what you should do when we finish our meeting here, but what we should be doing right now. Let alone other situations of that we get retired, and we buy house and land somewhere else, and *then* we meditate. But it happens right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=2226.0,2277.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: When you talk about colors, you open-- if you open-- you mentioned that when you open-- you open up and there's an irritation and colors and things come into you. It's like sometimes maybe [INAUDIBLE] and it turns into-- but I was wondering about the colors. Is the colors, the real physical colors of looking, of your own vision [INAUDIBLE] and you see like a green grass and you just to be able to see it as green. You know what I mean? [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: When did I say about the colors? I don't remember. When did we talk about colors?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Oh not here so much, but in talking about the six paramitas in the bodhisattva path of opening-- I'm trying to think... When a person-- the communicator would either the situation or with something-- or with someone, if you open up, if you open yourself and let the things come in sometimes it's an irritation--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --occurs. And in order to communicate, sometimes you have to transcend the irritation to be able to-- either to communicate and then also to see this-- the feel, the colors coming in. And I don't know if you meant-- by the colors if you mean by some kind of-- you know how when you say tantric is a colorful aspect?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Past shunyata or something like that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well are those colors, are they like-- I can understand how they'd be colorful world of emotion and life and feeling like energy is moving through, but does it ever-- do you ever mean real colors, like physical colors, like just the vision, the eyesight. Of how you just sometimes you don't see at all, you look and you don't see, but other times we look at stuff, whoosh, you can see every little thing there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well I mean that's saying the same thing. So much preoccupation is going on all the time, but when that wall is removed you-- for the first time you begin to appreciate it. Colors in terms of visual situations, which could become inspiration of certain symbolism, as well as psychological color and emotional colors. I mean that doesn't mean to say that you are going to see beehive mandalas, or your bright carpet is going to turn into herukas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=2277.0,2440.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Could you speak more clearly about infiltration in the context of other tactics?\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident;  laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, I think it involves a certain kind of acceptance at the beginning -- at the beginning, so that you could enter into that situation. And having entered into that situation, then you could work with heart of that situation. And I don't see any other tactics apart from infiltration. The other tactic had to be attack, external attack, invasion. That is like trying to throw out whole wall by your force. Possibility is you might get hurt. Whereas if you decide to work with it brick by brick, then you will never get hurt but you able to destroy the whole wall. It's working on the sensitive areas, which is not guarded by the mess work of materialistic force. It's like trying to infiltrate when the-- exact time of when a changing of guards taking place, then you should-- you have chance to go into it. It's trying to see the gap, the unguarded situations where you could infiltrate through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=2440.0,2540.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Isn't it not only a matter of demolition, as it were, but transformation of the situation that you find yourself in?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. Yes, this is so. And also the another analogy that has been used in the Chinese philosophy as well as Mao Zedong. And he says that if you're trying to invade a country you don't attack the capital to start with, but you try to walk into the countryside, make friends with the peasants, and occupy the rural areas to start with. Then finally capitals become just little islands, insignificant thing.[Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=2540.0,2585.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Isn't infiltration kind of in a way a dangerous idea? That we have a concept that we have something that's better than what is, and so we're going to change it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see that is depends on your understanding. Taking example of local situations, that in order to teach meditation, nonviolence to America, first time you have to become complete American, you have to become super-American. Then you'll be able to speak their language as well as what you're trying to say. So it's kind of certain giving is necessary as well as attacking, changing. Because change cannot take place unless you don't know the what's-- what you're going to change, but-- so therefore I don't think it's going to be dangerous, in that sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: No, I mean it just seems like it would be dangerous, like, to develop any kind of, like, crusader, or you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Of course, yeah, it will be dangerous that case, if you become evangelistic, you know, sort of carried away with sword in one hand and Bible in the other. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=2585.0,2668.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Isn't there a conflict in becoming American? On the one hand, as students of meditation, we lean towards a kind of pure life and you know maybe we'll want to get up early in the morning or we'll want to eat a simple diet or something like that. And on the other hand Americans watch TV, you know, and they go window shopping and do other sorts of things, see. And isn't there a danger in leading the pure life, and isn't there a danger in watching too much TV? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, that's the precisely point what I'm trying to raise. I'm glad you raised the question. Is that if you lead complete American middle-class life -- watch television, football, go to business -- then you begin to see the foolishness of *that*. As well as that if we live simple place and are trying to do the hippie trip, equally there is something lacking there as well. Is question is to see the both perspective views as it is, and then penetrate through it. But at the same time you don't get hurt by watching television, going to parties, and having polite conversation with people, don't get you overwhelmed because you already know what's happening. Whereas the general situation that they don't know what's happening, but they just go along.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=2668.0,2772.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, would you say that the practice of meditation would be like the bridge or the ladder to the joining together of the-- like the earthiness, the bottom, and the top of two parts? Sort of the grounded feeling, and the other--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: In other words, meditation practice itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well meditation practice is like getting into no-man's land. It's act of absolutely doing nothing, providing right perspective view to the outer meditation experience. And because of such understanding, the outer meditation experience also become broader and open because you have that view-- that vision. It's working with duality in some sense, or the two extremes. And both extremes being seen as it is, by going into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=2772.0,2845.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: While you're still around, you know with all these dire predictions, can maybe I buy you a beer?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: While you're still around, can I buy you a beer?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Go ahead. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=2845.0,2858.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Rinpoche, I really didn't understand what you said about alcohol, because you weren't really clear about getting high off of earth, getting high off of space. Could you be more clear about that, or at least give me a--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: And drugs.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see it's... there's actual deliberate differences between high on drugs and high on alcohol. High on drugs are very much dream world. That's why lot of people find it difficult to reconcile themselves when they come out of it. And equally you might get hangover in alcohol, of course, but it is high on earth. People cry, people fight, such earthy situation happens. Everything's based on sort of direct living situations. But what I'm trying to say was that any kind of extremes in this case, or any kind of attempt or replacement of any kind, doesn't seem to be right.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: The replacement meaning an escape?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: An escape, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: So there could be a danger in getting high on alcohol as well?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which might lead to high on space.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: That's what I didn't follow before.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: How would high on earth lead into getting high on space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well because all sorts of concept begin to develop. High on earth could lead to high on space at the same time. It's conceptualizing the situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: You mean conceptualizing the situation of being high?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. But that doesn't mean to say always being guarded and happy medium. I mean everybody say that \"Moderation in everything\" which is a well-known phrase, jargon. Somehow that doesn't work either. It should be experiential level of personal level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=2858.0,3027.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Rinpoche, [unknown gesture or incident;  laughter] how does the... kind of the idea of it being a lonely journey relate to the possibility of going into it with your family, making the journey as more than one?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean there will be hundreds of people making the same journey. Doesn't have to be purely your family. Like-- like hundreds of people here in this gathering are making similar journey. But at the same time that whole idea is that you can't actually relate in hundred percent your own experiences, everything to anybody, completely. I mean way of relating them had to be words or situations. And words and situations are very inadequate, very clumsy way of communicating. So ultimately that there is only one is being alone rather than-- I mean you might take your family and friends along in the same situations, but that doesn't mean to say you're sharing absolute every moment of situation with them. So in any case there is no alternative. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=3027.0,3110.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I'd like to make a suggestion about infiltration. [INAUDIBLE] but the-- as we're infiltrating, it seems to be worthwhile to keep in mind that there is-- like every-- you know as we become [INAUDIBLE] that there's a point where we can contact [INAUDIBLE] shed the snake skin and we're okay. It doesn't matter so much your form that you're playing, but it's being conscious of everyone else being conscious regardless of where they are, and making that contact and in[INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean... well that sounds like germ warfare. It's more like attack than infiltration.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: No, I don't think so. It's just reaching out and experiencing the common thing that we're going through.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well in order to do that you have to find the situations. That in itself becomes infiltration.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I think the subjective experience--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, I mean you have your--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: --of really becoming alive no matter who we are--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: -- it's a very common situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's the whole point, yeah. I mean you could have convictions and everything in yourselves. That's fine, yeah. [Laughs] But that conviction is also need skillful means to go along with that, and then automatically becomes infiltration, because you have to enter into some gate of some kind in order to really communicate with anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=3110.0,3208.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Do you have any comments on such activities as painting and writing, music, theater, those kinds of things?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean these are the expression of man's inspiration, including landing on moon. It's beautiful. It's result of that to be brave to experiment, brave to go along with it, with the truth of nature as it is, and accomplishing it. That's the \"dignity of man\" or whatever jargon we'd like to use. [Laughs] Beautiful. You see the point is once you begin to put these -- painting, music, scientific experiment, whatever it's may be -- once we begin to put that into practice, at the beginning it becomes a *deliberate* one. But at the end you transcend deliberateness of it, you become the-- your work become masterpiece. Because accomplished artist wouldn't think of how he's going-- how his audience will going to be impressed by it, but he just *does* it. Same thing with scientific experiment, that he wouldn't be hesitate to anything but he's continuously going into the more and more depth of reality, of things as they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=3208.0,3316.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: A moment ago, when we were talking about infiltrating America, did somebody say, \"Well I do this, but Americans watch television\" and so-- as though Americans were somebody else. And I find that-- I think it was-- you know I tend to think this way sometimes and think, \"Oh, Americans,\" as \"them.\" But I think it's-- if we have any ideas about doing something for America, we have to-- we-- the first thing we have to remember is the Americans aren't \"them.\" We are Americans whether we like it or not. It's... Americans is \"us\" in that way. And in a sense we don't have to infiltrate America, we're already in it. And that the first thing to do is realize that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's true, yeah. Well infiltrating is already taking place and actually taking effect.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Oh, far out. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good for you!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=3316.0,3405.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Is that infiltration-- it's in-- is it a sort of political, sociological level of-- in terms of human bodies having effect on each other? Or is it-- you spoke of becoming very American. Is-- can the infiltration take place within each individual, infiltrating his square side and his hippie side, becoming friends with that, and realizing the foolishness of both extremes? Or is it necessarily something that has an action upon other people?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean it works both ways. But usually the reason why we are here is because we want to learn something. We ask questions all the time at the beginning. And having realizing infiltration is already taking place already is kind of acknowledgment or confirmation that is happen already, rather than that we have to work on the strat-- tactic of any kind. Infiltration works inward as well as outward. I mean that's also same as analogy of how to stop the war. War is aggression, act of aggression. The only way to stop the war is not to make a nuisance of ourselves to ourselves. Deal with the closest aggression that there is -- that's the first starting point of trying to stopping the war.\r\n\r\n\r\nI know that most idealistic peace-marchers or nonviolence groups and people like that who involved with actual problems wouldn't agree with that -- that seem to be too timid and coward. And because of that they begin to create another kind of war. In fact actually people *do* believe that if they start any kind of aggression in order to stop aggression, that's the-- they regard that as absolute, justifiable aggression. But as far as aggression as it is, there's no justifiable aggression at all. You're adding to the complications, confusions, of the country or individuals.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=3405.0,3561.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: In a previous talk, Rinpoche, you mentioned the concept of sane violence, of insane violence and sane violence. Would that sane violence relate at all to the so-called aggressiveness of the peace-marchers?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Insane?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Sane violence. What is the difference between sane violence and what the peace-marchers are doing, aggression?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seem to be that what they are doing is insane violent at the same time of confusion of the violence. That... not able to learn the judo game, but ordinary fistfight game, not having enough understanding of what the nature of the violence is. I mean obvious way of defeating somebody is kick back. But then there is continual chain reaction set up, which is I would say insane, because whole thing is based on defeat and victory constantly. The actual sane violent is transcending defeat and victory at the same time. And then it's like the same analogy of Buddha, that each spearhead arrow that thrown at him becomes a flower rain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=3561.0,3657.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: I think that at least for me the peace marches were for me one of the first steps I made in looking at my society. You know like sort of walking [INAUDIBLE WORDS] to it, and I think that has a lot to do with being here now. Having taken those steps, and not to stop the war but just in my own development and ability to step outside. What do you think for that purpose of it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it serves a purpose -- of course anything you do will serve purpose. I mean if you commit suicide that will make someone to think, stop and think, but that doesn't necessarily mean to say that that's the way, the only way. That thing what we are talking is actually that we don't want to hurt others. Once you begin to do something, there going to be a natural chain reaction, and your love or hate is going to reach to somebody else and they going to be subject to that as well at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Do you think they actually hurt others then? The marchers?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well built up all sorts of... what you call... yes, animosity.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: They seem to be very self-righteous, and that seems to get a lot of people--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's the whole point where they develop philosophy of their own at the beginning, which may be good, something like based on Mahatma Gandhi's idea of nonviolence and so on. But then they have to hold on to it. And then you have regular answers to every questions, prefabricated, and you don't think to yourself at all. You just churn them out because it is already worked, it is already planned. That's the problem about any kind of dogma, is prefabricated quality becomes then without any life, any personality, individuals.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Why are you here rather--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=3657.0,3812.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: In a discussion group the other day, we were discussing what you've been saying about the bardos. And we were trying to relate it to our experiences, trying to [INAUDIBLE] studied and talking about the different bardos. And a fellow raised an objection to the whole discussion [INAUDIBLE]. And I thought that the objection had two sides. On the one hand, he was basically saying that people were playing, that they were talking about what they didn't know about, and that no one had had the experiences they were discussing. And on the other hand, he seemed to be saying that we were indulging in a kind of frivolous intellectuality. And the implication is that, was also there, that people were in a way becoming Buddhist, you know they were sort of playing at Buddhist philosophy, which [INAUDIBLE] Buddhist. And that the whole thing is sort of frivolous in a way because no one really knew what they were talking about. Now I objected. But I'd like to hear your response to that kind of objection, that kind of a comment .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Well, [laughter] I feel like, you know if anyone's working with ideas and trying to understand them, then automatically if there's any kind of struggle to understand, that there's automatically an effort to relate it to your experience. I also was thinking of Ramana Maharshi's remark that the only problem that people have, he says, \"All you have to do is stop telling yourself that you don't know.\" And that so many people because they're so-- they're saying over and over again, \"I don't know, I don't know,\" that [INAUDIBLE] when people begin to talk about it they don't know about it, I mean what they're saying [INAUDIBLE]. And then too I was thinking about your remark about logos with Milarepa, as speech, because Milarepa he achieved logos, that his speech was a constant expression of reality. Not only an expression, but it *was* the reality and that there was no distinction. And that [INAUDIBLE] people are constantly doing this. They simply-- that confusion blurs it, you know so that everyone is working toward logos in a way.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, it seems that, I think that particular criticism is very positive criticism, because without such situations person wouldn't have such criticism. And if person actually look it back and see it the situation is created, therefore he begin to see new dimension of situations. 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And the-- on the reverse situation such things also taking place. That when you try to help somebody, you're leaning down, and somebody could easily kick both of you, equally. But that doesn't mean to say that you shouldn't help others, just purely you want to survive. It should be working with the situations. But there is this danger of something else coming and knocking both of you down. It's the notion of blind man leading blind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=4276.0,4358.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Rinpoche, you use the words \"hope\" and \"fear\" in the same way as meaning that they need to be transcended, that hope is as much of an obstruction as fear. 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So in fact, in that sense ego is the inspiration -- without that there wouldn't be realization at all from our point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=4499.0,4541.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED STEVE: I was thinking about what you said about your relationship with your teacher, and Gampopa and Milarepa, and the fact that if you have an experience like that, there's no gratification. And it seems like I'm the one who wants to get enlightened, I mean me, Steve, wants to get enlightened. But it also seems like that Steve is never going to get enlightened, [laughter] because, I mean, he won't be there when Steve gets enlightened. [laughter] So there's really no gratification in getting enlightened. So why do I want to get enlightened so bad? [Laughter] Seems just like it's my ego that wants [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see that's the whole point, that attain-- to attain enlightenment doesn't mean to sa-- doesn't mean that gratification, does it?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED STEVE: But what-- [laughter] what experience though makes us want to get enlightened? I mean it seems like everything I do is for gratification. And getting-- I want to get enlightened no less-- for no less reason. But there must be another reason.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. There is pain, pleasure, and you want to have a proper relationship with them. So in other word the present being is also enlightened being as well. Present state, as well as being on the path. So why look for future?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED STEVE: I don't know, that's why I'm asking you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm saying the same thing. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED STEVE: Well like I identify enlightenment with pleasure, I suppose, because I'm either looking for pleasure or looking for enlightenment.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there-- I think that's the problem, in fact. Enlightenment has nothing to do with pleasure, or pain for that matter. It just is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=4541.0,4678.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: Rinpoche, like for really--\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: If we're really aware of what we are--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: If we're really aware of what we are and accept it that that's a form of enlightenment, or that is if we can ever really get to, really honestly, accept what we are.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Enlightenment is a kind of, as you said, honest relationship with ourselves. That's why it is connected with the truth, *being* true rather than truth*ful*, in terms of truth as something external and you are relating to it. Just being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=4678.0,4728.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 27]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: It seems, you know, the ego is really clever, you know. That he'd really be completely aware of what was-- because first we tell him we'll make friends with you, come along, help out, and at the last minute, you know throw him overboard. [Laughter] And he was really smart about it. He says, \"Why should I be friends with you, you know? You're trying to suck me into something. What's in it for me somehow? What's the payoff?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why not?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: [INAUDIBLE WORDS], and just go along for the hell of it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=4728.0,4785.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72364/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think we'd better close our-- or open our seminar again. I would like to thank everybody being so beautifully communicative. And I think we all of us benefited from all your contributions of negative or positive. And hope same continuity will take place if we're here together. Meanwhile if the sky doesn't fall on our head, you will survive. Thank you *very* much. [Applause]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=4785.0,4838.68731"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72357","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19710724VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72357/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: This will be\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=5.96,9.42"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72357/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar on\nThe Six States of Bardo,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=9.42,11.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72357/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"held in Allenspark,\nColorado, in July 1971.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=11.39,16.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72357/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This will be the concluding\nlecture, July 24th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=16.94,22.73"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72357/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Since this\nparticular session\nis going to be the last one,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=28.33,35.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72357/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think we should try to get\ninto more perspective view","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=37.92,44.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72357/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of what been said\nand its application\nto everyday life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=44.36,56.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72357/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Of course one must go\nthrough different phases","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=56.94,62.51"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72357/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of so-called normality\nand so-called 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constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=86.49,91.79"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72357/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And these different phases\nseem to be the thing","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=93.84,96.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72357/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we been talking about\nin the past ten days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=96.84,103.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72357/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Unless that we are able\nto apply it\nto everyday life situation,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=103.94,111.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72357/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there's no point to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=111.25,117.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72357/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And often, before you begin\nto apply to anything,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=121.53,128.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72357/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that certain reminders\ncomes up,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=128.12,132.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72357/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to show us whether we're going\ntoo fast or going too slow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=132.95,140.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72357/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But when I talk about\nsomething's going to show 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kind,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022#t=152.39,155.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138134/file/256022/transcript/72357/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but kitchen-sink level,\nconflicts of bedroom and\nconflicts of sink. 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