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Training required is commitment to oneself and one's development, and communicating teachings and message of sanity to outside world. Marpa had four types of students, but only two \"schools\" survived; Milarepa as carrying on \"practicing lineage.\" Earthiness of Marpa's approach; involvement in dharma then and now not about rejecting the world, but transcending ego's involvement in it. Discusses Marpa's livelihood and family,  how we can take similar approach, relating with jobs and meditation practice. That Marpa was master of tantric orders, but also related with the ordinary life. In Q\u0026amp;A, Buddhist approach to eating meat; why God can't exist from Buddhist logic perspective."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Jun 01 2020 to Jan 31 2022\nTranscribing: Ella Milligan\nChecking: Jessyca Goldstein\nFinal Proof: Anne Seidlitz\nOther Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1975"]}}],"summary":{"en":["A talk that links aspects of Marpa's life to present-day situation of students being involved in practicing and teaching the dharma. Training required is commitment to oneself and one's development, and communicating teachings and message of sanity to outside world. Marpa had four types of students, but only two \"schools\" survived; Milarepa as carrying on \"practicing lineage.\" Earthiness of Marpa's approach; involvement in dharma then and now not about rejecting the world, but transcending ego's involvement in it. Discusses Marpa's livelihood and family,  how we can take similar approach, relating with jobs and meditation practice. That Marpa was master of tantric orders, but also related with the ordinary life. In Q\u0026amp;A, Buddhist approach to eating meat; why God can't exist from Buddhist logic perspective."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/267/360/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1741833494","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1741833471_19750201VCTR1-Audio-Prod-ARCHRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":3675.53306,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/267/360/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1741833494","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/267/360/original/1741833471_19750201VCTR1-Audio-Prod-ARCHRmstr-Access.mp3?1741833473","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3675.53306,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19750201VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19750201VCTR1 - Public Seminar - KensingtonCA - Life and Teachings of Marpa - Talk 2]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. Seminar entitled Life and Teachings of Marpa, held at Williams College in Kensington, California. This is talk number two, February 1st, 1975. This is an ARP digital remaster made June 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=0.0,20.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose we are discussing the continuity from student who are prepared at the beginning, as trained in the preliminaries of basic meditation, according to the Buddhism. And it seems that such basic training is necessary, and absolutely important. That the thing we discussed yesterday about \"the pre-idiot level\", is very powerful and necessary. And with that, we tend to develop further level, which is actually idiot level, a sense of earthiness, a sense of richness that takes place. And a sense of richness and a sense of earthiness is largely based on the idea of having some sense of celebration, joy, richness. Which manifest in the life of Marpa, particularly; that as he was a student and teacher at once, simultaneously.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=20.0,138.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And a similar situation applies to us here. That a lot of our friends here, particularly who had been practicing a lot, with the inspirations been created around it, are equally students, as well as teachers at the same time. That the students begin to act as a spokesman to the teachings. At the same time that they develop their process by further training, at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=138.0,179.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the question of further training has a lot of facets, a lot of perspectives. And it has the perspectives of being able to commit themselves into their own development, as well as they have perspectives to able to branch out to the others, world at large; the sense of propagating the teachings, of basic sanity, whatever may be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=179.0,229.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Marpa's particular training is, he's not so much of a scholar who had actually able to study with the Indian master and he brought back gem of wisdom to Tibet. But he had become, somehow or other, the spokesman to the lineage of the practicing tradition of the Kagyu institute. He had trained four types of students, when he got back from Naropa to Tibet. That he had trained four types of categories: of scholarship is one, discussing the details of the tantric disciplines and the basic Buddhism; and the actual straightforward practice; and coordinated both; at the same time, also inspiring fourth level of discipline, which is inspiring heroism, heroic aspect of that particular discipline. So there are four types of students exist in Marpa's teaching, Marpa's lineage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=229.0,328.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what we have at this point is the-- only the practicing lineage, which is Milarepa carried out completely. And the intellectual teachings, of studying the vajrayana teachings, have existed. So we have basic two lineage situations happening. And rest of the other two have discontinued, or amalgamated into the other two.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=328.0,378.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the cases of Marpa's approach to dharma, in the teaching, is very earthy one. His existence is related with expressions of dharma, of the practicing lineage. That he is traditionally known as the farmer, but in American language maybe closest to it is \"scholar-ranchowner\", who had access to teachings and understanding of it. At the same time he runs his business, running his establishment, and lowland and highland. In the lowland the cultivation of barley crop, wheat crop, plowing, sowing seed, harvesting and so forth. In the highlands nurturing cattle -- a female yak which is called \"dri\", which is produce milk, butter, cheese, and other animal products. And butter and cheese are used as currency at the time, and still did until before the Communist takeover. That such method has been used in the medieval world of Tibet in the twentieth century.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=378.0,489.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That very interesting point there is that running a farm, running organization, and also at the same time handling freaked-out students, is quite a handful job. But seemingly Marpa had found a way to relax, at the same time. And the way that he could relax himself, seemingly, is that being a family man, that he could treat everybody as his own kid, his own child -- all the student, as well as his own personal child. That supposedly Marpa had seven child-- seven children. That he educate them, taught them, and they apparently became pretty good students of his. He is both father as well as schoolmaster of the local situations. That quite possibly he accepted young kids from the vicinity to join his school, of his big family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=489.0,565.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And his wife Dagmema, [laughs] is a very interesting woman. And she is very impulsive, and unnecessarily kind. And extraordinarily hospitable, and very resourceful. And as soon as Marpa gives order to her to prepare for feast, then she produces outright, quick, and there's a gigantic feast is prepared. And she minds her husband's business, of that he should be putting her effort and energy into the students that Marpa accepts. And they should be trained and they should be looked at-- looked after properly, and they should be treated as like one of the kids. And she had run into a lot of troubles because of that. Like if you read the story of Milarepa, in the early life that exist in Evans-Wentz edition, that Dagmema trying to push Mila into receiving abhishekas prematurely, and giving him presents to give, fees to pay, and cleaning him up and well dressed, and so forth. That everything turn out to be failure. But however she is enormous good intention. It's somewhat in the level of vicar's wife, but at the same time much *more* than vicar's wife. That who doesn't just dwell on the authorities, and the dogmatic situations of the current church. Because at that time there's no such thing as particular church setup. It is just basically a family business to preach vajrayana, and a family business to run the farm, so this particular family has to-- happens to do those things at once.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=565.0,702.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The notion of earthiness is very important this point; that how it is possible a student can be householder and still relate with their life. And I think that it is very possible. Altogether, relating with the teachings does not necessarily mean that you should run out into the mountains, the jungles, and the deserts, and become a full-fledged practitioner. And somehow that meaning of \"full-fledged practitioner\" means being in the world; at the same time beyond the world activities could continue. Beyond the world doesn't necessarily mean alien to the world or rejecting the world, but transcending perspectives of worldly commitment, which is related with ego. That when we talk about worldliness, we talk about the ego. That ego, working with ego, as well as going beyond ego, is seem to be the basic point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=702.0,783.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The household life that Marpa actually led is a very pragmatic one: that had to be extremely careful in relating with his employees. And he had to relate with the financial situations, and also had to relate with the seasoning, of various seasons, that the farming situation maybe would be different from each year. So a lot of experience being Tibetan farmer, and being good farmer and a successful business person at the same time. And also that he has further hassles, that dealing with the dairy products, that dairy farm that exist in the highlands.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=783.0,843.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The question is being that it is possible that we could do the same thing. And basically that we have problems exist here, is relating with a nine to five job, relating with your own nyinthuns and sitting practices, daily sitting situations. Which is, compared with Marpa's hassles, it is very much less. Unless anybody who's here are multimillionaire, who's dealing with the five hundred corporations at once. And even that's the case, still you can do it. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=843.0,890.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the question is there's one key point, and one word of wisdom, so to speak, is that sense of being solid ground, being in the solid ground, that you have that solid ground exist already, and you are working with that particular basis. That you have no further way to chicken out [of] the area that you have, and appreciating your particular trade. That trade that Marpa had raising cattle and raising crops. And it's appreciating your trade; at the same time being a practitioner. Which are no longer contradictory, particularly: which are saying the same thing. Basically they are same. They are doing the same thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=890.0,969.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And being a householder is in fact enormous opportunity to relate with samsaric world, as well as enlightened world equally. And it is enormous opportunity, and the student should be raised from that angle, rather than they should be given student who have a chance to go beyond it, and a chance to chicken out. And first student chicken out from dealing with the money, dealing with the life, a student suddenly jumps into monastery, where everything's prepared of you, and regarding that anything goes in the world is the world of the bad guys, bad girls, who are involved with the hustles and bustles of city life, which is a world of sin. And those who manage to leave from it begin to feel that enormous up-manship; that they are actually doing the true spirituality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=969.0,1040.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But at the same time, they have to eat and they have to sleep; they need roof. And they are milking from the samsaric world, in order to be good enlightened people. Which is absolutely hypocrisy, of that you blame on your producer of your food. Somebody had to work on the farm, somebody had to work on the business, and when those people begin to give you out of their kindness, and you begin to accept as kindness, \"Now you have given me, you have developed your generosity, you've been extremely good, but I still think the world you're in is terrible. You are embedding yourself in hell realm, confused samsaric world.\" Which is terribly unnecessary thing to do, to create that kind of schism, between samsara and nirvana. In the higher teachings of tantric literature, that samsara and nirvana supposed to be indivisible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=1040.0,1106.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it seem that that kind of approach goes against basic principle, as well as practical principles at the same time. Which is disgusting in some sense; it's terrible. That if we hold that kind of view: that the samsaric, confused world gives us food, and we look down upon that because they give us food, but at the same time grateful. \"They are trying to associate with us, and we eat their food, we live on their domain, their hospitality. At the same time you people are terrible people.\" And that is some kind of schizophreniac in the cosmic level. Which is a bad start to begin with, and whatever goes behind that, beyond that is, goodness knows, is going to be further terrific.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=1106.0,1171.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think Marpa's approach is completely opposite: he had looked at in a very practical level, he had regarded himself as a teacher, master of the four tantric orders, of four tantra. And he had achieved those states of being, at the same time that he had felt that he could relate with all kinds of spiritual world at the same time. Which is a very interesting point, and absolutely applicable to us this point. As our world of dealing with the money and dealing with the spirituality, which occur simultaneously.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you have any questions, you're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=1171.0,1228.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, in working with young children, especially those that come from conventional religions, how can you best explain heaven and hell and monsters and angels and all of those kinds of things?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The best way to relate with them seem to be relate with the level of Cookie Monster. [Laughter] It's a celebration of eating lots of cookies, and at the same time it's somehow there's this concept of monster exist behind it. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nI happen to get into Sesame Street myself [laughter], and watching together with my kids. It's quite insightful in a sense; it's real world, at the same time it is transparent world. And I think there's a sense of discrimination, sense of good and bad, whatever children might have to know. But still it's not all that solid and dogmatic particularly.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt would be too complicated to go beyond that, and discussing about the nature of reality, existence of utterly good world, and utterly terrible world. Which is very involved -- unnecessary in some sense. That as children grow up, they begin to learn more about parents' or teachers' hypocrisy in any case. So there's no point pushing your trip hard, on the spot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=1228.0,1358.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, I found that in my sitting practice, like I'll sit say for an hour or two, and then I'll stop, and like maybe the household has been going on all around me during this time I’ve been sitting. And then I'll come down and join them, and it's sort of like a schizophrenic situation, from the sitting to the involved with the people. And sometimes, like, I can't quite handle it. And I was wondering if you could say a few words about this kind of going from the sitting to the post-sitting state.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, what you expecting? Do you expect something?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I don't expect anything. But sometimes I can't even relate with people at all after sitting\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think problem is that if you're looking for some kind of easy way out, or comfortable way, that you can proclaim your sitting practice as being very important to you, which the other people have difficulty to understand. And at the same time, that trying to relate very hard, extraordinarily hard, had become problematic. That if you're more concerned with relating, that much obstacles had been created at the same time. And I think that is the problem. That your integrity is unnecessary, in the level of *beyond* necessary. And also being serious, not having enough humor with it. That there is a sense of dance, opposed to a sense of doctrinal statement of very powerful, meaningful commitment, that what you're doing is absolutely powerful one. That somebody should sort of get into it. So I think it needs a lot of humor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=1358.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, in relating with the practice -- say, the things you talked about last night, some of the like austerity and the nakedness, or the sense of joy -- could you say something about the sense of constantly keeping track of what's going on, of that sense of self-consciousness, in relation to this?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: A sense of constantly keeping track of what's going on; that, \"I feel this way\" or \"Now this is happening. Now there's this austerity happening.\" This kind of self-conscious feeling in one's interactions. Do you understand?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don't think you have to get into that particularly. And there is no need for particular registering what's happening as such. But registering takes place afterwards, sort of in the form of confirmation. If the present situation makes enough impact on you, that seems to be the basic point. So the point is just to acknowledge what's happening at the time, rather than confirming anything, particularly that had to be-- one has to be right on the dot, at the given situation, rather than... you want to say something more?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: If that-- even if that feeling of being right on the spot involves the self-consciousness of, \"Indeed, here I am right on the spot.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that seem to be okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Okay. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why not? You are talking now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=1500.0,1635.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: When you were talking about taking food from patrons, while putting down their profession of farming, I would like to know why it's all right for Buddhists to eat meat but not to kill it. It seems hypocritical in a way.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That particular question is never resolved in the Buddhist world, to begin with. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I just thought if you had any opinions, I would like to hear them.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the closest thing that come up with the mahayanist idea, that if you are rejecting idea of killing altogether, that you're rejecting in large portion of world, who involved in killing, in particular slaughtering for food. That you decide to not associate with such terrible people, which provide lot of barrier. And there is a particular saying in the mahayana sutra, which is interesting point, it says that, \"Meat should be eaten by the compassionate one, and liquor should be drunk by who are experienced.\" And that seem to be their point, in the sense that you are making commitment, you don't want to lead in too clean life, have nothing to do with the killing and nothing to do with the problems of that nature; that you've gone beyond that. So in other word one doesn't wash one's hands off that you're willing to get into the karmic debts, of other people's involvement in killing. And each time that when you're eating meat, that you have some sense of sympathy, and sense of that you're sharing that heavy burden already at the same time. That is the best that the Buddhists came up with the logic or ideas. [Laughter] And as far as Tibet is concerned it's geographically problematic because that we don't have any vegetables cultivate--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well you'd have to live on gravel if you didn't eat meat.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: You'd probably have to live on gravel in you didn't eat meat there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Have to live on what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Gravel, rocks, snow.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Something like that-- [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --so, that's the problem. And also the southern Buddhists, like Sri Lanka and in Thailand and Burma, that people never had a relationship with a cow, and they never known milk, so their only resource for meat is fishing. And that has been the situation. And one of the problems that-- one of the questions that the Tibetans put out, is that eat meat that which need less killing. Which is to say that survive on the elephant for a while, and don't kill too many little lives, take too many lives. And that has been also consideration [laughing] but whole thing seem to be very shaky there. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But then too, perhaps -- well I've heard it argued and I have also on occasion argued that if you're going to eat meat you *ought* to kill it once in a while so that you know what you're doing, and aren't asking someone else to take on the karma.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think that's been also raised at the same time. But then, at the same time that the problem is that you become a heroic hunter, and that breed further things. And that has become the problem. And in fact that such attitude is adopted by Gary Snyder, who said that, \"Why don't you hunt, and you-- we like killing, because we doing what we want, and we are relating with reality that way. And we are not laying heavy burdens on other people.\" But the social setup in Tibet particularly, is people who are butchers have their own industry already involved, and one doesn't have to take over there. And also personal killing of animal is a personal rejections of them. That, \"I want to kill *you* for *me*.\" Rather than if it's indirect by innuendo, that at least that's not-- at least personal rejection. And that has been the one of the point. Which is still weak, I'm afraid but [laughter], it's the best argument I can give.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident;  laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=1635.0,1918.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What should one best do if one feels like he's lost his heart?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: He feels really-- what do you think one should best do if one feels he's really lost his heart? He feels just no compassion or just feels like his heart is dead.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That sounds fantastic ground to build a confession-- compassion. That you actually felt your heart, and you felt actually lost of it, which is very, very, very positive, extraordinarily positive. And it seem to be very real. And take on from there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Take on from there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: It seems hard to live without some sense of connection through the heart.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you know better, if you know more about that, you know more about the opposite as well. The problem of lost of heart in the traditional terms, is not able to actually feel anything, that you turn into jellyfish. But this case there are a lot of feelings about the whole thing, so that's-- you can work on that feeling. Whether you have a heart of whether you don't have a heart, is beyond consideration.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=1918.0,2008.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Any questions on Marpa? [Laughter] David?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED DAVID: The Buddha and Milarepa...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED DAVID: The Buddha and Milarepa urged their disciples to drop out of the world, but yet they took up the begging bowl after they did. And that seems hypocritical, from what you said about Marpa's teaching. It's a totally different viewpoint.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. Well I wouldn't say totally different, but it's another way of looking at the whole thing. That particularly tantric situations, that the original inspiration of a tantric practitioner is the yogis. Are the yogis supposed to run the world? And monks and nuns of the hinayana discipline supposed to be supported by the yogis. And the nuns and the monks are not supposed to involve in the organization and the church hierarchy *at all*. And that's why the yogis' system is begin to develop. That yogis are spiritual person who knows how to crop-- how to grow crops, and how to handle whole thing. How to milk cow and so forth. That the-- it was a mistake that developed later on, when the monasteries become landlords, and the powerful organizational bodies. And that is the part of the failure of monasticism in the Buddhism actually.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd I think the begging is not just you beg anybody, but you beg the yogis who run the farm. And that has been the basic idea. And I mean we have better experience with the Catholic traditions and things like that. That the hierarchy of church who are basically monks, who ask for donations, and pass your donation dish, at each time a ceremony is ended. And that seem to be sort of a one-sided point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd I think that's very important in the social setup, is that yogis supposed to know how to run the business world, because they are dealing with energy that exist. Tantric practitioners should have enough sense of business, as well as a sense of economy and sense of whole thing. And the monks and nuns are supported by that. That that is to say the \"weak people\", who become monks and nuns, who would be supported by the yogis who had already business establishment. So that the monks and nuns being helped how to renounce the world. Eventually they could return to the world back again, become yogis.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED DAVID: So you don't think Milarepa's-- you don't think the yogic renunciate is practical [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's more monastic, rather than yogic particular renunciation. And Milarepa's approach has been extremely ambivalent from that point of view. That he-- one hand he praised how someone can farm, someone can ride a horse, he had all the allegories: \"If you farm your mind, you farm with this and that; you farm, you tame the soil of ego.\" And there's a long rap, long song about the whole thing. [Laughter] And \"If you ride a horse, and you ride the horse of patience, exertion, and you settled with the discipline,\" and so forth. That there's whole discipline, all descriptions about the whole thing. But somehow he takes pride in being a poor person. And if you look at closely, may be something to do with that he feel that he can't achieve as household life, as Marpa's situation. Which is difficult for him to do at the beginning, because everybody is rejecting him and regarding as black sheep of the family, already. That he had a difficulty in doing that in *any* case, and one can't imagine he would be respectable enough in society at least -- unless he become yogi, or monk, from that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=2008.0,2298.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: What happened to Marpa's children?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: His principal son got killed in a horse ride; probably you know about that. And the others just become great yogis, which we have no idea of exactly what happened to them, how they died, but they have become his students; the great practitioners. And in fact supposedly all fantastic scholars. There is one of the-- or seven of the commentaries actually -- not one -- supposed to be available on the Hevajra Tantra. And the Kagyupas trying to find out the manuscript, which is impossible to discover, and supposedly they been destroyed by the Fifth Dalai Lama's invasion of the Gelukpa; oppressive religious war, where the lot of the libraries been burned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=2298.0,2366.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: You were talking about being a student and teacher. And it seems to me that being a student, one can afford to make mistakes; but being a teacher it seems to invoke a much more serious attitude, that one couldn't really afford to make mistakes. 5\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think idea is being that you can learn by teaching, by making mistakes, each time. And also that you're not going beyond your limitations, so there is student, teacher, would have sense of perspective already, that you don't go beyond your limitation, beyond your understanding.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Beyond your understanding.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Understanding, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=2366.0,2413.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I had occasion to read about your last seminar on Marpa, I read the transcript of it. And listening to you today, I get one view of being able to be a student and have a family and relate to the world. However-- I'm new at this by the way, so I'm not-- I'm quite confused. And then I read The Hundred-- some of the things in The Hundred Thousand Songs of Milarepa, and there's one song in particular where he really sort of attacks and blasts families and friends, [laughing] and wives and children. And I'm just quite confused by the contradiction in Marpa's approach and your approach, and that one.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I don't think Milarepa is attacking his own root guru. Do you see what I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, Milarepa is not attacking Marpa. There's an example that Marpa has family and led family life, farmer's life. That I think the Milarepa's intention is that, unable to lead healthy life, and unable to relate with the dharmic aspect of leading family life. It's-- I think lot of things that his songs are related with dealings with the peasants, who have no understanding of subtleties of vajrayana. That he's talking with those things. Now if you read his songs -- I think it's in The Hundred Thousand -- his meeting with the Padampa Sangye, and the meeting with the Bodhidharma from Nepal. And those songs are entirely different. That he's talking eye-level situation with somebody. Whereas, I mean if somebody raise a kid, and get into business, it's a very hopeless situation: you are fucked up, it's samsaric world. You know, I mean it's a terrible thing to do. You are burying yourself more and more into samsaric world. If you have no idea how to relate to whole thing enlightened point of view. At least he wants you to get into the teachings. That's what Milarepa keep on saying. Like his \"Song to the Grandmother\", that -- how does it go? The repetition goes that -- anybody know? \"Maybe you find Buddha's teaching, and then the grandmother might be saved,\" or something like that. You know it goes on, you know, repetitioning.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd that seem to be the idea: that you think you are being smart in the ordinary world, and you're completely fucked up. And you have no understanding, no idea, how you conduct your life, in any case. Unless that new dawn of enlightenment begin to shine on you. I mean that goes with anything, you know, it's a very simple thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=2413.0,2612.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I'm very confused about how one turns weaknesses around, when one really feels impotent about one's situation. How one uses that as an asset, to not to be impotent about it any more?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say more about it, your question?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: When one-- when I feel like terribly weak, and I do right now generally, about getting back into doing what I consider constructive things and getting out of the destructive, very unhappy lifestyle, the only positiveness I see is that I'm indulging myself so much into getting so much unhappiness, that sooner or later I'll act to do something really radical. But that doesn't seem [laughing] very satisfying.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not particularly. I think you can't change styles, if you don't have a basic sense of humor. And also sense of heroism. That, in a sense, that you trust yourself to begin with, altogether all along. Whatever you do you might fall into pitfalls, of problem situations, which was a mistake, a temporary mistake. And you might get into a better situation, but still you could make same mistakes. But nevertheless that you have some kind of guts, exist, in spite of the whole thing. And without that kind of spirit, whole thing seem to be hopeless. And it is absolutely necessary to build that kind of hardcore celebration, and sense of basic sanity. Which might not occur so *often* in your life, particularly. But it might occur occasionally. And working with those situation as somewhat saving grace, but not as providence taking as that. And the need for some kind of pride, but not necessarily arrogant. Good luck, sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=2612.0,2768.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Can you say something about the-- dealing with, partaking of, Hindi and Buddhist tradition both? And...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hindi?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: From India. I feel some difficulties with that, contradictions, trying to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean Indian tradition? Did you say \"Hindi\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yes. I feel--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hindustan. Hindustan, in Buddhism. Or Hinduism, Buddhism. [Laughs] Well Hinduism is seem to be equivalent of Judaism. Has a lot of cultural setups, like dietary laws and marriage systems, relating with your relatives, and all kinds of things, that exist, which is equal to Judaism. And out of that a different kind of experience begin to develop. Buddhism is supposedly non-cultural thing, because Buddhism doesn't have a marriage ceremony, but only \"guiding the dead\" ceremony exist. And I think question is there could be contradiction, if you're involved with too much of society behavior, and food and patterns of behavior. That Buddhism supposed to go beyond that; it's more pragmatic in the sense of enlightened point of view. That it doesn't particularly pay attention to the four caste that exist in the Hindu tradition. And-- is there something more to say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: If the longing for God is present, how does one deal with that, in meditation practice?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As far as hardcore Buddhism is concerned, longing for God is regarded as simply just a fickle of your thought, another bubble that comes up in your mind. [Laughter] And it's a question of pre-programmed setups that exist in you. As far as Buddhism is concerned there-- God doesn't exist. And not because God doesn't exist, because *you* don't exist. And therefore that there's no one to perceive God as such. If God has to be solid, that you have to be solid at the same time. Which goes against the norm of *reality* -- that you are impermanent, you are subject to constant change in *any* case. So therefore, that if you had created God, God doesn't exist in any case. But in turn that God can't create *you*, because if God is eternal and had created you as eternal child of God, then you can't die, you can't decay. And there's a logical problem: you *do* decay, you do die, you breathe in and out in any case. You have constant change taking place, in any case. So whole logic seem to flop, from that point of view. So as far as Buddhist point of view, that God is just another parental figure that exist in our mind. Other than that, there's-- doesn't hold the truth. But still it's-- it's a good idea in some sense. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=2768.0,3018.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I was wondering how-- it seems that a certain kind of discipline is necessary. I was wondering how Marpa would deal with his children in terms of discipline?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sure it was a very orthodox Tibetan household. He always says \"yes and nos\", and he's very tough, and the reason he deals with Milarepa is very tough one at the same time. I'm sure he dealt his children the same way. And maybe they have experienced very hellish experiences. [Laughter] And I mean from that point of view, the society exist around Marpa is very orthodox society, medieval society, who believe in the punishment. Which is not particularly fault of Marpa or fault of Buddhism, but social norm exist. I'm sure that he spank his kids millions of times. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Do you think in this culture we have a problem with parental authority and discipline?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we do in some sense, but we don't at the same time. I think that the question of being a friend with your own kids, rather than trying to create a program, that you have trained in the certain particular attitude, philosophy; that tend to become very complicated. And just direct relationship with your kids, \"yes and no\" in a very simple way. And kids begin to experience that, when you say \"no\" with uptight voice, they think there's-- you can-- the kids begin to pick up that kind of message, and they begin to mock you. Whereas if you say \"no\" in the sense of your conviction, they begin to respect you. So that's kind of situation, [laughs] in my personal experience dealing with my own child.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Do you think that the development of personal discipline would be a natural result of that kind of a relationship?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think very much so. I think that-- I mean the kids, kids don't just buy what you have to say, but they watch how you *behave*, and they copy you. That seem to be the basic point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: At what age do you think you would introduce meditation to a child?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would say around about eight and a half or something there. I was raised when I was nine, but I think go more than beyond that, because I was already curious what's about what's these people doing [laughter] when I was eight. And I was completely frustrated. And I thought they putting me into a different category of being a kid, unable to share their world.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: How long-- did you sit for long periods at that age?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: At nine? Maybe two hours. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Someone mentioned today in our discussion group that they felt that in a way the Tibetan way of life itself was a practice of mindfulness. And I'm wondering if people-- if the culture of this country would prepare children to sit.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think Tibetan life is not particularly all that enlightened society actually. It's as much as fucked up as society exist here. That we don't want to particularly worship that Golden Age of the Tibetans particularly. [Laughter] I think that's a mistake, to view that way. And in fact there are lot of unintelligent measures to dealing with society that exist, mistakes and orthodoxy, that I think only such situation can be experienced by somebody who's brought up in Orthodox Jewish tradition. That how the Orthodox people are so narrow-minded, who came from Russia, who came from goodness knows where, where to... And that kind of saying the same thing: ethnic uptightness, and the morality that exist in the Tibetan world, at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut I think the situations here are much more workable in some sense, in a *greater* sense, in fact. That the parents already awake, and they have some intention and some kind of long-term projects. As long as the parents are not get-- not involved into dogma, of completeness, that such as like kids shouldn't be fed meat. They should be kept vegetarian. Or\"they should be fed a certain kind of discipline. And they shouldn't be shown, you know, jet airplanes and everything should be peaceful. And that sort of love and lighty trip, which is absolutely failure. You could make your kids more aggressive than you expected, because they're prohibited to do that.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut I think apart from that, we have actually in this country we have ideal situation to bring up our child. Because parents are so up-to-date in their perspective to the world, and their philosophy and everything, and we could do a great job by bringing up our kids. And I feel that way [laughing] myself, and I feel looking forward to it. In fact, last night I dreamt about my kid, and telling him about meditation. And he was taking very lightly and making jokes of myself. [laughter] And he thought [INAUDIBLE] mindful, and he make--\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360#t=3018.0,3383.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144651/file/267360/transcript/77280/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Could you repeat what the other three disciplines were that Marpa taught to his other three major disciples? What happened to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Other two.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Beg pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Other two.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I'm sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Other two.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Other two.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: What happened to them? And what were the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think they be dissolved into-- in the major two, which is the intellectual discipline as well as the practicing discipline. And somehow it didn't materialize as outstanding particular school. And somehow that-- something to do with Marpa's loss of his son, actually; talking about family, has a lot of things to do with it. That he lost his son, and he felt extraordinarily depressed, and that somehow that it was an insult in his life. And he being predicted by Naropa, saying that he lost his son-- he will lose his son, his heir, because he did the wrong move. Which was-- goes back in tradition, that Naropa created a flash of mandala, out of miracle, and he set himself on the chair, and he told-- he asked Marpa, \"Which way you will prostrate, to the deity that I created, or to me?\" And he thought, \"Well, it will be difficult to find a deity like this, and a fantastic mandala like this, I will prostrate to the mandala obviously.\" He did prostrate, and he did ask for the information, instruction. And that was the mistake: that he didn't have enough trust in his own root guru, personal teaching-- teacher.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd from that situation onward, that that kind of breakdown of establishment of anything is become impossible. That they hear only that heir that he can extend was through his own wisdom and intellect, rather than the family hierarchy, family body, of solid Marpas coming down through the lineage, which is lost. Which could have been fantastic, if they could continue actually, that there is actual farmers in the lineage, who actually farmed from the ages and ages and ages, and-- but I suppose [laughing] by this point they become businessmen. [Laughs] But still it's good, maybe, there was one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: What-- can you speak more about the heroic student, or of that discipline that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think in the sense of heroism, is a sense of enormous delight, and sense of enormous unconfused clarity. Heroism, in this particular tradition, can only happen that students are not getting into all kinds of other sidetracks. Because then your sense of heroism is split. You might get into Sufi, you might have to get into Hindu, you might have to get into Catholic, might get into this and that, alchemism, or whatever it's may be. That your heroism doesn't focus on one point. That heroism is one-pointedness, in sense of committing oneself in the one particular discipline, which is this. And at the same time there is sense of fearless of it, and a sense of maybe being tricked, which is good. You been feel that you be tricked, and maybe why not? And at the same time the whole kind of amalgamation of that thing which makes whole thing one-pointedness. Which makes sense of heroism; that you feel that you're carrying the flag, or you’re blowing the bugle. 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