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Genuine spiritual path as working with the mind directly, seeing all its facets: fickleness, subconscious gossip, dwelling on past and future. Importance of recognizing impermanence. Uses analogy of surgical operation that pierces ego. Explains details of meditation practice: following the breath, developing awareness, letting go of thoughts. Experience of \"cool boredom\" is emphasized as a \"good feeling\" that contains energy and Intelligence. Discipline of sitting practice is process of letting go of entertainment. In Q\u0026amp;A, describes further practice and view of meditation. This talk became basis for the chapter \"Boredom\" in The Myth of Freedom.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Myth of Freedom","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 03","SRCBOOK: Buddhadharma Without Credentials"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: MYTH OF FREEDOM: Section 3: Sitting Meditation; Chapter: Boredom\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-myth-of-freedom-and-the-way-of-meditation-1073.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 3 (in contained book MYTH OF FREEDOM)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-384.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSRCBOOK: BUDDHADHARMA WITHOUT CREDENTIALS (out-of-print): Meditation and Boredom\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eFeb 23 2020 to Jun 16 2020 Transcribing: Leandra Ziegler Checking: Julia McKaig Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA incisive talk about meditation and working with the mind, as experience of \"buddhadharma without credentials.\" Seeing beyond dualism, fabricated sense of separateness as ways of reinforcing ego. Genuine spiritual path as working with the mind directly, seeing all its facets: fickleness, subconscious gossip, dwelling on past and future. Importance of recognizing impermanence. Uses analogy of surgical operation that pierces ego. Explains details of meditation practice: following the breath, developing awareness, letting go of thoughts. Experience of \"cool boredom\" is emphasized as a \"good feeling\" that contains energy and Intelligence. Discipline of sitting practice is process of letting go of entertainment. In Q\u0026amp;A, describes further practice and view of meditation. This talk became basis for the chapter \"Boredom\" in The Myth of Freedom.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/185/677/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1682382492","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19730311VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":3334.34776,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/185/677/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1682382492","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/185/677/original/19730311VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3?1682381894","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3334.34776,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730311VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"﻿[19730311VCTR1 - Public Seminar - NYC - Buddhadharma Without Credentials - Talk 3]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Buddhadharma Without Credentials held in New York City at the Centre Street loft. This is talk number three, March 11th, 1973. This is an ARP digital remaster made December 2006.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=0.0,21.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And we discussed yesterday about ego's setup, and its deceptions, connected with demanding credential. Maybe tonight we could discuss the brief outline of the nature of the path: buddhadharma *without* credential. As I've already mentioned I prefer to use the word \"buddhadharma\" rather than the \"Buddhism.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=21.0,57.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The lineal process of the teaching are related with lineal process of the need for ego's deception. Similarly, medication is based on sickness of a person. To begin with, there seems to be a need for simplifying dualistic fabrication, or piercing through the dualistic fabrication.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=57.0,112.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But there is very interesting psychological situation, that beginner's teaching is also dealt with the simplistic problems, or simple problems of ego. That is to say the level of fifth skandha, of skandha of consciousness. At the same time, it is also dealt with the fundamental problems of skandha of form, which is the basic split, basic schizophreniac [sic] mentality. So, the schizophreniac [sic] mentality runs right through the skandha situations altogether. And it begin to develop final defense mechanism in skandha of consciousness, or fifth skandha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=112.0,181.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"To begin with, in order to destroy the mentality of credential, simple meditation practice, extremely simple one, direct one. Rather than that of analytical approach, to trying to find holes in our confusion, trying to find the holes in duality, directly dealing with mind. A mind in this case has all kinds of facets; that the mind which formulate the separateness, fundamental duality, and mind that formulate the concepts, and mind that formulate possibilities of conning projections, or, killing projections. Which is love and hate. And then beyond that there are discursive thoughts, or subconscious gossip as I call it. Mind which shivers around in the fickleness situation, jumps back and forth, memories of day to day situation and what you have to do in the future and what you have done in the past and what you need to be now, and so forth. So there's several layers, when we call mind. It's a very big word.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=181.0,287.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the Buddhist way that there's no soul, or basic substance which called soul. You say that something lack-- something is lacking soul, which we generally say basic strength of its abstract qualities, of holding together. As far as Buddhist of looking at skandhas concerned, there's no soul, nothing holds together, everything is separate. Everything is conditioned by impermanence, everything is conditioned by egolessness, and suffering. And suffering and impermanence, egolessness are very powerful materials, that can't be hold together. There's no binding factor *at all*. So, we have discursive thoughts, which were not hold together, but happens sketching-- sketchy way, haphazard way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=287.0,357.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, fundamental dualism, and a concept and apparent intelligence, that goes in the mind, what's called mind, are the-- like the veins of your body, which circulates blood system. Subconscious gossip, and all the little mental activities, are the muscles, which begin to link with the one flow to another flow, which binds together. So in order to have completely functioning body, you need the muscle system and tissue of your skin and flesh and fat, as well as you need the veins to hold them together, provide backbone of something. That you have body, you have bone behind it, the marrows and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=357.0,419.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, meditation practice from that point of view, is purely dealing with the subconscious gossip, the fringe -- but still seem to be important. So, practice of meditation is in other word *undoing* process, in which if you want to destroy your body of ego, you start with providing slit in the skin. And then you get to the nerve system. And having had already provided slit in your skin, then you could get to the muscles, and the veins, as well. So therefore meditation is a way of gradually eating out this gigantic hoax; gradually undoing it. So the practitioner who are not involved with the credentials to begin with begin with operation. In this case we could use the word \"credential\" from the point of view of that, like your sickness, your illness, you need operation. And your sickness is by no means necessary proof that you exist. You could have a better way of proving your existence, much far better than, \"you are sick therefore, you exist.\" That's the credential that \"I am sick, therefore I am real. I feel. I feel pain.\" So, operation is to eliminate that kind of notion of making yourself important person, because simply you are sick.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=419.0,560.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Of course you can attract all kinds of attention if you declare that you are sick. Then, you can phone your relatives and friends that you are sick, and they'll come and help you \"Poor, poor person who's sick now, and he's in bad shape. He needs some help. Let us phone the ambulance.\" And you need constant entertainment while you are in ambulance, somebody sits beside you. And even when you are in hospital you get tremendous entertainment. To acknowledge your existence. But that's very wretched way of proving your existence. That's the precisely the credential does, is that you prove that you are sick and you need your attention, you need your disciples, you need your friends to sit round you; \"poor thing needs more attention,\" from this point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=560.0,613.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, somebody decide to do that, then. \"We have operate on this person, eliminate the sickness, the credential sickness. But if we put this person into anesthetic, under the influence of anesthetics, local or general, whatever, person doesn't realize how much that person had to give out-- give into. So, the obvious thing is that the person is going to have operation, but we are not going to use anesthetics at all. Just purely for sake of experience. It's like natural childbirth, that the mother would like to see that her child has been born, child has came out of her body, and child does exist, she exist. She would like to see how child enters into outside the world. Another form of giving birth; birth to the buddhadharma without credential.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=613.0,693.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, you see, that you give birth to dharma actually. The people who operate on you are helpers, you are who demand operation to begin with. So, this person shouldn't have anesthetics of any kind at all. Taken straight to operation theater. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=693.0,723.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LUCIEN CARR: Fuck you!\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Granted. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=723.0,746.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now in the operation theater, the first and starting point of operation, is make a little slit in the area of complaint, with the extraordinary sharp razor, knife, surgical knife; sword of Manjushri is the surgical knife. Or the compassion without idiot compassion is the surgical knife. Little slit. Doesn't seem to be all that painful as I been told. Sit and meditate is little slit on your skin. And \"I been told sitting meditating is extremely boring or difficulty-- or difficult to accomplish. But didn't seem to be all that difficult.\" At the beginning it seems quite easy, you just sit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=746.0,825.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But skin at this point of view, is the subconscious gossip in your mind has been cut through, by using a certain techniques -- either working on the breathing, or walking or whatever. It's very humble gesture, of the surgeons; that sit and cut through your thoughts, just work on your breathing, breathing out, in. Just natural breathing, no special breathing, just sit and develop a watchfulness of your breathing. And this case it's not developing concentration of breathing, particularly. When we talk about concentration that seem to be a theistic language, in a sense that you have something to grasp, something to get hold of, you are here trying to concentrate on something, act of God or holy ghost, or whatever you have. The-- rather than concentration, it is called awareness, recollection. In Buddhist term it is called, \"satipatthana\" practice; the development of watchfulness, development of awareness rather than concentration.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=825.0,919.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the awareness is a non-theistical term. Aware what's happening there, *be* what is happening right there, rather than develop concentration as to it contains goal-orientation. Anything connected with the goal-orientation is theistic, journey *towards* somewhere *from* somewhere. Just being watchful, being aware, recollect what's happening right there, is non-theistical-- atheistic approach. Which is Buddhism is fundamentally atheistic, non-theistic approach. No goal, no achievement, but just work on what's happening *right* there, *precisely* what's happening there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=919.0,976.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you just sit, meditate. No promise of love and light, visualizations of all kinds. No angels, no devils. Nothing's happening, absolutely boring. Sometimes you feel silly, one often ask the question, \"Who is kidding who?\" \"Am I on something or not?\" But you are not on something. Traveling on the path doesn't mean you are *on* something that you get off at all. You are *out* of everything. Sit and feel your breath, be with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=976.0,1036.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then you begin to realize, actually the slitting out it didn't really take place by when you were introduced to sitting practice. Slitting out your skin hasn't been introduced properly. But the actual slitting takes place when you begin to feel the boredom of it, real bored, you'll be bored, bored to death. \"I'm supposed to get something out of this so-called Buddhist trip, meditation. I'm supposed to attain yanas of all kinds and so forth. I haven't. I feel bored stiff.\" And even your watcher is not sympathetic to you. [Laughter] Begin to mock you. \"It's only three minutes, you thought it was *fifteen* minutes.\" [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=1036.0,1122.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"From this point of view, boredom is important, because boredom is anti-credential. Credentials are entertainment; always bring you something new, something lively, something fantastic that you can get off on it. Entertaining all kinds of things and presenting all kinds of solutions of all kinds. But when you begin to take off the idea of credential, credential equals boredom. Entertainment equals boredom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=1122.0,1167.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Last time, we had a film workshop on discussing the world of entertainment, whether that was important, or making good film is important. And what I had to say was that maybe the audience might be bored by what you have to present, but at the same time that we have to raise the standard of the audience, up to what you are presenting, rather than trying to constantly match their expectations, their entertainment level. So once you begin to tune into entertainment level, that you have to constantly bend down and bend down *and* bend down, and until whole thing becomes *absurd*. That if filmmaker has some idea, some dignity of some kind, that presents its own idea-- his own idea, her own idea, and present it, maybe it is extremely ill-received at the beginning. But possibly well-received, once people begin to catch up on it, to raise the standard of living, people's sophistication, audience sophistication.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=1167.0,1250.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Similarly, the boredom becomes important in meditation practice, to raise the standard of living of people's approach, psychological sophistication, to appreciate the boredom. And until the boredom begin to become cool boredom, like mountain river, it follows, it flows, it flows constantly, methodically and repetitiously. But it's a very cooling system, very cooling, very refreshing. Mountains don't get tired of being mountains, and waterfalls don't get tired of being waterfalls. Because of their patience, we begin to appreciate them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=1250.0,1304.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is something in that. I don't want to sound particularly romantic about the whole thing; I'm trying black picture of the whole thing, [laughter] but that was a sort of slip. [Laughter; laughs] It *is* good feeling, to be bored; constantly sitting and practicing. Sitting, sitting, sitting *and* sitting. First gong, second gong, third gong, more gongs yet to go. Sit and sit, sit, sit. Cut through the vein,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=1304.0,1359.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"until when the boredom becomes extraordinary powerful. We have to work hard at it. It seems this point we can't really study vajrayana, or for that matter even the mahayana; we are not up to it, because of we haven't actually made relationship with the boredom, enough. So, to begin with we have to become straightforward person who could relate with the hinayana, or the narrow path, strict path, straightforward path. Path that doesn't provide any sidetracks, path that is direct and simple and open, at the same time -- but *kind*, but very boringly kind -- is important to begin with.\r\n \r\nIt's very boring to talk about it. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=1359.0,1423.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I would like to make tremendous emphasis on this. Because this is the only-- one of the only saving grace, that we have, is to-- in order to save ourselves from spiritual materialism, and from buddhadharma *with* credentials. In order to become buddhadharma *without* credentials, that introduction of boredom and repetitiousness is *extremely* important. Without that, we have no hope. It's true: no hope. But even that, beyond that may be hopeless, but it's situation of hopelessness which is necessary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=1423.0,1473.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There are different styles of boredom of all kinds. In the Zen tradition in Japan, create boredom of its own, in the monasteries. Sit and cook, eat. Sit in zazen, and do your walking meditation. Kinhan? Kinhin? It's called \"kinhin\"? And so on. But to American novice who goes to Japan, who take part in this, or American novice who does Zen tradition practice, this country, doesn't seem to get the message of boredom, exactly. Instead, if I may say so, it's turned into a militant appreciation of rigidness, opposed to actually getting bored. Which is very strange actually, it hasn't designed that way, to the Japanese, it's a ordinary Japanese life situation in which you just do your daily thing, and you just sit a lot in zazen. But to the Americans, to the Westerners, that you begin to appreciate the little things, how you do your-- I forget the term for that is the-- how you do your bowl, after bowl, and when you eat consciously in the zazen sitting. That's supposed to just be-- create a feel-- much more boredom. But to the American students, that becomes work of art. [Laughter] This, \"you're cleaning your bowl, and you're wash out, and you fold it in your white napkin,\" and so forth, becomes a work of art. And even sitting in the zazen black cushion; the black cushion is supposed to provide no colors, complete boredom. But to the Americans, brings mentality of militant: blackness, straightforward, [UNCLEAR: bulge out our chest?].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=1473.0,1628.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, things are very subtle in this case, extremely subtle. Tradition is trying to bring out boredom, to create boredom, of the first narrow path, discipline. But instead it turns out to be a archeological, sociological survey of interesting things to do. Something you can tell your friends: \"You know what I did last year? I spent whole fall, whole autumn in sitting in Zen monastery. For six months. And I watched the autumn, I watched the winter, and I did my zazen trip. And everything is so precisely beautiful. And I learn how to behave, I learn how to even walk, I learn how to eat. It was wonderful experience.\" [Laughs] \"Not the least that I got bored [laughing], at all.\" [Laughter] You see what kind of thing you getting out of that? It's the completely opposite, of what it meant. Instead of getting bored, and recommending your friends, \"don't do it.\" [Laughter] You tell your friends, \"Go and it's great fun.\" [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=1628.0,1739.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And quite possible that in itself is, you make credential out of destroying credential, is another credential. You change your logic very cunningly. You can get all kinds of things that way. It seems that first starting point, of destroying ego's first thick wall, is to create with the-- destruction can be only created by getting into strict discipline of sitting practice; no intellectual speculations, no philosophizing, but just sit and *do it*. That seem to be the first strategy of developing buddhadharma without credentials.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=1739.0,1795.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would like to go much more details, as we go along tomorrow and the day after and so on. And perhaps we should at stop this point and make this particular issue pronounced one. Thank you. Could begin with the discussion now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=1795.0,1830.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n \r\nSPEAKER1: Suppose one thinks, you know thoughts. Like, I am very aware that I am thinking -- I am \"gossiping,\" as you put it. And, what do you recommend we do about it? I mean I have not done anything about it--\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, just acknowledge that you are gossiping, and verbalize it mentally, just saying, \"thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking.\"\r\n \r\nSPEAKER1: And that's boring, now.\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah [laughter]. That's the whole point. And then come back to your breathing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=1830.0,1866.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n \r\nALLEN GINSBERG: I've been sitting a lot, and thoughts continue, as with a play. The thoughts are repetitious -- and in that sense boring. Is there any way of actually cutting them out or is that the point? Is it-- or are you supposed to attempt to get rid of the thought or get bored with it?\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You are not supposed to particularly get rid of thoughts, but you are supposed to develop repetitiousness of the technique. And by working with the technique, then thoughts becomes repetitious as well. So they become-- they're transparent, rather than entertaining.\r\n \r\nALLEN GINSBERG: By sinking into the breathing, do the thoughts themselves finally quiet? Or do [INAUDIBLE WORDS]--\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there's no promise, that you have to find out what happens.[Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=1866.0,1922.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n \r\nSPEAKER3: Is there perhaps some connection between what you call boredom and what in the West we call frustration?\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you give me definition of frustration?\r\n \r\nSPEAKER3: Frustration is having thoughts that you would like to do, which you cannot do because those things are not there with which you would do them.\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think seem to be different. I think so.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER3: In other words, your thoughts that you may have, boring, over and over and over; things you might be able to do yourself: you might be king, you might be emperor, you might be master of all women, you might be all these things, right?\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. But still it bores you-- still it bored you.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER3: It gets to bore you, right!\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, still it bores you, yeah. It's not so much of that you are not *allowed* to do things, therefore you get bored, or frustrated. But you can do anything, but then what? The same thing happens all the time.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER3: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But then, even trying, you can imagine you are trying it, then even the imagination is boring. What happens after that?\r\n \r\nSPEAKER3: Indeed, I wonder.\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You get bored. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=1922.0,2005.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n \r\nSPEAKER4: Is it possible to sit too much? If I have the opportunity, why not then quit my job and find some really boring place and... [laughter] [INAUDIBLE WORDS] You don't seem to be saying that, you know, as far as I heard. I mean it's the first time I had that, you know, idea from listening to your talks or tapes.\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you can do both. You could sit and you could work, go to job, earn your living. So the two boredoms become complementary. [Laughter]\r\n \r\nSPEAKER4: But I've become more interested in [INAUDIBLE WORDS] Previously I said, \"Wow, I have, you know, the job,\" and seemed pretty boring before I started practice. Now it's seems, \"Wow, let's have a working-- make a working situation out of it.\" And it seems interesting, I like my job now. [Laughter]\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, do it more. Do it more.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER4: Oh.\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Get into it more.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=2005.0,2073.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n \r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, there seems to be a kind of ego activity that keeps me from making a credential out of the boredom itself, because you say you have to become bored and relate with the boredom, and there's a tendency to say, \"Well, great, I am bored, they said it's good to be bored and I am bored and that's wonderful, and I must have achieved another level in that case, if I am now bored.\" But there's, you know, still an ego activity, which just comes along and says question the whole thing. You feel that maybe somebody here is pulling my leg. And what am I doing here in first place being bored? And in that sense the ego activity there seems to be an unhealthy-- unhealthy thing--\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, yeah, it seems that we can't really create insurance policy out of this. That we have to go on experiencing all *kinds* of expressions of boredom, all kinds of manifestations of boredom. We have to go on, go on doing it. Until that we are able to cut down the credential trip. I mean at some point you begin to lose interest in credentials. That seem to be the point, to destroy the credentials, which comes from entertainment, pleasurable situation. Which is actually asking a lot to people, who take part in the path. But that's necessary commitment; to destroy the notion of credential, and notion of goal-orientation, and entertainment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=2073.0,2195.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n \r\nSPEAKER7: When I get bored meditating, it seemed to indicate to me anyhow that there was something wrong with me. Is that the case, is it an indication that there's something not right with you, or something that needs to be corrected?\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, because you are bored.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER8: Bullshit! You say it's fun to be bored!\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n \r\nSPEAKER8: You say you're supposed to be bored.\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what I mean. [Laughs] SPEAKER7: It's an indicator.\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's saying the same thing. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=2195.0,2211.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n \r\nSPEAKER9: It sounds as though you could assume credentials at any stage, can you assume credentials of hopelessness?\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can do all kinds of things, sure.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER9: So, the process of assuming credentials should be destroyed.\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what I mean, yeah. So, assumption of boredom could be credential, so therefore boredom should be regarded as wrong. You got that?\r\n \r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=2211.0,2264.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's question come again? Someone's fallen asleep?\r\n \r\nAUDIENCE: Someone's really bored! [Laughter]\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's all right. Let him go on, it's okay. Next question coming from there, that direction? What's next?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=2264.0,2292.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n \r\nSPEAKER10: Well, were you saying then every other state but boredom is sort of self-validating, you know, tends to continue itself, but boredom is the one state where you're sort of driven up against the wall and it's not going to keep continuing itself and keep validating--?\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both, both. I mean you see, the thing is that I don't have a prescription how to deal with the whole thing. Everything is regarded as self-improvising situation. And I can't say, \"this is right, this is wrong\" and therefore you have right thing to follow. You have to work on in your *own* way. You could read the scriptures, and the textbooks, sutras, but even sutras doesn't tell you how to go about it, but sutras might tell you how things might *be*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=2292.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n \r\nSPEAKER11: The more bored I get, the more agitated my mind seems to be. That would indicate to me that at some point my self is going to suffer a violent death. But that seems to be different from what you mentioned the other night when you said it would be a gradual death [INAUDIBLE WORDS]--\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, may not be so, particularly. There will be gradual death, which consist of short spurts of violent deaths. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=2340.0,2376.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n \r\nSPEAKER12: I've heard you speak at other times about during meditation sparks of energy arising. I always thought that sounded like an interesting thing [laughter], since my meditation is quite boring at times. [Laughter] How should I understand this business about the sparks of energy appearing? Is that something that happens later, or is it something that's more immediate?\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the boredom *is* energy from this point of view. I mean the boredom is the path, as well as the goal. So boredom doesn't mean just, you know, flat. But the boredom is energy, *is* energy. It's expression of intelligence; that's why you're bored.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER12: Well, suppose it's just flatness, without any particular active feeling--\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you don't have to have active feelings, particularly. Doesn't sound like there's a problem at all. Why don't you just go on?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=2376.0,2432.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n \r\nSPEAKER13: Would it be perfect to be bored forever?\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Perfect to be bored forever? That sounds like credential.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER13: Like a what?\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Credential.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER13: It's a question.\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's the answer. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=2432.0,2455.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n \r\nALLEN GINSBERG: I missed the other lecture so I didn't get the precise significance of credential.\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ahh, you should be listening to the tapes.\r\n \r\nALLEN GINSBERG: Okay.\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Maybe someone could say about it, if anybody has a...\r\n \r\nALLEN GINSBERG: Well, it's spiritual fireworks, and pleasurable spiritual attainment of [INAUDIBLE WORDS] --\r\n \r\nALLEN GINSBERG: --so ego.\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ego, yeah, yeah--\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --asking, potential to become charlatan. So forth.\r\n \r\nALLEN GINSBERG: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=2455.0,2494.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n \r\nSPEAKER14: It's possible to, it seems to me, cut off my thoughts more quickly if I'm very alert and if I suddenly say, \"I caught myself thinking, I better return to watching my breath.\" And it's also possible to just somehow not be so-- force myself back to my breath, in which case eventually, sometimes a long time later after daydreaming I come back and watch my breath. And I never know which of those two things to do.\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do the first one.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER14: To catch it as quickly as you can [INAUDIBLE WORDS] --\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's very boring thing to do.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER14: It's very exhausting compared to[INAUDIBLE WORDS]-- [laughter]\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what I mean, yeah, yeah. Usually when you sit and meditate you needs good food, and you can't just punish your body. That what Buddha found, was punishing himself and going through all kind of ascetic practices, it didn't lead anywhere. So physically you had to be comfortable, and have good food to eat; then work with your mind, which is exhausting thing to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=2494.0,2565.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n \r\nALLEN GINSBERG: The trick is to switch back to breathing whenever thought arises? TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n \r\nALLEN GINSBERG: As soon as you become conscious of thinking...\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I mean, that's why you have \"thinking,\" \"thinking,\" \"thinking,\" then come back. [Makes sharp vocal sound]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=2565.0,2594.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n \r\nSPEAKER15: I have a question about the uncomfortableness of the whole thing and all, you know, what to do about it. Whether to stay with it -- I don't mean concentrate on it, make a big thing about it -- but to not give in. That, you know, open your eyes, and cross the feet the other way, and keep rearranging oneself. Or whether kind of a credential is being made out of, you know, *not* getting comfortable--\r\n \r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] .\r\n \r\nSPEAKER15: --but I find myself in the trap of [INAUDIBLE WORDS] --\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, you can arrange yourself very quickly, you know; just don't question about too much of just being a martyr of yourself. And not discussing the philosophical implication of rearranging yourself, or settling yourself. But there is seem to be several barriers you have to go through. There's first irritation, which is just imaginary one which is transformed into body. Supposedly, your body is hurting, but actually your mind is hurting. And then go more and more and more, finally your body *is* actually hurting, so you rearrange your body, and then go beyond that. So it seem to be very simple.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER15: It's not to me though, I mean I get an itch-- TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n \r\nSPEAKER15: It's like a lot of flies--\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that, I mean that, also people find sometimes when they have to swallow a lot of salivas, and all kinds of itches, things that you never thought of happening, all parts of your body. They are psychosomatic symptoms.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER15: But you would say the ache in the back--\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER15: --and how I feel right now is the [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In the first stages it's psychosomatic. Maybe in the tenth stage, maybe it's real body.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=2594.0,2702.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n \r\nALLEN GINSBERG: I'm troubled by -- lying back -- by the problem of saliva every five minutes or so. So what do? Just let it choke me? Or just let it stay there, until something breaks it?\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean that-- you have to find the root of it. ALLEN GINSBERG: Yeah.\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That it means that your mouth and your head is not relaxed, that you begin to tense out something, you're centralizing your body too much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=2702.0,2721.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n \r\nSPEAKER16: The way it arises here, the boredom begins to smell like unresolved tension. Is that so?\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, not exactly. Boredom [sic: tension] tend to result... what's the word? Indignant.\r\n \r\nIndignant.\r\n \r\nALLEN GINSBERG: Indignant.\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Indignation.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER16: I don't follow, what's indignant?\r\n \r\nALLEN GINSBERG: It results from indignation?\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems that way. That you been captivated too much, and you feel--\r\n \r\nSPEAKER15: The tension results or the boredom results?\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The tension.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER15: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=2721.0,2779.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n \r\nSPEAKER17: In MEDITATION IN ACTION you speak of the place of theorizing, at an early stage in practice. Would you say this is-- is this earlier, than [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I was going to discuss about that tomorrow. And today I would like to really make a great emphasis on the sitting practice, which is the *only* way to cut through the credentials. And we discuss what happens tomorrow. And I have to get new information from my boss. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=2779.0,2826.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n \r\nSPEAKER18: I've noticed, apart from sitting, in a work situation, boredom tends to go along with stopping breathing. And I wonder if you can comment on that, what you do about that.\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. 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And I was wondering how to [INAUDIBLE WORDS]--\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What did you say?\r\n \r\nSPEAKER20: As I understood it the idea of all of this boredom and meditation and everything is to arrive in a state ultimately of hopelessness.\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER20: I was trying to understand, what would be the difference between a state of hopelessness as you're describing it, and a state of despair? And if there is no difference, then what's the good of getting into a state of hopelessness?\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, tremendous differences between despair and hopeless. Despair is resentful, and despair is suicidal notion. And hopelessness is something very extraordinarily creative thing. That you lost hope and you have all kinds of hopes coming; when you give up your hope, you go on with your hopelessness. It becomes the path of successive hopelessness. Is in other word, once you develop hopeless of one thing that doesn't mean to say you developed a state of *real* hopelessness, at all. You can't develop real hopeless until you become Buddha. So you go through hopeless, needs another hopelessness, that hopeless needs another hopelessness. So you go on, and on and on. So hopeless is the path, rather than desperation. Despair has some kind of self-hatred; hopelessness is some kind of warmth to yourself.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER21: Did you mean by hopelessness not, you know, being future-oriented, living in the future?\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean hopelessness is nonconceptual; give up the concept. When you give up concept, conceptualized mind, then that *is* hopelessness, because concept brings further proposals of all kinds. So hopelessness, opposed to non-conceptualization, is saying the same thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=2974.0,3113.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n \r\nSPEAKER22: Sometimes in working with the breath it's-- what happens is that actually it seems that thoughts do stop, or at least kind of fade away so that there's a feeling of pleasure. And then that seems to set up a-- when it comes back, when the thoughts come back it's like being overwhelmed by a sea of triviality. And so it seems that I'm then caught in a dualist-- that the meditation itself becomes sort of dualistic, that on one hand there's the breath, which is cutting through, you know, and is successfully cutting through, but it's like cutting through an ocean. So as soon as the waves are parted they just, you know, moments that you know-- it's not even the time factor, then they'll just come back, and that seems to bring a kind of depression. So I wonder what the relationship between depression and boredom is, if they're...\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think you have to work out yourself. If I would say something, it might create more problem.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER22: Also, I wanted to know if-- to go back to yesterday, when you're talking about pulling out the rug, would it be right to say that we can pull the rug out from under ourselves, and that meditation practice would be the way of doing this?\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, precisely, yeah sure, yeah. That is it, yeah. Boredom is in itself is pulling carpet under your feet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=3113.0,3210.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n \r\nSPEAKER23: I noticed that when I was-- today when I was meditating, during the walking periods, I felt tremendously relieved. But I wondered if that was the purpose of it. Or is-- does walking have another purpose?\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sound that you caught up in the credential.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER23: Probably, but what is the purpose of walking supposed to be?\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Just to relate with your body. Right leg, left leg, relating with the body.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER23: Yeah, I did that but I also, I wasn't bored anymore when I was walking. When I was relating to my body that way I wasn't bored.\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Too bad [laughter]. Try again.\r\n \r\nAUDIENCE: Walk longer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=3210.0,3262.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42726/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we might have to close at this point; it seems the night is getting older and older. If anybody like to relate with any teaching that's happening after I left this city, the venerable sir here is currently residing in the town.\r\n \r\nSPEAKER24: He's residing in Washington, but he will be coming here periodically.\r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, please talk to him, and make friends with him.\r\n \r\nWe should close our meeting. Thank you. Yours in the boredom.\r\n \r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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Let him go on,\nit's okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677#t=2280.91,2284.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89683/file/185677/transcript/42727/annotation/549","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Next question coming from there,\nthat direction? 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