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VAM as manifestation of reality from bleakness in form of confusion, pain, unhappiness. Meditation bringing E and VAM together, spaciousness and energy, general atmosphere and uncertainty. Seeing clutter as space. Narrow discipline and fresh air. Nausea, shenlok. Being burnt and frozen simultaneously.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Glimpses of Space","BOOK: Glimpses of the Profound","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 06"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: GLIMPSES OF SPACE: Part Two: Chapter 4: The Chicken and Egg (out-of-print)\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: GLIMPSES OF THE PROFOUND (in contained book GLIMPSES OF SPACE) -- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/glimpses-of-the-profound-3510.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 6 (in contained book GLIMPSES OF SPACE) -- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-380.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDec 20 2018 to Jan 21 2022 Transcribing: Matilda Perks Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Travis May Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1976"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eVAM from hinayana point of view and meditation practice. VAM as manifestation of reality from bleakness in form of confusion, pain, unhappiness. Meditation bringing E and VAM together, spaciousness and energy, general atmosphere and uncertainty. Seeing clutter as space. Narrow discipline and fresh air. Nausea, shenlok. Being burnt and frozen simultaneously.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/241/886/small/thumbnail_241886_1716518939.jpg?1716504552","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1716518534_19760409VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":2307.84,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/241/886/small/thumbnail_241886_1716518939.jpg?1716504552","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/241/886/original/1716518534_19760409VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4?1716518551","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":2307.84,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/transcript/67292","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19760409VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/transcript/67292/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"﻿[19760409VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Boulder - EVAM - Talk 4]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886#t=0.0,29.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/transcript/67292/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Here we are once more.  [Rinpoche points up to the ceiling and makes a cutting motion] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886#t=29.0,52.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/transcript/67292/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The other day we were talking about E principle from the hinayana's point of view, of the first noble truth level of bleakness and so forth. And tonight we might discuss the VAM principle that is connected with also hinayana tradition, which is out of the bleakness, some kind of manifestation and reality is begin take place. Which is also equally being same way as that of the E principle of the hinayana principle of bleak and a confusing and painful situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886#t=52.0,103.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/transcript/67292/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And confusion and pain begins from point of view of possibilities of losing territory. And where the usual unhappiness is occurred, because we begin to feel that we might lose our territory, we might lose our world, so to speak. In turn, we begin to consequently, continuously, trying to reestablish ourselves, and trying to have some sense of possession of ego constantly taking place. When that is happening, then there would be further problems, of course, of potential death of ego, so forth. And the notion of possibilities of death of ego, which cause a lot of pain and problems are the E principle and the space that is created, potential death, so to speak. And beyond that level, then what to do about that is the VAM principle, what we going to do about those things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886#t=103.0,205.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/transcript/67292/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"According to the tradition and discipline that has developed throughout the buddhadharma technique, that there is a sense of utilizing that desolateness in terms of some concrete practice of some kind. The practice is also trying to match the bleakness that we experience of a potential loss of ego. Meditation practice seem to be the way, where, at that particular point, the energy and spaciousness could put together. The sitting practice of meditation actually brings about bringing together the E and VAM principles together. So this principle goes throughout the whole three-yana level, each time when the teaching is presented. It is not so much of complete E and complete VAM, but EVAM becomes indivisible each time. That's why the techniques are the bringing them together in the basic point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886#t=205.0,318.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/transcript/67292/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in the sitting practice of meditation, we feel that there is some sense of simplicity, almost at level of simpleton. That just simple sitting practice of meditation, just very basic and very ordinary discipline of sitting on meditation seat and doing nothing. Which seem to be completely absurd -- if that's going to cure anything, that's going to do anything for you. [Laughs] It's very absurd. It's utterly absurd, in matter of fact. And because of the absurdity, it has some wisdom -- not even some, but *lots* of it. Immense wisdom that goes with that. That it goes with the general notion of rhythm and style, how we operate ourselves, how we actually ego-center ourselves throughout the process. That anti-ego is somewhat prescribed, going against ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886#t=318.0,422.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/transcript/67292/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the sitting practice of meditation, there is a basic space, basic openness. Somehow, strangely, there is also basic uncertainty. If your discipline is become completely certain and if you know what you're doing, then there's no journey. The uncertainty part is the VAM principle that takes place in the sitting practice of meditation. The E principle is being the general attitude, general atmosphere, that is always there. Putting them together makes *complete* work of art, so to speak. The desolate situation of life brought together. They present our work, our life, our existence, as being somewhat pushed ourselves into the teaching situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886#t=422.0,539.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/transcript/67292/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the Buddhist tradition, the notion of renunciation, notion of realizing the truth about suffering, notion of understanding about how much we have fooled ourselves. And we have been captivated by our own garbage, so to speak, our own cobweb, and our own thread, which in present-- which *imprisoned* us constantly. The more we begin to feel imprisoned, helpless and chaotic and terrible, that is the space actually, whether you like to believe or not. It's fact. That more we feel claustrophobia and the more we feel that we are completely clustered with stuff, and we are caught in the middle of traffic jam, completely, and that kind of little, or even *big* things that around us been-- that we've been surrounded by that situation and we can't actually get out of it at all. When we trying to get out of a situation, we have to produce or manufacture another stuff to get out of it. And that stuff in itself becomes in the way all the time. That is the space, E principle, actually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886#t=539.0,663.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/transcript/67292/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And because of that, then we begin to look for something else, another space type situation, another refreshing possibilities, and unable to find anything better at all and then we begin to sit and practice, meditate. The practice of meditation actually begin to give us some kind of perspectives as to the claustrophobia is the space and inspiration that works with the claustrophobia is the dynamic possibilities. So, E and VAM put together. And sitting practice of meditation is like that. It's very-- seemingly quite simple, actually. It's very, very basic. Extremely basic. That the general principle is that always there is a container and what contained is always taking place in the practice of any kind according to the buddhadharma.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886#t=663.0,740.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/transcript/67292/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let us discuss about the narrowness of the hinayana. The narrow and the militant, so to speak, discipline of the hinayana, becomes very powerful and important. And more you trying to make things narrower and more disciplined, that you begin to have some sense of fresh air taking place, simultaneously, all the time. One of the interesting point is that contradictions make sense here. Contradictions make sense unless you intending to lie, then it doesn't make sense. You telling lie rather than contradictions. There is a difference between the contradictions and lie. And the contradictions could be facts and figures, realistic views of things as they are. Telling a lie is trying to cheat somebody, which has nothing to do with the contradictions at all. Actually trying to go beyond contradiction, so that it becomes a lie, untruth.[Laughs] So that's the important point that where there's lot of space, means lot of claustrophobia. And lot of energy means lot of low energy. And you can get high on the low energy, of course. In many cases that we have done that ourselves, but nevertheless, it is energy, which we call depression as euphemism. When you're high on the low energy, is depression.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886#t=740.0,867.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/transcript/67292/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The notion of renunciation is, according to the Tibetan term, \"shenlok\", which literally means \"nausea\". You are completely nauseated with such claustrophobia that's take place in our life, in ordinary basic life, that our piles of dirty dishes in our kitchen sink, unmade beds, unpaid bills, and unfriendly telephone calls, and friendly telephone calls. And we begin to descend ourselves dust and cobweb completely -- as if, or literally, in some cases. We get phone calls or mails of people who will say that, \"We going to kick you out of your apartment, and we're going to cut the telephone connection, and, actually, somebody is going to sue you. Somebody going to sue you.\" And if you have higher connections, previously when you feel frivolous in the early days, then one of those mafias will come along and try to *kill* you on the spot. There's price on your head. [Laughs] It's interesting that point of view. There's lot of claustrophobia, and there's immense space and lots of energy is taking place in ordinary situations, at the kitchen sink level. It is very powerful one. Makes us think twice, thrice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886#t=867.0,1008.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/transcript/67292/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And sitting practice of meditation seem to be the only way in which that we can actually bring about together the notion of pain and notion of inspiration simultaneously -- sweet and sour at once. That's been done in the Chinese cooking [laughter], and people find that's quite delicious, at matter fact. In this case, much more than sweet and sour, actually hot and cold simultaneously. Freezing and burning simultaneously. Particularly, when students begin to get into the practice, they begin to get burnt but simultaneously being frozen at the same time. That you have a rigidity of being frozen, and you have, at the same time, the scorching qualities of being burnt at the same time taking place. And that seem to be the general view or general experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886#t=1008.0,1076.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/transcript/67292/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I begin to feel myself, begin to see in my particular personal experience of watching, our students have the facial expressions and physical behavior format of they've been burnt and frozen simultaneously. Which brings some kind of massage system. [laughter] Which is then they begin to begin to dance, begin to *like* it. And but they can't like too much. Once you begin to like, then you begin take sides, either to the cold or the hot areas. But when they begin to feel there's some kind of healthy awareness or wakefulness taking place, then hot and cold balanced completely. So you'll be cooled, you'll be warmed, simultaneously taking place in the hinayana level, of course. That's why the E and the VAM. E is being cold and VAM is being hot, taking place together, that point.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you have any questions, you're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886#t=1076.0,1164.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/transcript/67292/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: When we understand or accept these contradictions, is it more a feeling of just accepting that things-- the way things are, rather than coming to a greater logic?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well accepting things as they are, what you mean by that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Just opening up to the situation and not taking sides, not trying to maintain a hold on it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sounds too naive for me. There's something more energy than that. Some more energy than that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Would you explain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seem to be that accepting things as they are could be just leaving up to the situation to work itself out.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's not the case. But accepting things as they are from one angle, which would be simply, directly experiencing without any fear. You see, you could be accepting things as they are with a certain sense of panic, but you will say, \"No, this is the folk wisdom. And we should be accepting things as they are. Let's cool it, cool off, and just sit back. Smoke pipe in rocking chair.\" That's not quite the case here. And the case here is simply there has to be some kind of continual wakefulness, rather than if you sat back and let things happen in its own accord and everything is going to be hunky-dory, particularly. You see what I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's very... taut--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You're leaning into the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --and *chippy* -- is the only word I can think of.[Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Thanks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886#t=1164.0,1315.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/transcript/67292/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What's the relationship between EVAM and the feminine principle?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: E is feminine principle; VAM is masculine principle.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But sometimes it sounds like one could see E as being the mother aspect of the feminine principle, and VAM as being the dakini aspect.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. E is very tricky, [laughter] has everything. And VAM is just mere container occupants, which is sometimes helpless. So feminine principle has greater power, from that point of view. In other word, we can't breathe without oxygen.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So the-- so E--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The oxygen is feminine principle.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But that can involve energy too, or manifestations of energy.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we have to use oxygen in order to function, so to speak. So feminine principle is life-strength -- strength of life. We can't function without space. That's it. And once we have space, once the feminine principle has become graciously accepting the masculine principle, then you could do all kinds of things. But in this case we are not talking about a man and a woman, particularly, at all. We are simply talking in terms of principles. And we are not particularly saying women are superior or men are superior, particularly, but this case we are talking about just how the cosmos work, and how the mechanics and the chemistries. There are two elements of the container and contained interact with each other. If there's nothing to contained, the container becomes irrelevant. And if there's not enough container without what been contained, then vice verse, so to speak. So that's the idea we are talking about here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886#t=1315.0,1482.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/transcript/67292/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE:  [Motioning to person passing the microphone] You have to rush a lot, yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I'm really shocked at how familiar hinayana seems to be--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I'm shocked at how familiar hinayana seems to be. That's where I seem to be. And in any case, I've been thinking about not only is it difficult to transcend misery, but it's difficult to acknowledge it. And I was wondering, there is even a sense of embarrassment about it, a sense of shame? Is there a kind of a subterranean sense of responsibility that we choose this kind of existence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think the notion of that you are still not willing to be public, so to speak. That's one of the biggest obstacles. That's even in vajrayana level, the \"crazy wisdom\", \"yeshe cholwa\", principle of crazy wisdom, is that willing to be public. And in hinayana level, also, there should be some notion of willing to be public at the same time. You know, that we would like to keep some little privacy. And still there is a faintest of faintest of the faintest or maybe even much thicker level of deceptions taking place all the time. That we really don't want to present ourselves as we were-- we are, but we would like to reinterpret ourselves in order to present ourselves to the public always. There's that kind of translation of what you would like to see yourself as, rather than what you are.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: There's a different kind of pride involved--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's a neurotic pride of some kind, but still I think it is workable, actually. There's no particular problem. It sort of had to break through, you know. There's need to be-- obviously there's going to be some kind of stage fright of some kind taking place always, but nevertheless you can overcome them. And that's what it is all about. And actually that's beginning the vajrayana level, that performance that you are performing on stage. Everything's a dance on the stage. And in hinayanist acknowledge much more of the stage fright, much more. And you could overcome that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Hopefully.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sure you can do it. See what happens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886#t=1482.0,1658.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/transcript/67292/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, you said EVAM is happening all the time throughout three yanas and then becomes invisible. What do you mean by that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you repeat your question, please?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: EVAM is happening all the time throughout the three yanas. It's always going, but then it becomes invisible. What do you mean by invisibility?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Indivisibility.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Indivisibility.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Become one. Each level, it is indivisibilities of E and VAM together, and that happens throughout the whole yanas.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: And yet you can work with it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: And yet you can work with it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Work what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Work with EVAM principle.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Work with EVAM principle. Well, hopefully. I hope so. Otherwise, there's nothing left. Well if you can't work with your atmosphere and your body, there's nothing left for us to do. Is there? No house, no body, no practice -- poof! [Laughter] What is there left? [Laughs] I hope so. It's been promised in the scriptures, texts, that it is workable. That journey is indivisibilities of the accommodation and what's been contained in it, working together. Which we are trying to correlate with notion of E and VAM principle, this point. 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[Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I don't mean to say \"like\" in the sense of indulgency, but the student begin to feel familiar, that hot and cold are one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: And is that what produces the sense-- if I understood you correctly, it produces the sensation of the-- a transmutation from burning and freezing to like warming and cooling?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, no. Just having two experience at once, which makes whole thing is indivisible. You get completely exasperated about dualistic mind, couldn't jump back and forth anymore, so begin to accept the whole thing. You know, you begin to give in, so that hot and cold are, \"So what?\" One thing, one taste. That's it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: And that presents the possibility of moving into--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It doesn't present even any possibilities of actually *experiencing* it, experiencing hot and cold at once.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Well the balance sounds like something--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's no even notion of balance anymore. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's it! You see what I mean? If you begin talk about a balance, then you have a percentage of that, like tuning on your record player, and which is bass, which is treble. But in this case it's whole thing. It's like broken bottle and the juice inside is running out completely with both hot and cold at once. That's what we call potential vajrayana mess. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's quite delightful actually. It happens in hinayana level as well. When we begin to give in, not choosing for the hot or the cold, both become one completely. That's possible, it's been done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886#t=1767.0,1949.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/transcript/67292/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: What is the relationship between hot and uncertain? [Laughter] You talked about VAM in terms of uncertainty and in terms of heat.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Uncertainty? Can you say that again, the whole thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: That's-- yeah, that's what I said. I thought that's what you said, that the VAM principle was uncertainty.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Inquisitiveness. Uncertainty. Not knowing exactly what's happening. The occupants-- like if you move into a house, which are not particularly familiar with you, and you haven't been there before, you would like to look into every closet, what it's all about. Uncertainty. Occupants' problem. So?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: So... you also talked about the VAM in terms of being the hot, and E the cold. VAM the hot--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Hot, of course, yeah. It's-- hot cannot happen if there's [UNCLEAR: no?] cold to begin with, but you can't work other way around. In other word, without mother, there cannot be son. In this case, we are talking about chicken is first, egg is last. And finally Buddhists-- or tantrikas worked out which comes first. [Laughter] That's what we are talking about, the chicken comes first, egg comes after. 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They begin to act. You see what I mean? So it's same thing. You are not performing for anybody's entertainment, but you are performing as you *are* -- including wiping your bottom in the toilet seat and *everything*. Whether you're performing anything public or private, you are there. Jolly good show. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886#t=2072.0,2144.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/transcript/67292/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche, would you say that our first glimpse of space is usually perceived as fright or boredom or depression, basically, because we tend to compare it with what we experienced before?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Absolutely. We don't take it seriously enough. But on the other hand, we take too seriously, which is being E and VAM principle, hot and cold problem. That we don't relate with the hot as actually hot, and we think it might be cold. If you run your tap enough, it might come out cold water afterwards. And if you run hot-- cold tap, you have-- might run hot tap. So that's kind of distrust in the sense of chemistry that exist, simultaneously. You know, that you expect moon is going to turn into sun, and sun might turn into moon if you sit long enough.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So it's kind of a baby's view of space or something?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Infantile, definitely. Absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886#t=2144.0,2210.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/129046/file/241886/transcript/67292/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, friends that seem to be good way to ending. [Laughter] I understand tomorrow I'll be here earlier, according to my friends [laughter] in the administration. Good night. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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