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We typically experience effort as the struggle between what we instinctually want to do and what we think we should do. In cultivating mindfulness of effort, we look at our natural first instinct of self-consciousness, the first flash of duality. When we first begin meditating, we might experience a resistance to the discipline of practice. Bringing awareness to this resistance dissolves it. It also brings patience in the sense of maintaining non-aggression. Mindfulness of effort includes the exertion of being steady with our practice and not looking for a better, alternative reality. The whole Buddhist path is regarded as an ongoing journey that you're paying attention to.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Profound Treasury Vol 01"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: PROFOUND TREASURY VOL 1: Chapter 41: Mindfulness of Effort (partial source)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-path-of-individual-liberation-volume-1-3107.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eApr 29 2023 to Sep 15 2023 Transcribing: Tom Weiser Checking: Blaire Martin Final Proof: Julia McKaig, Leandra Ziegler Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1974"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAbout mindfulness of effort (a.k.a. mindfulness of mind). We typically experience effort as the struggle between what we instinctually want to do and what we think we should do. In cultivating mindfulness of effort, we look at our natural first instinct of self-consciousness, the first flash of duality. When we first begin meditating, we might experience a resistance to the discipline of practice. Bringing awareness to this resistance dissolves it. It also brings patience in the sense of maintaining non-aggression. Mindfulness of effort includes the exertion of being steady with our practice and not looking for a better, alternative reality. The whole Buddhist path is regarded as an ongoing journey that you're paying attention to.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/270/399/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1744930792","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1744930757_19740828VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":2428.26444,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/270/399/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1744930792","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/270/399/original/1744930757_19740828VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3?1744930759","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2428.26444,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740828VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19740828VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Techniques of Mindfulness - Talk 4] \r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Techniques of Mindfulness, held at Tail of the Tiger, Vermont. This is talk number four, \"Mindfulness of Effort\", held August 28th, 1974. This is an ARP digital remaster made May 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, Techniques of Mindfulness, talk four.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=0.0,32.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I thought today we'd discuss the mindfulness of mind. Which is I think-- what did we discuss?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Mindfulness of effort.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Effort? We discuss effort?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, I beg your pardon. I thought we were discussing something else. [Laughter] Yeah, discussing effort. Great. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=32.0,65.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The question of discipline, and the question of patience, and the question of exertion. It seems that there's some uncertainty. The ethical aspect of life, what one should be doing; and the instinctive aspect, that what one would like to do. Often we find that there are conflict, that the instinct is not properly met with the ethical attitude. And that brings a lot of tiredness, struggle, and loss of heart through the practice, into the practice, with the practice. So I think we are discussing, this point, is the meeting point of the instinct and effort put together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=65.0,177.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And often when we talk about effort -- and in the pejorative sense -- that we are talking in terms of that going against indulgency of natural flow, and trying to behave oneself in a certain sense. Which is a source of alienating oneself with reality, and also which brings a lot of non-mindfulness -- a great deal. So the question is, if there is a natural instinct, which is right and appropriate, then there is no problem; but at the same time, it is not as simple as that. It is to... realization of natural instinct first, rather than casual, natural instinct, is taken as a good gift and going along with it haphazardly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=177.0,258.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Practice of mindfulness of effort is developing a clear-seeing vision to be able to relate with the instinct that exist, so that exertion and patience can develop. And we might talk about what you mean by instinct? What is that? And that particular instinct we are talking about is instinct of self-consciousness -- almost we could talk about unconditional self-consciousness. Quite similarly, what we discussed the other day on the question of livelihood -- life, sense of life. In this case, in fact, we go further than just a sense of survival, sense of life, alone. But we go to the point that having a basic sense of consciousness, self-consciousness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=258.0,363.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we relate with things, world, that there is-- one of the first flash takes place is a sense of duality, separateness. And from that, then we begin to evaluate or pick and choose, involve ourselves into decision-making, executing desire, will. So in this case, we are not particularly trying to be good and absolutely perfect, but we are trying to utilize these tendencies that does exist in our system, psychological system. The first one is being a sense of duality, sense of separateness, just plain cognition. And at that level, the cognitive mind is somewhat unconditional, because we haven't made up our mind yet at the time -- we just projected. Because our projection, that we get feedbacks of that we are projecting, we exist, we are here and that is there and that's just all more or less about it. There's no hope and fear or any further things involved -- it's just a simple recollection, simple memory. That seem to be the one of the basic patterns.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=363.0,527.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Without realizing or recognizing the sense of self-consciousness, it would be difficult develop effort. Having developed that sense of somehow unconditional reference point of view, then it is possible to extend that, utilize that to living situations, awareness, practice awareness. Which brings the sense of effort. That the effort is not based on a particular plan, aim, but just a simple, unconditional effort to *be*, with the help of following the breath, or whatever in sitting practice, or in everyday life situation, whatever. That the process is developed already. So there is possibilities of experiencing a sort of purpose of life, which is somewhat vague and dubious. But at the same time, the purpose of life is to somehow solidify somewhere or other -- some area. And whole thing becomes rather vague, this point. But even the vagueness itself may be the stepping stone or solidity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=527.0,687.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the right effort of applying practice of meditation... usually it's the breaking the ice, so to speak, at the beginning. That there is a somehow unknown force that is imposing power on us: that we don't want to do it, that we don't want to get into practice meditation. There is almost kind of a schoolboy mentality, that you don't want to go to school. And that could be easily broken down, that problem could be easily broken down, by being *aware* of the awareness of resistance. And there you already-- you've started already. Your resistance been used as a doorstep to step over. And then beyond that, there is no problem, except little hassles that involved with the practice -- our irritating thoughts and bodily discomfort, or whatever. There's no further problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=687.0,783.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At that level, the notion of patience comes. It's not so much of patience is put up with the problem, bear the pain as such, but patience in a sense [is] the effort to maintain non-aggression. That's definition of patience, is remaining non-aggressively. And the aggressiveness brings a sense of trying to find out the \"productivities\" that's developed through sitting practice, or whatever, and evaluation of trying to gain something which will act as encouragement, landmark, achievement. So in fact the purpose of patience, at this point, is to overcome the achievement orientation, which is-- achievement orientation is being aggression.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=783.0,866.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then the question of exertion, or virya, which is the unceasing interest to this particular approach of sitting practice and awareness practice in general. And usually the problems of sloppiness, and things like that comes from a notion of discrimination. And discriminating in a sense that looking for some right way to do the whole thing. And thinking that what's happening in the problematic situation, what's there, is because you did the wrong way -- and constant the right way. Having not found it -- *the* way -- therefore you're having problem. And if you have found the right way, then everything going to be okay and smooth meditation, smooth awareness, smooth life, and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=866.0,964.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That looking for alternative is the problem that goes against sense of exertion. The exertion is non-discrimination in the sense you push everything into that area; you just go along with it. Like driving through a way-- highway, disregarding all the signposts, all the remarks that might see on the road, or different transport you might pass by, but still you keep driving. It's the nondiscriminatory approach is the exertion. Which doesn't mean to say that a person has to be somewhat dull or dumb and transform the person into a tank, particularly. [Laughter] But it's a question of continuity, steadiness, that's very much necessary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=964.0,1043.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So on the whole that everything brings us to the point here: that practice of awareness-mindfulness practice requires a lot of work, a lot of energy, effort, surrendering, and a lot of recognition that there is a working base does exist and one doesn't have to look for another, better alternative. It's question of regarding whole thing as ongoing journey. That journey has begun already. That little progress towards the goal is by no means big deal, and it has to be ongoing process, constant ongoing process. And effort is not so much of pushing, but bear attention to what's happening. And to bear attention doesn't mean to say you'll hold and bear attention, but you keep going as you bear attention.\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, we could discuss about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=1043.0,1167.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER 2: Were you saying that it's good *not* to watch the signposts? Sort of like, not get stopped by them, or not get, you know, interested in them? You know, you're just sort of passing them and acknowledging them? Is that what you were saying?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's the-- usually the style. And obviously these signposts are a mark of a journey of some kind. The journey is taking, but at the same time, not particular big deal.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Do you have the mic?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=1167.0,1237.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: You said that the resistance was-- the resistance to meditation and to one’s practice was somehow broken down by just the awareness of the resistance. But I had been somewhat under the impression that there was always *some* form of resistance that-- somewhere, that was somehow always working. Is that true?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, I mean, otherwise there wouldn't be any journey.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Right. [Laughs] But there see--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah. But there seems to be some sort of initial breakthrough that you do have to make to *some* kind of resistance.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah. Which is realizing the resist *itself* is journey; and you have begun already by relating with your resistance.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah, but can't-- I suppose at some point that the resistance *can* turn in-- I mean, if the resistance is too great, there can be a problem there, I suppose [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that's a matter of how much you feed it. If you are trying to eliminate resistance, then you are feeding it. Whereas if you just acknowledged such things [as] resistance does exist, then I don't see any problems. The very ideas of practice occurred in your mind, and that much resistance occurred in your mind at the same time. And depends on whether you want to make a big deal of the resistance -- which makes resistance greater, by trying to eliminate it altogether, and looking for a smooth practice without any resistance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=1237.0,1367.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Isn't this the same attitude as touch and go, then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. I mean, obviously these four topics doesn't, you know, conflict with each other; they are complementary all the way. Very much so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=1367.0,1423.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I'm not clear about how the instinct of practice arises or is uncovered, and how that was related to the sense of duality. Could you go over that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, sense of duality is there already and we don't have to particular-- make a study of it particularly. But instinct to practice is because somebody-- there is somebody to practice. Like, if you're interested in eating food, and the-- having the idea of food as such thing does exist -- which makes you more interested in eating food, the very idea of food, in your mind or in your actual physical situation. If there’s no concept of food involved at all, you could be constantly hungry but you wouldn't want to eat food particularly; there’s nothing to do. So it’s same way that there is something-- some basis exist of some self-consciousness of *this* does exist; and therefore, this is the beginning of practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: But, like, once you know that you're hungry and that there's food, you don't particularly experience any conflict about eating, generally. But people experience conflict about practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Well, I think it’s an evaluation problem. That people probably would have a conflict on food -- if you’re should be a vegetarian or meat eater. And precisely the same thing that the practices be somewhat presented to you has nothing to do with you, but the way of transforming you into a better personality. So there is, you have be already alienated by the very idea of practice; that you are not good enough but you could be better if you practice more, you know. [Laughter] And that's be already a way of alienating the whole thing by way of presenting practice in that way. So in this case, particular approach of the mindfulness of effort is concerned, is not so much that it is a way of reforming yourself, but starting with what you are. And just be what you are with exertion, with discipline. And you don't have to start as best of your ability particularly, but you just do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=1423.0,1636.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, you talked about not being goal-oriented in your practice. Are you limiting that just to the concept of-- as that applies to sitting practice? Or would that apply to, let’s say, other things in your life outside of sitting as well?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we are talking, this is in terms of spiritual development areas -- areas of mindfulness. Should be a plain mindful, pure mindful, rather than anything else implied around it; so that could be sitting practice, as well as awareness. I mean, one can't say that you shouldn't be goal-oriented if you're going to, say, ask a question right now. You can't be without goal-oriented, and you can't even open your mouth. And energy like that goes on. But whenever we put a spiritual implication behind it, you have a greater goal, which is greater problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=1636.0,1731.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You said something about the attempt of the mind-- within the psychology of the mind is the attempt to solidify everything. Which, if I understood you correctly, means that in this case we transmute that into using whatever arises as a solid on which we step to go on. Is that a correct understanding? Because I'm not quite clear about how we can use the tendency of the mind to want to solidify everything, in this case, as an advance-- as an adjunct to practice, rather than to pull us away from practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see, there's no problem involved. If you have begin to regard the whole thing is a way to get away from some problem; and then you have created the reference point and therefore you're solidifying it... the problem. Whereas if the attitude is just fresh, direct, the sense of duality does exist. But let us, you know, utilize it, let us work with it, rather than trying to sabotage that sense of self-consciousness, particularly -- deliberately. So everything’s included.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=1731.0,1847.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I'm not clear on how to keep awareness of the breath, and at the same time being aware of the resistance, or the obstacle, or the sense of duality. It seems to me that to be aware of resistance would, and does, take me apart, take me away from being aware of the breath. Can these be done simultaneously to work with the resistance, while at the same time being aware of the breath?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, they're both saying the same thing -- that the breath is alternating experience; it comes and goes. And the resistance is also a sort of pulsation, and the impulse to resist comes in spells. So somehow keeping with the breathing. Sometimes breathing act as a way of distracting your attention from awareness, mindfulness, and sometimes breathing becomes a help at the same time. So one can, you know, has two use of the techniques. That's why the older techniques are regarded as not particularly hundred-percent good, particularly. As soon as we have to introduce something, some techniques, the techniques could take you away from the integrity of a practice -- *and* could help at the same time, which is also part of the game of the resistance. But if you include the whole thing as just one big sweep that continues, you know, in your life, then there's no problem -- one doesn't have to try to discriminate fish to fowl -- or fowl to what? 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The resistance may be unconscious -- do I then try to just sit anyway and acknowledge that the resistance is there? That seems like a very strong effort, just fighting it. I don't know how to get started and not fight resistance at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well when you have resistance, you have awareness of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That is, in itself, is mindfulness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So you've sat already. [Laughter] And anyways-- in any case, you be caught. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well, yeah. Then does it just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And the sitting is not a big deal, you know. And sitting is just one of the expressions of mindfulness. And maybe it happens in our life, one eighth of our lives consists of sitting, if you're a particularly good sitter.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well you say it's not a big deal, but like, in New York you said very clearly that sitting was the only path to basic sanity.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: So that sounds like a big deal.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So we're not talking about sitting as a cross-legged particular sitting, but we are talking about the-- this case we are talking about developing attitude of sitting practice. That you realize that sitting practice happens to you anyway. And you thought you got away from sitting practice by resisting, but you're still doing it. [Laughter] So I mean, it's very haunting once the idea is introduced in your head. 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And if you took it everything seriously, and then it becomes entirely something else than path. That there is a need for sort of softness of some kind. Doesn't really matter -- the mental chatter is okay. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: It's like mental chatter doesn't take place in my head at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean you do it orally?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: No, it takes place within me, in the center.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that is mental chatter.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: It is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE Yeah. That's what it called. It sounds very bizarre when we talk about mental chatter, but that's it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: When it happens [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If it happens in your head or your heart, it doesn't really matter. It's still mental chatter.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Why is it not valuable?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, mental chatter is echo, so I don't think we can say it's not valuable. We can't say that this is not valuable, or this is valuable. And on the whole what we're trying to do is not get into dealership, particularly. [laughter] But we just trying to be straightforward to ourselves, you know. Whatever you have is-- you can't cut off and say, “I have invaluable finger, I should cut it out.” You know, you can't reject yourself like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=2166.0,2373.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You said that if there's a tendency to take everything too seriously, then the whole thing turns into something else that is then not the path. What is that then? What is that inversion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think that’s-- that there is more production of karma is be built, rather than eliminating karmic causation, which is the opposite way. The path is supposed to eliminate the karmic causality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=2373.0,2423.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78660/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, time for dinner. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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Vermont.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=6.25,8.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78661/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number four,\n\"Mindfulness of Effort\",\nheld August 28th, 1974.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=8.32,14.51"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78661/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital\nremaster made May 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four.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=22.32,27.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78661/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I thought today\nwe'd discuss\nthe mindfulness of mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=32.28,41.98"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78661/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which is I think--\nwhat did we 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Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=48.15,50.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78661/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, I beg\nyour pardon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=50.59,51.98"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78661/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I thought we were\ndiscussing something else.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=51.98,55.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78661/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, discussing effort.\nGreat.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=55.2,65.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78661/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The question of discipline,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=65.72,75.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78661/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and the question of patience,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=75.86,85.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78661/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and the question of exertion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=85.72,89.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78661/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that\nthere's some uncertainty.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399#t=92.76,100.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/146563/file/270399/transcript/78661/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The ethical aspect of life,\nwhat one should be 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