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The guards (protecting ignorance) and general (representing the skandha of impulse) have been defeated. Now the ministers and prime minister (representing the skandha of concept) are defeated through spontaneity and a joyful sense of humour. Next the king (representing the skandha of consciousness) surrenders through nondualistic open space which reflects his consciousness as openness. This abdication of the king also symbolizes discovering one's guru. Note: This talk is interspersed in an open dialogue with the audience.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eJun 28 2022 to Jun 27 2023 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Julia McKaig, Jessyca Goldstein Final Proof: Travis May Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1970"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eThe quest to dismantle the metaphorical castle of ego continues. The guards (protecting ignorance) and general (representing the skandha of impulse) have been defeated. Now the ministers and prime minister (representing the skandha of concept) are defeated through spontaneity and a joyful sense of humour. Next the king (representing the skandha of consciousness) surrenders through nondualistic open space which reflects his consciousness as openness. This abdication of the king also symbolizes discovering one's guru. Note: This talk is interspersed in an open dialogue with the audience.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/273/486/small/open-uri20250521-778-b2cswc?1747839451","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20250521-778-5xpgvq.mpga"]},"duration":5643.62444,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/273/486/small/open-uri20250521-778-b2cswc?1747839451","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/273/486/original/open-uri20250521-778-5xpgvq.mpga?1747839451","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":5643.62444,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19701228VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19701228VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Battle of Ego I - Talk 4]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Battle of Ego held at Tail of the Tiger, Vermont. This is talk four, given on December 28th, 1970. This is an ARP digital remaster made October 2005.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=0.0,61.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: TALK PART ONE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Continuing the problem, so to speak, [laughs] that, perhaps, we should look back what we said yesterday. The heavy of overcoming ego, this case, is strictly based on meditation experiences rather than a philosophy or based on any other theory. It's mental state. The neurotic state is unmasked by the sharpness and the preciseness of meditation methods. And the whole point is, whenever there is very complicated and well-established mechanism to defend oneself, only way to deal that-- deal with that is create a situation of simplicity. Introduce the different element, different way of looking at the situation. Which, of course, automatically sets chaos to the well-established confidence. The confidence that is connected with the security and well-guarded, self-centeredness of ego. And equally, the impulse which would be the next kind of stage where there’s a-- although there's a simplicity of state of being is there, but still there's attempt to get out of it, attempt to analyze and look back again, which is activated by impulse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=61.0,226.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This impulse could be said in terms of intellectualizing the simplicity, or could be said in terms of watching oneself operating, which is another familiar weapon of ego. The ego's version of spirituality is being aware of yourself all the time. Watch yourself, watch every step of practice that you do. Watch every kind of move towards spiritual path. You must watch and feel yourself. Which, of course, includes make sure that what you're doing is right, make sure that every path is being put into particular pigeonholes of evaluation. That is what watching is for, the watchfulness, the commentator. And this kind of awareness is could be said, therefore, very much of the impulse, the generals of this castle, the watchfulness, in other word, security. And this watchfulness then could distribute its discovery into emotional, intellectual, logical, levels of understanding.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=226.0,335.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that seems to be one of the biggest problems that we face is fundamental concept of security carries over all the time if the spiritual practice is based on ego. Therefore, this inquisitive quality or impulse quality is very powerful. Because once you watch yourself, there is automatically logical mind follows next. And once logical mind follows, automatically there will be then a tendency to evaluate in terms of good and bad, and then we are back to the operation of the guards, which is duality, ignorance. \"That's good one, that's bad one.\" Automatically, that we have established the firm ground of duality. So that's as far as we got yesterday, as far as terms of lectures goes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=335.0,414.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And next proceed is now we have to go further from this castle. Having already destroyed the complicated and well-established communication system of ego's network as a defensive mechanism, by openness, by spacious quality. When you open yourself, ourselves, into situation of open space quality, that is not looking at space but dissolving ourselves altogether into the space. That is to say, that nondualistic state -- in other word, the opposite of this watchfulness. Not discriminating, not watching our experience as new discovery and a profound discovery as such, but we become that. So there's no one to watch and no one to commentate, no one to be experiencing, as such, because you become part of the experience. You dissolve yourself within oneness. In other word, this kind of leap takes place not only the leap itself but not having conceptualized idea of where you're leaping from. So it's just you discover that you are leaping as though the carpet is pulled under your feet. You have nowhere to leap from, but you're already midst of space already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=414.0,534.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the next stage of ego is a tremendous fortress of castle is the ministerial level. And if we look into ordinary imagery pattern of ministers including the prime minister, that the situation and their state of being is very proper and very solemn, sober, and confident, completely ingrained in diplomacy. In other word, hypocrisy. [laughter; laughs] They are perfect actors. Their personal problems of relationship to their wives and their financial situations, anything, doesn't pay at all to its duty. When he sits on his office desk and conduct his work, everything's done very coolly and very precisely, very diplomatically. Has tremendous control, tremendous... almost one could say equilibrium.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=534.0,633.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So how we going to now deal with these people?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I think there's an allegiance we have to consider--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You need to silence them somehow.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They do, but they need something more sparkling than silence.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Through spontaneity, maybe. They couldn't think and plan everything. But having spontaneously, they couldn't push their hypocrisy out because it wouldn't be planned. It would just sort of happen. I think all their phoniness would fall away.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, it's a spontaneous action. But there's some kind of click had happen already, as we be talking yesterday. Something clicks. What is the energy of spontaneity, the really living energy of spontaneity, expression of spontaneity? That's what we are looking.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Sense of humor.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughs] Any more suggestions? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Staying in the here and now.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Huh?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Staying in the here and now.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, but...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Nonthought?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Nonthought?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Possibility.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: The natural intelligence is the-- what sparks the discontinuity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Natural intelligence of...? I mean, you have to provide kind of contrast.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Direct vision?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Of? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Intuition, intelligence.\r\n\r\n\r\nAL FISHER: An unshakeable balance of control. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They have it almost already. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Zigzag.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: You can put them into a kind of a logical double bind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Huh?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Zigzag.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Zig?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Zigzag.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's pretty good. [laughs] Somebody say something?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: You could put him into a kind of a logical bind that it like-- a bind that the logical quality of a prime minister couldn't answer, and he'd sort of burn himself out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=633.0,789.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, the energy. So what kind of energy?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Absurd?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Absurd energy.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What-- how would you manufacture? How would you present it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well... create something for the prime minister that's, you know, absolutely *ridiculous* and just proportion it into a totally new role. He'd come out, like, you know, he'd be shocked.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. That's good.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: To awaken.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very close.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Sex? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That sound a bit solemn. [laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Introduce irrationality [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Rational?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: *Ir*rational.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, but there should be some energy. I mean, shouldn't be a very philosophical thing at all. It should be something that you *do*, actually.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Meditate?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That be throughout all the time, practically. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Posing a ridiculous riddle?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Posing a ridiculous riddle. Oh, then he'd have to answer and couldn't.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But there had to be a sort of spark.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Conceptualization?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Conceptualization? You are working with the prime minister. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Contradiction?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Of what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Had to be specific, you see. \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Oh.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: [INAUDIBLE] himself. Pit two ministers against each other. Put a contradiction up-- set a contradiction up in the cabinet as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's same thing as like the suggestion made yesterday about infiltration with the guards. But, in order to do that, you have to speak their language partly. So then you find yourselves involve as one of them, before you know where you are, so to speak. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Oh, I see.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Is there a court jester whose advice would be taken instead of the prime minister?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. It's just a confrontation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=789.0,961.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Is the prime minister the concept of salvation? Could you deal with the energy of that [UNCLEAR: wantment?] and do away with concepts?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He is himself embodiment of concepts, because he's very much conscious of the image, appearance. And every word he speaks is being recorded or broadcasted. Every [UNCLEAR: signatory?] needs his-- becomes a public thing. So he regard himself as an impression of the state. So therefore he's the conceptualization, concept.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Play some music?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What kind of music? Have to be specific.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Yeah. A different rhythm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What kind?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Blues?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Rock n' Roll.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Something he's not used to.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's getting pretty close, but--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Tickle him. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughs] That's good. [laughs; laughter] But would you get near enough to do that?\r\n\r\n\r\nAL FISHER: Could it be a contradiction of policy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Extreme. Yeah, extremely. Contradiction of the whole ground.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: In other words, you'd be using humor?\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident] [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Nondiscrimination?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=961.0,1097.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK DISCUSSION PART 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But there had to be energy rather than another kind of concept, you see.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: It's spontaneous energy.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Spontaneous and sparkling energy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: And laughter.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: You could become a whirling dervish for a few days.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why for a few days?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Tap him out. [laughter] What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why for few days?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Until they were just sort of driven out of their trees. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Perhaps a sudden earthquake which would devour him would ramp right underneath him.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think-- I don't think we could expect any miracles at all. It has to be manual.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: It's illumination.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Of what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Your mind. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Whose mind? There's no mind in this case. There's the intelligence and confusion. [laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=1097.0,1172.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Conflict of rationalization.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It should be-- it should not be heavy-handed. [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Well, if it would be possible maybe for the prime minister to see himself without his robes on. Or would he find that part of [INAUDIBLE]? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very close. It's very good one. [laughs] That's good.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Well you said something about the kind of music, and I was thinking about some kind of savage music that would get him all excited, and he would not be able to hold onto his staid role.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, he might be already familiar with establishing his kingdom, and he had to deal with natives as well. [laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Through his various intermediaries.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Couldn't you just call the sky green instead of blue? I mean, you know, just call the tree a house, and call a house a cow. Wouldn't that just screw it up? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He probably think you're idiot. [laughs; laughter; chatter] Because he knows his world very well. He lived world-- in a world. He dealed with life. He dealt with all the affairs of problems and everything. And I'm sure that will be quite a lot of scopes for him, and probably they will have loony bin in the kingdom as well. And they're [laughing] quite familiar with the hallucinations of any kind. [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=1172.0,1309.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: I have a feeling that it hasn't-- that they have to be replaced by something. That something has to take their place.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, that's the whole point. It's entirely different way of looking at the situation. I mean, once you go through the guards, you don't put your guards. You just walk through, walk on. Because this kind of way of working with the intelligence alone, absence of ego is a noncentralized thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: Well, but--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Doesn't require any authorities.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: But it-- they could be replaced. The concepts could be replaced without the ego replacing them. With-- they could be replaced by the ongoing energetic process.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's pointless. It's pointless. Every spark of intelligence is in itself unique. And it has its own structure. So you don't have put-- have to put a massive scale of anything at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=1309.0,1392.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: Seems that-- it seems like if you-- seems like in order to be diplomatic there first has to be some kind of a disagreement or a conflict. And if you just consented -- I don't know if that's the right word -- if you consented to anything that he would come with, he would eventually run himself-- just run himself out, you know. He would just-- his karmic-- he would karmic-- he would like karmically run mostly his own self out. And you would just be-- you know, and there it would be. It would be, he'd just run out. Then you'd have to-- you would have to-- then you'd--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, but somehow you have to introduce positive action.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: Well, it would just be non-resistance.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How are we going to do that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: I mean, it would just be non-resistance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=1392.0,1436.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: What you said, at this point, that you had come to the defenses of the guards and he ran ragged and dirty. You could just act like you had a right to be here and invite him to tea, and that could blow his mind. [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't have to actually invite him or do anything with him at all. Just your presence would be enough. Your ragged and dirty, muddy appearance coming to his very neat [laughter] office. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: If you immediately execute him. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Him or you?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: No, you! You don't think.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, but it's so overwhelming. That whole fringe has been gone already. He hasn't gotten the power to execute. You have to face it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=1436.0,1497.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: TALK PART TWO]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think we better... get to the subject. [laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=1497.0,1513.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Several people have already suggest a thing, which is a sense of humor. And well said. [laughs] And the idea is, you see, when there is-- the basically, the spontaneity is important. That's also been suggested. This is one of the key point of spontaneity, but which will be obviously automatic nature of state of being. That if you just confronted with generals of impulse by openness, meditation, and there will be an automatic reaction going onto it, spontaneity, spontaneous. But that spontaneity has to have some kind of energy which sparks out the sparkling quality of energy of spontaneous. Is sense of humor, which is extremely powerful thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=1513.0,1586.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It isn't just purely laughing at the prime minister, but it's the-- should-- a real demonstration of irony. That such well wrapped, well-bounded structure of his function and his administration and diplomacy and everything is very much based on direct action rather than spontaneous one. It's very carefully done. Everything's done deliberately. Everything's planned, and there's always blueprint, and then there's always people to work for the prime minister to study the blueprint and then work its way through. So everything's very deliberate and very stiff and solemn. So just purely creating the contrast of that kind of mentality through something that get entirely unknown to his circle. If he's dealing with the other prime ministers from another country, of course, they try to speak his language as well. And they come solemn and smart and neat as well. So he never seen the world outside of that. All the time there's this deliberate solemness involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=1586.0,1683.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In other word, the epitome of the watching yourself, the self-conscious commentator goes on all the time this level. So therefore, the-- he's imprisoned with the tension of opposite of the spontaneity. Deliberate and careful, paranoid, logical, conceptualized and everything. So sense of humor is the only way to break through the solemness of it. The solemnity. But that sense of humor still needs-- sense of humor is inbuilt kind of spontaneous spark. In other word, the energy of the spontaneity is sense of humor, but still needs another kind of nourishment in order to grow further. Sense of humor could become hysterical sense of humor rather than direct link sense of humor. That is to say, the true spontaneity just sparks up on the right situations but hysterical type of sense of humor becomes more of conscious of being sense of humor. Being in the sense of humor rather than seeing the ironical situation of the moment. So therefore, this sense of humor need a further strength to relate itself with the situations. And that is how we're going to be taken further to the now facing the king himself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=1683.0,1810.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Any suggestions?\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Before you go on, I'd like to ask something. It seems to me as if the idea of developing a sense of humor is almost a contradiction in a sense. It just-- I mean, will it-- does it come in a-- when one is aware of the possibility. I mean, I can't sit down and say, \"Right now I’m going to develop a sense of humor.\" [laughter; chatter] One can do that perhaps. What I mean is that what you said up to then, the idea of creating confusion and even of the openness is *almost* something one can *do*, in a sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Openness is yes. But, you see, when the openness something you can do, but when you reach the openness up to the point of dealing with the...\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Impulse?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Impulse, yes. Impulse, then the active openness doesn't play important part. It should be nondualistic impulse-- I mean nondualistic openness rather. And that nondualistic openness automatically leads you to the next stage, because there's nothing to be solemn, nothing to be careful about it. Solemnity comes from being careful, being watchful of something might happen. When you begin to lose the point of \"this\" opposed to \"that,\" \"I'm experiencing this.\" When you don't regard the experience as something outside you, then you become completely one. And when you-- the next obvious move is, when you see something like the setup of the prime minister, that's very funny, opposed to that openness. Is something very rigid or something very, extremely well-worked and well-planned. That seems to be very ironical. So just delivers into the sense of humor. In other word, there will be tendency to hold back to the open space. And in order to overcome that tendency to holding on to open space, you have to see something sparks you out, which is to see the absurd situations of life. In this case, prime minister which is--\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: But, once again, it’s still passive.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's very much play of energy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=1810.0,1986.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: I can see how, you know, nonaction thwarts paranoia and how nondualism thwarts impulse, but how does sense of humor thwart concepts? I mean, I see how it thwarts, you know, very, you know, established, ordered, very righteous thing. But if the whole meaning of the prime minister is concept, how does sense of humor annihilate concept?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, concept is very much a careful consideration of labeling \"this\" to \"that.\" You can't have just independent concept without relating to something. You have to have a logical mind, highly trained logical mind. Now, if you're going to buy good object from an antique shop, particular antique piece, we-- first of all, we see the it's work of art, and then, secondarily, we will see the how old it is opposed to how young it is. That automatically builds up concept of this piece is valuable, not only old but it's a beautiful work of art as well. So the concept can't remain independent concept, but it have to depend on something, which is dualistic thing. And, when there's duality involved, then there's also fear as well. So, therefore, the sense of humor is spontaneous spark, which doesn't depend on any of these things at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=1986.0,2089.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: Identify more with the space.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The energy of the space and the space as well. You see, sense of humor is often described in the scriptures, in the sacred writings, as joy. The great joy. Which is \"lalitha\" or the \"dance,\" relating the situation, relating with situation. Situation improvise, played like the background of music. And accordance with the music that you dance. So, therefore, it's very much of a energy of the space. It's the sort of vital quality of energy, sparkling quality. Which means health and strength as well, because when someone's extremely joyous, then you also see the person is often healthy as well. Even person physically may not be healthy but mentally you see that he is completely open, and he is full of something, full of joy. So this kind of health is also plays very important part in connecting and dealing with the prime minister and his heavy weight of well-established, conceptualized thing. So sense of humor, therefore, is not something frivolous. It's like a well-built ax with a sharp blade. It has its weight as well as sharp blade. It's a very powerful thing. So next point going to be king. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=2089.0,2220.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: Could it be that the king who you've equated with consciousness is best handled by the void? In other words, the king has authority, because people think he has authority. But the prime minister is gone, the general is gone, the guards are gone. He's cut off. He's up there. And then he falls down, because there's no one he can give orders to. There's no one that now views him as the king. There's just a void. And then he--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, well that's the whole point. But would he be-- how would you inspire him to give up his own ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: There's nothing to sustain it any longer. The whole--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But he will still think he's a king, or he *was* king. And he's still trying to be dignified as much as possible, until he's been executed. Even he might attempt to give a speech before he's been executed. [laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: It’s best you’re indifferent to him.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: Indifference. Then you-- he hasn't-- if he gave a speech and nobody listened to him, he’d feel very hurt and so his ego-- [INAUDIBLE] ego loss, because that's what he's used to.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, he'll think it's historical thing. [laughter] It doesn't matter if people ignored it on the spot, but it will put him in historical book. \"Such and such a king was executed, and he said so and so before he died.\" It's such, such strong ego, such strong authority, really seeps right to the back of his bone, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=2220.0,2331.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: Perhaps making him aware of how temporary he is and, you know, if he knew beforehand that no one's going to write down what he's going to say, that his life was insignificant at that point, then he wouldn't be in such a big ego trip. Because, you know, he would know it would make no difference, you know. It's like [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well unfortunately, he's not really swinging person anyway. [laughter laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=2331.0,2360.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nAL FISHER: The second time he was-- I mean, the prime minister will try his best to hold onto his job. Alright, he'll look to the policy of what the gods and what the public, what's-- what he feels will be the \"in\" thing at that time. Now he will try to take that force and bring the force on more and more and stronger and stronger. He don't care what kind of a force it is. No matter how we look at it. And he'll try to keep his job, and he'll stress that force, for all it's worth. And he don't care. Whatever, he'll prey upon the people or that holds his job. Now could we offset that within ourselves, to offset that force which keeps building itself up?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're talking about the prime minister?\r\n\r\n\r\nAL FISHER: Oh, strictly on the prime minister. He wants to hold onto-- [laughter] he wants to hold onto *his* job.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, of course.\r\n\r\n\r\nAL FISHER: Or-- Yeah. Now that force is also being built up. \"Let's give the public what they want.\" Now we have to offset that, because we're only going around on the merry-go-round. Now-- [laughter] now comes the sense of humor. [laughter] Could we offset that he's trying to fight to hold on to his job? Could we offset it with the irony of the facts and put that pervasion in with the sense of humor? Could it be done? That's the question. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=2360.0,2504.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] that we've already got rid of the prime minister. [laughter] And we made a fool out of the prime minister. And we said to him, \"Looky here, what are you doing? Ain't this a foolish job you got? No reality [INAUDIBLE WORDS]. It's all nonsense. What do you want to stay here for?\" And you made a fool out of him, so the poor fellow just quit. [laughter] Is that right? All we've got to do is get rid of the king, and then we're through. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughing] Oh, are we?\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: I mean, if the king came to me, and said, \"What a fool you are to do this--\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm not so sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: No?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: After Al’s question, I'm not so sure. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: You mean, if the king called me a fool, I'd still stay on? Oh dear. [laughter] That would be awful.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm not so sure whether we have guards there already.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Guards?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Oh, I thought we got rid of them. I thought we got rid of the guards yesterday.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm not so sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nKUNGA DAWA RICHARD ARTHURE: Prime minister’s private body guard would still be there, most of them. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Well, why can't you go the guards and make fools out of them? [laughter] And say, \"What are you doing guarding, and what do you think you’re guarding anyway? What is it? Nothing here anymore. It's all gone, what are you doing?\" And then the guards, well, I should think they'd get so humiliated, they'd have to leave.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you think so?\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Well, I think *I* would, if I were the guards and somebody says, \"I'm not going to pay any more money.\" I'd have to quit anyway. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=2504.0,2615.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [to Kunga Dawa] What would you say to Al's question? [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nKUNGA DAWA RICHARD ARTHURE: In answer to Al's question?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nKUNGA DAWA RICHARD ARTHURE: Well, [laughing] I'm not quite sure what's the question. [laughter; laughs] The prime minister would like to still stay on?\r\n\r\n\r\nAL FISHER: Yeah, right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nKUNGA DAWA RICHARD ARTHURE: [UNCLEAR: Even after they get a  feel of him?] [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean, would he able to communicate with the sense of humor all that? Makes whole differences, of such strong determination that he have, such dedication that he have.\r\n\r\n\r\nKUNGA DAWA RICHARD ARTHURE: I'm not sure, because the sense of humor might work instantaneously one time. But he might creep back again afterwards. Might be only temporary thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's based on the weight of the sense of humor as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nKUNGA DAWA RICHARD ARTHURE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not the wittiness quality, but it's the background quality of the sense of humor.\r\n\r\n\r\nKUNGA DAWA RICHARD ARTHURE: It depends on very much the quality of sense of humor. Because if the sense of humor might present something ironical which prime minister in a sense might just enjoy, and convert to his way of thinking, and label that and enjoy. But if the sense of humor is such that the heaviness of a prime minister is dissolved, or is rather seen to be-- seen in relation to the sort of space, the background of energy and space, then it's-- so nothing really to hold onto from the point of view of the concept or the label anymore. And so, and if it's like clear and sharp, it should work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=2615.0,2757.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: I think it does-- I think that's what Al explained is what does happen, maybe. I mean, where does the prime minister go? I mean, what happens to his energy, the energy of the prime minister? What-- does the energy just disappear, or does maybe the prime minister actually identify with a sense of humor in the end and then his-- that's where his energy is now.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Would you say--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: Is the position that the prime minister's energy is now a sense of humor?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, the whole point is the, like, the guards as well and this could apply to them as well as the generals. And you remember originally at the beginning, when there's room created for prime minister and room created for king, then king disappeared. Because of his-- because of the room, because of the... what was it? The thing between impulse and ego, impulse and ignorance.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Paranoia.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It wasn’t paranoia. Something else?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: Fascination?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Fascination, yes. The fascination create the room. And automatically, when the room is prepared, the people appeared. Since we are not talking literally as [laughing] people, prime ministers, generals, as people as such, the situation create-- produce themselves there. So once the right kind of energy is flashed onto a situation, then whole thing dissolves. The energy dissolves into the energy that is invading the castle automatically. And that's what the energy of the so-called buddhas, bodhisattvas. You see, originally there is no such thing as buddhas at all, or awakened ones at all, enlightened beings at all, because idea doesn't apply anymore. There's no one confused, therefore there's no question of awake anymore. But once confusion started, the awake begin to as well. That's why the energy dissolves into the awake, this case. But getting back to sense of humor, that I think we have to really look into the *weight* of the sense of humor as well as the sharpness. Like, as I said, like sharp-bladed ax.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=2757.0,2928.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: Al kind of sensitized me to a dimension of the humor problem, that is the two edges to it. It strikes me that one is the liberating effect of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One is?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: Liberating effect of the humor. But the other is the terrifying part of it that is-- and it's very-- I'm not clear as to what the humor would have to do to push the weight towards the liberating part. To dissolve it, rather than to put-- to tighten up even more.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER38: And doesn't it transform? I mean, the way that the humor of the situation itself is transformed, so it's no longer a question [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Heavy-handed. Doesn't apply him in a heavy-handed one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER38: Yeah. I mean, that the danger, you know, in the sense of danger, whatever you're talking about. Because it actually just transforms the situation. It is then...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you mean, the terrifying aspect?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER38: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you elaborate on it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: Well, I felt that Al was coming at-- he was-- and it was to personalize it, was defending that, refuse to let go in a way. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's good.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: You were really, you know, still holding on, and [INAUDIBLE]. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAL FISHER: And the prime minister will *fight*. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: I’m sure of that now.\r\n\r\n\r\nAL FISHER: He'd want to keep his job.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: Well, if you refuse to take him seriously, what can he do? Can he call the guards? They're gone.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER41: No, because he's in with the guards.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER42: But then you start the [INAUDIBLE WORDS]. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it's...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=2928.0,3028.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER43: Isn't– excuse me, isn’t the problem mainly penetrating the castle? Not, you know, annihilating the castle. But while you're penetrating it, you can't annihilate it, because it's-- you couldn't have anything to penetrate. I mean, you got to get to the king and the head, in order to annihilate it. But each step before that is penetration, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It is, yes. Seems to be.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER43: So once the sharp-witted sense of humor worked, you'd be through the gate and gone. You know, the prime minister can look around and say, \"What did I do?\", you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, they-- it seems that building is disappeared as well people, as we get through it more and more. [laughter] I mean, each time the-- when they're confronted with another authority like prime minister, then that's the really front door, so to speak. It's because we be creating more space and things be dissolving into its original nature, whatever it's may be.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER44: Then, if once we confront the prime minister, and even if for a moment we overcome him with the irony, therefore his whole headquarters are dissolved.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All dissolved--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER44: They're dissolved and cannot return. They can't return.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=3028.0,3102.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER43: Can he return? I felt that Al returned. [laughter] In other words--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughing] He did.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER43: --there was a decree, and then there was reflection on what had happened and then sort of an attempt to refill that gap.\r\n\r\n\r\nAL FISHER: That's right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, it could return.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: He wouldn't want to return, he'd been laughed at so much already, I would think. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It could return as-- if it's only-- it depends-- in depending... what you call? If you are too much dependent on the sharpness alone, rather than its weight of each situation. Like the-- even at the beginning, if you regard that the first meeting point, sharpness as a trick. Not regarded as something carries weight behind it, which means you haven't actually got the heart properly. So there's no possibilities of being all-pervading. In other word, one have to bring the all-pervading quality in connect with a sense of humor as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER45: Would the weight be the truth?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, truth of what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER45: I mean, just truth itself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I should think so, yes. It's the \"what is.\" What is, without regarding as knowledge, as external knowledge. But complete involvement -- what *is*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=3102.0,3215.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: Yesterday we experienced a little thing here, which I'm very well used to it, what you're trying to say. But perhaps not only me but some other people here felt that there's a certain song to the set up you know, meditation, with seriousness, you know. And here we go all of a sudden [sound of snapping fingers] there's a couple of guys who start playing the harmonica, you know. And it was utterly spontaneous, and it was illogical, but somehow, you know, it made sense. And that it was humorous, really. Let's not be so serious about-- let's not take the whole thing so, you know-- essentially, let's give it a sense of humor and joy. So it was very spontaneous and it was good. It all felt very good. [laughs] There were a few among us. So I feel this tells the story, not that with humor and joy can overcome and dissolve this structured, sort of, you know, conceptual thinking sometimes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think humor-- as I said, sense of humor is explained as joy. I think, which is not to say. A sense of humor has a characteristic of its own.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: It's gaiety, it's laughter. It's joyful. It has these elements of joy, humor, as opposite to, you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Solemness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: Seriousness, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The whole area is permeated with that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: I mean, that's [INAUDIBLE WORDS]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That is the prime minister's room. [laughter; laughs] Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=3215.0,3325.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But we have to find out the weight. Anyone got suggestions about the weight? What is the-- what comes behind the sharp blade of ax? What was it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER47: Intelligence.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: The truth.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER48: Perspective. Seeing it in a broader perspective?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well... [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER49: It's reality.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Huh?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER49: It's reality of what's happening. Then it becomes suddenly very real, you know, the humor thing--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that seems more likely the blade.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER50: The open wisdom.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm, it's part of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER51: Freedom?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER52: Nondualistic, maybe?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, that's it. Who said that? [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=3325.0,3385.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: TALK PART 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's the nonduality, which is really powerful thought, you see. Because generally, in our ordinary way of looking at a situation, we have always, as I've already said I'm sure hundreds of times in the past, it's a defending process. Exerting our energy to make sure that we have the energy, we have energy to control, we have the energy to destroy. And once we have destroyed, we feel grateful that we have proved something, that we have the energy. And that is already, it's a very weak gesture. How powerful it may be but still have to be proofed, still have to crush down something, which is duality of dealing \"this\" opposed to \"that.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=3385.0,3446.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the nonduality comes. It doesn't fight anymore at all. It doesn't regard \"this\" opposed to \"that.\" The energy just happens *there*. It doesn't have to be proved as heroic or powerful or anything at all. So now the idea of power completely goes away, but you are become-- you are *in* the power, you become one with the power. Like same thing as the truth, that you become one with the truth, so you don't think in terms of trying to prove your logical truth or conceptualize the truth or discovering truth as a separate external thing as such.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=3446.0,3480.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So whole thing becomes a very, very all-pervading. That's why the idea of all-pervading quality, which is be so much-- so many times has been said in sacred writings of the all-pervading quality, all-present, all-pervading quality is because it is all-pervading. It is nothing to regard it as \"this\" opposed to \"that.\" It's all one, completely involved into one. So therefore the-- once you have established this basic space as all-pervading quality at the background, and then when it simple and complicated situations like seeing the headquarter of prime minister appears in this all-pervading spacious panoramic view, then it's very ironical. And one don't feel defeated by it anymore at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=3480.0,3548.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it's such extreme powerful, terrifying thought, to be in complete openness. That is why it has been said in the scriptures that when Buddha taught the teachings of shunyata or the emptiness, a lot of his disciples, arhats, died of heart attack. [laughter; laughs] Hearing such idea as suspending in the air, suspending in a open space. And that's such powerful thought. It could resist anyone, [laughing] let alone the prime ministers, or the ministers whatever they may be. And not only the weight, you don't crush them down with the weight, but you have to communicate. We have to split their heart, you have to insert into their body. Therefore, it is the imagery of ax with a sharp blade. The sense of humor is the opening, like getting through it, slitting through their suit of armor or whatever it's may be, as well as their skin, tough skin. [laughs] Sound a bit morbid, but it's-- [laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER53: [INAUDIBLE] humor of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's fact. It's funny. [laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=3548.0,3636.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER54: Is it kind of like the book by Erich Fromm in which he talks about the \"escape from freedom\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, did--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER54: I mean, in that people are afraid of freedom and open space. You know, the book by Erich Fromm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which book was it? Do you know?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER54: ESCAPE FROM FREEDOM or...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: ESCAPE FROM FREEDOM. Yeah, I read that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER54: I mean, in other words, it's very terrifying to be free.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes! You see, that's the point. Yes!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER54: And that there's not that there's not any structure there then.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER55: It's a feeling of vulnerability and exposure, let's say.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, it's a very powerful thing. Extremely powerful and horrific.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER56: Nakedness.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. So we must get on with next thing. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER56: It's too cold.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Too cold?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER56: To be naked.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughing] Yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER57: I'm confused about one thing--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Had to put on some [INAUDIBLE]. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=3636.0,3709.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER57: --going back, about-- thinking about spontaneity and thinking about impulse. Because impulse, I don't-- I'm not clear on the difference of the impulse-- where the instinctive action and the spontaneous reaction.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Difference between the impulse and spontaneity. The impulse seems to be... [whispering] What is it? [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Could it be that impulse comes from [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER57: Is it the defense of the general?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER57: The defense of the general. Defense.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I know but... Trying to work on one's sense of impatience, frantic quality of looking for another source of security. Impulse has the quality of neurosis, in other word. That's why it's paranoia. The impulse feels every moment is important, and therefore every moment is a matter of life and death. So we must run, trying to use that moment as part of its way of surviving, another alternative way of surviving.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd the spontaneity also sees the same quality as impulse, in the sense of looking for the situations, but it doesn't feel paranoid about it. Just happens along. So therefore the impulse feels very much of threatened by spontaneity and openness, natural-- it seems to be much closer to the relationship between man and nature. The man is being the impulse and nature is being the spontaneity. You can see the image of a man trying to run away from earthquake. Impulsively, he just run, run, run. Look right and left and back around. But earthquake just slides down, very slowly but very powerfully. It's kind of spontaneously-- spontaneously just happens. Spontaneous very much close to the \"what is\". Impulse is very much closer to trying to change situations, of paranoia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=3709.0,3966.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nKUNGA DAWA RICHARD ARTHURE: Well, the impulse is a kind of a defense mechanism.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Defense mechanism--\r\n\r\n\r\nKUNGA DAWA RICHARD ARTHURE: Spontaneousness is going with what is.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Like landslide just comes down whenever there is a situation to roll down rocks. or whatever is may be.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER58: Doesn't impulse always refer back to central headquarters, while spontaneity is just sort of in space [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, the impulse always refer back all the time. So it takes time, therefore, and it feels terribly suspended in those waiting moments. Which sparks up more frantic neurotic mechanism within oneself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER59: Is there any time-lapse between developing the spontaneity and, you know, like, stopping with the impulse?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Stopping?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER59: Well, it's like-- it's kind of like they're two sides of the same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Impulse and spontaneity?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER59: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER59: So how do you, you know, get from impulse *to* spontaneity? You know, isn't there-- like there wouldn't be any space in between. One minute it's like impulse, and the next minute it's spontaneity.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, everything must begin naturally. So there would be, I suppose, kind of a meeting point. First, there's a glimpse of spontaneity and later there will be only glimpse of impulse as you get along more and more. Because somehow they link. They both are working with the situation, but one is working with the situation in paranoid way. The other one's working with situation of its spontaneous quality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo therefore in a sense, impulse is kind of a spontaneous action of its own type. As well as spontaneous could be said a sort of impulse action of its kind. [laughs] But I don't think there's a particular trick or magic how to switch from one point to another. Except one have to see that there's no ground to work with. The paranoia he has no route, and paranoia is just your own fantasy. You have to see the-- face the fact. Once you-- once the message has gone through your mechanism, so to speak, then one begin to question about the paranoia, rather than the consequence of the paranoia.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd once there's this kind of confusion is being said, like the first invading of the castle on this confusions be set in terms of whether paranoia does exist or not. And they're not going to get closer to the spontaneity. Which could be said also in terms of meditation experience, I think, alone, because meditation experience really doing it rather than philosophically or ideally sort of telling yourself. Because in the meditative state, one begin to realize that you can afford to open yourselves. You don't have to secure yourself anymore. Even few seconds of flashing into meditation demonstrates that you can afford to just let go for a few seconds not defending yourself, which is very beautiful illustration.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER60: Long live the king. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER61: Off with his clothes. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=3966.0,4237.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER62: We have to meet the king. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Shall we? [laughter] Let's. [laughter; laughs] What are we going to do?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER63: Wouldn't you have to meet him with friendship? I mean, you know, friendly spirit?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, of course. Poor little thing. [laughter; laughs] It's not fair. [laughter; laughs] What way, what kind of gesture, what practical gesture? You see, it's much easier to think terms of theoretically what we could do, but you have to translate that in terms of practical gesture.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER64: You could take off his crown and turn it over and turn it into a meditation stool. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't mean as literal as that. [laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER65: You could give him a small kingdom in which he could do whatever he wanted, and passively appease him in that way, and he wouldn't oppose you anymore.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's doing disservice to him, rather than service. Because you're encouraging his own little scene going on. Which is reduced into a small scene, little scene.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER62: Let him sit on the throne but take away all the powers from him. He just surrender--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But he have to-- he have to actually give, he have to actually surrender.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER66: If you can expose him somehow to a much vaster scene so he could somehow see beyond the smallness of the situation. And some sort-- I don't know how, but some sort of like a flash of insight, or some sort of flash of wisdom. Then it wouldn't be like a sacrifice for him to give anything. He'd want to, because he would have-- suddenly he’d have vision, he would see.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there again, he's not a swinging king. [laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER67: He must be frightened by now, because almost everything is gone.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, that makes him more stiff and more defensive.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER68: I’d think that you would want to show him, somehow, by interacting with him, that your lifestyle of happiness and joy and freedom is much better than his ego power play for power and wealth, things like that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER69: Mmm. That is true.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER68: In other words, you've got to present yourself in such a way that he can see that he's not where it's at. And then he will be converted automatically.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that seems to be--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER69: Not automatically.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER68: No?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That seems to be the... After the first click, there have to be sudden click of some kind.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER70: Oh, isn't the fact that just you're there, and you've gotten rid of the guards, and the prime minister and everybody, kind of a challenge to his authority?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER70: Just the fact that you're there and you've gotten through everybody else, and you know, he can't get rid of you. Isn't that kind of an affront [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there's nothing inspiring exactly. It's very dull and disappointing, grim. And the more he see the grimness, he's going to become more violent.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER69: Pounce upon him and choke him. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE] You see, the idea was that-- Do you remember, the way we left with the prime minister is that this sharp, penetrating blade of sense of humor have to be extended in further terms of opening, further extension of opening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=4237.0,4542.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 27]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is king used to?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER71: Being catered.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER71: Being catered or--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER72: Power.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER71: --to rule.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Yes! Yes!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER71: Having dug in, growing constantly. So what if you sort of throw him out with a surge of free energy. And manifesting free energy and eradicate it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How would you do that in practically?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER71: By identifying with the space.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER71: By-- constantly points of friction, points... Or using the free energy, identifying more with the space, not fighting, not resisting. Allowing the energy to sweep through or break down ego, break down the king.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But what you do in terms of ritual?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER71: Oh, I see. Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER72: Bow down.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER71: Stillness.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Still what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER71: Stilling the process, the ego's process. You have to bring it to-- you have to pacify it, you have to not fight it. Slow it down. Still it, and allow the free primal energy to eradicate. Not have the king in power, not looking-- trying to cater to the king, but have his energy come through, identify more with the space.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=4542.0,4646.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 28]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER73: You convince the king that he's been a prisoner in the castle of the ego, and offer him the serenity of the void?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, he's prepared to reject anything, because he realize he lost everything now. He's prepared to attack, prepared to do anything. So there have to be some outstanding gestures to make him come out of his thick wall around him. Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nAL FISHER: Could-- [laughs; laughter] Could-- maybe it's the penetration of the meditation to the subconscious to try and get around.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But how do you going to demonstrate that?\r\n\r\n\r\nAL FISHER: The only way *I* can think of is just straight meditation. I don't see any--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sit front of him and you begin to meditate?\r\n\r\n\r\nAL FISHER: No, I'd sit *miles away* and [INAUDIBLE]. [laughter; Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER74: Would it begin by acknowledging him and his power?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It would, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER74: It'd probably flatter him a little bit.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm, I wouldn't go as far as that, but... [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER75: That's what he's used to though.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER74: But at least acknowledge him and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Acknowledge him, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER75: Would you treat him as you would treat other friends, as an equal. And fulfill his needs as you would fill your-- fulfill your other friends' needs.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if he's willing to open.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER75: But he's not yet, is he?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He's not ready yet. He's very uptight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=4646.0,4772.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 29]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER76: Why don't we give him a present? [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What shall we give him?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER76: Give him a crystal ball with a picture of him as a baby inside. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He'd be flattered.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER76: Flattered?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER76: Phew! If I saw that, I'd... [laughter] [UNCLEAR: I'd fall out?]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER77: The king has to bow down.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER78: Maybe put a picture of him like that as a corpse. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER77: Send him a *big* [INAUDIBLE]. [laughter; Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER79: I’d give him a bottle of scotch [INAUDIBLE WORDS]. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What was it? [laughter] What did you say Catherine?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER77: I'd get him a couple big boxes, one with a skunk in it, one with a porcupine in it. [laughter] Fran had some other presents too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=4772.0,4848.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 30]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER80: How about spacing out? There could be space.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There have to be, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER80: He has-- you have to get him-- you have to identify with that space.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You have to, yeah. That still continues.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: The king is the one who always knows, isn't he? Knows. So--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He's the consciousness.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Consciousness, so--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: --if one could create some doubt in him.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very closer, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER81: He just wanted--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER82: By bowing to the king?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER81: You just let him do whatever he wants to, and you explore where he's leading you. And if you go deep enough, you explore deep enough, he's going to get exposed, and he's going to wonder what he's doing himself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But *you* might understand him, but how about *him*?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER81: Well, at least you're making an effort yourself. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Huh?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER81: You make him see himself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very difficult thing to do to people like that. Extremely. They have their own interpretations of themselves. Everything's very neatly fitted in their category.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER81: He's going to turn to his spiritual advisor.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He is indeed. He going to do it if you don't act quickly. [laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=4848.0,4943.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 31]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER83: Could you terrify him somehow?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That would be very difficult to scare a king. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER83: He has no-- he's already open.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He's not.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER83: Hasn't his consciousness experienced nonduality and lack of-- hasn't he experienced the open space as consciousness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He hasn't.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER83: He hasn't at all?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He hasn't do any-- he's just operating his consciousness, flashing on and off.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER84: Yeah, but I would think when he's just confronted with consciousness, is confronted with this all-space, this nonduality, that that would automatically dissolve into it, if it's, you know, sort of surrounded by it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If he's drunk, maybe. But he'd be very alert. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER85: Could you confront him with compassion and warmth? That would be something that maybe he wouldn't have a defense against. And that would be what his spiritual advisor would offer him. He'd be offering it to him, but he wouldn't be expecting you to be [INAUDIBLE WORDS].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=4943.0,5039.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 32]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Can't the intelligence tell the king that he no more exists? In other words, the intelligence tells the consciousness that there is no king. No such thing. And then the king has to go. There's no king anymore.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: King has to go.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Well, if he doesn't exist, then he isn't there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So he doesn't have to go. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER86: You could watch him until he gets [INAUDIBLE]. You sit and watch him long enough he'll get tired of flashing his lights on and off.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But he's done that for a long, long time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER86: Can't you give him something to flash his light on? [laughter] You know, I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's not external light. It's his own consciousness--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER86: I mean, his awareness or whatever, the conscious--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, he's been doing that for a long time. He become by now professional. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER87: So we have to make an opening in the consciousness, is that right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Some kind of gesture of openness. People be already suggested in the question-- in answer, rather. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER88: Put him in retreat for two months. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Then he comes back afterwards [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER89: Give him an acid trip.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He'd be terrified of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=5039.0,5136.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: TALK PART 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think question has been already answered. And it seems to be this consciousness. Up to this point the king has been communicating, reflecting his consciousness to his subject and to other people, the prime ministers and other people around him, which is very solid object. But there is a last chance for him to open his consciousness and communicate properly. But that wouldn't be enough. There's still the tendency of being king is back of his mind all the time. And only way to do that, make him bow, make him surrender, like what happens in also in a certain practice of meditation. That stage that you meditate at the beginning and provide the basic ground of sanity, and then you also-- some stage you learn to open, learn to surrender, which is the first meeting of guru. And such gesture of surrendering is being made by like prostrations and openness, complete openness. It's the sort of humility that is needed in this case. So, in order to bring him-- inspire the king to bow down, is to create the greater spiritual consciousness, so to speak of, which is the nondualistic open space where his consciousness could only reflect to openness. Which you realize-- begin to realize-- it begin to become such revelation as far as the king concerned, because he's only used to reflecting out onto these very heavy, strong, paranoid situations alone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=5136.0,5280.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And for the first time that he met this thing, which is very interesting thing about-- in life of Buddha, that he was in a sense exactly the same situation actually as this king was, before he became Buddha. And he went this historical outing, traveling around in the city, and he saw suffering. He saw birth, death, illness, old age. And last of all he saw the sage, this particular sage, walking in the street. And suddenly he realized there's some kind of another dimension where communication could take place, and suddenly awakened by this whole inspiration of seeing such unusual people to communicate. It's not-- he's-- the sage is not like his father or mother or anyone in his kingdom, in the palace. But something *quite* open person, something quite different. And this sage is being called by the name of \"rishi\" or \"maharishi.\" And \"maha\" means \"great,\" \"rishi\" means \"straightforward\" or in other word \"honest.\" Openness in other word. Completely honest rishi, straightforward or openness, completely honest person. Completely whole being or completely healthy person, which is open as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=5280.0,5374.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, there could be a person just frivolously being open, but not being *healthy* person. But being healthy is one, and being open is another, is such greater luxury. And this maharishi was a wonderful discovery, revelation to Buddha, in his case, of meeting this person. And that inspired him to go to the jungle and meditate and attain enlightenment. Which is same thing in this case of the king. You have to provide this straightforward openness, because of sense of humor has created such-- has really softened the whole atmosphere of the castle altogether. In other word, it's the sense of humor has created ventilation throughout his castle of king. It's-- this palace is not anymore stuffy. And the inspiration is brought by this openness and completely majestic, greater majestic person than king himself. That he should bow down and open himself to it. Which could be said in terms of relationship of guru, in first discovery of guru, in this case.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=5374.0,5457.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 33]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER90: Isn’t there a difference here, because in the case of the Buddha, he was searching for someone, whereas this king, to the contrary, is avoiding anything like that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think case of Buddha that he had already given up his generals and his prime minister already. He had already given up the idea of holding his position. In the case of this person, that we have to operate him painfully. [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=5457.0,5501.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80080/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Next thing is spiritual advisor. [laughter; laughs] Perhaps we should leave there, have some fun tomorrow. [laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, I really would very much like you to work on all these process. And it's not sudden change of situation, but it's a very much evolutionary process right from the beginning of the attack, on the process of the attack, until we get to the king. It's very, very important to see the gradual pattern, like the relationship to a sense of humor in connection with openness, communication, or compassionate communication. And perhaps we should have some more discussions the other part of the seminar as well. That it would be good that if we could work together, rather than just me giving talk, which is rather monotonous. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\n[unknown gesture or incident] [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=5501.0,5643.62444"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80081","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19701228VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80081/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=0.65,4.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80081/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar entitled Battle of Ego\nheld at Tail\nof the Tiger, Vermont.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=4.67,9.38"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80081/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk four,\ngiven on December 28th, 1970.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=9.38,14.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80081/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital remaster\nmade October 2005.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=14.13,20.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80081/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Continuing\nthe problem, so to speak,\n[laughs] that,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=20.14,33.595"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80081/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"perhaps, we should look back\nwhat we said yesterday.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486#t=41.64,50.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148900/file/273486/transcript/80081/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The heavy of overcoming ego,\nthis 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