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Begins with Trung Ma-se in 14th century in eastern Tibet. He studies with the Fifth Karmapa, and founds a monastery, initially only a reed hut, hence the name \"Surmang.\" Trung Ma-se's closest students are \"the eight mystics and three idiots\", with the first Trungpa being one of the \"idiots.\" They travel around in a \"caravan of joyousness,\" engaging local communities in practice and teachings. In Q\u0026amp;A, defines mishaps as giving rise to clear vision. Ability of a teacher to relate to many students depends on sanghaship -- group sanity transmitted so that access to the teacher does not create a bottleneck.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Mishap Lineage"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: THE MISHAP LINEAGE: Chapter 3: Trung Mase and the Three Idiots\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-mishap-lineage-1048.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDec 24 2021 to Mar 09 2023 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Jessyca Goldstein Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1975"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eOrigins of the Trungpa tulku lineage and Surmang monasteries, both of which became known for focus on meditation practice, simplicity, and devotion. Begins with Trung Ma-se in 14th century in eastern Tibet. He studies with the Fifth Karmapa, and founds a monastery, initially only a reed hut, hence the name \"Surmang.\" Trung Ma-se's closest students are \"the eight mystics and three idiots\", with the first Trungpa being one of the \"idiots.\" They travel around in a \"caravan of joyousness,\" engaging local communities in practice and teachings. In Q\u0026amp;A, defines mishaps as giving rise to clear vision. Ability of a teacher to relate to many students depends on sanghaship -- group sanity transmitted so that access to the teacher does not create a bottleneck.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Line of the Trungpas, held at Karme Choling in Vermont. This is talk number three, December 22nd, 1975. This is an ARP digital remaster made August 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This is the third talk on the Line of the Trungpas, given at Karme Choling in December 1975.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In continuing what we discussed last night, I would like to discuss further the... such people become product of such a tradition and discipline. Which is very interesting. And the reason why that such people become very realistic, and earthbound, and ordinary, at the same time highly awakened, is because there was no preconception exist within the students. And their mind is completely set to the practice, completely. And because not having preconceptions, and their mind is set to the practice, therefore somehow their understanding of the teachings become much clearer, more realistic, in some sense. That if we have a continual interruption and a continual concerned about the state of our sanity, state of our mind, and state of how much trips we are laying on our world or ourselves -- heavy or too much light -- [someone in audience sneezes] and all those little questions might come through. Gesundheit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=30.0,157.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Throughout those particular process of trips, that even the motivation and situation could be right, understanding could be right, but at the same time preconceptions begin to drive us into complete madness. That we would like to split hair, we would like to constantly question of the question of the question of the question of the question, constantly again and again *and* again and again. So we will not find any room to actually allow ourselves to practice and sit, and develop any discipline at all. So because-- in some sense we could say, the simplemindedness of such students, or we could say in some sense uneducated-ness, not having too much vocabulary, might add to some kind of situation. But at the same time, their particular attitude to earthbound quality, which provides lot of room and space, to understand the fullest teaching very precisely, very directly, in the real level, very direct and straightforward level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=157.0,248.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Devotion is emphasized, when devotion is emphasized it become natural devotion, direct devotion, earthbound devotion, opposed to equating with father principle or mother principle, husband principle or wife principle. Or something's based on one's loneliness, or something's based on one's claustrophobia, and devotion becomes very strict, and direct at the same time. Any situation of that begin to occur in the learning process, that everything becomes straightforward rather than looking from too much angle, too much analytical process, more of a realistic level, rather than just preconceptual level. And from that point, that particular approach become the general atmosphere, general approach. Which is very up-to-date presently as well as will be up-to-date in the past as well. Have been happening that way, at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=248.0,347.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the first existence of Surmang situation was around about the fourteenth century. That person who was born in the far east of Tibet, who was born as a child of a local lord, principality, and their family name is called Ma-se, of Minyak, Ma-se of Minyak. Minyak is a province, Ma-se is the name of the particular family of this particular lord, principality. And he was happens to be illegitimate child, the last youngest child of all this family. There had been some resentment of because him being illegitimate child of the family, but still the family paying certain amount of respect, honor, simply that he was born in this particular family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=347.0,436.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that particular area is predominantly of the Nyingma tradition, the oldest school of Tibetan Buddhism. And being taught all the school-- all the school students be taught of Nyingma tradition and the culture, and meditation traditions of all kinds. And when this child is grow up about thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, that he actually become a very learned and powerful person of this particular mona-- this particular principality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=436.0,478.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And his birth place, his-- took place in the province of Surmang, which is the-- where the Trungpas lived. In the journey that the principality, the lord has made towards Lhasa, pilgrimage journey, that this illegitimate child was born in the same area, same province, where the Surmang monasteries would take place-- have taken place, yet not quite yet. And there is a particular place that still that it is known to us, a certain field and certain encampment that the king of Minyak had set up his encampment. And child was born that particular place. However that child was raised as regular discipline that exist locally those days, as evolving both spiritually and temporally; secular and spiritual discipline has being raised, developed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=478.0,564.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When child is begin to become older, that he would like to leave his homeland, which he did so with permission from his parents. And he took his journey to central Tibet. And having received already in his home territory of Nyingma tradition, ati tradition already, that he visited the Seventh [sic: Fifth] Karmapa, Deshin Shekpa, and receive instructions from Karmapa of the time, and practicing something like five or six or seven years. And the Karmapa again encourage him to go back and establish a place, monastery, and certain particular geographical situation, set up place in certain place. And as he returned, he established his-- he found his predicted place, geographical locations, everything, and he established his monastery, or he established his particular encampment, of monastic retreat hut. So he built this weed hut.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=564.0,665.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he begin to teach a group of students in this particular province, at that time controlled by local lord called Adro Shelu-bum. A-t-o is the first name, the fam-- name of the family, and his own name is S-h-e-l-u-b-u-m, Shelu-bum, Adro Shelu-bum. And under his lordship there are something like 900 families and huge quantities of land, something like... to the fact of something like 300 miles square of property. And a lot of them are timberland, a lot of them highland, with the great pasture area, and salt lake.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=665.0,761.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At that place where he established-- this Ma-se established his hermitage. And he is known as Trung as Trungpa. He is known as \"Trung\", because \"Trung\" meaning classical term of being \"attendant\", or the closest to the teacher, is Trung. So Trung Ma-se, in this Ma-se is meaning his family name, Trung meaning that somebody who is closest to his guru, which is the Seventh Karmapa at the time. And he established his particular place there. And his dwelling place is made out of reed hut.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=761.0,817.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And having taught there for a long time, that prominent students begin to rise, among something like several thousand public audience of devotees. Something like 360 are close students, and are-- and having more close students is what's known as \"eight mystics\", and \"three idiots\", who are the closest students. [Laughter] And what's known as the \"three idiots\" were his closest student of all.[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=817.0,873.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the first Trungpa is one of the idiots. [Laughter] And the reason why it's known as \"idiots\" because they are so stubborn-ness to learn and so earthiness that they are not flinched by anything at all; they simply set their mind to one thing at once. And when the-- when teacher tells you to do thing, they just do it. And they become known as \"the idiots\" in their stubborn-ness. And the other eight mystics are equally good in the idiot-ness, [laughter] but nevertheless they didn't quite qualified as known as idiots. [Laughter] And they were somewhat good students and nice people, so to speak. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=873.0,945.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And as his teaching situation become much more stronger and clear, that his students request that we should give a name to this establishment. \"We don't have a name, what we are doing here?\" Well it's-- well Trung Ma-se said, \"We could give name -- some kind of name -- maybe we could give name after my reed hut, and which has lots of corners, because a reed hut is lot of support is needed, and lots of corners. So therefore let's call it Surmang. 'Sur' meaning 'corners', 'mang' meaning 'many', so 'many-cornered.' So let's call it \"Surmang.\" Just arbitrary. He wasn't particularly concerned with the glorious name and such particularly at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=945.0,1004.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Trung Ma-se's particular approach to spirituality at that point, although unfortunately that we have very little information about him. Informations can be only abstracted from various teaching manuals on something else, Trung Ma-se's story begin to come through. There is very little stories about Trung Ma-se, and actually how he conducted himself and things like that. And a lot of stories comes from stories of Trungpas, and other of the three idiots stories comes through, in the manuscripts and all kinds of things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=1004.0,1048.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And seemingly that he was very concerned with trying to blend together the Nyingma tradition and the Kagyu tradition together. The Nyingma tradition was his inheritance, in terms of family background, and the Kagyu tradition is also in his inheritance, from the current teaching that he had received, from the Seventh Karmapa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=1048.0,1090.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That he's known to be a very powerful person. But at the same time he is not particularly metaphysically outspoken person, to say the least. He had been already married at the time, and he has this plan of continuing the Trung family. As successive generations of priests -- whatever you'd like to call them -- which also continuously happened in Tibet those days, the family of teachers. And there is on the other hand another lineage that could continue, which is the students carrying lineage, by instruction level. But somehow, that the family lineage didn't continue particularly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=1090.0,1171.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think his approach towards the discipline is extraordinarily simple and straightforward. That he always recommended sitting practice as most important. Or in those days it be known as that devoting yourself to the caves are important. And having sense of celebration, at the same time. And having sense of celebration has become an interesting part of Surmang tradition in those days. That the people constantly having lots of feasts, and a sense of delight in what they have actually received from the teacher, and the sense of appreciation of what's happening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=1171.0,1243.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Trung Ma-se, towards the end of his life he didn't stay in this particular place, but he camped around with a huge caravan, around the province. So this particular camp, encampment, caravan, is known as the \"Caravan of the Joyousness.\" That villages who have famines and depressions, Province have problems, are waiting for the Joyousness Camp to arrive, and visit them so they could cheer them up, and could go further kind of sense of humor could develop, at the same time. And that seem to be encampment is still continuing, in some sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=1243.0,1303.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And towards the end of Trung Ma-se's life, with the three idiots and eight mystics and three hundred and sixty disciples altogether, they covered a large ground of a part of Tibet of that area. And lot of people begin to regard Trung Ma-se as their particular teacher. And the whole thing is based on very mechanical in some sense, but on the other hand situational gain, so to speak. That Trung Ma-se's approach at the beginning was not so much to have a complete clear vision to begin with, but taking advantage of the situations first, and then having clear vision. That seemed to be how the whole thing worked. And that continuously happening so, up to this particular age.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=1303.0,1371.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think that should be good enough tonight. I don't want to confuse you with too many names and too many stories, at this point. And Trung Ma-se, by the way, is spelled, is \"Ma\" is M-a, \"se\" is s-e. \"Ma-se.\" \"Trung\" is T-r-u-n-g, Trungpa type.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you have any questions, you are welcome.\r\n\r\n\r\n[BEGIN ARCHIVAL TRANSCRIPT ONLY NOT IN AUDIO]\r\nTonight we have a lot of choices of hands. \r\n[END ARCHIVAL TRANSCRIPT ONLY NOT IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=1371.0,1406.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, what did you mean by, first-- the expression you just ended with was working with situations, and then clear vision; as opposed to clear vision, *then* involvement with situations. I'm not quite sure of the distinction.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well first there had to be a mishap. [Laughter] You remember? And then that *is* situation. On the top of the mishap there is a clear vision. You begin to evolve, involve beyond the mishap. And you begin to expand beyond that particular situation. Any problems? Can you ask me more questions about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well one might say that the mishap was caused by not having clear vision at the-- first.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well clear vision to begin with doesn't have any ground, just clear vision, which just mean... concept. Or chain reactions of some kind. To begin with, like analogies of this place, is we had a mishap here, which based on chain reactions. And this place was founded by a group of people, and everything is operating in somewhat based on the mistakes of all kinds. And then we begin to use that as ground to operate. And then we begin to correct the mistake and evolve further. Something like that. We don't want to have to go to too much details, or testimonial style, particularly. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=1406.0,1542.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [UNCLEAR: KCL? CCL?]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, you've been talking a lot about the practicing lineage in the last few days, and also this thing which you mentioned again tonight of the Kagyu tradition going to their caves, as-- and that being something almost unique in the Kagyu tradition as opposed to the other sects. And you also mentioned something last night, or maybe it was the first talk, about the experimentation in the Kagyu tradition. And I-- we seem to be talking now about something that took place 600, 700 years ago. And I wonder what is the real difference between someone like Milarepa or the early Trungpa's students who went into retreat for a year or two? And what was the phenomenal world doing with that, in making it such a different situation than it seems to be here?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not very much. [Laughter] I mean the only difference is that they hear different noises. And these days we might hear airplane flying above, and those days they might hear flies buzzing about.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKE2: But basically their own noises?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Basically their own noises?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=1542.0,1657.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Pretty much same. And we would like to actually -- particularly this is a sort of, if I might say so, American approach -- the U.S.A. -- that ancient times are more romantic, antiques are much more fantastic. And for the very reason this country is very young, and not having enough antiques, that they are nostalgia about Europe or any old places that you could get junk of old stuff. It's fantastically priced, and people make money out of that, everything is shipped into America these days. Anything that's old, including little old peg, old mug, whatever you have. But somehow I think in actual reality, in living situation is concerned, it's actually the same thing. Nothing very much different is-- it's not particularly different at all. And everybody's concerned those days of sitting practice, their routine situations, and caves are more available, not because of romantic reasons, but geographically there are lots of room, that we don't have to spend money on trying to build a cabin anymore, there are holes in the mountains already. [Laughter] You just go and sit there. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nBut nowadays that we can't find holes in the mountains around here, because simply geographical situation is that we have to build cabins, and then we have to meet with the health code [laughter] or whatever you have. [Laughter] Those are incidental situations, and still the same thing. And actually things haven't changed that much. And that's one of the important point is that when you begin to romanticize those good old days, if you're *in* there, right now, you wouldn't think \"this is good old day, right now,\" at all. You would-- same kind of experience taking place anyway. So I think we have to have a time gap-- time-lapse to check in there. And the same as what we are doing right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=1657.0,1799.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, how is Trung Ma-se's technique, or whatever you want to call it, a blend of the Nyingma tradition and the Kagyu; how is it different than either one, separately?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's not particularly different, but it's very clever, in some sense. That the Nyingma tradition is his heritage. He was brought up that way from his childhood and everything. The Kagyu tradition that he didn't real-- didn't regard as he's begin to step out of his own background, get into another tradition. And he found out that he was able to plan the whole thing together. So we have problems exist around here, in this country, with somebody study with somebody -- and of same lineage, actually -- find it difficult to blend the whole thing together. There is too much Christian problem, which is to say guilt conscious. But with Trung Ma-se, who never heard of Christ, which sounds very terrible thing to say I suppose [laughter]; very shocking, complete heathen, whatever is may be. [Laughter] But complete human being at the same time, if I may so so; pure human being, who can actually relate with reality. Inheritance of his family, inheritance of his lineage, could be brought together without any problems.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So it's more just his experience of the teachings?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Sameness of it. And the beauty of the both could put together. It's like, you know, that jewel mounted in the gold. Something like that. Sunshine in the sky. Very simple.\r\n\r\n\r\n[START ARCHIVAL TRANSCRIPT ONLY NOT IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\n[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Who are the spiritual heads or the lineage holders of the Gelukpa and the Sakyapa schools? The Dalai Lama is the head of the Nyingma tradition, right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Isn't the Dalai Lama considered to be the head of the Nyingma tradition?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anybody else? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nNo. He is regarded as Gelukpa, head of Gelukpa, new sect.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: How about the Sakyapa school then? \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They're just some in the middle trying to survive. [laughter] Reason why Dalai Lama is regarded as head of the Gelukpa tradition is because that's most recent one. And sometimes they proclaim themselves as being the reforming sect, all the ideas have dropped out. They come up with new ideas, basically speaking. And they are the recently the state religion of Tibet.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Were you going to say something I think, the first night about the development of the administration of the Kagyu school? I think you were-- I thought that you were going to say something, the reason why they actually began the administration. \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we can continue that next time, which will come up. \r\nIrv. \r\n\r\n\r\n[END ARCHIVAL TRANSCRIPT ONLY NOT IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=1799.0,1943.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, yesterday when you spoke about mishaps, I had the feeling that it was almost like a technique or a tool that the Kagyu used to create sort of an in-between space of transition, where things could happen. And today you speak of mishap, you just mentioned mishaps as being just a series of circumstances, coincidences perhaps. It is both those things, or is it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think I would say both, considering the present situations. Both.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [Laughs] What present situation? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Your guess is good as mine. [Laughter] Our present situations.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=1943.0,2024.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Rinpoche, what kinds of things did Trung Ma-se do to form a relationship with so many students? How was he able to affect that? It sounded like a relatively short period of time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well he's dealing with three idiots, [laughter] and -- three idiots -- do you remember those? And eight mystics. Mystics. [Laughter] And the rest of thing that he doesn't have to particularly relate with one of-- every one of them, too much manually, but begin to develop some kind of sanghaship. \"Sangha\", do you understand the word?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: No, but I was waiting for you to pause before I ask.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which is group spirit.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And group sanity, which is transmitted through constantly, so nothing becomes purely that everything had to go through his bottleneck situation anymore. It's group spirit, group sanity, which usually Kagyu traditions works, always. And that's what we are doing here too, group sanity. [Laughter] Group sanity, opposed to group encounter. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: As opposed to groupie. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=2024.0,2131.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Allen?\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: What's the Tibetan etymology for \"idiots\" and \"mystics\", for the three idiots and the mystics? And is-- was that a structural tradition through the Trungpa line?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the Tibetan word for idiot -- \"ja\" which is a very localized idiom, which literally means \"moron.\" [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: Literally? What are the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Three morons.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. \"Ja\" which means actually means \"lower\", flat, and very naive, like sitting duck. [Laughter] ALLEN GINSBERG: Yep. [Laughter] And the mystics?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: And the word for mystics there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Togden\", which means \"someone who realized.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: And was it-- was that set, a continuing, repeated set for the Trungpa line, or was it just that one occasion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That one occasion. We didn't have further idiots. [Laughter] I beg your pardon. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: I was hoping to be an idiot. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=2131.0,2219.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: The sitting duck notion brings up the idea of mishaps, too. I mean, that's-- it's just waiting--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely so, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: In your description of what a mishap is, last night, you mentioned a number of elements, combination of relaxation and tension. And under tension, you said that one of the elements under tension was distrustfulness. And you said that that was a fickleness about one's own uncertainty. Could you talk more about this fickleness? I have a feeling for it, but I-- it's not quite clear to me what-- just what that is.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think uncertainty comes from jumping back and forth, rather than you have a solid uncertainty taking place. You see what I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Whether you have-- what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Solid uncertainty. Uncertainty is never really solid.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's jumping back and forth.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Between certainty and uncertainty?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=2219.0,2292.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7: Is it conceivable that one could arrive at a state of solid uncertainty? I mean could you sit down and really think about it for a while?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, not at all. Then it couldn't become uncertainty.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: It would become--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It would become very certain. [Laughter] You know, very real, yes or no. [Grinds his teeth] [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: So that's the fickleness, is the wavering?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There is no fickleness when you have a [grinds teeth ferociously; laughter]. It's all set, in the Gothic style. \"Uncertain\" meaning, you know -- it's interesting language: not having certainty. Uncertain meaning not *quite* certain. But still it is certain in some sense. So there's lots of room, to make-- move back and forth. Such as like word \"unknown\", which is not quite meaning completely out. But there's possibilities of knowing and possibilities of not knowing. So therefore it is known as \"unknown\"; it's just behind the curtain, behind the venetian blind. There could be lot of slights, possibilities of that as well, at the same time. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[START ARCHIVAL TRANSCRIPT ONLY NOT IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\n[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Your comment tonight was something like, it's best for students to be earthy and to not have a bunch of preconceptions. \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER What are we poor souls, who have a whole bunch of ideas already to do?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To begin with you don't have souls, [laughter] and your ideas are not solid ideas because they are not founded on aggression, dogma, open ideas, which usually we work all the time with that anyway. There are no problems there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I didn't hear the syntax. I didn't hear your sentence.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That ideas are not founded on solid ground, just ideas. That's a very important point actually. Can you say something more about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well I feel I've got so many ideals about what should happen or what I want to happen or how you should be or how the teachings should be, that I don't feel open and receptive to what is really happening.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's usually good, actually, utterly good, that that particular open and closed, fickleness, tend to bring lot of understanding. Whereas, if you are completely being bored, so to speak, being put through the jaws of crocodile one by one, you have no reference point, you become completely being bored. That seem to be one of the problems that exist in a present spiritual advertisement. That-- like a divine approach, either you are in it or you are not in it. Out, in. You can't actually experience the space between the two. That seem to be problem, and that seem to be spiritual materialistic trick to use to people, trying to say their problem. And I think that's based on also their hesitation to provide anything illegitimately. They feel somewhat inadequate already. Only way to tell them is that buy or don't buy it. Seem to be too cheap.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So is that a question or questioning attitude?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, absolutely. So spiritual discipline is not so much that you become somebody else, but you become you in your enlightened version. So that seem to the whole point. \r\n\r\n\r\n[END ARCHIVAL TRANSCRIPT ONLY NOT IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=2292.0,2410.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well friends, I think-- do you have another one? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: Is this-- testing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Wait, just wait.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: Is this fickleness and uncertainty then supposed to characterize vajrayana study too? TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yep.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: So that it's a--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Vajrayana much more... suicidal level.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: So that-- is it a suicidal contest with the teacher?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: With *yourself*.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay, well that's something else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=2410.0,2455.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42021/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely twelve o'clock. Good night, everybody. And we have a nyinthun coming up. I would like you to take part in those things, prepare yourselves. And thank you being so patient, and *so good*.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=2455.0,2470.5245"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42022","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19751222VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42022/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=0.48,4.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42022/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar entitled\nLine of the Trungpas,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=4.11,6.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42022/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"held at Karme Choling\nin Vermont.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=6.17,8.57"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42022/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number three,\nDecember 22nd, 1975.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=8.57,13.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42022/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital remaster\nmade August 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=13.37,19.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42022/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE:\nThis is the third talk","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=19.23,20.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42022/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on the Line of the Trungpas,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=20.84,23.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42022/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given at Karme Choling\nin December 1975.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473#t=23.1,28.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/87489/file/180473/transcript/42022/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In continuing\nwhat we discussed last 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