{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/mw28912s2x/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1976-07-22: The Yogic Songs of Milarepa: Talk 2: Attitude Towards Spirituality"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1976-07-22"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Video"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Boulder, Colorado, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Course"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/230/show\"\u003e1976 Naropa Institute: The Yogic Songs of Milarepa\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 2: Attitude Towards Spirituality"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Tibetan Buddhist Lineage","Buddhist Foundations"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["Penetrating talk distinguishing between theistic approaches to spirituality and the nontheistic path Milarepa and subsequent Buddhist teachers took. Trungpa Rinpoche describes basic misconception of believing that something outside of oneself will help. Alternative understanding is that sense of potency and possibility exists within oneself already, can be awakened without external help. Despite confusion, possible to plant and nurture seeds and bring about realization from within. Traditional role of teacher in Buddhism is to point out that you contain ability to wake yourself up. Sometimes being woken up is painful, but true spirituality is acknowledging pain, not shying away from realities of life. Otherwise tendency is to be \"eternal tourist\", wandering from one place or idea to the next, searching for satisfaction but ending up empty-handed with no wisdom, nowhere to settle. Alternative is settling down and practicing diligently; Milarepa described as saying to \"do something about it this moment, in this life.\""]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Milarepa"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: MILAREPA: LESSONS FROM THE LIFE AND SONGS OF TIBET'S GREAT YOGI: \u003cbr\u003e\nChapter 9. Destroying Materialism  (excerpts)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/milarepa-3865.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Dec 27 2018 to Mar 29 2021 Transcribing: Mary Beth Kean Checking: Daniel Nguyen Final Proof: Travis May, Leandra Ziegler Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1976"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Penetrating talk distinguishing between theistic approaches to spirituality and the nontheistic path Milarepa and subsequent Buddhist teachers took. Trungpa Rinpoche describes basic misconception of believing that something outside of oneself will help. Alternative understanding is that sense of potency and possibility exists within oneself already, can be awakened without external help. Despite confusion, possible to plant and nurture seeds and bring about realization from within. Traditional role of teacher in Buddhism is to point out that you contain ability to wake yourself up. Sometimes being woken up is painful, but true spirituality is acknowledging pain, not shying away from realities of life. Otherwise tendency is to be \"eternal tourist\", wandering from one place or idea to the next, searching for satisfaction but ending up empty-handed with no wisdom, nowhere to settle. Alternative is settling down and practicing diligently; Milarepa described as saying to \"do something about it this moment, in this life.\""]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/179/small/19760722VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4_1659461035.jpg?1659461036","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19760722VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":2467.264,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/179/small/19760722VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4_1659461035.jpg?1659461036","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/164/179/original/19760722VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4?1659461027","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":2467.264,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/transcript/39425","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19760722VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/transcript/39425/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"﻿[19760722VCTR1 - Naropa Institute - Boulder - Yogic Songs of Milarepa - Talk 2]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\n[START AUDIO NOT IN VIDEO]\r\n\r\n\r\n[BOOKMARK: ANNOUNCEMENTS]\r\n\r\n\r\nKARL SPRINGER: Good evening once again. Just a few announcements tonight. Let's see, let's start with the administrative ones first. There has been opened a new section of T'ai Chi Ch'uan level one, and it will meet from 11 to 12:40 on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Students must sign up at the office before they will be admitted. All other t'ai chi sections are also open. The following courses, which were closed during registration are now accepting new students: Psychology of Consciousness and Space Awareness Training. Tomorrow is the last day of the add and drop period. No changes in credit status or schedules can be made after tomorrow. The hours for add and drop are 10am to 12:30, and 1:30 to 4. That's at the Naropa Institute offices, Broadway. Also, no refunds for dropped courses or food service will be authorized after tomorrow, so tomorrow's the last day.\r\n\r\n\r\nActually, let me say one more administrative thing about class checking. You may notice that there will be people or have been people checking at the various classes to make sure that you're actually registered in them or have a full-time student card to audit them. And I'm sorry that that's necessary, but it is necessary. And it's important that we keep track of who's going into the classes so that it's not too easy, as has been done all too frequently in the past, to attend Naropa Institute free of charge while everyone else is paying. So please bear with us and try and cooperate with the class checkers who will be there in greater numbers in the next few weeks.\r\n\r\n\r\nSome events that will be coming up, for some reminders, things that you've already been notified about. On Saturday at 3pm, here in the auditorium, Francois Bucher will be giving a lecture on \"Occult Sciences and the Arts of the Middle Ages.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nOn Sunday evening at eight o'clock in the auditorium, Marvin Casper, who's in charge of the psychology programs here at Naropa Institute, will be giving a lecture on \"Space Awareness, Tantric Buddhist Psychology and Meditation.\" That's Sunday at eight o'clock here. On Monday at eight-thirty, Winston King, who's a Buddhist scholar, will be giving a lecture on the \"Theravada Trance of Cessation, its Structure and Function.\" Also on Monday evening at eight-thirty in the Academy Chapel, which is 970 Aurora Street, there will be a dance performance with Arawana Hayashi. Arawana was the artistic director of the City Dance Theater in Boston, was a member of the James Cunningham Dance Company in New York, and is a core faculty member in the Dance department here at Naropa Institute.\r\n\r\n\r\nOne other correction from information you received in the student handbook -- prices for the Wednesday evening poetry series are a dollar-fifty for Naropa Institute students and two dollars for non-students, as opposed to two-fifty and three dollars as was stated in that brochure.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd this is a particular event that I don't think you have been notified; you may have seen the posters around. But we're very privileged to have a lecture Saturday evening here in the auditorium by His Holiness Dudjom Rinpoche who will speaking on the essence of the Nyingma teachings. His Holiness is the head of the Nyingma order of Tibetan Buddhism and supreme holder of atiyoga, the highest of the tantric teachings. I think Rinpoche has talked a little about so far about the Kagyu school, the lineage of Marpa and Milarepa, which is the Kagyu lineage that Rinpoche is of as well. And Rinpoche is also holder of the Nyingma lineage, and Dudjom Rinpoche -- just to place him for you -- is the head of that lineage. So we are particularly happy and honored to have him speaking, and invite you all to come to his lecture, which, once again, is Saturday here at eight o'clock. That's it for tonight, thank you. \r\n\r\n\r\n[END AUDIO NOT IN VIDEO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179#t=0.0,58.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/transcript/39425/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good evening. We are about to discuss the continues in this particular course on Milarepa's notions on materialism and spiritual materialism, and generally connected with the basic Buddhist approach spiritual materialism, which becomes very important and heart of the matter. Generally, it's one of the essence where-- one of the important point where that actually attitude toward spirituality-- attitude toward spirituality could be regarded as feeding process, constant feeding process. That you are basically wretched person and sick person. And only way to get better is to present you with all kinds of medicine, which is alien to your body, alien to system, and feeding from outside. And at the same time, that your body is your own journey. That something came from outside would become a help, which is theistic tradition of spirituality. That is to say, basically you have no idea how that you could do it alone. That you constantly look for external help all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179#t=58.0,228.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/transcript/39425/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there is the other type of approach to spirituality, which is based on a basic understanding, notion that some sense of potency exist in you already. That you are a potent person already. That you do possess a sense of immense possibility. That we do not have to actually get external help at all. And we are maybe screwed up, confused like a little seed who's dried up. But once we begin to plant that particular seed on the ground, and begin to water it with the help of all sorts of substance such as like manures of all kinds, then we begin to realize ourselves -- to develop from within. And that seem to be the non-theistic approach to reality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179#t=228.0,302.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/transcript/39425/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Of course lately, the nontheism and theism discussion had to become rather vague, and theistic traditions also begin to borrow a lot of the jargons of the non-theists. And everything's within and the same time without. But at the same time, theists begin to feel somewhat threatened by stressing too much of individual salvation from within. That has become the problem. And quite rightly so, it is a problem. That I do not think that we can actually jumble things together completely that way. If we are particularly talking in terms of ecumenical spirit, that doesn't seem to be the way to handle the whole thing. Otherwise, we have mixture of a terrible soup which has sweet and sour together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179#t=302.0,375.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/transcript/39425/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So from that point of view, somehow or other, the attitude of that external help could bring about some notion of freedom, salvation -- instead waking within completely -- which brings what's known as \"spiritual materialism.\" That notion of spiritual materialism is actually trying to use the external help to glorify ourselves, our inner being, whatever that may be, so that the approach is taking advantage of our existence. Glorifying more. More endornment and more ornaments, and collecting lots of friends, lots of deities, lots of helpers. So that by doing so, we would feel that we have a lot of help to boost up our existence, our extension. Our reality has been expansive-- expanded completely because that we got those help from outside.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179#t=375.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/transcript/39425/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And at that point, there some kind of hypocrisy begin to creep in, at that point. The hypocritical approach there is because that how can we become one with the outside of ourselves to begin with? Since there are numerous problems of that if we could become one with ourselves, so if you begin to bring one with outside, there are a lot of problems. Largely problems that we use-- problems that we ordinarily have in domestic world, emotional world; it exactly the same thing. That our wife or our husband cannot become \"me\" completely. And you can't become your wife. You can't become your husband. That's impossible. So there is that kind of problem of unity. Because there is a separation already involved. So therefore, when you begin try and bring some unity for the sake of \"good boy, bad boy\", the unity cannot actually take place if there is that sense of \"that\" and \"this\" already taking place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179#t=480.0,571.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/transcript/39425/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The hypocrisy begin to expand further. That since this is external thing that I could develop some endornment [sic] on myself, I could evolve myself further, that we begin to also develop some sense of confusion. And the confusion as to that the basic notion of spirituality, from the notion of theistic tradition is concerned, is fundamentally happiness. I am sorry to say this, but that's true. Some kind of happiness which will bring-- obviously, you might be talking about a spiritual happiness, a transcendental happiness, and gone beyond happiness, whatever, but still it’s a level of pleasure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179#t=571.0,659.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/transcript/39425/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The basic notion of spirituality is trying to attain top-notch happiness, the highest happiness that you can ever imagine. It is free from the ordinary domestic happiness, having a color television or buying a good house, eating chocolate ice cream. Those things are somehow spiritual seeker look down upon it as that's not it where things all about. But where things at all about is get higher happiness and the super chocolate cake [laughter] and super air-conditioning and super, super, super duper spiritual religious consciousness of making yourself completely happy. Even if you are pain, even if somebody's cutting you into pieces, and still you could smile and you could have intense joy, pleasure out of those things. And that point, that notion of happiness and the theistic approach becomes rather silly and somewhat it becomes very obscure situation, and in fact, very bourgeois of a different type. There is always that kind of problem, always that kind of problem. And that is precisely what we call spiritual materialism. There's a book about it. [Laughter] You should read it. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179#t=659.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/transcript/39425/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the point here is that the spirituality of that nature is not true spirituality, obviously. And when we talk about spirituality, we are not talking about anything to do with the spiritualism of calling up ghosts, or spiritualism in the sense of dealing with spirits. And spirit, this case, is like in a good vodka and good Johnnie Walker. [Laughter] The essence which makes you intoxicated, that is the spirituality, this point, is *real thing* in utmost level. And the true spirituality, at this point, we are talking about is somewhere that you can actually boost whole thing out-- or up within ourselves completely, within our hearts, within our existence. That we do not have to lend our hands or look for somebody else's help anymore at all. That we could actually generate within ourselves! Of course, there are problems. Then you might say, \"Why you need a teacher and all the rest of it?\" But of course, those problems are very simple. That somebody has to tell you that. And that it is okay. You are fine. You have essence in you already. You can wake yourself up. And I can only tell you to do that. But I am not going to knock you at five o'clock in the morning to wake you up. But you have to wake yourself up by realizing you can be woken up. Although you might be in sleep but you are woke-able person-- wake-able person already. You can do so. You are *it*. You can do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179#t=780.0,899.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/transcript/39425/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At that level, that kind of wakefulness is rather painful and some people might say, \"I don't want to wake up so early. I don't want to face my day. It's horrible. I don't want to be too woken, I'd rather walk in a daze. And just cushion my sleepiness is part of excuse, so I could just purely function and purely simply I can eat and sleep and use the toilet. I don't want to be completely woken up. It's too painful.\" And there's it! That’s the real meaning of spirituality is that you will shy away from real experience of life. That you can't be-- you don't want to be woken up! And this point, you have to actually acknowledge that you should be woken up completely. You should be completely wakeful, utterly wakeful. And wakeful to see through the possibilities of trips of spiritual materialism, and also, possibilities of experiencing that you can be woken up! You can see the pain is extraordinarily clear, which is very painful. And pleasure could be seen very clear, which is utterly pleasurable. But neither of those are particularly regarded as important in each other. They are just simple experience that we experience in our life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179#t=899.0,980.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/transcript/39425/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we begin to do that, there are some realities begin to dawn on us-- begin to dawn on us, begin to realize. That we also begin to develop some sense of satirical attitude to the rest of the trips that continuing. \"Trip\" this case is not necessarily hippie language, but trip in this case is some kind of pleasure trip. The holiday maker’s trip. There's some kind of journey which you like to take, which is purely based on pleasure alone. So therefore, we could call this is trip, which automatically would say this is pleasure-looking journey. That journey or that trip has negative tone to it, because if you are continuously a tourist in the rest of your life, you collect lots of garbage, lots of antiques in your journey, but you never settle down anywhere. So you have no way to live your life properly. So trip this case is meaning \"eternal tourist\", which is actually the same as Tibetan word for \"bardo\", which is the after death and before birth experience. Which is same thing being bardo on this life is completely tripping out all the time, bardo-ing all the time. That you have nowhere to settle down. You like something, you go there. You like Rome, you like Italy, and you go to London and you like England. You go to wherever, Timbuktu, like the Africans, you know, whatever. So you are completely dazed and cushioned and intoxicated by the dreamlike world. But somehow that kind of dreamlike world does not seem to be the-- Buddhist talks about the dreamlike world, but it's just purely being so stupid and confused and wandering around nowhere without aim, without a goal. And it seem to be tripping at that point. It's trip. That is trip. Eternal tourists is taking trip from that point of view. So when we talk about tripped-out is getting off in being eternal tourists. And particularly spiritually, which is very dangerous of course. We talked about that already somewhat. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179#t=980.0,1165.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/transcript/39425/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Whole thing is very ironical actually. That I seem to be re-running the whole thing what we have done already. But however, we should pursue it further, I suppose.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179#t=1165.0,1185.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/transcript/39425/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the songs of Saraha, that his attitude to any kind of trip, tourism, touristic approach is very critical, quite rightly so. And in Milarepa's songs also, it is quite rightly so. The idea-- basic point, I want to get across to you students is that we should actually realize and understand the differences between two types of spiritual journey. One type of spiritual journey is purely looking for pleasure, which called-- could be called \"eternal tourist trip.\" Which is you are stuck in some world, which you can't unstuck anymore. Each time you visit a beautiful place, you want to go to the next place all the time. It sort of some kind of addiction. And the other one is the settling down oneself in one cave, one place, one meditation hut, one particular place and practicing diligently. And all the songs of Milarepa you will read, you will understand them later, that his praise to the beautiful surroundings that he-- his meditation cave has, which is completely anti-trip approach. \"That this is the only place that I can meditate. This is the only beautiful place, and this is my home. I found a home, a solitude place, beautiful place.\" It is different from the one’s approach to hotels, \"Well this is nice hotels, but now I am hotel in London, and next time I'll go to better hotel in Paris or Rome.\" Completely opposite, less materialistic. There had to be a lot of damages done in the past, particularly presenting spirituality in American world, but at the same time, presenting all sorts of trips of tourism, eternal touristic world. Had also provide a lot of possibilities, otherwise, you wouldn't be here. And you are one of the tourists, many of the tourists who just happened to drop by. And sometimes your hotel room becomes net. You are caught here. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179#t=1185.0,1368.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/transcript/39425/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In particularly, like Milarepa's experience of renunciation and his life, that not tripping is very important. Otherwise, you can't sit on your meditation cushion in your cave, because you will be keep on thinking about the next destination all the time. Some of the problems of spiritual materialistic attitude is... self-destructiveness. That you are constantly shopping around, constantly again and again looking for interesting ideas of all kinds. And you have begun-- you begin to become a bag of information and a professional name dropper. But then there's nothing of you as real gutsy person at all. At that level, there is no trust in yourself either. You have to keep on-- in order to continue yourself, you have to keep on continuously dropping names and continuously trying to entertain yourself in a new situation, new phrase, new world, new form of entertainment continuously on and on. And process of that, you give talks and you become professional at that. You make a lot of money out of that. And then you become further and further expert in that kind of world. Where you become finally wretched [UNCLEAR: hag? bag?], old hat who can only babble in your mouth, but no brain, no heart, and let alone utterly no wisdom. So, empty garbage bag.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179#t=1368.0,1503.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/transcript/39425/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And when the death approach, the sickness approach to you, you shrivel. You just completely shrunk, empty bag, no guts, no reality, no self-dignity at all, except your little babble, which also goes on-- goes away at the same time. And one dies in a very sad way. Not even dies as animal, but it dies purely as the one gigantic garbage bag, which used to hold a lot of ancient and new trips in it, but now just empty bag, dissolves, shrivels, with the smell of plastic. And become a few rings of ash. You perish. Your whole life is completely wasted. And the consequence of that is not only that. If that was only the end, that was okay, not so bad. But then your mind continues again at the same time. You have pick up all sorts of shit, all sorts of garbage. And you'll keep on continuing your pain and pleasure trip, which begin to torture yourself. That you have met hundreds of masters, teachers, professionals of all kinds, have seen beautiful work of arts all over the place, collected all sorts of things, but then each one of them is very much painful thing. Each one of them present so much pain. The pleasure becomes the pain. But now you have debt. You don't own them anymore. It's just purely your memory, and begin torture self, begin to doubt oneself at last. And those days it's too late, very too late.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179#t=1503.0,1628.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/transcript/39425/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So as Milarepa says, \"Do something now.\" Try to do something at this moment, this life, while we live, while we on Earth, rather than when we are in the state of consciousness after death. Do something about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179#t=1628.0,1646.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/transcript/39425/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you have any questions, you’re welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179#t=1646.0,1677.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/transcript/39425/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, how do you differentiate then the Buddhist approach to the idea of reality, consciousness, and bliss, which is known as \"Sat, Chit, and Ananda\", and luminosity, vijnana, and mahasukha? 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It's so interesting.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: It's just that it just seems like to be just an act of faith to accept reincarnation or these bardo states.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think it's actually faith, but it's reality, that you are constantly being reborn from the beginning of the talk up to this point. You are constantly expanding or changing yourself. Otherwise, you can't even ask such question at all. You be just a little statue made out of cast iron.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Okay, thank you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So it's very simple and direct. If you go-- continue with that way, we continue with that way in any case. It's very simple. 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That where you begin to feel, that the Christians at least would feel somebody who's studying with the Buddhists is appalling idea; it's terrible thing to do. That you are not even a good citizen. You don't even worship your dollar bill, which says \"I-- God I trust\" -- whatever it says. [Laughter] When I talked about-- Dudjom Rinpoche about that, I told him that each dollar bill there was, I said -- \"I take refuge in God.\" And he was completely appalled and shocked. [Laughter] So very much in this case, as far as a lot of people come here-- come into here, is purely either sort of comparative approach, which means already that losing heart, or else some kind of non-existence of culture at all. And I don't think there's fundamental problems there at all. And it is such as -- as far as my experience concerned, raising your kid from the birth. That's how I'll be handling with my students. They just been born in front of me, and I been toilet training them, [laughter] and giving them bottle of milk, and make them walk, talk, and make them function, and so forth. That's been happening all the time. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I guess that you're suggesting then that maybe we can appreciate our Christianity or our Judaism through walking the Buddhist path?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we could appreciate very much by making us transparent, ready for whatever, providing a pure water, whatever it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179#t=2229.0,2433.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76145/file/164179/transcript/39425/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay, I think that's the questions tonight. I'm sorry. And again, I would like to encourage you to sit, practice during this period. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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