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Sanity, rather than culture, as the basis for both Zen and Tibetan Buddhist practice. Sanity is connecting with the truth of the teachings. Recognizing ego orientation and spiritual materialism as the obstacles to this connection. The antidote to self-deception and charlatanism is to raise our inherent intelligence and dignity, taking pride in our human existence. Q\u0026amp;A Highlights: [Q1] What do you mean by basic sanity? [Q3] What is charlatan poetry?"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Cynicism and Magic","VIDEODVD: Tibetan Buddhist Path"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: CYNICISM AND MAGIC: Chapter 8: Zen and Sanity\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/cynicism-and-magic-15679.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nVIDEODVD: THE TIBETAN BUDDHIST PATH\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.kalapamedia.org/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=DVK410\"\u003eKalapa Media\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Oct 08 2018 to Mar 15 2021 Transcribing: ODT Editors Group Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Travis May Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1974"]}}],"summary":{"en":["An exploration of the limits of culture and tradition in approaching the Buddhist teachings, the need for basic sanity, and how charlatanism can be seen and overcome. Sanity, rather than culture, as the basis for both Zen and Tibetan Buddhist practice. Sanity is connecting with the truth of the teachings. Recognizing ego orientation and spiritual materialism as the obstacles to this connection. The antidote to self-deception and charlatanism is to raise our inherent intelligence and dignity, taking pride in our human existence. Q\u0026amp;A Highlights: [Q1] What do you mean by basic sanity? [Q3] What is charlatan poetry?"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=0.0,44.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like to change the subject to-- as being printed from the point of view of meditation practice to that of Zen training to Tibetan Buddhist training of meditation practice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=44.0,119.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we talk about Zen tradition, that we are talking cultural associations with the Japanese style of Buddhism, of certain particular order, and, also, we are talking in terms of certain disciplines, which are shamatha meditation inspired. And when we talk about Tibetan Buddhism, that we are talking in terms of basic trainings that might come through in the three yana principle, the hinayana, the mahayana, and the vajrayana principle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=119.0,177.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I think if you look at very closely that there is no dichotomy, no problems at all. That Zen tradition is simply expressions of vipashyana experience that had developed, whether you wear black robe, whether you face the wall, or whether you back the wall. All those little details somehow doesn’t make all that problematic, as such.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=177.0,211.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That seem to be the whole purpose is to develop and work on the basic understandings of mindful awareness. That awareness can work on in any level any situations, very simply, definitely. In situation of Zen tradition is concerned, that there is a lot of culture. Culture that is connected with how to handle one’s body, food, and certain behavior, and certain rigid commitment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=211.0,268.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the case of vajrayanist, or for that matter that of the mahayanist point of view of Tibetan Buddhism, for that matter, the hinayana point of Tibetan Buddhism is concerned, that practice consists of sense of a less work of art, less ceremony, and more commitment. The message of commitment does not have to come from that point of view, particularly, how you graciously, ceremonially, ceremoniously conduct yourself, but how you behave in the basic total situation, fundamental situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=268.0,329.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we could say the Tibetan tradition of the three yana principle is somewhat influenced by that of the vajrayana of experience, and experience without art, in the popular level at least, which means very subtle art at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=329.0,374.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In Zen training, that there is lot of approaches that would arouse your clumsiness. That when you begin to see through your clumsiness, you become a good Zen student. Either you sit clumsily, you walk clumsily, or you conduct your whole busy behavior very clumsy level. Eat for that matter clumsily, sweep, wash up, cook, whatever. That there is tendency to bring the whole discipline into the hinayana level of that you are highly intimidated, because you are clumsy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=374.0,440.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That language of being clumsy is not so much that you are bad because you are clumsy, you are good because you are graceful, as such, particularly. But the language-- basic language is that because this is the case with you, you happens to behave very clumsy, very artful, and all of them are hang-up somewhat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=440.0,491.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the Tibetan style of practice of meditation is concerned, that there was not particular big deals made of how you conduct yourself, as far as culturally artful, but at basic psychological there is enormous differences: the transparence of the culture, how you behave fundamentally, artful or clumsy or whatever. That there is some background, backbone, background of some kind is taking place, fundamentally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=491.0,538.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Such backbone is necessary and important, not because you been trained in how to pour tea when you meet your master, or how to learn to prostrate properly according to certain given tradition, but how to conduct yourself at all, every one of them included in your behavior. Whether you’ve been trained in the Christian tradition or Jewish tradition, Islamic tradition, whatever, you bring your piece of culture with you in any case.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=538.0,604.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But if you inspire to work with the Buddhist tradition, particular behavior of sanity that is not called for that you should become traditionalistic, or something or other, but you should be sane as you come in and approach, and work with your master. Even though you might be completely freaked out and completely in contact with the reality, but still there should be some languages involved. That seem to be the difference between that of the Zen tradition, that you should come up-- come to it with certain sense of understanding and training, that when you come up to the Tibetan style, that there is no particular training is necessary except there is enormous demand on sanity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=604.0,663.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in some sense, both traditions are work towards that basic sense of sanity, which seem to be the necessary. So, the question here is that how much we can rely ourselves in tradition and how much we could rely on non-tradition, as you come into the practice, into the path. The question or the topic here is not so much in terms of you should be completely well-trained as to the how-- as to point of how you should handle yourself. And that might make ourselves in the level of a tourism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=663.0,824.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That when you take a tour of certain native culture, native islands, that the first word you should learn is say to thank you, and good morning, and how are you, and then you not defend [sic: offend?] the natives and eat accordance with their style, and drink accordance with their style, sit accordance with their style, and there is lot of this crash course taking place all the time, all over the place, particularly in the Western hemisphere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=824.0,862.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That when you go to new country how you should conduct yourself and, particularly, a lot of very powerful businesspeople are getting into a crash court [sic: course], how to eat with chopsticks, and how to move yourself, and how to eat, and what not to eat, how to say should finish your plate or if you leave something behind, whichever is the polite way to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=862.0,895.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the point here is that when you come to a spiritual master, you don’t come out of it having crash court [course] on something how to handle guru, [laughter] but you have already have a crash court [course] of your own, which is your neurosis, your confusion, which is fantastic, [laughter] very vivid crash course, experiential, very good, very, very good. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=895.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It’s honest and genuine experience. So you come along as you are, as they say, and you begin to experience some reality, roughly speaking, some kind of reality. One never knows which point of view that might be, but some kind of reality, some sense of something-ness. In lot of people’s cases, some sense of nothingness, some sense of too-muchness, but in, basically speaking, some sense of something-ness takes place. Some ground is taking place for you to work your way-- experience yourself, whether you are approaching Zen tradition or the Tibetan style or the Hindu style, Islamic style, whatever. It doesn’t really matter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=930.0,1014.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That there is some sense of experience taking place, true experience, genuine experience. Once you enter into that particular realm of being teacher, relating with a teacher and being student, then there is-- seem to be a new area of experience taking place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=1014.0,1047.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now you are entered into this particular setup, particular situation, you might feel uncomfortable or good. Somehow the experience of comfort or discomfort is not particularly the issue here. That issue here is sense of sanity, whether you are making some connections with the teachings or not, actually making some connections.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=1047.0,1106.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You can make all kinds of connections. You can make connections to the teachings, according to the tradition, three different ways. You can make connection to the teaching not understand anything at all, none whatsoever. It doesn’t make any sense, means almost nothing, completely nothing, pure gibberish. That’s one connection, [laughter] which bewilders our mind and somewhat make us think twice, but still one never knows why you are thinking twice at all, and the whole thing is purely gibberish and no comprehension, no understanding at all, whatsoever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=1106.0,1189.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then second type of connection is, you can hear the connections, you have some understandings of something or other, and because of those understandings of something or other that you caught some ideas of how things might be taught, how things might be presented, and you have some basic understandings of the whole thing, briefly, very casually. And you probably know what does mean by good in terms of the teachings, what does mean by bad in terms of teachings, what the teachings have to present to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=1189.0,1253.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But whole thing is completely upside down. That you misunderstood the whole thing. When the teaching says good, you understood as bad. When the teaching says is bad, you understood as good. That is complete lopsided, say the least, and complete misunderstanding. Because you pay your attention to some directions, but you are self-oriented, ego-oriented. That you want to hear in certain, certain way, that those things you want-- you hear, you heard what you wanted. So, in the-- for instance, example, if it be said that there is no ego, the path is egoless path, that person would understand is path is ego-hood path, you should build your ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=1253.0,1318.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there is the third one, which is partial understanding. That you catch some glimpses of the truth of the teachings, very, very partially. Part of them understood, and part of it haven’t understood. But still there’s some sense of guidelines taking place. That you might have understood that the message which might say, \"At dawn, we rise and eat our breakfast.\" You might have not heard the whole thing, but you have heard, \"At dawn we rise,\" but you probably have missed your breakfast. [laughter] That’s pretty good. You may not had your breakfast, but you rose at dawn. That’s partial understanding, what’s known as partial understanding.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=1318.0,1419.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And reason why those understandings, those process of being covered by all kinds of obstacles, are because thickness on one’s own spiritual materialism. Spiritual materialistically, if you’re thick, stupid, then one begin to think everything good is for the-- on the-- on behalf of good, goodness, but not knowing there are some goods are good and some goods are bad. And that kind of-- one has to develop that kind of smart, cunning, humorous attitude is necessary, had to develop. And the process that half understood or not understood, misunderstood are very important point here, terms of practice of meditation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=1419.0,1490.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have the same problems with Zen tradition at the same time. In the Zen tradition, people are raised in appreciation of things as they are. You have training of oryoki and how to eat properly in zendo, unfolding your scarf-- napkin rather, and dealing with the three bowls, and everything’s be trained for you. Wash up and folding back oryoki training in zendo. And how to practice walking meditation, sitting meditation, and everything. Being precise and being trained. But then, you would be also at the subject of those three principles, not understanding, misunderstanding, and partial understanding takes place all the time. I’m sure we are doing same thing right now here, in this hall, quite possibly, I suppose. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=1490.0,1598.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the Zen tradition, when we talk about poetry, appreciation of things as they are, architectural appreciation and so forth, that we could create all kinds of misunderstandings there. Could such austere and beautiful setup be regarded as home? Or could such setup be regarded as work of art? For that matter, on the other hand, could such setup be regarded as centering for practicing meditation? Those three principles being enormously problematic with all of us and dealing with the Zen tradition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=1598.0,1664.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obviously, the Zen tradition would say that such austere situation is designed to develop inspiration to meditate, but then we have involve another problem. But what kind of meditation we are talking about? Are we talking about bird watching, nature gazing, grasshopper gazing, frog watching? [laughter] Or are we talking about actual real practice according to the Buddha? Sit and watch your mind and watch your breath. That is become question, big question. Very big question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=1664.0,1720.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have lot of poets in this country alone, lot of artists, musicians are involved with Zen, so to speak, Zen. *The* Zen, with a capital \"Z\". And feels very safe, and feels that you can’t be criticized since you be doing Zen. It’s very safe, and if you criticize, that’s also Zen, and you can always get away. If you’re-- \"I’m doing Zen. Okay I’m doing Zen.\" \"And how you do Zen?\" If you can’t answer that person, \"How you doing Zen?\" I will say: \"I’m just doing Zen. Zen doesn’t have explanations.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=1720.0,1778.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. You feel stupid that you ask question. [laughter] Close shave, but still you are getting away with it. [laughter] \"Why do you wear a hat?\" \"It’s Zen.\" [laughter] \"Why do you wear only one shoes?\" \"It’s Zen.\" [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=1778.0,1822.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It’s becoming very pathetic in some sense. Not-- I wouldn’t-- I wouldn’t say it’s amusing, actually. [laughs] It’s very pathetic that we have to lower down that level of Zen is being just ape instinct which hadn’t got duality together. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=1822.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You can compose poems of all kinds: \"My right knee hurts, [laughter] because I see crescent moon.\" [laughter; applause] Who cares? [laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=1860.0,1915.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Such approach is charlatan. You can make anything out of nothingness, because nothingness is your perception, your saving grace, but then you have to present some kind of dichotomy to make sure that what you said is okay. Because of nothingness, because of something-ness, if you feel awkward you give something else by saying that, \"That exists, this exists, therefore that is meaningless,\" which is the usual trick. In composing poetry would say that, \"Tree is tree. Rock is rock. But bubble disappears.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=1915.0,1989.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It’s absurd! [laughter] What you trying to say? It’s cheating. [laughter] It’s absurd, and we haven’t got the level of actual experiencing what Zen might be, so-called Zen, if there is any at all. [laughs] What it actually *it* is. We missed the whole point. It’s very tricky, because it gives enormous room for charlatans and ego-hood people, that you can endlessly compose volumes after volume of such poetry and such way of thinking, constantly all the time. That when you compose one topic, then you compose supplement that particular topic, then the third one is just trying to get away from that commitment. You say something very silly, and that becomes a problem all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=1989.0,2081.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So Zen has provided us, in America particularly, enormous background, enormous dedication, practice of exertion of all kinds, had produced, particularly, enormously. But, at the same time, that enormous people been deceived by Zen, because they could play that game and nobody can challenge. And you people appreciated such charlatan poetry, [laughs] at the same time. That’s shocking. That’s not particularly encouraging, actually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=2081.0,2135.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You thought those poetries are funny and interesting, which may be so, but those poetries are charlatan poetries that you can provide. It’s shy away from reality that you provide something. You have first thought, and you have second thought, then you try to make smooth out of the both of those. Those are the process that it goes on. And this particular process might train you how to detect charlatans, which is absolutely important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=2135.0,2185.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"People use Zen ideas to be charlatan to they get away. In fact, they produce enormous beautiful wisdoms. They make it. They become-- they help people, but fundamentally they fail, because they failed in themselves. That’s become problem. I think the whole point here about Zen, and actual practice of meditation, we don’t want to particularly call it Tibetan style as such, but just basic Buddhist sitting practice of meditation. That we are not involved with that particular work of art, comparing the positive, negative coming conclusion of something or other. That we are talking about purely in terms of simplicity, and simply that sitting practice of meditation is involved with just *it*. Breath, sitting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=2185.0,2254.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Doesn’t matter what cushion you sit on, doesn’t matter what environment you are at, simply one just does it. Simply one just does it. Work with one’s neurosis. It’s simple as that. We have a lot of possibilities of deceiving ourselves from that point of view. We think we are something or somebody or other, we would like to prove it, try to pursue it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=2254.0,2303.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Either you have astrological chart is worked out for you, or else spiritual symbols descending on you from above, else you be raised from underneath you, that you are the divine incarnation of spiritual receiving, spiritual message. That you would like to work with the fellow man, whatever. There’s endless, endless, and endless possibilities of that, but everything seem to be rubbish, full of shit. [laughs; laughter] You don’t have to be too serious about that. You could be humorous about that. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=2303.0,2361.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It’s ironically true. But makes you sad on the other hand. That such interest, such human intelligence missed that particular point, and you took it as being real. It’s very sad. It’s devastatingly sad. We could weep, and we could weep and weep, years and years, years. The sadness of the universe that mankind been abused to the such extent, which is a terrible thing. Human. It’s not right! Such things shouldn’t happen at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=2361.0,2425.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is time for us to raise our dignity, real dignity. That we have instinct already in us. We have intelligence already in us. Why don’t we use them, it, that, whatever? Use it. Well, it’s up to us, obviously. That nobody can dictate, and we can’t form a union organization or mankind’s lib. That’s been done already and somehow becomes a small organization already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=2425.0,2473.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There’s no point in doing that, defeats its purpose already, so have to raise some kind of consciousness. And, particularly, question that raises that at the beginning that talking about Zen and basic meditation practice, which is a very important point for you to understand. That how we could work-- how we could raise, take pride in human existence of the ego-hood or the egolessness, whatever. Excuse me. Develop some sense of dignity and power, seem to be extremely important point.\r\n\r\n\r\nI would like to turn over this particular meeting to the audience, so you’re welcome ask any questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=2473.0,2546.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Could you speak some more about what you mean when you say basic sanity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It’s very basic. [laughter] That doesn’t need any reference point of view. It is self-spoken already by itself. That there’s no questions involved. That you see things as truly and fully as things as they are, directly, simply. There’s no point-- there’s no need for reference point, and simply seeing things as they are very clearly. You hear them, you see them, you feel them, you smell them as very simple situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: And neurosis, then, would be seeing things as they aren’t?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely. There’s some little distortions, not understanding, partial understanding, or misunderstanding. We discussed that, do you remember?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=2546.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: When you were speaking of poetry, were you talking about the Japanese haiku?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not particularly. Just simple poetry.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I was just wondering, isn’t there something meditative in trying to see things in that way, which is as they are, rather than with the interpretation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don’t think that it makes any difference is because haiku could be fantastic, and any poetry is transparent. Can you compose poem for us? On the spot? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: \"The Tibetan man / waving his metal object / smiles in our eyes.\" [laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=2640.0,2725.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yes, could you tell me what you mean by charlatan poetry? I’m not sure what the word charlatan means?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You have heard about that before?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In the dictionary? Well, charlatan is somebody who plays game that it pretend to be something else. Either guru, teacher, leader, or whatever. But, this point, charlatan is spiritually speaking, that a person abuses the other people’s energy not knowing where he is at himself but hoping that he could find some guidance by abusing other people’s energy and finding that, hopefully, that he could find his way through.\r\n\r\n\r\nConsequently, hurting lot of people, destroying a lot of people’s life and intelligence at the same time. So, from this point of view, spiritually speaking, being charlatan is almost murderous. That you murder people on one side, other side completely, because you have no consideration of *their* need, but you try to build yourself up, same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=2725.0,2833.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In the white.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Could you talk about the difference between Zen and basic or Tibetan Buddhism in their approach to the neurotic mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: At that point, is exactly the same approach. I mean, that’s why there’s common goal, common interest between Zen and Tibetan approach is their view to the basic mind and their neurosis are exactly identical. That problem that might come up with application how to handle it, but as far the basic point is concerned, it’s identical.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=2833.0,2896.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Do you think-- feel that John Cage is a charlatan?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Do you feel that John Cage is a charlatan?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: John Cage?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: The musician.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is a charlatan? Well, it’s very difficult to say, not having had personal relationship with him, not meeting him, and seeing how handle his body and how handle himself. But, at the same time, that if he’s a charlatan, he seem to be very courageous charlatan. [laughter] And I don’t know, I have to find out, and I have to do my homework with him. So I could let you know later on. [laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=2896.0,2960.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Do you think this whole problem with charlatans is-- well, isn’t it sort of magnified by the fact that we don’t have an American tradition yet in Buddhism, and that when we cease to have Japanese or Chinese or Tibetan grafted on, but we do have American, that the problem will become much less?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that’s true. It’s much easier to become charlatan of foreign culture, because half of people doesn’t know what you’re doing. [laughter] And you begin to say something and begin to accept the whole thing. Whereas, if you are American charlatan or Christian charlatan, which is easily detected. You have to be true to what you’re saying. That seem to become a problematic situation, I’m afraid. You’re right. The mysteriousness makes you charlatan, possibilities be charlatan. That is the problem, actually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=2960.0,3040.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: One of the last things you said was that we have to begin to take a pride, we have to begin to have dignity, and then you said in either our egolessness or the truth or in our ego-hood. And that didn’t make sense to me.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPGA RINPOCHE: How come? [laughter] You tell me first.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: It seems that the trap-- there’s kind-- there’s a false pride or false dignity in your ego, in the \"I am-ness\" which seems to just build more and more ego-hood, rudra-hood.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: True.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: So what’s the value of taking pride in that without proper discrimination?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think if you take pride truly, properly, you feel you are hundred percent, hundred percent proud of yourself. Whereas, in the case of rudra-hood or ego-hood, it’s not hundred percent, because you have some suspicion you have to protect your territory, something or other. There’s some suspicion is happening, as well, at the same time. So that’s the differences, because you have all kinds of aggressions and passions, and territorial game is going on all the time. You can’t be hundred percent proud of yourself, which-- that’s why it’s called \"vajra pride,\" because whole thing is completely protected if you have the true pride.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: So when you do feel a very solid pride in yourself, in your own being, that in itself will cut through...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If there is no watcher, then you develop your pride. Watcher or self-consciousness that’s okay. That’s masterpiece. Good luck, sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=3040.0,3159.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like to ask people to compose poems, particular, seem to appropriate tonight that if you’d like to, you raise your hand?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, why don’t you compose a poem? Can you give the microphone to him? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nYou can do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I’ll stand up and do it. \"Sweaty feeling / doesn’t help your mind / to work through the emptiness.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That’s not bad. [laughter] That’s pretty good, actually. That’s fantastic. [laughter; applause] You did it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=3159.0,3254.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I’m an American Buddhist. I wish I knew what that was.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I wish I knew what that was.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: American Buddhist? Like you. This building is American Buddhist. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=3254.0,3300.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: \"You’re the radiant sun / without whose rays / the diamond doesn’t shine.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you say so. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=3300.0,3326.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40325/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it’s time to close down. [laughter] Thank you very much. [applause]\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=3326.0,3415.31733"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40326","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740703VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40326/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like\nto change the subject to--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=46.84,50.15"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40326/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as being printed from the point\nof view of meditation practice","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016#t=50.15,64.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76072/file/167016/transcript/40326/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to that of Zen training\nto Tibetan 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