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How ego operates to create security through duality. Stages of ego's development, from basic bewilderment to grasping, intellectualizing, up through what traditionally known as the five skandhas. Passion, aggression, ignorance as ways ego maintains itself. Necessity of surrendering, giving up territory, for real insight to occur. In Q\u0026amp;A [Q1] nature of nowness; [Q2] how to meditate in midst of ego; [Q3, Q4] how ego is defined in Buddhism and West; [Q5] what egoless state is; [Q6, Q11] process of ridding oneself of ego; [Q7] awareness without watcher; [Q12] spirituality in Buddhism and Christianity; [Q20] about reincarnation.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eJun 16 2024 to Apr 30 2026 Transcribing: Eirikur Baldursson Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R6"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDefines correct view of Buddhist meditation: working directly with ego, with ground being egolessness. How ego operates to create security through duality. Stages of ego's development, from basic bewilderment to grasping, intellectualizing, up through what traditionally known as the five skandhas. Passion, aggression, ignorance as ways ego maintains itself. Necessity of surrendering, giving up territory, for real insight to occur. In Q\u0026amp;A [Q1] nature of nowness; [Q2] how to meditate in midst of ego; [Q3, Q4] how ego is defined in Buddhism and West; [Q5] what egoless state is; [Q6, Q11] process of ridding oneself of ego; [Q7] awareness without watcher; [Q12] spirituality in Buddhism and Christianity; [Q20] about reincarnation.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled Understanding the Neurotic Aspects of Mind, given in New York City. This is talk one, given on October 22nd, 1971. This is a CTI custom remaster made June 2024.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on the Neurotic Aspects of the Mind, held at New York, October 1971. This will be the introductory talk, October 22nd.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=0.0,51.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: This particular session is introduction to the seminar that we are about to perform. And it seems that it is important to get into fundamentals of meditation and its application as whole. That what we trying to present people is that fundamentally that any kind of approach to spirituality is very tricky. Therefore we should get into something very specific and something very accurate, that we could work onto the situation -- that there is no danger of any kind that anybody involved with spiritual scene of any teaching or any kind of style. So that one of the first warning that tend to happen in this case is that any spiritual scene which is purely based on ego-centered, purely trying to develop ego into its magnificent qualities, is extremely dangerous -- dangerous in the sense it could hurt oneself as well as others. And therefore we should raise our neck, or our head, look much more further, a greater distant than ego could reach its level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=51.0,166.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it's becoming more generous and becoming more open-minded to the process of ego's radiation. In case of ego's radiation is concerned, it is largely based on that which contains \"me\" and \"myself\" -- which also means that \"me\" in terms of that which does exist \"here\", \"myself\" which means that \"my\" radiation of existence also remains \"there.\" So working with \"me\" and \"myself\" constantly supports of that existence, that security that exists within us, being constantly be reinforced by certain ego-centered attitude. And in the Buddhist tradition of working with ego is that there is another notion that what is called egolessness, absence of ego. That ego doesn't exist as such, because of struggle, because of its neurotic, erroneous beliefs. And belief purely exists on purely trying to maintain itself, trying to maintain \"this\" and \"that\" constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=166.0,276.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the seminar that we are trying to conduct here is that somebody, somewhere, maybe only one person in seminar, could realize this situation -- or two or three, hundred for that matter. To come to conclusion that we have to come to terms with giving up our centralized notion of watcher. That we tend to watch ourselves and maintain ourselves. That kind of the basic notion of ego, that seem to be the basic point of our seminar here. And beyond that level, that meditation practice and techniques of meditation that will be also shown in the seminar, will be also conducted in same way that-- in other word, that this seminar should not harm anybody or should not increase their ego trip at all. Other-- if this happens-- this tend to happen, then I'm doing complete and extreme disservice to people -- trying to maintain their ego, exclude their awake quality of themselves, and encourage their ego trip. Which is extremely bad and punishable karmic situation, for the point of view of teacher and the point of view of students. That we don't want to bring people down at all, that what we actually relate with the situation is that if we could alleviate or step out of that basic principle of ego, that there seem to be our duty or basic intelligent way of working with people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=276.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And as introductory process, that ego contains different stages of grasping qualities. At the beginning, bewilderment of not knowing what we are, not knowing where we are, sudden bewilderment. That bewilderment contains also grasping quality in order to maintain its bewilderment qualities. That maintenance of bewilderment quality also brings possessing, grasping of its extension and trying to grasp, trying to maintain, trying to hold onto something. And also it contains, at the same time, intellectualize the whole process of bewilderment, trying to make whole thing into valid situation, a valid thing, legal thing, legitimate thing, so that you have a logical and philosophical reinforcement behind you. And finally that that whole process of thought process involved with complicated thinking, manipulative thought process of grasshopper-like thoughts, cinema-show-like thoughts, and drunken-elephant-like thoughts -- that thoughts of all kinds goes on to maintain its individual strength of maintenance of ego, which is based on passion, aggression, and ignorance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=390.0,493.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Passion in the sense of grasp that which is not your element, that which is not your territory, trying to maintain that. And aggression in the sense of that anything not connected with your basic collection is being rejected, cast off -- if anything threatens us, it will be cast off. And that kind of very frightening situation happens constantly with the ego process. So that whole process that what we are trying to work-- and work with people is purely relate with individuals, teaching and teacher-and-student relationship, that nobody is completely regarded as ordinary person, but everybody is unique person in the same situation, and any kind of spiritual search that we might make. But at the same time nobody could get absolute spiritual results, if you could call it spirituality, without giving up of something, without sacrificing something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=493.0,568.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That it seems that whole thing is based on giving and surrendering process. That we have basic ideas what we are, and since we know what we are, possibilities of we losing our ground purely for the sake of surrendering into the unknown, that unknown may be terrifying or suspending ourselves in nowhere, but that in itself seem to be worthwhile. Unknown process is stepping out into the ego's realm, that's why it is unknown. So in other word, whole thing could be said that we want to attain enlightenment, that we as individuals cannot attain enlightenment at all. That we have to give up our \"we-ness,\" \"our-ness\", \"me-ness.\" You cannot watch your own funeral party, funeral process. We die completely. The death of \"we\" and \"me-ness\" and \"I-ness\" dies, and beyond that there is subtle and precise and sharp intellectual or inspiration or intelligence takes over, which is not quite \"me\" and \"me or what?\" at all. Doesn't contain any of those questions or answers -- it just is so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=568.0,663.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That seems to be the basic point that what we are trying to present in terms of this particular seminar, which is for the first time we've had such a seminar in this New York City. And also it seems to be extremely important, I feel this is, this seminar is one of the monumental presentation of true Buddhism, absolute understanding of Buddha's teaching. And we follow his teaching as he taught, naked and without contaminated by doctrines or theologies or philosophies of any kind, just simple, direct teaching of Buddha that we're trying to present.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=663.0,709.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which is reinforced by my own lineage that process of teaching that I myself grown up and brought up. And the blessings of lineage also remains very hot and fresh, like hot, baked bread. That bakers will hand it down their generation, generation, of their analogies of their skillful way of how to bake their own bread. That each bread that you distribute to your own people is hot and fresh and living quality, it has its own reinforcement, it has its own dignity and power behind it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=709.0,752.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it seems that I feel it is very comfortable and confident situation that we are proclaiming teaching of Buddha in New York City in terms of seminar -- not only one lecture or two lectures but people actually taking part in this seminar, they could able to get into it thoroughly and fully. Which is, could be said of that of lion's roar, as Buddha would have said -- that which frightens off feeble animals, frivolous animals away. And those animals who will be subdued to it would listen to it, and take off their furs and take off their dignities and begin to reduce in themselves to individuals.[Laughs] So, it's lion's roar that's happening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=752.0,799.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And perhaps we should stop there. [Laughs; laughter] If there are any questions, we could discuss.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=799.0,809.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, a slice of the flow, this nowness and that moment is. Then what follows that moment is the usual associations that I don't understand. And was that moment of nowness really maintenance of ego? All of this kind of thing. Would you please say something from that point of view?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems nowness is uncontaminated, pure and fresh state of what is. Which has nothing to do with playing back of the past or the anticipation of the future, but basic, simple state of being there, right on the point. And--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But the uncertainty is that this is still maintaining something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you have to acknowledge that. You have to develop tremendous concept of pride, in a sense, that you are what you are -- that kind of ego seems to be very healthy ego. That you have to maintain what is, what you are. What there is, it seems to be right there, right on the point. One doesn't have to escape at all. You see, the problem of nowness is that it doesn't allow any escape of any kind of excuses. You have to face the facts right there. Absence of that, we forget to cover ourselves. Nowness contains absolute, fundamental intelligence as it is. And when that intelligence is there, that's so. But on the other hand, that we try to forget to cover ourselves. There also will be occasionally gaps that we forget ourselves to cover, and we could catch ourselves by surprise. That's basically acknowledging nowness is really living situation there, right now.\r\n\r\n\r\nAny questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=809.0,948.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Ego is so clever. It seems to take over everything. It's the ego that tries to meditate, and the ego that tries to be aware.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=948.0,972.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, so what? [Laughter] We just meditate, we just do it. We don't have to try to destroy any inquisitive watchers around us at all. We just do it, we just put ourselves into practice, that's all. If you begin to involve with the trips of ego and trying to maintain the other opportunities of shaking off ego, then we also involve with the double cross of ego at the same time. So why don't we just do it, and boldly and very simply? Just step onto practice and do it. We don't have to contain-- concern about tricks of ego at all, because we're not involved with tricks at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=972.0,1025.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Would you define what you mean by \"ego\"? I mean, the word is used a lot of different connotations. It seems to have a very negative connotation as you were using it. But then you said if you get down to the true individuality at one point, did you say that, how would you relate the ego, individuality, self? What does the word \"ego\" mean actually as it's being used?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=1025.0,1070.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I suppose you are quite right that way we are using is quite negative, quite rightly. And when we use the word \"ego\" it means that unhealthy and frivolous way of maintaining ourselves, which could fundamentally destroy ourselves, which leads to pain and frustration. And ego contains also self-torturing process that could destroy ourselves. But having destroyed already, doesn't need us anymore at all, that destroys another process of creative. And ego recreates itself and then recreates ourselves constantly, so on. So ego is therefore-- it's not-- nothing to do with self-respect situation at all. It's something frivolous, something self-centered, egomaniac as they call it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well I was going to say, is it that being egocentric is bad or not re-- not orienting toward reality--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I wouldn't say about bad--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: --and so on, not a healthy ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't say exactly bad, but it's unhealthy, because it contains torturing process of itself all the time. That you create your own whirlpool of torturing constantly again and again, without learning anything out of it. That's why the-- in the Buddhist notion of samsara, which means the whirlpool of confusion which goes on and on and again and again, is self-torture.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is there a healthy self that one can achieve?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well if one doesn't torture ourselves, then there is something continuous, of course, which could be hardly said is ego from this point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=1070.0,1187.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So is it when you say the word \"ego\" that you more or less are referring to those qualities that the Western psychoanalysts would call neurotic? Not necessarily the portrait of ego that we think of as self-identity, that the type of identity that say a psychologist such as [Erik] Erikson will talk about and his ego [INAUDIBLE]. You mean it-- am I correct in saying you mean it only in the neurotic sense, as to the [INAUDIBLE] ego defense mechanisms, as the responsibility for, say, as the source of energy for neurotic behavior patterns. Or how-- where do you draw the line?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seem that whole thing of ego is consist of basic maintenance of self-respect, in the conventional sense. To try to maintain ourselves also means trying to grasp and trying to repel the foreign elements, anything comes to you. So it's the self-respect quality of ego from the psychologist point of view -- become good businessman, become good director of corporation, become good actor, become good singer. That kind of attitude of becoming a better person seems to be the-- one of the weakness problems of all. That in fact you can't become better person if you're fighting still for it. It's in other words, that trying to make a warrior out of nobody doesn't work, but you can make warrior of somebody would work. You become good warrior if you made warrior of somebody, rather than good warrior of nobody. You see the point?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I'm not so sure on it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's a question of clinging onto something. That something is very basically there, and trying to re-- trying to magnetize the whole thing. That trying to sort of expand the whole process of \"me\" and \"mine\" world does not help. As long as there is a notion of \"me\" and \"mine\" involved with the process of ego, that in itself is self-destructive. So in other words unless person give up their centralized notion of anything, that person becomes egolessness. Person begin to realize the egolessness quality of as it is. But as long as a person begin to relate himself as somebody who has basic ground to develop themselves or work on themselves, somehow the basic mechanism of ego doesn't function at all. It becomes a battle process. As long as it involves a battle process in other word, then there is no such thing as permanent ego at all. Do you see what I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well, I think I'm getting a kind of image of something that's supposed to be there, something that's not there in terms of ego, and then with your societal expectations, and then a battle between the two for dominance.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's right, yeah. You got that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well, then there is-- what you're saying there is something basically that does serve, perhaps I-- you want to use the word \"pure\" ego function. That-- in terms of the baby's consciousness, would that be--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Baby's consciousness?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's the same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Would [INAUDIBLE] primary or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, as far as the baby is concerned it's same thing. Because babies already inherited their karmic situation as they are and they have all the essence of everything, so it doesn't make all that differences at all. I mean you cannot con the ego anyway at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=1187.0,1477.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Would you describe what the egoless state would be like?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's basically sane and open to situations, but at the same time able to handle them beautifully. Fundamentally being sane, fundamentally possess the transcendental common sense as it is. That's all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Would there be any changes in our social life, in our work? Would everybody still have their own function in the society [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. They'll eat their breakfast, [laughter] they'll eat their lunch, they'll eat their dinner, they'll meet their friends, they will go to theaters, they'll relate with their friends. But all the time right there. When you eat your breakfast, you really eating your breakfast there. When you're relating with your friends, you're really relating with you friends right there. When you per-- when you take part in a theater as audience, you're really watching there. Everything's right there happening. There is no frivolity or there is no conflict of any kind. You do what you do. As Zen master described as, \"When I eat I eat. When I sleep I sleep.\" Everything's done really completely, properly. Just there. Whole thing happens right there, on the spot. And in fact person enjoys great deal more if really doing what they are doing, if they are really right there. The surroundings create to satisfy their pleasure becomes more enjoyable because they are right there, because they act as true audience or true receptive situation as they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=1477.0,1613.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Do you think that to do away with the ego, if this is the word that you would use, I don't know, or does it just go away by itself, is there is a process to it? I mean, it seems that all the conflict comes from the ego as we are discussing that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that we have to go through some process of surrendering ego. Which is to say that you have to have particular teacher, spiritual friend to whom that you could relate to, which is necessary, extremely necessary. You don't regard that friend as a hierarchical person or any kind of extraordinary thing, but you relate that person as true friend that you could relate with the eye-level situation. And you relate to that teacher or guru, whatever you like to call it, as personal friend that who knows, who speaks your language and you could relate to it. And because of that, then his examples, his isness quality of being right there in connecting with you, communicating with you, also inspires other living situation as well. And from that you begin to learn how to discipline yourself in a daily living situation, meditating. It seems that certain daily practice of meditation is seem to be extremely important to it, to discipline yourself -- at least stop speeding, stop rushing, and start on some basic point is extremely important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=1613.0,1731.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Can there be self-awareness without the watcher?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems-- yeah, I think so, because the watcher takes tremendous long process of extending itself, and touching on the ground, and grasping, and then finally bring back the information to yourself. But just click and quick precision, accurate process of watching, or awareness, seem to be the most important. It seems there is a difference between the two. The awareness is abrupt and precise, and watching oneself is very slow and very deliberate.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: The basic intelligence that you speak about will grow automatically from the meditative state. Is there any other way of allowing basic--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well meditative state also invites everyday life situation and relating with the everyday life situations as well at the same time. Constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=1731.0,1825.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Is the student-teacher relationship necessary -- I mean in the sense of essential? Or can a person develop this on their own?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can person develop?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: The sense of awareness on their own, or must he--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems to be that it's necessary to have someone relate to, to begin with, as an example -- seem to be very important to begin with. I think extremely important to have some relationship with some person who could actually relate with you, and he could see how he relate with you as well at the same time. Seem to be extremely important at that point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=1825.0,1870.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Will you explain the third eye or the spiritual eye? Then I have a separate question: Do you know your past lives?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPCHE: Can you say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Will you explain the third eye or the spiritual eye? And do you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Spiritual eye?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I have two questions. One is, explain the third eye.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's that?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: The third eye.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The third eye. The *third* one? [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm? The spiritual eye?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yep.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The spiritual eye, which sees beyond two. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughter] You don't have to use the two, but two be seen as one, which is very precise. Actually we all do that, in fact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=1870.0,1956.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Second question: Do you remember the past lives that you've been?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do I what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Do you know the past lives?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure, I do. [Laughs; laughter]. Otherwise I wouldn't be here at all. [Laughter] It's quite obvious. It's quite certain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=1956.0,2000.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: It's obviously very difficult for most of us to understand the ego's recognition to what we're trying to understand, what you are trying to tell us about becoming egoless. Is the meditation process which we will be trying to achieve tomorrow, will that help us to achieve or to understand what we have difficulty with intellectually, or must one understand it first intellectually in order to have a successful meditation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I wouldn't promise anything. [Laughter] But, it is possible, highly possible, because I've done it myself. That there is way that you could relate with yourself by help of other expert people who had done the same thing, who would lead you into understanding of what you are by training in the practice of meditation, as well as also hearing the intellectual answers of process of ego as it is. It is highly possible -- I mean I wouldn't say it is completely hopeless at all. There is tremendous possibilities is been open to us. It is highly possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=2000.0,2104.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: There is a tradition in Western religion, as is represented by Jesus Christ, that it seems to be very much in conflict with or contradictory to the Eastern religions. In that the tea-- it still goes on today, the teaching, although not very well known, where the teaching says that everything is manifesting from one mind, and that this mind is cause, and that you are cause of everything that happens to you and of your own manifestation. That your body is a manifestation of your mind. And the very first levels of understanding of your mind are that all disease and illness comes from mental discord. And that when you find mental harmony you immediately heal your body and become perfectly healthy. Jesus practiced this and healed people and taught people how to heal themselves and it still goes on today. And we have teachers that heal people and so on. And I have known a number of Zen masters and other people who have very high attainment, very definitely spiritually awakened people, who nonetheless fall prey to illness that they can't control. I understand that you also get sick. And in the Western tradition it's the very most elementary level of mental understanding is to be able to keep yourself healthy. I don't understand why this is absent from Eastern religion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see, I don't know exactly whether I could answer your complete questions, but as we look to the point from the Eastern point of view, that we don't look for spiritual achievement as beautiful thing to happen. In fact on the contrary it's terrible thing if you have to give up your ego, that's terrible thing to do. You have to give up your self-respective thing you have to give up your \"me\" and \"me-ness\", \"I am\" and \"my own\" -- you have to give up the whole thing. Extremely terrible thing to do. It's really outrageous thing. [Laughter] That somehow that we are not concerned with spirituality as beauty and romantic thing anymore at all. But we regard spirituality as something very juicy, organic, raw and rugged. And from that juicy and raw and rugged quality of manure of experience -- which is the topic of my previous book MEDITATION IN ACTION -- from that we begin to learn something out of it, that spirituality is not all the time connected with angels singing beautiful songs and music and you are landed top on the beautiful rainbow and everything is being beautiful.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd spirituality is both birth and death at the same time, seeing its absolute level as it is. And on the consequence of process of that, that you may able to heal somebody's fundamental basic neurosis. But it seems that what's wrong in the Western tradition, which could be said that a misunderstanding of Christianity, is that Christianity is often associated with beauty and goodness. And whenever anybody falls into pain, suffering, somebody is become perfectly devout Christian and their children completely wiped out by plague or war, then they begin to question why God is supposed to be good, why God is so bad at it. Because the fundamental quality of God is good, and why God is become bad on me, because I have been true believer myself. And awful lot of questions have been raised about that point. And it seems that whole process is that difference between Eastern and Western believing into the spirituality is goodness is towards godliness, or goodness associated with universality, cosmic conscious. [Sound of alarm; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nThat seem to be the two different distinctions. That both chaos and-- both chaos as well as the orderly is being regarded as act of openness of spiritual inspiration, as far as the Buddhist way of looking is concerned. But in the terms of Christian concept, in the superficial way, [sound of telephone ringing] is that the chaos is purely belong to the realm of devil, and goodness is pure realm-- belong to level of gods, so that God had no control over the whole thing. Think about.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I'm going to ask-- I didn't expect perhaps to get an answer directly that I was able to understand, but accepting all this about Christianity, the specific part that I was most concerned with was the teaching that mental discord produces disease and illness upon the body, and that by knowing the fundamental peace and harmony of your mind, you can cause your body to be perfectly healthy and well and never have to get sick. I still don't understand, if that's true and I've seen it to be true, why people who are enlightened seem to be helpless in front of disease and sickness.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean at same time you could say that Christ was crucified, he experience the pain because he had a body -- that he deliberately refused to accept the chaos as part of divine quality, that's why he suffered that chaos. And at the same time that if you regard the-- just regard the chaos is part of the pattern of goodness, then you don't have to suffer from that. Buddha died peacefully, without being crucified. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=2104.0,2538.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I picked up the notion from listening to the various people speak about meditation and the Eastern arts that there is a principle that is embodied in every human being, that's even embodied in every flower or just by the universe. And when one loses this ego, one can be at one with this principle. And further then, if one is at one with this principle, one is also at one with certain wisdom that we're going-- sort of going and [INAUDIBLE] sort of enlightening. Could you tell me if my notion is wrong or if-- or right? And say something about-- if it is right, say something about this principle, and indeed is it in all of us?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: This-- if there is a principle of sorts, it's something that is in me-- we should all be at one with, in which all wisdom emanates from. Could you tell us something about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I didn't quite follow what you said.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well, say if we lose our egos--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: --and we're at some sort of a state.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: It's been my notion that if one has this [INAUDIBLE] that we would be, sort of at experiencing a kind of consciousness or kind of energy that's translatable into many forms, and this would be the energy of the universe.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: And it's something--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If we lose our ego. Did you say, \"if we lose our ego\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: If we lose the ego, then this becomes [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Or is there then [UNCLEAR: something beautiful?]? And from this energy, which is mirrored in the universe, in a flower, in God, in the atoms, in human beings, is there some sort of differences--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: --at least [INAUDIBLE]? Could you say something about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that if we use our energy as it is, that both your questions saying the same thing in a sense. That if we ever acknowledge our energy as it is, then energy become a creative process at the same time. Whether it's chaos or whether it's beautiful things, whole thing becomes same. Do you see what I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well, how does the use of, say to be a-- you see, like I could experience losing my ego and experience utter chaos. Probably that's what I would do if I lost it immediately, is that I'd be sort of like wanting a sort of like a preparation. Or I imagine that if I went into meditation, I could lose it in such a way, at least that's what I'm able to understand, that I could lose it in such a way that things would be revealed to me that would really turn me on as a human being.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGA RINPOCHE: Turn you on to?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Turn me on to being alive, as a human being--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To be what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Turn me on to being alive--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: --as human being.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPCHE: Well, I don't see any contradiction between the two. Seem to be quite simple at that point, quite simple at that point. That you have energy, you have energy to relate with the actual current situation as it is. And at the same time energy constantly develops itself, as other creative situations occur around you. I don't see any particular conflict between the two at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Why isn't it-- obviously that, let's say in my state of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Why isn't the, say the wisdom or the benefits of this energy available to me now? I mean, if you know, it's just a matter of well, that it's here, because it's you know, it's there it's not there, or just a matter of… Is my question confusing [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seems very confusing, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=2538.0,2841.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Excuse me, are you saying that you're denying yourself? As you-- you mean, losing ego means to you like, denying yourself completely. That you are not *a*-- nothing. I don't think it's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: No, I do think that there is such a state of ego loss that exists where one can lose oneself completely--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Yeah, that--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: As, let's say, if you go up to certain [INAUDIBLE] and go to people who have no boundaries, who don't know where they are [INAUDIBLE] they thought, who don't experience--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I think it's very dangerous, kind of like you are really losing yourself. You're like lost. I don't know, then there will be no salvation, nothing. It's kind of going wrong direction.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yes, that's what I am wondering.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I think that you should keep-- I don't know. [Laughs] I think you should be-- \"A\" should be \"A\" and then feel from there. Not just denying, then just lost in the space, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE] [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Like I say \"I am me.\" \"I am me.\" I am me, but I shouldn't feel [INAUDIBLE] like, I-- if I say, \"I'm thirty, I want to be nineteen\", that's wrong way of ego. But I shouldn't say, \"I am thirty, now I am nothing.\" [Laughter] Because [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I couldn't make myself nineteen, that's the wrong kind of the wrong ego [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But aren't you also going to--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: But [INAUDIBLE] But if I lose my mind and then I am confused, who's-- \"who am I?\" [Laughing] That's wrong I think. I *should* know myself, because I am human being so-and-so, called so-and-so, and I am there because of this and this and that, and then, you know, this all wrong kind of ego as-- that what should [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I think I understand--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Now I am really *confused*, you know?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's good.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: [INAUDIBLE] no more philosophy, nothing. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=2841.0,2965.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: You know [INAUDIBLE] where, as I was listening to you, I think where I felt the confusion is that there is a difference very much in the way you use the word \"ego\" and the way it's used generally. Especially when you refer to it in conjunction with being [INAUDIBLE], or whatever. And it seems to me that when you say \"the egoless state,\" what you're saying that there's is a *conflict* [UNCLEAR: this state?] where you achieve a certain peace with yourself and come to terms with yourself. That's what *he* means when talking of the egoless state. Am I correct?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, egoless state is something that you are what you are. Beyond emotional conflict of any kind.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: You come to terms with it, that's what you mean. Is that right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Comes terms, what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: With yourself, in the way[INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean there's no-- nothing to come to terms with oneself at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Well, I think--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's just what *is*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: What *is*, but you have to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: --finally know yourself and you accept yourself that way [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, once you come to terms with oneself, that what you discover is that there's constantly impermanence going on with oneself. Everything is changing constantly. That's what self consist of -- is most everlasting situation of self is the most impermanent process that goes on with oneself. Which is changing all the time. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: [INAUDIBLE] [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=2965.0,3065.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: What is the place of conceptual thinking in maintaining the ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Conceptual maintaining oneself?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Thinking.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Either connected with the past or the future, which brings concepts. And there is no beyond that process at all. If we talk about conceptualized in terms of duality, that's either concerned with the past or the future. And constantly trying to hover between the two, trying to maintain oneself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=3065.0,3112.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: You spoke of impermanent situations that surround us. Where do the situation-- where does the situation leave off and we begin? Or, you know, what exactly goes into making a complete situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anytime, anytime. It's not a calculated situation at all, you see? It could happen anytime. Right now or tomorrow, day after tomorrow.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Yeah but there seems to be a separation between like-- between the self and the situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, there is. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: And I imagine the basic conclusion is this confusion of self with the situation thinking that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that could be anytime.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: But where does it lead? What is it that goes into making up a situation? I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: By confusion. And confusion brings wisdom. Just like that. [Snaps fan]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=3112.0,3191.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: The self seems to be where you are comfortable with, whereas you are not with ego. When I am responding to you, am I responding to your self ,or am I responding to the enlightenment which you are expressing through yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems at the same time that if you are involved with the certain basic qualities of achievement, then any kind of notion of achievement becomes futile.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Any what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Any kind of basic notion of achievement becomes ridiculous. Self can't achieve anything. Unless self becomes less self, or non-self, self cannot achieve anything at all. Because being itself is a big[UNCLEAR: bundle?], big hang-up. Self had to dissolve itself before it achieve anything. That's the basic logic which is extremely important to know that. Unless there's self, you can't achieve anything. If there is no self, then achievement is already there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=3191.0,3274.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Could you speak to us in a very practical way about how to go about meditating? Like what to focus on--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How to what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Go about meditating.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I thought that's all our seminar is based on. That should have gone through very slowly, in three days, but we have seminar process that we could get into it properly. That I would like to see individuals as personally, and we can work on it. Thank you. Yes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=3274.0,3314.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: I would like to ask you about the idea of reincarnation. And how literally is this meant to be understood as saying that one being is reincarnated into another, or whether it should be understood more in terms of energy, atoms which transmute themselves. And so that-- well, say that the way I can tend to understand it intuitively is that energy patterns manifest themselves in different ways, just transmute themselves all the time. And there is no implication that, say, one person is necessarily reincarnated into another person. But perhaps the energy that that person, sort of the effect that that person has-- is just transferred. And maybe that person is infused through a number of people, or in some other way.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Could you explain that? And could you also say something about the prevalence of the incarnations of [INAUDIBLE] in Tibet [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that fundamental idea of reincarnation is more of rebirth than reincarnation as such. That there is constant birth and death takes place constantly all the time. When you are born, you die constantly. You are thriving in the impermanence rather than oneness of something going on constantly. Impermanence of the birth and death is the continuous process that happens with our life situation. And in case of greater teachers or great saints, so to speak, who involve with the reincarnation process, is that they able to relate with their slowing down of their karmic force as it is. And they relate with it personally, slowing down karmic force, so the karmic force becomes more and more applicable in terms of their speed and their particular wish, desire to help other people. And seems to be quite simple. That physical birth and death is very crude example -- that there is constantly birth and death takes place all the time constantly, continuously all the time. That birth and death is not important in terms of reincarnation, but it's the continual process of impermanence, is the most important of all. Tend to happen constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=3314.0,3525.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93876/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well friends, we might-- should close our meeting. And thank you for being very patient in waiting for me. And we will meet tomorrow, our seminar. And those who are not attending seminar, I hope that we have started on something, sowing the seed. And maybe you are confused by the whole thing, but that's very useful thing to-- altogether. That we could work on that confusion. That you be sowing seed, and that confusion becomes extremely important to work on it. So dwell on that confusion.\r\n\r\n\r\nThank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Excuse me, anyone that has an interview with-- scheduled, or wants an interview, could they check on the bulletin board before going out?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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see?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=3141.1,3144.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93877/annotation/692","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It could happen anytime.\nRight now or tomorrow,\nday after tomorrow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192#t=3144.2,3149.87"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170310/file/309192/transcript/93877/annotation/693","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER14: Yeah but there seems\nto be a separation\nbetween 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