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The importance of friendship towards oneself on the bodhisattva path. Basis of second bhumi is relating to the physical world we experience with our senses. The world of form and our daily functional tasks as the source of discipline and also what we apply it to. This transcendental discipline naturally evolves from generosity of first bhumi, because one is open and can afford to be pure. Primordial purity contains an inherent respect for the earth. Conduct of bodhisattva at this stage is deliberate, spacious action, and working with others instead of trying to convert them.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Myth of Freedom","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 03"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: MYTH OF FREEDOM: Part 6: The Open Way: The Sanity of Earth\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-myth-of-freedom-and-the-way-of-meditation-1073.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 3 (in contained book MYTH OF FREEDOM)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-384.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eJun 20 2020 to Nov 27 2021 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Leandra Ziegler Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1972"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eOn the second bhumi, stainless (vimala in Sanskrit), involving the discipline (shila) paramita. The importance of friendship towards oneself on the bodhisattva path. Basis of second bhumi is relating to the physical world we experience with our senses. The world of form and our daily functional tasks as the source of discipline and also what we apply it to. This transcendental discipline naturally evolves from generosity of first bhumi, because one is open and can afford to be pure. Primordial purity contains an inherent respect for the earth. Conduct of bodhisattva at this stage is deliberate, spacious action, and working with others instead of trying to convert them.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/226/684/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1706553493","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1706553470_19720806VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":4063.39918,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/226/684/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1706553493","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/226/684/original/1706553470_19720806VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3?1706553473","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":4063.39918,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720806VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19720806VCTR1 - Public Seminar - RMDC - The Ten Bhumis - Talk 4]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. Seminar on The Ten Bhumis held at Rocky Mountain Dharma Center in Colorado. This will be talk four, August 6th, 1972. This is an ARP digital remaster made October 2006.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This is Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. Seminar on The Ten Bhumis, held in Livermore, Colorado in August 1972. This will be talk number four, August 6th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=0.0,32.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Idea of being friend in this case is very important, throughout *all* bodhisattva's practice; being friend with yourself. And when we talk about being friend with ourselves, there is also deceptive problem, self-deceptive problem. That is, some notion of selectively being friend with ourselves, rather than the total acceptance of what we are. Or else our negativity is being regarded as positivity, in the sense of deceptive fashion, rather than actually see the negativity as positivity, in the intrinsic way. But that \"my negativity is positivity because I don't believe in them. I would like to bypass it.\" That kind of a notion is a deceptive situation, in the bodhisattva's path. Because fundamentally bodhisattva is regarded as a very honest person, generous and honest to himself as well as to the others. As long as that honesty and generosity functions a hundred percent, as long as it doesn't become two hundred percent, then you keep the balance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=32.0,174.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tonight we discuss about discipline. [Laughs; laughter] Morality, whatever. Of the second bhumi of bodhisattva's path. That people who are not particularly acquainted with teachings of Buddha, or Buddhist teaching, might find it difficult to follow, the whole procedures of bodhisattva's activities, and its applications. But basically the Buddha's approach to life is: this is the only life that there is. Life as we experience, in the complete very detailed fashion, that life of sensory awareness, sense perceptions, including the mind which is regarded as the sixth sense perception, with heart or the brain or whatever you like to call it, depends on your cultural background. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=174.0,264.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would like to point this out very clearly to everyone. As Buddha's view are concerned, would like to apologize again, that being dogmatically that this is what Buddha had to say, and this is right. And that's subject to your own corrections, of your own dogma, or your own state of mind. But nevertheless it is true that Buddha said so. And information is passed on up to myself, in-- through the lineage. That idea of world-- the *other* world or this world, so to speak, that's been very popular thing, that has been developing, is that this world is the only world. That this world is world of form, world of form and name as we described, \"nama-rupa loka.\" \"The world of form and name.\" \"World of reality\" in that sense. As far as Buddha was concerned, he does not believe in any other outlandish world of any kind, outlandish world. Psychic phenomena, according to Buddha, is echo of this world. Whereas if you're trying to chase after the psychic phenomena, you're not relating with *this* world. Then we are at lost. It's as though children trying to find, grasp the root of the rainbow, where there's supposed to be gold underneath.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=264.0,419.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This has very much things to do with discipline, in this case. That discipline is put on the functional daily living: eating, shitting, sleeping, walking, being, whatever. *This* world is the source of discipline. So in other word we don't have to control the cosmic world, so-called cosmic world, or the other world. The world of auras, [laughs; laughter] or the world of psychic powers, or world of \"this\" and \"that\"; angels, hell beings, whatever. We could go through all kinds things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=419.0,484.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"From that point of view the discipline-- what I'm trying to say is the ground in which that our discipline or \"shila paramita\" could apply, we could only apply shila paramita in daily existence, rather than the phenomenal world. And once we try to put discipline or control magical power or whatever, onto the phenomenal world then we lose the track of the physical world, and we are on the verge of madness. Not only verge, but we are *in* madness in fact. It's rather heavy. [Laughs] However, it seem to be necessary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=484.0,537.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"From Buddha's point of view, the world is consist of form, emotions, feeling, perceptions, intellect -- five skandhas. That's the only world does exist. That's *the* world. Any kind of projections or imprint we might find out from these five skandhas are regarded as phantom. But at the same time five skandhas also regarded as a mirage or \"maya\", whatever you like to call it; illusion. But that's depends on the grasp of the ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=537.0,593.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we have shila paramita. \"Shila\" literally means the-- means \"discipline\" or \"morality.\" \"Paramita\" is \"transcendental\" -- transcending the crude morality, discipline into the highly sophisticated, highly realized, highly enlightened discipline. Which is connected with the bodhisattva of the second bhumi. The name of second bhumi is called \"the spotless one,\" \"trima mepa,\" or that of \"complete pure.\" Reason why bodhisattva arrives to this particular conclusion of second bhumi from the first bhumi of generosity, and the delightful situation, is because he could afford to be open, he could afford to be spotlessly clean, pure. It has nothing to do with purifying painfully, or ambition of being pure. He begin to realize generosity brings purity automatically, so that's why the second bhumi automatically become natural situation. In other word, that we cannot say that \"you are on second bhumi\" and \"you are on third bhumi or the first bhumi.\" We can't categorize people in that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=593.0,697.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But people already experience the joy of the first bhumi has inclination towards purity, from that sense. It's like growing a tree. So we can't say that \"this tree is now ten years old or five years old.\" In some sense, that we cannot celebrate bodhisattva's birthday party of this \"he's coming to the next second bhumi or celebrating; he's a jolly good chap.\" [Laughter] Not that kind of heroism. It's evolutionary growth, very slowly and surely happens. So that it would be wrong to label somebody that \"you are on this and this stage.\" Basically that spiritual practice as concerned, that nobody is being told that \"you are now on the second bhumi or third bhumi, or you just about to attain enlightenment tomorrow,\" or whatever. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=697.0,783.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, second bhumi of \"spotlessness\", \"trima mepa\", \"purity\", \"clean.\" In the sense of acknowledging *primordial* purity, rather than just temporary application is proved your existence. Which would be like applying detergent on your natural situation. And that kind of extraordinary-- external detergent, package-deal purity, does not clean the basic stream of existence at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=783.0,843.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Something just occurred to me by the way, which has nothing to do with this subject, is if anybody would like to take notes of these details or whatever, you are welcome -- and maybe it's good for you to do, and later on you can look back on it, and it might be helpful. I'm afraid that so many categories and so many details that we have to introduce, and that's the problem that we have to face. In the sense of that the lineage, or the experience of the teaching situation, had tried to work very hard to relate with the students. And consequently by trying to relate with the students, that automatically had to put in a systematic pattern, which is not only systematic in a technical but some kind of landmark had to be put out, which is necessary. And your note will be also landmark in some sense, which would be good, if you get together tomorrow. Take notes, that would be good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=843.0,924.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Coming back to the subject [laughs]. The purity of bodhisattva in this case, of \"shila paramita\", \"discipline, morality,\" is based on making friend with yourself, loving yourself. That you are not any more nuisance to yourself. That you are company to yourself, inspiration to yourself. That kind of sense of creative situation is very powerful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=924.0,961.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, because of that inspiration of bodhisattva, that you come to the basic morality situation, that you are-- you become part of the examples of good conduct of bodhisattva. That any other temptations become irrelevant, in other word. It's not question of that's he's trying to stick to a particular law and regulation-- regulation, and trying to meet-- trying to behave lawfully, as such as all. But he find himself that getting into that direction naturally, organically, doing so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=961.0,1017.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This kind of organic situation comes naturally, spontaneously, in relationship to-- there is only one world: world of form, physical world. There's no psychic world from that sense, as such, as independent of the physical world. So the bodhisattva has completely pure and precise guideline, of how that he should relate with process, clearly and precisely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=1017.0,1092.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because of bodhisattva's confidence onto the world of form and name, therefore that bodhisattvas find no \"mystifying\" situation, no-- there's no mystification, because there are no area of un-surveyed situation exists anymore, from that sense. As far as the true bodhisattva is concerned, there's no psychic phenomena is involved at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=1092.0,1133.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the scriptures, supposedly the idea of psychic phenomena, that people would like to relate with it, is regarded as old shoe. Your impression-- you've worn it, the shoe has your shape of your foot, rather than shoe itself, as you bought it from the market, before at the beginning before you've worn it. And it's mold into your shape of your foot, and it become part of you, then you decide to take it off and buy another shoe. And it is trying to relate with your past, old shoe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=1133.0,1197.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bodhisattva's approach to morality from that sense, therefore it is without any exits or any scapegoats. Since old shoe is irrelevant, that he had related with the straight and narrow path, direct path, all the time; that the path of name and form -- or the ground of name and form rather, and he relate with it as accordingly as path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=1197.0,1232.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The sense of joy of the first bhumi, to the second bhumi brings automatically positive attitude; that samaya or the shila of discipline, whatever, is welcoming home. Somebody is creating a beautiful home and welcoming, rather than that you have to trying to fit yourself into it, struggle into it, to strap yourself into that dogma, as such, at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=1232.0,1272.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the morality as far as the bodhisattva is concerned is natural situation, that any unskillful situation becomes irrelevant for the bodhisattva, of the second bhumi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=1272.0,1289.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There seems to be several types of shila, or discipline, morality is involved. Is also connected with welcoming. The one is known as \"gathering of the virtue, \"ge-wa chodu tsultrim,\" \"gathering of the virtue.\" Which is connected with \"relating with the things as they are,\" physically. Because bodhisattva is well-trained on the path of shamatha practice, vipashyana practice already, so therefore bodhisattva's relation to the cup of tea, is not to knock out, but use it, pick it up and drink it, put it down properly. There's no frivolousness involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=1289.0,1352.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is even mentioned in the scriptures of Bodhisattvacharyavatara, of the scriptures of Bodhisattvacharyavatara, talks about, when bodhisattvas on the second bhumi decide to relax, decide to sit down on the ground, he does not make doodles with the dust on the ground. I'm sure we could go on discussing about the mentality of that, is of course it's obvious, in a sense. The restlessness of making doodles, rather than that making doodles are the sin for bodhisattva's practice as such at all, but the restlessness of that you are trying to please yourself with another entertainments or whatever, is irrelevant from bodhisattva's approach. That he is sitting there just being there. And in fact it would be tremendously demanding for him to try to make doodles. [Laughter] Such effort is involved, making doodles. But on the other hand I hope you don't take it too personally [laughter], that those who make doodles are not potential bodhisattvas. Somehow doesn't work that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=1352.0,1456.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But the idea is that if person is well-trained in the basic relationship of their mind, their whole being, being there, they have a personal feelings about things. If you are electronic, or if you are cameraman [laughs], or whatever you are, that you have feeling for the things, as it is, not as a gadget. And you don't just fool around with your gadgets. Just be there and relate with it personally. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=1456.0,1505.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The whole symbolism, or the analogy of this particular bodhisattva's approach is related with that bodhisattva is being on earth, that he is *realizing* that he is on earth. He respect the earth. And frivolousness does not become a hangup anymore, but in fact trying to become frivolousness is arduous to him. So there's a sort of old dog quality, Sitting Bull quality. You are being there precisely, properly, but making another move is a move of frivolousness. That doesn't necessarily have to be-- mean that one have to be afraid of moving about. That kind of paranoia is not exist in the bodhisattva's style of living, at all. It becomes spontaneous situation, of the bodhisattva. In other word there is a tremendous energy in the bodhisattva's path and his practice. But he would not give in to sudden energy upheaval, or outburst. It's complete picture of sanity up to the level of being somewhat deliberate, in some way. But that deliberateness has also element of spaciousness, in the bodhisattva's action. That is the conduct of the bodhisattva.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=1505.0,1630.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the other conduct of bodhisattva is being delight in the situation of working with the people, rather than relating with the people as that, \"They need reforming, or they need transformation, because they don't fit my pattern of philosophy or idea.\" Rather, accept as they are in a fresh situations. So in other word, it is saying the same thing. Bodhisattva has no dogma. That is why bodhisattvas will be able to relate with the people. And that is precisely why the bodhisattvas are not regarded as evangelistic people, drunken in conversion-- converting other people into your trip, or whatever. And if somebody's completely determined to convert them into your particular trip, scene, whatever, then there's some neurosis of proving yourself, that you distrust yourself originally, by making somebody to believe and telling them how wrong, how fucked up they are, automatically suggests that *they* need some reinforcement. In other word they are more fucked up than the other person, who need to be converted into [laughs], and that's rather complicated switching logic, but still it is so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=1630.0,1741.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in other word, when we talk about the heroism of the bodhisattva the other day, yesterday, the heroism is a delight in himself, rather than that he want to convert other people's lifestyle situations. Rather the bodhisattva work with *their* lifestyle, their existence, as it is, and trying to speak *their* language and work with it. So in other word bodhisattva would not expect the other people become replica of themselves, at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=1741.0,1773.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this requires a tremendous discipline, to being that way. You have a sudden impulse to -- even though you're a bodhisattva, of second bhumi in this case -- even so you have a tremendous impulse [laughter] to trying to tell people how things ought to be, but then even that things how ought to be, you feel how much you are close to the teachings of the dharma. That one begin to realize that is expression of your insecurity in being the bodhisattva's path. So bodhisattvas regarded that as some manure experience, rather than something that you have to put out, to convert people into your side. Because bodhisattvas do not need any reinforcement from that sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could stop there. Discussions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=1773.0,1833.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, in BLACK ELK SPEAKS, Black Elk describes visions in which he traveled to places of awesome clarity, and said that compared to where he was, that this world was -- I believe he used the term a \"shadow\", or something like that. This world was a mere shadow of the other world that he-- where he was. And I wondered, if this type of teaching is in complete contradiction to what mentioned about the Buddha teaching about this world here being the only world.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. The point there is that... the idea of-- there's a tremendous reference made to *this* world at the same time, constantly. Without that you can't make reference to the other world, which is pure \"maya,\" \"illusion.\" Buddha talks great deal about illusion, dualistic perception of seeing \"double vision\" so to speak. Schizophrenic approach, is being regarded as a psychological hang-up.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut point there is that in order to prove the other world -- whatever that may be -- you have to relate with this world fully and properly, you have to live in this world completely, first. The other world is precise and clear. This world may be shadow. Of course that's true in some sense, but at the same time shadow becomes more important, more powerful. You can't have a shadow without the reflection on the other side. And I think it's very earthy approach, from that sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=1833.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, what is the nature of being on the other side, of a problem or phenomenon of samsara? Is it a new consciousness or clarity? What change takes place in going through?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To the other...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: To the other side of a situation, in which you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean the paramita, idea of the other shore?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The other-- yes, the other shore, of a particular personal situation, phenomenon, or samsara itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's the...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What change takes place in he who goes through that situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't say particularly \"change\", or a transformation in the literal sense. But you could say that it is-- other shore is related with sanity. And this shore is supposedly related with the insanity. And from insanity's point of view that other thing is some \"thingy\" there [laughter]. But once you get on the other shore, you regard the insanity as also the other thing there, on the other side. So in other words that they are both complementary: that you can't have samsara without nirvana, nirvana without samsara, they are complimentary.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, on the whole that whole thing is regarded as this, it is not a battle anymore. It is a way of co-existing two polarities. So the experience being on the other shore does not become particularly extraordinary anymore at all. But you see the *other* shore, then. In which that's the idea of compassion, because when you're being the other shore, of the bodhisattva's way, then you see the other shore of the samsara. And because of that you able to relate with the people and as personally, identify yourself with them. So whole thing becomes very simple at that point. And it doesn't become particularly any revelatory experience at all, but it's just a factual situation at that point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche--? [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=1980.0,2154.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Would you say that a lot of what's called psychic phenomenon is just more stuff that goes on here in this world, but isn't seen a lot of the time? That if you are able to see like auras or whatever, and not regard it as anything particularly mysterious, but just see it. And it's not even psychic phenomena to you then, it's just more stuff. Then you-- then it's not insanity.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Then it's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Then it-- then you wouldn't [INAUDIBLE] [laughter].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's true: it's a question of how you relate with this world, in the fullest sense, complete sense. I mean you could experience that you are feeling somebody else's thoughts, for instance take example. That's not regarded as a miracle particularly, because that's a factual situation. If you are open person, you are being there, automatically you pick up other person thoughts, not as magic but just happens, just being there. So, we do not have to particularly try to prove that this should be something extraordinary situation at all. It's very simple existence.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=2154.0,2263.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche? In elaboration on her question, one extra-- one path-- one step further, keeping in mind that the psychic phenomena is still part of the natural world, as much as let's say a glass is, can a bodhisattva strive to develop these powers, as an honorable goal? Keeping in mind that it's not *the* utmost goal, but [laughter] [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean a bodhisattva is very -- what's the word -- [UNCLEAR: scrupulous? unscrupulous?] from that sense. That he relate with things directly and literally. He would regard any extra-sensorial situations are being ordinary sensorial situation. They are not extraordinary thing; in fact they [UNCLEAR: hardly? highly?] does exist. And you could say that if you see a cup of tea front of you, that's very magical as far as bodhisattva is concerned. As much as natural phenomena; same term, if there is one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=2263.0,2361.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: What's the difference between-- you referred-- I can understand when you say that the psychic world is like an echo. And then you said that the phenomenal world is like real, like solid. And I can sort of understand that. But then you come across in practically every Buddhist book that's been written -- which I haven't read all of them [laughter] -- but this-- they say that-- they always say that the phenomenal world is the world of maya, and it's illusion. And you said that it's the world of like reality or concrete. And they always say in the other books that you should deal with it, but that it's-- you shouldn't like give it your complete allegiance, or some kind of feeling like that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's true, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well how do you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean that's very important point; in fact, I'm trying to raise that point. Is that phenomenal world, which is *this* world, that we are in sitting in the tent. I'm sitting on a chair. Because I'm doing so, or you are doing so, we are doing so in the tent, therefore it is illusion. It's *super*-illusion. Because there's nothing to hang onto, as a reference point, point of reference anymore at all. It's just spontaneously existing phenomena. The world is seen as a phenomena, from that point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: The point usually in the-- is that it goes away, and that's why that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, because the-- our approach to phenomenal world is very fickle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=2361.0,2487.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, it would seem to me that the bodhisattva approach is an extremely *practical* -- if it could choose a word -- extremely practical approach to be able to-- in living. Maybe, is this how it-- when you said that the beginning of the path is the end of the path at the time, is because of the super-practicality? Is that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what's said, yeah. That's precisely the idea of \"upaya\", or \"skillful means.\" Is that you don't reject anything in the world, as garbage pail, but you accept everything as a workable situations. That's why even the garbage becomes manure. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=2487.0,2532.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche, if the bodhisattva finds it an exertion to be frivolous, why do, at least I find it, an exertion to not be frivolous? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's could be could said frivolous as well. Because you're trying to rebounds something else isn't there, therefore you're trying to meet that energy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I don't understand. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=2532.0,2568.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Rinpoche, you said some heavy things about madness, way back when you started. You said that psychic phenomena when applied to this phenomenal world can result or be related to madness, and I'd like you to say some more about that. For example, Don Juan the Yaqui Indian, who did some fancy things to Carlos Casteneda. [Laughter] At the end of A SEPARATE REALITY, you know Castaneda is in a pretty crazy world. And at the same time I somehow did not believe that Don Juan was not a frivolous man. Could you comment on this, and say what is madness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's very simple, in terms of madness is that you believe in the double vision, you see double. The idea of madness that the mad people -- or whatever you like to call it, the super-mad people -- and their perceptions is not *one* perception at all. It's conflicting perceptions they are trying to struggle, therefore one does not know how to relate with any items that occurred in your experiences. Therefore the madness is losing complete ground with the earth. That's the definition of madness. Where else that if you see an expression of things, like Don Juan talks about the egg.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Rinpoche, it's the radiant egg.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: The luminous egg.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Luminous. What was called, the...\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: The fibers.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The fibers, yeah. I mean that wouldn't regard as madness; it's factual situation. In fact, it is not that he is seeing luminous egg of everybody, but everybody's egg-like situation. In some sense that painting psychological picture of somebody, that you look like dog, or pig, or whatever, you know, you like to call it. But you don't really mean they're a pig or dog literally. But there is the expression of pig-ness or dog-ness in them [laughter], somewhat. It is true to say, and you could believe in it. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=2568.0,2712.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Where would you place a borderline phenomena, such as, I don't know, I'd like to ask you, are these true, the reports of \"tummo\", generating body heat, or \"lung gompa\" by running fantastic distances?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that is regarded as a phantom, but they're just a result of continual practice, that you begin to realize that you're independent enough not to wear heavy clothes, whatever. You know, that's very factual situation. It's not regarded as magic at all. That's the problem. If you regard all things as magic that within our-- beyond our realm of being in central-heated apartment, of course it's magic! [Laughter] But in actual fact somebody could do it, factually, so it cease to become magic. It's workable situation, for anybody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=2712.0,2759.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Rinpoche, [INAUDIBLE] elaborate a bit further on why the topic of magic or psychic phenomena is part of or comes up in the lecture on discipline. I'm just not sure where these-- why does-- we do we talk about psychic phenomena under the heading of discipline?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because there's all kinds of sidetracks involved, with the believing in phenomenal, or the extraordinary phenomenal situations. And the bodhisattva's practice is based on purely relating with the world of form and name, name and form. So there's no sidetracks involved with the bodhisattva's approach, that it is purely living day-to-day life, and how to brew a cup of tea properly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=2759.0,2810.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Rinpoche, what does the bodhisattva do with his old shoes?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He doesn't have any.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: What did he do with them? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He cooked them and ate them. [Laughter; applause] Charlie Chaplin movie. [Laughter; laughs] He's being very practical. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=2810.0,2852.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Rinpoche, could you speak something about the problem of when ego starts coming to nest in the doctrine, when the language and the vocabulary start to become the home for ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that seem to be very obvious thing, in the basic situation that it seems we all react against any church-like red tape situation. And the whole approach is purely based on relating experientially. Or else that the word or the guideline or the menu of the experience, that you might experience, is regarded as your doctrine. It's like difference between somebody who cooked food, and somebody who spend their life in composing menus in the restaurant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=2852.0,2930.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Does the discipline in the physical world require elimination of physical toxins, such as city air or tobacco or alcohol or things like this?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Discipline from that sense is whatever is situated in the right situation, as far as the bodhisattva's approach is concerned. That his own relationship to his world. And the sense of dogma does not apply anymore at all. Like, we have standardized rules and regulations, that is being circulated, and told what's the perfect image of a good citizen. And quite possibly bodhisattva's won't be good citizen from that point of view, because he uses his own judgment, he use his own way of relating with the things, as it is. So until that his extra occupations, or entertainments become irrelevant, that automatically drops. In other word smoking cigarettes for a bodhisattva, he don't have to give up, but cigarettes begin to give *him* up. He doesn't have to drink, but drinking the alcohol is begin to give him up. And that kind of situation, because he is willing to relate with any situations. And situations begin to give him up, rather than he had to make, \"I am giving this up and I want to take purity in instead.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=2930.0,3045.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Does Buddhism offer any specific ideas on how to go about making friends with yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There is no mantra, or magic potion to smoke or drink. But it's basically that relating with your whole being is positive person, that you're not originally condemned person anymore. You are experience of valid situation and valuable situation, and sacred at the same time. And that kind of attitude automatically brings the life is worth living. Then you go from there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: But isn't self hatred and fear of life a tremendous obstacle to the development of that attitude?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you regard it as a problem, of course, but if you regard as a concept then it has put a problem into second degree. When you say \"problem\" in the first flash, that is the problem, the negative attitude of that it's going to overcome us, or going to challenge us, in other word, challenge us. And that's being problematic situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd then we have the energy to deal with it as well at the same time, so we have handful of all kinds of confused situations involved, that point. So if you don't regard it as a problem, as a hangup, or whatever, whereas if you relate with the things as it is, directly, literally, then they cease to become problem but they cease to become-- they tend to become workable situations.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Rinpoche...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=3045.0,3172.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Would you like to talk?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: How do you relate the bodhisattva concept of living and working with sentient beings to Milarepa's experience of *leaving* the world of sentient beings, and living in solitude and to attain the dharma though such vigorous application of practice? And his repeated urging other disciples to do the same thing, and often referring to friends and family and homeland as \"the devil's own prison\"? Which he refers to in The 100,000 Songs [of Milarepa].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The point there is that if you relate with your being situation, your homeland, your relatives, or your source of seduction, as a basic source of attachment -- I should explain much more cultural background in Tibet, connected with Milarepa. And the whole thing, is that... [unknown incident or gesture] [laughter] that basically culturally that there's no family conflict. In other word there is no juvenile delinquency at that time in Tibet. And they love their mama and daddy [laughter], sisters and everything; it's very inviting, beautiful situation. And which is very attractive situation to be in; it's complete nest. And disregarding that security is a very powerful thing to do.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd at the same time, as Milarepa's practice went in progress, beginning he had to relate with his Marpa, his teacher. And with the time of his further development in the caves, that he can't cut off people at all. The first message of Milarepa's way of relating with the people was that particular story of that, hunters who are coming to the cave to collect feather, and they found a very interesting person there [laughter], and begin to explore him. And next thing is somebody else comes up. And because those situations went on and on, in other word Milarepa didn't actually run *away* from all those situations, which he could, but he gave himself into those. And he sat with them, he talked to them. But at that same time if their hospitality becomes too demanding: \"Be our patron and live with us, and I'm going to feed you, you have room to live in. And be part of our whole scene,\" and he rejected. But at the same time this kind of acceptance went on all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nWhich means in other word the situation in Milarepa's life brought him back to relating with the world constantly on and on. So in the finally that Milarepa become very famous, that millions of people heard about, including in Nepal. That people heard \"there was a great saint called Milarepa who sings a lot, and he related with his teachers -- his students in other word. And his fame went beyond of his own existence, including America, at this point. That if he want to draw back his world, that the inspiration Milarepa wouldn't be here at all, because it would be bad for his spiritual practice. But at that point that his spiritual practice is a way of opening himself, rather than holding onto particular nest or cave. Situation forced him this way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=3172.0,3479.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: I was tremendously impressed by the orthodoxy of your introductory remarks [laughter], and the-- this worldliness which you postulated. And I feel that with that you probably wiped out about ninety percent of all Buddhist trips throughout the world, which have been so over-charged with arcane, supernatural, occult baggage. But historically [laughter], the harshness of teaching, which the world, the Buddhist world, has not been able to accept. And over the centuries--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not able to accept what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER 18: The harshness of this worldliness--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I see, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: --of the teaching.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: --and as you go through the teachings over the centuries, it becomes more and more baroque. The cosmologies develop become more and more wild until you finally culminate in the western paradise and the Pure Land sects, which is very, very far removed from what you talked about in your introductory remarks. Now is it possible [laughter] for us to realize this worldliness, without really facing up to the enormous pain which this experience presents to all and everyone? The Buddha wanted us to stay in this worldliness, but apparently, for even Easterners it was not possible, and all this fantasizing, going into other directions, going to the Pure Land of the western paradise resulted. [Laughter] You expect us to wipe all this out and start out with the original teaching.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the point is that the worldliness of the world of name and form goes with us all the time, wherever we are. There is the story of Buddha relating with his disciples, and a devotee king had dreamt that elephant got out of the window, but his tail couldn't get out of the window, got stuck. And Buddha predicted that as his future followers who couldn't get out of the family land, family environment, or the home environment, worldly environment, but still that his ashrams or viharas would be regarded as home, so that's why tail got stuck.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd in a similar situation that wherever you go it is like the analogy of a tortoise carrying its own shell. That according to the karmic descriptions of things, that the landlords will be reborn as tortoise, because he carries his own house on his back. That kind of analogy; carrying your own security on the back. But in any case I think that the idea of relating with world of name and form is always there, that you can't escape from that. But at the same time we could get into world of world. And we could relate with the world as it is. And that becomes source of inspiration. In other word we could say that without this world, that there's no Christ or Buddha, to inspire them. That we should be very thankful to existence of this nuisance world, which we regard as nuisance. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=3479.0,3736.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Rinpoche, in speaking of the manure of experience, aren't there some negativities that are poisonous? And if so, how can we deal with them skillfully?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the point is if you regard as a manure, that's the whole approach, whereas if you regard as food, of course it's poisonous, to eat manure. [Laughter] That's the whole point, of manure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=3736.0,3779.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Rinpoche, without-- for us beginners this world of pain seems to-- it can become a very heavy thing. It brings up a question that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What heavy thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Pain, that we're faced with, can be a very heavy thing. There's a question that came up at least two different sep-- discussion groups over the past few days, about how sense of humor fits into all of this, and maybe the difference between or distinction between laughter that relates to our nervousness and pain, or laughter that relates to the earthy quality of what is. Could you say something about sense of humor?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that's the whole approach is very simple, in fact. A sense of humor is that you-- when you want to make something very static, something very solid, and like you want to freeze something you experience into a workable situation, like icicles, would act as a support for us temporarily. Then it becomes a nuisance in the long run, or deceptive in the long run in other word.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat if you approach things as a flowing situation, humorous situation, which means not exactly making appropriate puns or jokes, on the spot, but it's a question of seeing things in its relationship of spontaneously-existing cynical. [Laughter] Things do happen that way. It is *there*. And if we have a certain attitude to that, of willing to admit ourselves to that kind of open space to invite us take part in this humor, it becomes very simple one. The world doesn't become very heavy-handed anymore, and the world consists of \"that\" and \"this,\" but including world as \"that\" and \"this,\" where \"that-ness\" of the world becomes humorous from point of view of \"this-ness\" of the world. But on the other hand \"this-ness\" of world becomes humorous from \"that-ness\" of the world. And it seem to be very cynical approach in somewhat, but it is very *real* approach in other word.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=3779.0,3928.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Rinpoche it seems though, that very cynicism can get in the way, you know, it can be-- I don't know, it seems that it can be-- produce a sort of cloudiness. Is it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's depending on how much you relate with the whole thing as a deep-rooted cynicism, or spontaneous cynicism. Which is quite different. In other word a visual situation or impulsive situation of cynicism. That you get a certain inspiration which is beautiful, but if you relate that with-- as a-- in connected with holding grudge against the world, then your cynicism becomes deathly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Is that where deliberateness comes in?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Deliberate one, yeah, complaining.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=3928.0,3976.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: But you said then-- excuse me. During your talk today you spoke about the action of the bodhisattva being deliberate. You said \"deliberate but spacious.\" And that use of the word \"deliberate\" surprised me--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seem to be different this point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Deliberateness from the other point of cynicism that we been talking about is holding grudge against world. That \"world is really terrible. I would like to revenge on the world, including my parents or whatever.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Yeah, I think I see that, but I didn't understand in the context of a bodhisattva's action.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Bodhisattva's action from this point of view is very simple. That it is basic, in the sense of it has a relationship with the earth, but at the same time it is very spacious because relating with the earth does not become a big deal to the bodhisattva.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=3976.0,4041.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64029/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We might have to adjourn our spiritual gathering here. Thank you. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=4041.0,4063.39918"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64030","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720806VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64030/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE:\nThis is the Venerable Chogyam\nTrungpa 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1972.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=7.84,10.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64030/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital remaster\nmade October 2006.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684#t=11.84,16.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121543/file/226684/transcript/64030/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE:\nThis is Chogyam\nTrungpa 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