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Before the mandala can be built, beings in the charnel ground must learn to work with others and establish a social order based on compassion, or karuna. Expands on the previous two talks, further describing humans as infantile beings who roam the charnel ground, coming into contact with one another and realizing there are billions of other infants wandering around with the same confusion. We must learn to communicate and sort out social problems. This causes resentment and hassles, but also allows sanity to grow. Karuna develops by looking inward and working with ourselves first -- developing our own \"soft spot\" -- before extending compassion to others. Q\u0026amp;A Highlight: [Q10] Description of the mandala principle as the \"map of enlightenment.\""]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["AUDIOCD: Mandala Principle and the Three Yanas (Kalapa Media, out-of-print)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Nov 06 2018 to Dec 01 2020\nTranscribing: Matilda Perks\nChecking: Ella Milligan\nFinal Proof: Travis May, Ella Milligan\nTerminology Review: Matilda Perks\nOther Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1976"]}}],"summary":{"en":["The mahayana approach to the mandala principle. Before the mandala can be built, beings in the charnel ground must learn to work with others and establish a social order based on compassion, or karuna. Expands on the previous two talks, further describing humans as infantile beings who roam the charnel ground, coming into contact with one another and realizing there are billions of other infants wandering around with the same confusion. We must learn to communicate and sort out social problems. This causes resentment and hassles, but also allows sanity to grow. Karuna develops by looking inward and working with ourselves first -- developing our own \"soft spot\" -- before extending compassion to others. Q\u0026amp;A Highlight: [Q10] Description of the mandala principle as the \"map of enlightenment.\""]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/283/816/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1754168262","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1754168244_19760320vctr1-audio-prod-archrmstr-access.mp3"]},"duration":2887.57663,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/283/816/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1754168262","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/283/816/original/1754168244_19760320vctr1-audio-prod-archrmstr-access.mp3?1754168245","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2887.57663,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82219","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19760320VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82219/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19760320VCTR1 - Public Seminar - NYC - Mandala Principle and the Three Yanas - Talk 3]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. Seminar entitled, The Mandala Principle and the Three Yanas, held in New York City. This is talk number three, \"Working with Others\" held March 20th, 1976. This is an ARP digital remaster made August, 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This is the third talk in the series, The Mandala Principle and the Three Yanas, given in New York City in March of 1976, by Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. This particular talk is entitled, \"Working with Others\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=0.0,58.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82219/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like to continue what we have discussed last night, and carry on, so to speak, further. What we going to do, when we begin to realize that we are our world-- we are our own world? What we going to do with *that*? We feel our own alone-ness, loneliness, we feel our own experiences, we feel our own individualities; nevertheless we are still an infant, listening to sound of crunch of the sand that we chew between our teeth, and whistling wind, and a change of light. It seems to be quite snug in some sense -- that we could turn into *savage* at that point. We could imitate the jackals, and the vampires, and corpse, and what have you around. But *somehow* the situation doesn't let us do that. That we begin to realize when we look around us, that we begin to find, there are *more* other infants like you roaming around, all over the place. You are not just being happy with animals, and happy with nature alone. We find thousands and millions of billions, trillions people around us also going through the same kind of trip.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=58.0,203.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82219/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There has to be some kind of social order. There has to be some kind of pattern. There has to be some kind of *communication* between fellow babies. That's what's known as the mahayanist path. And mahayana, being, the great path, greater vision, greater insight. Somehow there has to be some notion of that, we are not trying to purely save our souls, but we have a reference point -- at large -- sociologically, publicly speaking. For example: that the announcement you just heard right now, that people find-- some people find frightening. And begin to say, \"Why can't be just simple and me and you, and have a nice time?\" And people *afraid*. They imagine now that things are getting complicated and big, there will be possibilities for developing a cosmic monster that beyond your control, just like the skyscrapers that grows up in the city. And people afraid, because the situation that has been evolved will control them, rather than they would have control over others.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=203.0,366.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82219/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But generally people afraid of because when there is a group, sanity begin to grow, begin to evolve. It is basically people afraid because they wouldn't have a chance to play their little tricks on each other. If it's a smaller group, it's more manageable. And they would have chance to lay their neurosis to others and analyze each other, father each other, and mother each other, being lover to each other. Those things are very cozy. \"It would be fantastic if there's just you and me in this world, but nobody else. In this world, how terrifying and problematic they surround us may be, but would be such nice thing to have, if we could only be alone and play on each other.\" That might make you angry, when I say that, or frustrated, uncomfortable. However, but that is the situation here. That we have to have *some* kind of social order. And we are not the only one, and you and I are not the only one in this universe. There are masses of others who also have same kind of conflict, problem, confusion, all kinds, taking place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=366.0,501.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82219/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The basic notion of mahayana is to experience the pain of rejection, pain of claustrophobia, and pain of personal hassle, of *all* kinds. That nobody is personally deprived, at all; everybody is in their own wretched place -- or for that matter fortunate place. In this cosmos, nobody had achieved the ideal happiness, success conquering over pain -- problems. So the bodhisattva's approach here is: instead of being so afraid and so jealous, so angry, that we could afford to give an inch -- to begin with. That's what's called \"compassion\", \"karuna\". And we don't give an inch, to begin with, to others; still we are tied up, in our own body and mind like a metallic muscle in us. But interesting point here is that we can actually turn inward first, by experiencing working with our own aggression, and our own sense of sympathy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=501.0,685.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82219/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"According to the scriptures that it is been said, that even those animals who are extraordinarily aggressive, vicious, still care for their young. And even them-- even they have some sense of soft spot in them. Likewise, whole human beings may appear to be aggressive, hopeless, but there is always soft spot, in us. That we don't have to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=685.0,733.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82219/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"believe and convinced by our own savageness, at once, and carrying out your faith to the extent, destroying others and yourself simultaneously. So the sense of soft spot is however that you are resentful and confused, there is always there is compassion, which is also known as buddha nature.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=733.0,788.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82219/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The infants, on this charnel ground, being hassled because they begin to notice the other infants around you -- they are not the only one. They are not only the child of the charnel ground, and not fortunate enough to be one, but there are also *others* -- and you suddenly get resentful, to others. The territory, sense of aggression, sense of poverty, that they might eat up your prey, food. They might sleep in the place you found cozy. They might be looking at the same stars that you are looking at. They might be having a good sleep, while you are having difficulties. They might be hearing the delicious sound of crunching sand in your mouth, and while you think you are the only person who discovered that and the others doing the same thing. And we are afraid to organization, society, working with others. We are *so* resentful. And mahayanist approach to compassion, as we discussed is turn in first, and as we turn in, and then we begin to-- can turn out and work with others. Quite simply.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=788.0,936.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82219/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The long-term project here, on this charnel ground, is to build three-dimension mandala, or castle, palace, which represents the dignity and the power and sanity of the three yana principle. But, at this point, we are simply trying to sort out the social problems. The working with the citizens, so to speak. That there has to be some kind of social order, there has to be some kind of social understanding, and there has to be some kind of love affair, with each other, in the sense of a compassionate nature, wakeful nature. Without that, we can't do anything. Then we become one of the jackals, one of the vampires in the charnel ground. There will be no time for death: when you are sick and helpless, and you can't defend yourself, another vulture or jackal come along and eat you up. So what we are talking here is some kind of enlightened fashion of respectability.\r\n\r\n\r\nI don't want to confuse further, but this is good enough, at this point, and maybe you could have discussion on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=936.0,1084.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82219/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, is it a question of developing one's own soft spot, sense of compassion? Or if one doesn't do this, does one become a jackal or a vulture or raven? Or is one that anyway?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that seem to be the case that there is a need to develop soft spot in oneself first. You *can* develop exterior soft spot, so to speak, and then you become slimy and angry underneath, so that doesn't help very much. That becomes another form of deception -- deadly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But if one doesn't develop it, one becomes a--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --an animal.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As simple as that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=1084.0,1155.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82219/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The first night you spoke, I gathered that we were all jackals and ravens, and from what you say tonight, I gather that we might not be. And I'm wondering if that's because it would be too good if we were, because then we'd know what we were, and actually we're alien from that, and we still have to find what we are. Is that the case?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, when we're talking about first step: you are jackal, you are bitch, you are snake, what have you. But, beyond that level -- in other word, we are saying that we are *all* animals, has animal instinct, basically speaking. But beyond that level, that we have particular characteristics, which there is possibilities of becoming one of those, or becoming something else -- as the situation begin to grow, become more personalized. That first we have set up of our mind, our mental world, and then we begin to set up our physical situation and our intelligent, and we begin to become slightly different than purely animals.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=1155.0,1277.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82219/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: There seems to be a possibility for this kind of practice and this kind of development when we're working with each other, but somehow or other -- I have found anyway in my own experience -- that if you step outside of the immediate sangha, where the jackals really *do* come along and eat you. And there's a certain way in which you're vulnerable, that becomes... unworkable. And I don't know how to contend with that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's up to you: whether you let them wild or whether you work with them. There's known-- it is known that you can tame wild animals even.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: It's dangerous procedure. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's what we've done with our horses and cats and dogs, *and ourselves*, and even made into enlightened. There are a lot of choices.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=1277.0,1351.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82219/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: This is sort of a follow up on Tulsi's question, but it seems that the social order, that sort of political theory says that is created because men are sort of beasts. And that we have to band together because otherwise we’ll-- everyone will steal from each other. That kind of social contract thing is sort of the way that society is really organized. But it seems that the social order that you're talking about is coming from the attitude of the person. So that it doesn't-- I mean, it seems like almost it's more imaginary, you know. Is that right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I wouldn't say exactly purely imaginary. It is been said in the scriptures that being human being is closer to have possibilities of attaining enlightenment. And that that seem to be the possibility. That we have intelligence, intellect, and also physical set-up. That we learn how to set up, other than going along with the animal instinct. So I wouldn't say purely mythical. There is a *real* situation that is taking place.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But the social order that's the ground for building the palace of the mandala, is-- comes from the person's attitude towards the rest of the world?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't say attitude; a person's *actions*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Action.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, pragmatic actions, definitely. Well, it comes with a motive, attitude, learning, thinking, practicing, so forth, sure. But I would like to make it quite clear about this is not regarded as purely the future Shangri-La that we are talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=1351.0,1482.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82219/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: The rules of social behaviour that add up to some kind of respectability, even if it isn't particularly enlightened, seem to be some kind of guideline -- or seem to be intended to be some kind of guideline -- about how not to be a jackal, even in the midst of confusion. And would you say that the existing social guidelines, let's say the ones that are offered by the society for someone who is confused about the-- what an enlightened version of respectability would be, that those modes or codes of conduct would be an intelligent way of conducting oneself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there seem to be two-fold situations: the sanity and tradition that's been handed down, from our forefathers, and *also* there is at the same time, neurosis and confusion that which *also* handed down from our forefathers -- that goes in hands-in-hand, together. But it is possible that to see which is which, what is what. By having clear vision, such as like, sitting practice of meditation, can begin to bring into a very clear perception. And we could go along, or worship, follow the patterns of the sanity approach that we inherit. And we could go beyond or transcend that neurosis that we inherit at the same time. But we can't say that what we inherit is bad or good in the simple way, it is depends on what's happening. But we are actually talking in terms of -- somewhat -- ideal situation of course, but that doesn't mean to say there's going to be everlasting peace on Earth, or anything like that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I’m not sure that I really sorted out what you were saying, as I was listening.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's the problem?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I think I have to wait until I know. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say something?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I didn't hear.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say something, slightly further?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: It feels to me that I would like to be able to convince myself that the rules of ethics and morality, that I have been taught in this culture, that those would be sane, and then I could simply follow them.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Uh huh. [Laughter] That's it! I don't think you can be convinced or *should* be convinced, at all. Once you been convinced that that is to say that it is a good thing to do, and go along with either you are side of the white or the side of the black. That's one of the interesting, but you shouldn't be *convinced* per se as \"poison is medicine\", or \"medicine is medicine\", what have you. But you should be somewhat encouraged that there is a part of the food that we eat, so to speak, is medicine, and part of it is poison. And if you're being convinced, in the whole deal so to speak, you will lose your shirt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=1482.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82219/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JEANNE: Rinpoche, last night you spoke of discrimination and seeing clearly as being a way to mature out of this infancy that we are in. And tonight you spoke about developing a soft spot. I'm not too clear about--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's a good point.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JEANNE: -- the direct relationships.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well both are saying same thing. Developing sense of a soft spot is seeing clearly, but at the same time if you see clearly, there's nothing to be resentful of anything particularly, because the problems is been that everything's jumbled up together. That the path of accumulation level, of one of the first path of the five paths, that there is some sense of seeing things as precisely as they are in your world, your set-up, your neurosis, your problems. And then, the next path that brings into the bodhisattva level, which says that -- no, the next path which brings into the *hinayana* level -- which says that put them into methodically into pattern, and try to understand them, distinguish each other from each other, so you begin to have some sense of understanding, *how* things worked. And then beyond that, that in the mahayana path comes along and will say, that you are not only person who actually discovered that, there are numerous other people who have done so. So let's get together, let's work together as big hordes, or groups, or tribes, whatever you have. So what we are talking tonight in terms of metaphors so to speak, is that we are talking about having some kind of tribal structure, before you build any kind of glorified kingdom, which comes from various tribal structures to begin with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=1800.0,1938.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82219/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: You may have answered this already, and I didn't catch it, but what if part of you can see things clearly, and another part of you wants a good fight? And like, you can feel like your own paranoia somewhat, and, also, you can see somewhat more--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you fight, not seeing clearly, you're bound to lose. Even if you fight, you have to be seeing things clearly, otherwise you can't fight; you're going to be loser. Seeing clearly doesn't mean to say benevolent approach particularly but *critical* attitude to everything. And some point, when you see clearly there's certain things that had to be fought, you do it -- of course, you do it. And certain things had to be cultivated, and nursed, you do that as well.\r\n\r\n\r\n[quietly] Coffee?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=1938.0,2020.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82219/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Going back to Jeanne's question, isn't there a difference between seeing things clearly and the soft spot, in terms of the fact that the development of compassion involves a further experience of egolessness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, what you mean? Do you regard egolessness as seeing things not clearly?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well, doesn't something change somehow in terms of one's whole relationship to the whole charnel ground--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --at that point?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --particularly. No, not particularly. Otherwise, you don't have any possibilities of vajrayana potential in you. You can't forget whole thing, and you can't make charnel grounds when you build palace as suburbs, so you know, [laughter] or dumpyards. That's not very practical. That makes very bad monarch, if you don't realize the junks that around in the kingdom, so to speak.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But conversely, wouldn't the whole development of compassion make it possible for you to relate to the totality of the charnel ground--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --more?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --but that doesn't mean to say that you have ceased to become clear-seeing, or discriminating, particularly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So it's really-- so you're saying it's really the same process?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, as traditionally put it out as, the prajna and compassion works together, indivisibly, so, you can't separate that two. So, it comes as one of the Padampa Sang-gye saints calls it that, \"Fish always lives in the water.\" Water is being a sense of clarity, discrimination, and the fish is being compassion. They always go together.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's preparation to vajrayana actually. That one of the problems or the misunderstanding in the vajrayana -- or *mahayana* literatures usually -- is trying to smear out everything, conceptualized as being everything is cleaned out. But they still talk about prajna, which is a separating process, and they don't talk about what's separated, what's separating process. It's very clearly -- and only things can be heard in the vajrayana principle: what the true meaning of prajna. Which is connected with the, for instance, like the third abhisheka or what have you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So there's a kind of a messy prajna, which involves getting your hands dirty--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, one hand is very precisely clear; one hand is very messy, and which is very tidy, on the other hand, altogether. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=2020.0,2215.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82219/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: You said that if you turn back into an animal, and got devoured, you wouldn't have time for death. What do you mean by \"time for death\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You'd be eaten up on the spot.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well what if you did have time for death?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't. [Laughter] Not \"what if\" -- you don't. You been eaten up alive.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: So you mean death is a continual process? Death and rebirth?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Death is experience.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: You did mean death is a--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Death [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --continuous process?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you have no time to die. You've been swallowed up. It's another form of miscarriage; that you haven't experienced birth. [speaking Spanish] Comprendo? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=2215.0,2294.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82219/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: This gentleman over there in the red?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche, I don't really have a question, I just want to communicate something I wondered if you could add to. A couple things ran through my head about the mandala being set on a broader context of the way nature works, of birth and death, rather than a social-- rather than a democratic security so to speak.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: *What*? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Democratic security. That's what I guess I'd-- rather than trying to get secur--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We don't believe in democracy, you know?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: No, I don't! I'm saying-- [laughs, laughter] no, I'm-- that's what I'm saying is that I don't. Rather than--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: *What*?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: --I'm relating--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Go on, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Okay. That rather-- in other words rather than trying to have security, the mandala is set up on a broader context of birth and death--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: --and I wanted to... What ran through my head was [laughs] how...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: How, uh...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well -- wait a second... [Laughter, laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Go on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: And so, from a bodhisattva point of view, mahayanist point of view, saying the mandala -- that people -- I remember you saying giving up credentials each moment seems to be important -- that ran through my head too. And I was wondering if you could [laughs] speak on that. I was-- what-- when Bernie was talking it reminded me of how it seems like that's why things don't work so well because of looking for security and codes and modes, and so wonder if you could speak more about that in terms of the organization or... [Laughs, laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I could finger paint I suppose at this point, to your question -- or your finger painting question -- but, interesting point is, there seem to be people using a concept or idea of a mandala in the two different ways. One concept is used in the hippie-oriented drug culture level, where, that trying to use some ecological approach, \"Eat natural food, and you'll shit naturally,\" [laughter] and \"we don't pollute the land too much,\" and so forth, which is another kind of mandala concept, I suppose.\r\n\r\n\r\nThe other one is we are not talking about in terms of revolutionary principles, in the layman's or secular point of view; we are talking mandala principle from the point of view of *purely* the map of enlightenment. At this point, we are more interested in *that*, rather than revolutionary ethics, or hippie ethics, or any kind, or communist ethics, or what have you. But we are simply talking about *how* individuals can create their own mandala -- by experiencing their background or charnel ground, and by developing some sense of clarity, some sense of discrimination, as to who they are, what they are, their problems were, and how that originated, how that evolved. And beyond that, how that we begin to recognize others also experience in the same situation. So, I don't see any particular problems. And probably by this point I have missed your point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: No, I-- there's no particular problem. I was just-- I mean that's the way I relate to it too, individual-- [laughs] but um--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: That's the way I relate to it too, as an individual map.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it had got to be a map for everybody, eventually. You can't hang on to your own problems, your own little individuality. That cause a lot of problem, and you become very aggressive and non-spacious -- un-spacious; consequently you fucked up your own job situations, and your social situations. And you are about to become a great nuisance in society, if you just trying to save yourself, but nothing else. And you begin to quote the moralities of social norm, for *your* benefit, what you can put in your own pocket. And things become very complicated that point. You become such mean person. And you can blame on everybody and as if you have done nothing wrong at all, but nevertheless, you know. It gets very tiresome and primevally dirty.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I was-- I was thinking though how, sometimes in relating to other people when you really don't have a position, they relate to you as though you have a position.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you're simple and direct, that's it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's how the tribal structure begins -- there's nobody has position right at the beginning, of the first when the world begun. And there were lots of individuals set up together, and somebody decide to call that as \"chief\", which is not mistake, but everybody unite and they work together. And nobody came out from mother's womb with the credentials, and they worked out that, and now we have system of chief, or king, emperor -- what have we have -- president. We inherit that kind of original choice that we made to build society, which based on a individual's spontaneous feeling about somebody. That they didn't came out of their mother's womb, with the medals, on their birthday suit. 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[Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Well the pig, the pig--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: --shows a lot of discrimination,\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: -- and he hasn't got the miraculous--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Pig?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Yeah, the pig.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Well, he hasn't got the miraculous gift of language to really screw himself up like man has--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: --but I think that a lot of the-- I mean how do we know how much-- what the life of the birds is about? You know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: --including the ravens. There might be a lot of respectability there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, we all do. We live on animals -- including ourselves. We use images. That's a good try. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=2801.0,2888.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82219/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think we have to end at this point, and I would like to mention that...\r\n\r\n\r\n[audio fades out]\r\n\r\n\r\n     \r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=2888.0,2887.57663"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82220","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19760320VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82220/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=0.47,3.98"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82220/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Seminar entitled, The Mandala\nPrinciple and the Three Yanas,\nheld in New York City.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=3.98,7.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82220/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number three,\n\"Working with Others\"\nheld March 20th, 1976.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=7.99,13.78"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82220/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital remaster\nmade August, 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=13.78,20.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82220/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: This is\nthe third talk in the series,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=20.54,22.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82220/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The Mandala Principle\nand the Three Yanas,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=22.58,25.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82220/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given in New York City\nin March of 1976,\nby Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=25.24,31.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82220/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This particular talk\nis entitled,\n\"Working with Others\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=31.13,36.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82220/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like\nto continue what\nwe have discussed last 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do,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=78.63,82.55"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82220/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when we begin to realize\nthat we are our world--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=82.55,88.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82220/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we are our own world?\nWhat we going to do with 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point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=147.42,150.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82220/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We could imitate the jackals,\nand the vampires, and corpse,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=150.61,156.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82220/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and what have you around.\nBut *somehow* the situation\ndoesn't let us do 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has--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=2849.88,2851.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82220/annotation/500","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816#t=2851.72,2852.93"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154717/file/283816/transcript/82220/annotation/501","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11: --but I think\nthat a lot of 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