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People traveling to other countries to seek different values, lifestyles, including spiritual traditions. Yet karma remains American. Claustrophobic nature of many communal situations. Alternative as living together with sense of space and individuality, with knowledge originating within oneself. How at time of the Buddha, followers adopted one rule, then 250. America having enough space and openness to establish new kinds of communities. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q11] relating with others as learning process; [Q12] relating with living situation completely allows other decisions to become clear; [Q13] why solitary retreat like Milarepa's not necessary in America; [Q14] working with threats to the American family.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 19 2021 to Jun 27 2026 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Sophie Perks Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R7"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eHow dissatisfaction with conventional lifestyles led to commune movement, and other alternatives. People traveling to other countries to seek different values, lifestyles, including spiritual traditions. Yet karma remains American. Claustrophobic nature of many communal situations. Alternative as living together with sense of space and individuality, with knowledge originating within oneself. How at time of the Buddha, followers adopted one rule, then 250. America having enough space and openness to establish new kinds of communities. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q11] relating with others as learning process; [Q12] relating with living situation completely allows other decisions to become clear; [Q13] why solitary retreat like Milarepa's not necessary in America; [Q14] working with threats to the American family.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260703-3119242-yrt2l6.mpga"]},"duration":4270.10606,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/313/532/original/open-uri20260703-3119242-yrt2l6.mpga?1783093651","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":4270.10606,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711123VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19711123VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Boulder - Tibetan Buddhism and American Karma - Talk 8] \r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on Tibetan Buddhism and American Karma, held in Boulder, Colorado in November 1971. This will be talk number eight, November 23rd.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=0.0,17.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems we have to-- have been covered-- have covered a lot of areas which are essential to life situation. But there's one particular area hasn't been covered, in terms of talking of lifestyle of American people, and its alternatives. That we have-- it seems that things like religious movement and like other situations we've been discussing are purely connected with minority, but they also have tremendous impact on the majority at the same time, and sort of works as a brain of America, in some ways. That real dynamic aspect of the country is related with intelligence of the country, as well at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=17.0,100.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the next situation that tend to happen is there is a big movement of communities and communes, seem to be the appropriate topic. Having discussed already educational system in American karma, that there is a tremendous tendency developed, to stay at home and relate with your parents, or relate with your friends. And have your own privacy and room. And somehow there seems that generally tendency of separateness, that which seem to bring comfort, and an idea of home, or nest that you can sit in and live. And that concept of home has been imposed by parents to their children. And whole environment of home has been set up, and that setup becomes some stage rather claustrophobic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=100.0,197.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And because of that situation, there seem to be next reactionary against that setup. Which is either homeless, or living together. And in many situations that first evolutionary process is the searching for homeless. That people begin to interested in the lifestyle of other people, other country. Along with their interest in the metaphysical side of it as well. And journeys been made to Japan, India, Afghanistan, and so on. This kind of search. Also to lay-- to live a life of raw and rugged, rather than secure environment of home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=197.0,281.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That there's a tremendous luxury involved in the traveling and hardships, and unexpected adventures which never experienced if you are living in the home. And so much so that at home that you're automatically certain that what day, what kind of dish, what kind of food you're going to get, or what kind of activity is going to happen. So that kind of adventure, of traveling round, is the next phase to reject security. And also quite possibly rejecting the whole philosophy of Americanism as well. That we are extremely worldly people in America, materialistic; whereas other countries relaxed and generous, and non-caring, not at all uptight; unworldly, spiritual, and so on. That that kind of fascination takes you out, constantly, by traveling round.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=281.0,377.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And people tend to get -- from that level, people tend to get into all sorts of dangers or problems. At the same time, fortunes of all kinds as well. They come across with certain involvement with certain friends or certain situations in the foreign countries. And they have extremely bad reaction, and they begin to feel that they've been used, as extraordinary specimen, as a foreigner, American, a rich person. Or at least you came from rich country. And you have a special kind of identity, opposed the people who live there in the country. And people have been taking advantage of you. And at same time, the so-called religious people that you met also are source of disappointment, and begin to discover the charlatans' quality of them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=377.0,449.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And at the same time that, very fortunately that lot of people tend to come across with great people, spiritual people, enlightened persons. And that the whole your lifestyle has been changed, and one wonders that it is extremely fortunate to be here in this environment, quite different. But on the other hand, third type of people that get into it just doesn't click anywhere particularly, because you've been expecting so many things to happen. And just travel and travel and meet people and travel around. And finally begin to get sick of traveling, and sick of the austerity, and begin to become patriotic, and begin to appreciate being back home. Immediately when you come back buy new suit or new shirts, and begin to get job and just follow the examples of some middle class scene. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=449.0,521.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And those who have experienced something from their teachers or gurus they met in the East, or Japan or India, wherever it is may be, they also find certain nostalgia of coming back home, at the same time. Because each time when they try to learn and study under their teacher, there's always a reference been made. Each time when you see a beautiful work of art, automatically think, people back home would be extremely surprised or breathtaking; you might be able to bring back home. That, \"Wow, such a beautiful thing. That such beautiful experience; I must be able to relate with back home,\" so constantly try to keep a diary. Or photographs for that matter. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Or a painting as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=521.0,578.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite so. And there's always relation back to-- back home somehow. As you go to foreign countries, some strange reason, that you can't really leave, karmically forget, or abandon your -- or ignore, that you've been born in this country, and you're brought up this country; you've been breathing American air. Somehow you can't forget that altogether, from that point of view. Except a few types of situations, that people had been completely captivated by being in the foreign country, extraordinary situation. But at the same time that there is also extraordinarily pleasure, of the change or the differences. And they force themselves to regard Japan or India, wherever it is may be as home. And trying to speak Hindi or Japanese, or whatever have you. And when they speak English, they also speak like the Indians or the Japanese, sort of pidgin English [laughter]; it become completely, completely \"Orientalized.\" And there's that type of people, who despises anybody coming home, and regard it as stupid people and unclean, and spiritually low people. That brotherhood is related with the country they live in. And quite possibly those type of people probably would become monks or nuns in the monasteries, and live a life of current situation there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=578.0,695.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And again at the same time, those people who also achieved that kind of perfection of, without going through plastic surgery, that they find they could get into it that way. As also something hangup of their home as well at the same time of course. That more they try to achieve one with native countries, one with the natives so to speak. And they speak perfect Japanese or perfect Hindi, or whatever have you. Or Arabic or whatever it is. And they master the whole language. And then they begin to translate the ideas they been-- understood and extreme experienced, in terms of Western thinking automatically back. Because they realize they can't really change, the whole psychology couldn't be changed into the country they're living in. They have some hangups, so to speak, as they see it. So they have to change their mentality somehow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=695.0,766.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that kind of situation happens constantly. And quite possibly those type of people would be the great authors, who write books on whatever it's may be: “The Art of Archery” or “How to Build Ideal Home According to the Japanese or Bengali Village.” [Laughter] Or “My Experience with My Guru, Hunting the Guru,” [laughter]. \"The Art of Meditation.” \"Breathtaking Experience with My Friend.” All sorts of books could churn out. Still somewhat relating back with their people, constantly. So that somehow their karma is back home somehow, whether we like it or not. That seem to be the pattern of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=766.0,836.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then, in this country, back home, that we have-- those people come back from the East, or Easterners who immigrated into this country, importing their knowledge, without paying duty. [Laughs] Because when you come-- first come across with the airport, and they have ask whether you have brought anything in your suitcase. [Laughs] They don't ask what knowledge you brought-- you are bringing in this country. So in a sense it is kind of smuggling [laughter], smuggling knowledge into this country. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=836.0,903.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And inspiration of great people, teachers that arrived in this country. And friends begin to gather around it. Or else there is general people who are not related with such teachers, but independently come to certain conclusions, and friends begin to collect together and become friends with each other. And they decide to live together, because that a lonely life is no answer. Travelled around in the foreign countries, but haven't found any place to live in, so we have to somehow do something here to make ourselves comfortable, or liveable at least. So only way to do is not spend rest of your life in the foreign countries alone, but come back home and relate with your old friends and new friends, and establish some commune or some kind of setup.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=903.0,961.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But the philosophy of setup of commune is extremely dangerous in that sense, because it's not purely as simple as what I described. Wanted to live home, comfortable home of friendship, together, with other people alone, but people get extremely defensive and dogmatic about their commune situation. That there is extreme heroic and religious concept connected with that commune-- those communes. Whether it is connected with idea of building platform for flying saucers, and tuning with Mars or Pluto, or what have you, and trying to communicate with those people from outer space, our friends from the outer space, and welcome them and relate with them, or whatever have you. All sorts of kinds of situations that we have, in this country. From sublime to ridiculous. All *kinds* of trips that involved, constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=961.0,1054.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And somehow that at some state that such setup becomes extraordinarily complicated, because there's so much high-powered minds infiltrating into simple existence of living together. And either breaks away or else recharge-- highly recharged, and tremendous energy brings up. So in a sense it's rather like riding on electricity. That kind of setup of commune, or being together, living together, sharing everybody's belongings completely, together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=1054.0,1101.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In fact, that interesting situation is that in the Catholic tradition of living monastic life, is that even you don't call \"my,\" \"me\" at all. You always call \"our\" and \"we.\" If you have your own toothbrush, you don't call it \"my toothbrush\"; it's \"our toothbrush.\" It's \"our shirt.\" It's not \"yours,\" it's \"our shirt.\" [Laughs] In particular in Benedictine traditions, it is been taught people to say instead of \"my,\" “my things,\" as \"my cup,” “my rosary,” “my shoes,\" it's \"our shoes.\" Constantly referred as that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=1101.0,1154.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So somehow I suppose that kind of perfection of a commune, of living together is being inspired in this country of trying to share everything, as much as possible, completely. And live together as well. In one room possibly, or big tepee or whatever have you. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=1154.0,1185.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that kind of situation of a commune quite possibly would have a problem of intensity and tension, always rises out of it. There would be all sorts of tensions that your living situation, or your living space is being invaded by other people. And everybody's constantly watching each other and analyzing their spiritual growth, or whatever have you. And pointing out, \"That is your hangup\" or \"this is your hangup.\" So finally that you have no room to freak out even at all, because that in itself is a hangup. [Laughter] So it's extremely closed, and there's no space of *any* kind at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=1185.0,1249.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there seem to be another situation of a commune, is ideal situation, that there sort of need to be developed, seems to me, is that if you're trying to experience the human quality, or the tribal quality, the tribal situation, and the tribal situation is not high-powered mind at all, it's just simple existence of a group of people living together. Just purely group of people living together. And people live together because of there's a sense of space between each of us, which is most attractive situation of all. The idea which push us out, into \"I don't want to live in such environment,\" is generally, or largely based on not having enough space, or source of communication enough. Sense of communication. That if there's enough space to communicate with each other, the idea of space is also develop. Or if there's enough space, idea of communication automatically will develop.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=1249.0,1344.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that the certain ideas of sort of village setup, of communities, seem to be feasible from that point of view. That nobody have to watch themselves, each other too closely and too critically, and trying to exclude their individualities. It seems that if there's room to be individuals, at the same time relate with the expressions of individuals to others; that seem to be the only way that community could start. And also intensive-- it seems that it sort of reduces the intense situation of trips involved with the community situation, could be also put into right perspective view. At the same time you don't have to venture around another country necessarily at all. Because that there is enough space, there's enough knowledge that you can incubate within yourself, by living in a spacious place, with at the same time extraordinarily exciting situation. There's new event happens every day, because there's space to-- things to happen. And that kind of living situation seem to be ideal. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nGuess what I'm talking. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=1344.0,1480.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well I must confess [laughter], and I should point out that I'm not trying to sell these ideas. [Laughter; laughs] But seemingly such situation -- seemingly -- you can always reject of course. There's great possibilities of that type of living situation. It seems that when you start communities that if there's a heavy-handed structure at the beginning, sort of immediately start on a very regimented basis, somehow becomes too difficult to maintain it, and there isn't enough relationship with each other in the communities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=1480.0,1559.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And also, in order to maintain such rigid structure, there have to have the officers, or the people in charge. And also there have to be some strict rule, or discipline, or \"threat\" of some kind, that \"If you don't do this, you'll be going to be kicked out.\" Or that you're going to be punished. And to begin with such kind of tight setup of community doesn't seem to be particularly ideal. So that beginning is the most important of all, it seems that; therefore more space you allow to begin, that much you have things to maneuver around or shuffle around, and relate with the whole situation. There's enough lubrications at the beginning to revolve things around and around, so nothing's absolutely tight and hard and fastened. And also that because things so loose at the beginning, therefore situations themselves will create the rules and regulations, because you allow people to make mistakes. And these mistakes may be healthy ones, or may be destructive ones, may be lethal ones. So that because of the situations, that the situations will create rules, regulations, rather than somebody imposing on it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=1559.0,1655.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that seem to be the also Buddhist tradition of what happened with follower of Buddha. That he started a monastic system, so to speak, of particularly wearing orange robe, carrying begging bowls, not living in a home; living in the jungle and every day going down to the town for food. That's more or less the only regulation there is. But one by one, there were two hundred and fifty rules have developed, of monastic rules developed. Each person contributed certain unskillful situations; they become fixed unskillful situations, fixed attempt-- fixed seduction, to be the rest of the community. In fact quite a lot of them are, monastic rules are very ironic ones, but at the same time they developed into rules.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=1655.0,1719.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So each time when certain monks would go to Buddha and said that, \"There had been some chaos be happened, because I did and so and so and so on, so therefore in the future, monks mustn't do that.\" For instance there was a story of a monk who built his-- he sharpened his four poster of his bed, the legs extremely sharp, sharp-pointed legs of his bed. And he put it on the roof of another monk's hut [laughter], and he lay down on it, and as he lay down there was four big holes from the ceiling of the other monk's room, cell. Of course there's a complain, next day, and the complaint was taken to the Buddha: \"Now what shall we do?\" He said, \"In the future monks mustn't do that.\" [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=1719.0,1805.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the rules could be in some sense very silly ones. Even Buddha didn't manage to avoid those silliness of the rules. But at the same time, it is extremely interesting in terms of community, of monks or people living together. That because rules come from-- because of such loose situation, such open situation, therefore things begin to happen. Mistakes as well as the skillful situation have tend to develop. Because that whole situation is community living separately, individuals have their own scene going on. Therefore they have freedom to do what they feel like. And also they have freedom to discipline themselves as well at the same time. As well as some communal effort is being put together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=1805.0,1869.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So somehow that idea of community that developed provided by American karma is for one thing extremely exciting. That if you-- we have to start a community in Great Britain for instance, there isn't enough space, enough room; everything's fenced, everything's Crown property. And very rigid. Or other part of the world, for that matter. It doesn't matter; wherever it is. But it seems that this country provided a tremendous vast space, and vast beautiful land, of highest mountains to the most beautiful coastal areas. That there's tremendous space to create such expansion, that communities don't feel uptight or impressed [sic: compressed] into a smaller circle, but there's tremendous expansion, of community life situation -- it could create. Because its vastness, because its expansive quality of it. As well as the people take part in the community also would come from different situations as well at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=1869.0,1956.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That this kind of communal setup is-- seem to be product of American karma, that created. A lot of people who had been already searching, and been traveling around, and they want to settle down, but they don't want to settle down in a concentrated area particularly at all. And it seems there's very few-- there are very few individuals who are just haven't experienced any kind of problem at all. Somehow that the involvement of situation in the pain of life, the truth of suffering, brought us together, in further inspirations of communal situation. So, it seems that this kind of community also would have dealings with the city, at the same time. That you are not particularly fixed on that living situation alone; that city situation also becomes a part of learning process. And it is possible to develop such loose community in the cities equally at the same time, which I think will be extremely important as well. And because there's a tendency to avoid conflict, and trying to relate life of spiritual luxury.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Baby cries] AUDIENCE: It's okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Maybe we should talk about city in American karma in the next talk. And we could stop there talking about community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=1956.0,2107.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I had a feeling when you were talking about looseness that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Talking about?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You were talking about looseness at the beginning, and the way people develop. Well, do you perceive rules, as such, developing to what extent [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In our community do you mean? [Laughs] In other communities. I think it's inevitable anyway. I think it's-- each rules become historical monument. [Laughter; laughs] It has its own case history and stories of it. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well, I mean, you said something specifically-- in a specific direction, in other words, rules in terms of setting up a specific kind of meditational environment. So that let's say for example, people would be engaging in specific meditational practices together, which would be perhaps sort of compulsory nature or something like that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I can imagine. [Laughter; laughs] I *can* imagine, yeah. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=2107.0,2183.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Is it-- do you think it's possible to develop this kind of looseness, and yet being together in the city, in the towns now?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, very much so, yes. Because the city is very strange thing, it-- it's very electric, and unlike living on this land, empty land, or desolate land. That a city has constant change of vibrations, and people become more emotional or uptight living in the city. So I think the city could be used tremendously, and I'm sure it is possible.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: You said this particular city [ed: Boulder] seems to be divided into two particular parts: hill and flat part, short hairs and long hairs, young ones and old ones. It would be a very interesting next to see how [INAUDIBLE], at least some sort of integrating [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's how you relate with the city situation, how you relate with the people, as people rather than any classifications, which could be done. I know quite a number of people working for old people, and they're trying to help them to build their houses, or clean their rooms. And things like that being developed, as well as our old people join their group of young people. So situation could develop.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: If-- I feel if one gets rid of one's own tendency to put people in categories, one can dissolve their [INAUDIBLE] in the same way, and there could be some kind of a simple human [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think if they feel they don't have to defend their territory, or defend their philosophical ideas anymore, then they become direct person, simple person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=2183.0,2318.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Rinpoche, I don't understand. What is it in space -- you said that when you spaced out on people, there was always something interesting in space to occupy you. Now I don't know what that is.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Whether space--?\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: I don't know what it is that fills up the space and makes it interesting. Whenever I want to space out, then when I space out then I get lonesome, then I'm--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You get what?\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Lonesome. If I space out, and I want to space out, then when I'm spaced out I'm lonesome, then I want to be back again where I was. So what is this interesting thing that you find in space? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose you have to start with being lonesome.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You have to start with by being lonely. You have to start--\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Stop being lonely?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Start being lonely. Start. CYRUS CRANE: Oh, *start* by being lonely.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Oh I see. Then will that get over sometime or other?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Not necessarily.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. But maybe loneliness in itself could become exciting. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Could become exciting?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: That I'd like to find out, that's-- [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There you are!\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: I don't know how to make that out; that's interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=2318.0,2408.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What do you mean by \"space out\"? I mean when you say that, I get sort of a weird feeling that-- [laughter] I mean it comes-- it sounds like it comes from my old [INAUDIBLE] life, and I'm sure that's why when you say \"space out\" I cringe. But when you say \"space out\" it seems like a dangerous sort of expression to use, because most people I know are *used* to being spaced out. I thought you wanted us to ground, to come down to earth?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well that's the interesting point about space, is that space is always related with imaginary space, rather than the space of the Earth.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Space of the Earth.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Is related with imaginary space--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Imaginary space, rather than space of the Earth. That imaginary space contains all sorts of hallucinations and frustrations, and the cloud mind of-- clouded mind of love and hate; all sorts of situation develop. In other word, in imaginary space that everything's too real and too dreamy, that nothing will be tangible. Or nothing could-- you can't relate with anything. But apparently looks very real and very solid, including your thoughts and fraction of emotions. But at the same time when you trying to hold onto it, it goes away, so it's constantly sort of wandering around, constantly, without any aim or object or goal.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut in the case of the space of the Earth, that you have fresh and vacant, or lonely. Ever-- whatever happens in terms of experience along-- in the midst of that space is very vivid, and very real. It's like empty-- big empty room with one candle burning in the middle of it. Everything what happens in your life situation becomes real, and communicative. In the real sense of communicative: that seeing things as they are in other word. So that there's a sense of sanity, and no freakiness of any kind at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn the case of the space of the imaginary situation, that you don't feel loneliness in it at all. You feel crowded with all sorts of things. And you got all sorts of things to work on it, or indulge yourself in it, all sorts of colorful situations. So in other word spacing out from that point of view *is* grounding.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=2408.0,2603.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: How does imaginary space relate to outer space, because there seems to be an outer space quality in it sometimes, or it seems to be clothed somehow.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Outer space quality in it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: In the imaginary space, it seems to be perhaps taking on this hallucinations of the outer space quality. [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Into the [INAUDIBLE]. \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is it like being-- is it-- can it be sort of being adrift in outer space? Does that apply at all?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In the imaginary? I think so. But at the same time, in imaginary space that there's no *real* space. I mean, the idea of the infinite is not known there at all, because you are too involved with the colorful aspect of things rather than the expansive situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=2603.0,2662.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: There seems to be a tendency to [INAUDIBLE] and to establish one's ground.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Establish?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: One's ground, you know, one's sort of territory. When heightened possibility can counteract that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose you could say that simply, if there's sense of maintenance of your ground, then you're not really in proper contact with your ground at all, because you're trying to maintain yourself. And in a sense trying to maintain one's ground is also defeating your purpose altogether at the beginning. That your ground may not be able to hold. There may be possible attacks coming from other situations. So in a sense one have to trust one's ground more. In other word one have to be sort of proud of one's ground. So much so that you can invite other people to take-- conduct a tours around your ground. That you're proud of it, and you're not afraid of any threat of any kind at all. It's-- the approach is more positive than negative ones. Relating with that is to face the ground as a positive thing rather than ground as something negative, something you should get rid of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=2662.0,2796.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Wouldn't this be another trick of the ego, if in order to defend one's territory, the best defense would be not to defend the territory? And so one wouldn't-- same with attachment; the best way to keep something is not to be attached to it. One tends not to be attached to it, so on and on and on.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well yeah, it could be; if you try too hard it could be a double cross from the ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=2796.0,2831.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Rinpoche, how can you approach children in meditation? At what age would they be ready to begin to meditate?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that the traditional style is about age of eight or nine. And it seems that if you're trying to enforce them to it somehow, that doesn't seem to be the way, but just generally way of bringing them -- if you develop way of bringing them in without forcing. As just like sitting on the table together, in order to have a meal. So you just sit down in order to meditate. It's simple approach seem to be the best one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: You mean like, sort of like to sit with your own child and sort of introduce them to the idea, so when they get tired, then could you take five minutes and maybe go through [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --not to try to introduce them to the whole forty-five minute or an hour long-- [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --session [laughs; laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=2831.0,2922.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Because it's hard on the child and very distracting to the group.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, of course, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: At Tassajara, some of the children voluntarily came to the services which were held throughout the day. And they seemed to really like that. They weren't required to sit at all. They just came and they bowed, and they-- and were with the chanting too. They liked that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. You see the whole environment is that if there is a tremendous positive inviting situation is created. And children are not self-conscious of they must do something as well. If nothing is demanded from them, then they would like to come in and play with it. Whereas if you demand something from them: \"In order to be good you must do something.\" And of course then automatically there is always sense of you want to preserve your territory, and you want-- don't want to give anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=2922.0,2994.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: In terms of what we're doing in *our* community, it seems in a lot of ways we're trying to create a very ideal situation. It offers companionship. And it offers at the same time a great deal of space, so that people aren't too crowded. And again we're trying to create a situation where there's an absence of heavy ideological or organizational trips. It's a very-- potentially a very spacious kind of situation for the people involved. And at the same time, you talk about relating to the space of Earth, which is a matter--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Space of what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: The space of Earth, which is a matter of meditation, of understanding. You know the whole odyssey that each individual has to go through, their trip. And at times it feels like we're creating such an *ideal* situation -- potentially, if it were to work. However painfully, you know. And I'm wondering what the relationship is, you know. On the one hand, we work towards this very comfortable physical situation. On the other hand you say things like to Cyrus where-- and where you have to experience loneliness first. And you talk too about you know the necessity of experiencing pain and negativities in order to, you know, further the key to understanding of meditation. In other words, there's just a hint here, you know, of like, some kind of materialistic, physical materialistic thing of creating this very ideal communal living situation, where there's a minimum of friction, or a minimum of heavy trips laid down. And how does that relate to meditation practice, sitting and walking, and everything else?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems if there's more space, more ideal situation to *begin* with, then the chaos becomes more outstanding, *impressive*. That there's room to suffer, there's room to be lonely. So everything's in its right perspective situation, where that-- in which that learning process becomes pure confirmation, rather than something's imposed on you. And of course, as I said already in terms of imposed meditation practices, that people might have to go through it, is because that situation demands, they are so ideally in that particular realm or therefore they have to demand some situation, and therefore they get into it somehow; it's a situational creation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, I mean at the beginning when we first began our community, we didn't have introduce sesshin or any of that kind at all. And they sort of had to developed, automatically. And in fact a lot of people expresses the need for somebody to make them to meditate, otherwise they wouldn't do it. So that kind of need begin arises. And a similar situation happens also in The Tail of the Tiger for instance, recently. That there has been so much sort of vacant space, dis-used space. And also so much kind of feeling of... boredom; that they would like to put into situation of meditation, but they couldn't get themselves together to do it. So automatically suggestion came up is that we should start a compulsive-- compulsory meditation. That everybody in the community must meditate two hours a day, including the sesshin.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd that seem to be situation that had developed. And it's-- there's more ideal situation and more chaos happens. It's matter of just trust in the kind of organic law of world; that it automatically happens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=2994.0,3288.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Sometimes it seems as though our biggest blind spots have to do with relating to other people, you know. Our most deep-rooted hangups, like come out of our family situations and everything, and have to do with the way we relate to people. And I was wondering, like, I've experienced situations in communal living where these blind spots have sort of become compounded, you know. Sort of become like it really gets hard to see sometimes. Because everybody's compounding each other's emotional trips with each other. And I was wondering like how you keep clear, you know? Or how you keep in touch with the feeling of being alone anyway, you know, instead of like depending on people, you know, all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose you have to relate with your own experience as a learning process, rather than use other people as crutches, deliberately. And that is to say that there is-- there should be enough trust in the environment that you're in, your experience does not have to be confirmed by others necessarily at all. You could experience your learning process as a first-hand account. So it needs more of trust in oneself, and also at the same time that trust involves not trying to escape from oneself. Whenever there's irritating situation involved with oneself, immediately runs to someone else, and trying to start interesting conversation or trying to do something else, instead. And there's that kind of irritating experience, to experience the-- irritating feeling to experience the-- one's true nature, in the pejorative sense. So it's a question of how to learn to love yourself in a sense to begin with. So you are worthy of it, you are complete person. So you can afford to walk on yourself, and walk with your feet. You don't need crutches. Trusting yourself sort of thing. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Isn't that the difference between lonely and alone?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, I think so, yeah, definitely, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=3288.0,3470.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Rinpoche, I read in The Jewel Ornament [of Liberation] they brought out something called right occupation, right work, and I got my [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You did what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I've had my own intuition about what that should mean to each individual. And I've thought about it myself, but I wondered whether you could comment on it. Because you know it's big-- talking about community, and work is a part of the community. And they seem to bring that up about right occupation. I feel I find it myself but I wish you would comment on it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's again sort of wholesome way of relating with the life situation. That certain discipline is needed. But main idea is how to relate with the living situations. If you able to relate with the living situation as complete as much as possible, in its full splendor, that what is irrelevant doesn't happen, what is relevant tend to happen with the completed living situation, like completely yourself tuning into the situation ideally and completely. Without anything holding back, without trying to learn anything for that matter at all. But just being one with situations. And because being one with the situation completely fully, then living situation becomes obvious, that certain decisions, if you have to reject something, it is obvious, if you have to accept something, it is quite obvious. If you have to be tough with a situation, you'll be-- it will be obvious. You should be kind with the situation, it will be quite obvious. And you get that strength out of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Let me just ask you this. I thought about that, I thought it would be something that one should feel they *like doing*; in other words that they feel rapport with. In other words it should be a creative feeling, whatever it is. Whether it's the simplest type, or whatever it might be. And that they *can* do, in other words what they're willing to do. Such as physically or psychologically both, rather than go against yourself just to prove something. Do you think this is true or not?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sounds okay. [Laughs] It's depends on the practice I suppose. 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That the watching yourself becomes extremely powerful one, *extremely* powerful one. That if somebody goes to retreat, in the solitary, and trying to follow Milarepa's examples, then person is automatically related with somebody who's special. As well as himself feels that he's living life of luxury, compared with the other Americans.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn the case of Milarepa, that he never had that comparative notions of any kind at all; it's just something that you do. He just step out of his homeland and he just went into a cave, very simply. But in the case of Americans it's very-- it is very complicated. Like particularly like Milarepa, having meditated for a long time and when he came out of his solitary, begin to teach other people. That there will be extreme heavy trips laid on that person who coming out of retreat. Spend ten years in solitary, and came out and begin to teach the dharma. And people could relate very heavily, so-- and *himself* as well feels special. Much more so than anywhere in the Eastern countries.\r\n\r\n\r\nLike if you become a monk for instance in the East, it is purely just another occupation in some sense; of course it's a virtuous one, but another occupation. But if somebody becomes a Buddhist monk in *this* country, that he's famous all over the country. His stories being written about it, or interviewed by people, or his friends talks about him, because there's so much ideas involved behind it, so.... I think that's not fundamental problem with us at all in this country. That what we have to do is we have to familiarize the whole idea of learning and meditating is not a big deal, and it is part of living situation. And become a monk also some stage it becomes natural situation. It might take fifty or sixty years from now onward. 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Somehow I think that is based on fundamental aggression: that you want to have your own thing in your way, whereas others think that they shouldn't be done that way at all, because that there is this tendency of they want to secure your life, your parents want to secure your life, or your husband wants to secure your life. And too much identification with each other as a possession rather than as friends. So if there's a way of making friends with each other, which would develop naturally of course; it had to happen, something really organic in that sense. I think nothing's going to happen particularly. I'm sure it'll work out. 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But at the same time then if you label yourself as a practitioner of something particularly, then there's always danger. But if you don't label yourself as a practitioner of some particular thing and you just do it, that free everywhere, including this country. It's the labeling seem to be the problem always. And that \"I'm belong to so-- such and such an order, and I'm doing and practicing this, this particular cult.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=4086.0,4173.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Do you think with this many people in the world doing the communal thing is sort of compared to some stage of revolution, in politics, really in a sense of message--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Less room for this solitary sort of trip?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There is a--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Than as in say the time of Milarepa. Sort of the path that is open for us to follow now is more along the lines of friendliness and optimism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think from this point of view, I mean we can only talk about where we are now of course, but if we judge from where we are now, the whole process doesn't seem to be bad at all. It's very hopeful. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yes. [Laughter; laughs] Nothing to do with the philosophy of the East. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532#t=4173.0,4254.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174115/file/313532/transcript/95069/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well maybe we should close our gathering and have tonight's session, if there's tonight at all. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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