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They include: how one's relationship with money reflects one's character; traditional Buddhist ideas of simplifying one's life to barest minimum; Marpa's giving gold to Naropa, and how money applies to receiving teachings; whether giving to the poor is actually compassionate; karma connecting with money and one's parents; the mistaken notion that money and work are not part of one's spiritual life. Interesting section on the finances of monasteries in Tibet. Discussions on work and money as being part of one's spiritual life open to larger discussions as to nature of spirituality altogether.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Work, Sex, Money","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 10"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: WORK, SEX, MONEY: Chapter 11: Family Karma and Chapter 13: The Karma of Money\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/work-sex-money-1735.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 10 (in contained book WORK, SEX, MONEY)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-volume-10-15032.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 09 2025 to Mar 25 2026 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Blaire Martin Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R5"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA long discussion covering a range of topics about the connection of money with karma. They include: how one's relationship with money reflects one's character; traditional Buddhist ideas of simplifying one's life to barest minimum; Marpa's giving gold to Naropa, and how money applies to receiving teachings; whether giving to the poor is actually compassionate; karma connecting with money and one's parents; the mistaken notion that money and work are not part of one's spiritual life. Interesting section on the finances of monasteries in Tibet. Discussions on work and money as being part of one's spiritual life open to larger discussions as to nature of spirituality altogether.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260428-880-memlqw.mpga"]},"duration":9127.49713,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/308/263/original/open-uri20260428-880-memlqw.mpga?1777400270","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":9127.49713,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19710904VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19710904VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Work Sex Money II - Talk 7] \r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled Work, Sex, Money Two, given at Karme Choling in Barnet, Vermont. This is Talk Seven, given on September 4th, 1971. This is a CTI remaster made October 2025.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar Work, Sex, and Money, held at Tail of the Tiger in Vermont in September 1971. This will be talk number seven, September 4th. Part One.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=0.0,51.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Shall we have discussions first?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Well, money seems to be something that is in all of our lives quite a bit. And seems to be sort of a lubricant for all kinds of material interchanges. And what I-- what I've always wondered about it is whether or not it has laws of its own, or whether it's just completely as characterless as it seems to be. [Laughs] Whether there's-- [laughs] whether it's an entity or just a piece of change.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's saying the same thing like karma. I mean you can't say karma is entity of its own, as independent thing. But at the same time it goes-- at the same time it has its own characteristics of energy. Uses other situations as part of its force.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: So karma doesn't have -- and this is I guess, you know, a question about karma [laughs] -- would you say that karma is intention-less?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean particularly from Buddhist point of view, of karma is just mechanical, and reacts to natural chemistry situations.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What did you mean by \"money karma\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well karma has all sorts of different aspects. It's the relationship with the money; usually that there is always unresolved problem with money, with everyone. Same as unresolved problem with life. That seem to be money karma. That in many cases people get a lot of money, but always they're short of it. Or else they got very little money but can last for a long time. All sorts of relationships with money is very, very intricate. Some people can manage very well, handle it very well; less neurosis are involved with it. And some people find extremely difficult, every penny should be fought.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=51.0,303.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: So it seems that one's money situation is-- or the way one relates to money would be some way a very good mirror of one's character would you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One's karmic relationship to, yeah, life. Definitely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Could you expand on that any?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's quite self-explanatory. That you wanted to free yourself very badly. And you have the opportunities-- every other opportunities, but one thing holds you back. That could be money. Whole thing have to be resolved from that point of view. And then, trying to hold back and trying to resolve the money problem, brings you into another situations, of involvement of some other situations, and so you'll be hurled back - -or you'll be pushed, on the other hand. That you have some particular inclination to do certain things or go certain places or do certain things, and suddenly somebody sends you a check, out of the blue. And then just as though saying \"go and do it, here you are.\" And you get money and then you can go and do it. That kind of situation is always very, very mysterious thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=303.0,463.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Seems difficult to be free from any-- from a sense of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Difficult to--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Difficult to be free from a sense of hoarding it, even if hoarding it for the purpose of having possessions and a big house, cars, things like that. If that drops out, then it's still possible to want to hoard it so that one can come to seminars, for instance. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If one drops that did you--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So, if one drops the having it for possession's sake--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: --then it's still a matter of possessing the means to come to seminars, and that's another-- how's that related to the money karma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean there again, what happens after you attend the seminars, if you drop the whole-- rest of whole thing? You can't recreate whole thing. And one have to find some livelihood somewhere. I mean that's not the only thing. That's-- that what happens with a lot of cases, that people tend to get very impulsive... mind of renunciation, sudden impulse. And give away everything, you know, give away your car away, your wrist watch away, your camera away, and house; everything. And each time when you give those things feel very better, much better. Heroic. And then, once you given them all away completely, and you think you're free of it, and you begin to get into something. But somehow or other the money karma still follows you. Just give away, get rid of things. Or disowning that particular plot of land or particular thing somehow it doesn't help, and you still have a problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Would it be necessary to be able to have it and work with it but not be attached to it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that seem to be the idea; it's the same idea as transmutation process, making relationship with the money and relationship with the possessions and not run into extreme impulsive renunciation kick.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=463.0,638.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Doesn't a lot depend on the nature of the impulse, on seeing what one's motivation is? I have known-- I know a very old lady, a very wonderful old lady, whose husband left her after thirty-five years of marriage. And her reaction was that she renounced every-- she gave up all her possessions. Now she's living in Zen center, because she gave some very precious art objects that she had to Zen center and she-- Suzuki Roshi befriended her. But I got to be very close to her. And actually it came out that she gave-- she couldn't tolerate the situation. She was very brave and gallant, and saying how she has no home now, because her husband went and said, you know, \"That's the end. I'm going to my boat, and you can do whatever you please.\" And it turned out that it was a tremendous gash to her: suddenly she found that she was old and she had absolutely no security and she would have liked to move around, and she couldn't move anywhere. And she was trapped in the situation. But she didn't know her own motivation. She was generous, she's a generous person. But she was hurt, she was doing it because she wanted to clear up a wound in her.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: She wanted to?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Clear-- save face in a way before herself. So perhaps one should really-- before one does anything drastic perhaps one should really find out why one is doing it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely yes. Well, usually people not aware of money is karmically related to them. I don't know how much they're aware of it. Some people may be more aware of than others. But usual tendency is if you gave away, if you get rid of it, like operation removing your cancer, and then you are free of it. But somehow it doesn't work that way. If you don't relate with it, and you just give away, then that whole karmic situation comes back to you, always. So there again the same old thing: better not to begin; once you begin, do it properly. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=638.0,800.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: How about the traditional demand for poverty, in Buddhism, from Avolokiteshvara? Is that something that again, is out-of-date or not applicable?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] I wouldn't say out- of- date at all; it's-- in the Buddhist sense, it is basic renunciation, and simplicity. It seems that Buddhism has less class-conscious notion of poverty, than for instance that of Christianity. The certain contemplative tradition of Christianity would say that living life as a poorest person in that country is monastic life. But in the case of Buddhism that it is not-- poverty is not used to in this case of criteria of living like somebody, or living like that or this. But something fundamentally very simple. That you do only necessary things in the life, but not introduce any extra complications into life. Just eating, sleeping, shitting is necessary to do. And apart from that you don't have to engage yourself further things. That's what called Sanskrit term \"kusali\", which means \"those who does three necessary things\": eat, sleep, and shit. Simplified into that kind of life. It's not so much of rich or poor but it just content with simplicity of life, just doing necessary things, and not introduce any further source of entertainments, of any kind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=800.0,956.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: This points out something very basic to-- well of course with each individual, but somewhat more so like with people of our generation. Which gives it the attraction for people to come to meet somebody like you, because all our lives we've had this, we've had that. Our attention, our-- the motivations for our life, the reasons for living, has always been outside, which money gives. Or, if you don't have money you keep working, and working in itself just for the motivation of acquiring money or acquiring things, again, one's life is filled with just that. So that there's an emptiness, and a lack, or-- lack of ability at least upon-- on my part, to put anything I know into practice, to make that first step and to follow through with it. I mean-- I've come to understand, you know, the pull of external things, and the necessity to fill a void, but to see that -- not necessarily to understand it but to see that -- and yet, to do it. Those are two things very much apart. How do you-- how does one get oneself to do it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To do the--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: To do something about the emptiness of one's quality of inner life. Rather than continually talking about it and repeating the same patterns and praises, that we hear so often and we truthfully know many of the answers ourselves, but lack the will to say, \"fine I'm going to put this into practice now.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's quite simple it seems. One thing that there is a tremendous attitude built around \"actually I'm going to practice and-- that I'm going to put into effect.\" Means certain amount of attitude, of importance. Of you're taking serious step, and going to practice and going to put into effect. But if one's attitude to doing these things are regarded as just simple straightforward relationship -- we've been talking about the simplicity, simple relationship -- and there's no big deal involved. And one can begin with a very smaller scale of practicing, and one doesn't have to make a drastic change in a larger scale, but one can begin on a smaller scale, of seemingly insignificant situation, and step onto that and then gradually develop and build.\r\n\r\n\r\nYou see, the smaller scales are always there, and they are ready to be accepted, they are ready to step on, there are always that situation around one's life all the time. And if we're acknowledge-- able to acknowledge it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: But it's-- there's so many confusing alternatives of how to begin, even on a small step.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But that's the--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is it a matter of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's the whole point: you don't know-- you don't *have* to know how to begin. Once you begin think how to do it then you are making big deal of it. Sort of regarding whole thing as ritual. One doesn't have to think about how to begin, but one just have to relate with the things, and then you automatically learn how to begin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=956.0,1249.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Does that have something to do with either a lack of patience or too much expectation in what-- in every little thing that one does?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Further-- I suppose so but even then that doesn't mean anything. Lack of patience or hesitation, whatever's may be; but then, begin with them. Begin with the lack of patience, begin with the fascination. Doesn't have to start perfectly. That's good enough. Once you begin, then you are on it. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nThere is seem to be big notion of one have to start perfect, all the time, and properly. Of course one have to begin in a certain some sense perfectly and properly of course, but... that doesn't mean that you have to be pure person to begin with, necessarily. That once you begin the perfection begin to arise, along with your diligent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=1249.0,1359.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Suppose one is weak, and then is-- then does that mean that placing oneself onto-- under somebody's more immediate guidance? Or should that weakness be dealt with privately?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you mean privately?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: By oneself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think one should work with oneself, particularly if you're weak. There's no point of taking refuge under somebody else's shelter. That one have to begin with oneself. And then one will be able to develop confidence. And it is been said that weaker-- weak person is one of the most strongest person of all, because doesn't strain his own strength. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Makes slow going.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But very efficiently. It's like worm. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=1359.0,1465.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Americans always feel short-changed let's say, in--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Short what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Short-changed, and they believe on-- let's them-- teachings be to spend their money, but their currency, American currency says \"God-- In God We Trust,\" let's say. Could you comment on the fact that Tibetan money has no value in *that* way, and yet you expected in your prophecies today to teach us how to spend the same.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Teach us what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: To teach us. You were expected in this country today. Could you make comment on the prophecy--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What prophecy?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --that your currency has no face value let's say, but only the teaching. Whereas our currency you can spend it on open market--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Teachings--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --but it says \"In God We Trust\"--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Teachings are the currency?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can anybody comment for me?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [inaudible chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm? Anybody? Did you say teachings being currency?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Teachings being currency.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: In America, eh?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In America. How about in Tibet?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well momentarily let's say, Tibetan money is used for amulets, okay? And you cannot spend it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Amulet.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --[INAUDIBLE] but you can spend the teaching. And we were expected, according to Padmasambava in the eighth century, in this country to teach us. And what I'm asking from you let's say, is perhaps a discourse on the prophecies and how to spend our energy that you give us?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [INAUDIBLE] [Laughter] What prophecy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How would you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What is she saying? She's talking about how to spend the teachings you're going to give us? What to do with them, how to use them correctly, in relation to America, where money is a type of teaching like education [INAUDIBLE], geared towards gaining money. And, you know, in relation to spending money, how to spend money, how to spend teaching. I hope. [Laughter; chatter] That's what I got.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is that right?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Or we can take in on a different path let's say. I'm more interested in the short path today.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Short path?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: That I didn't get. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=1465.0,1650.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What does it say on Tibetan money? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nothing philosophical. [Laughter] Probably has eight auspicious symbols, and six long life symbols, longevity symbols on it. And the writing doesn't say very much: \"The Currency of the Celestial Government.\" [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: That's pretty philosophical. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Heavenly Appointed Government, Celestial Government.\" \"The Ruler of the Temporal and Spiritual Way.\" [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Not much huh?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not very much.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat the latest Tibetan coin that had been circulated before the Chinese takeover, was a coin with the three symbols of friendship. Symbols. That is otter with the fish's head; it's a friendship between the two, the two enemies making friends. And, what is that... a lion with a garuda's head; that's supposed to be enemies. And a conch shell with crocodile's head peering, peeping out of the inside. The three symbols of friendship. But that money is very short-lived. [Laughs; laughter] Only about two years, or three years.\r\n\r\n\r\nAlso, sometime the attitude to money and this eight auspicious symbols that money is on, is regarded as-- money as a whole is regarded as what's called \"yun.\" Which means -- \"yun\" means \"prosperity\", or fundamental wealth. Which is a sort of force of the wealth, rather than actual wealth, in terms of having a lot of wealth. But there is a belief in abstract sort of energy passes through one person to the next person. And the abstract sort of magnetize-- magnetizing quality; gathering wealth, and radiating wealth. That kind of abstract quality could pass through you through other people. So the old tradition of-- in Tibet giving-- if you have to pay money to somebody, they take out of pocket and rub on their collar, and then give it to the person. Is sort of transference of yun to your collar, so you don't transfer your yun to the other person [laughter], but just purely give them money. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=1650.0,1899.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: In the transferring of merit, let's say, was it not gold that ultimately undermined Tibet, and the politicians let's say? The flag carries the trade, and what brought the Tibetans out into the American sphere, in teaching us in this country here?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Teaching?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Was it not gold? Was it not the use of gold, and the want of gold, that transferred--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gold?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I didn't follow you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Too many people wanted too many things, let's say, even though prophecy said that Tibetans would be in America in this age. So wondering let's say, could you comment on--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Does it say that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --on so many in your country misusing the gold, and undermining the teachings or...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What is the prophecy? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What is the prophecy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm not sure. I'm not sure myself, at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah, what prophecy was it anyway?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe she could tell us. SPEAKER5: Padmasambhava?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well there are many, eh, but just one let's say, if it's okay. Having lived among the Tibetans, they used to give us yak cheese to make our cheeks rosy. And coming back-- being sent back to this country let's say, the first class with Lama Tharthang Tulku, he mentioned a prophecy from the eighth century. Padmasambhava wrote this down. They knew to the time, the date, and the month when the Chinese would be taking over Tibet let's say. And that the people of Tibet would be dispersed among rosy-cheeked people who would accept good teaching. [Laughter] So perhaps, Rinpoche, you could explain [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sounds like Scotland. [Laughter; laughs] Rosy-cheeked. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, prophecy... there was one prophecy says that at the end Tibet will be under China, and Tibetans would be scattered outside of Tibet. But I don't remember rosy-cheeked people. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nWell there's another prophecy says that after-- in-- after Tibet is conquered by China then Russians will come down from upper Tibet. Another invader come from lower Tibet, and somebody else come from the middle. And they have a big battle there, big war there. And also it is said that the teaching will go around the world, clockwise. When one part of the area it says-- is supposedly Dark Age, but that would be most fertile ground to receive the teaching. And the same way the teaching will travel around world, the globe, supposedly.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut then there is also-- the other problem is that when we talk about round the world, it's-- it could be around India, or it could around the world. Because the world-- the word \"world\" is \"Jambudvipa\"; that's the certain continent of the East. Believing the Earth is being flat, and Mount Meru is being the middle, with the other continents around it. So the prophecy doesn't say the teaching will go around Mount Meru, the prophecy says teaching will go around Jambudvipa island-- the continent itself. So, don't know, anything could be read in terms of prophecies.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd there's one thing mentioned also in the prophecies, that people would be carrying their astrological charts, everybody will carry their astrological charts. That is a time when the teachings should be ready to be presented. [Laughs; laughter] And people begin to wear rags and eat--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Brown rice? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --bullshit.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Bullshit? TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughs; laughter] That's where the natural force of dakinis begin to offend, when such barbaric way of dealing with their body. They demand that they should pay more respect to their body. Not just eat bullshit and wear rags. It's not rags alone but it's \"retul\" which means a sort of \"sack.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Sack cloth.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [unknown incident] [Laughter; laughs] I suppose that could mean sort of the culture becomes very rugged and is very crude. Instead of appreciating the civilization and its beauty, people run into the other extreme. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=1899.0,2373.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Rinpoche, do you think Tibetan money was ever actually used as currency to transmit the teaching? The money ever has been used that way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not as in-- not more or less than we are doing here. Except money doesn't say any philosophical-- have any philosophical remarks on it. [Laughs] Or theological. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nWell like reading of Marpa's story, and Naropa asks, \"How much gold do you have, before I transmit teaching to you?\" And he gives this-- they used to have a solid gold made out of knot of eternity. And size of-- bigger knot of eternity is bigger value of course, and small is smaller. So he gives eight knot of eternities of gold to Naropa. or something like that. And he says, \"I know you have more; give me some more.\" [Laughter] And finally he had to empty all his bag. And then Naropa throws up in the air. And he stamps on the ground, and the whole ground turned into gold. And every pebble become gold. He says \"I've got much more gold than you have actually. [Laughter; laughs] Nevertheless I'll give you teaching.\" [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nThere are a lot of stories like that, when the Tibetans went to India. Actually India doesn't seem to have changed very much at all. That they always demand, you know, they always bargain with the teaching. But of course if you're student you have to give in; otherwise you won't get full value of the teaching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=2373.0,2508.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: How is one able to place the value on the teaching?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose if the teaching becomes more and more expensive. As lineage goes on and on and on, there are more people working hard at it, and the more people sacrifice their lives, so teaching becomes more and more expensive. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Inflation. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] But also it has been said that the best gift is practice, full commitment. And the secondary gift is service, physical service. And the third gift is in-kind. So there is that aspect as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: What do you mean in-kind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Money, gold. But, there again, that it connected with the secondary gift of service, there's some things that Marpa Lotsawa raised up is that you still have to support yourself, teacher's not going to support you unless-- in spite of he's going to help you, serve you. [Laughs] That what Milarepa did.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt seems that any gift is a symbol of commitment. Of course the whole idea of value, like on gold, ancient days in Tibet was-- you would work for gold, you have to collect them. So that of course it's valuable; costs more effort and energy. So giving certain amount of gift is signs of commitment, that your effort is being spent on the right directions of teaching. I suppose that could be said with anything, any situation, whether those days in Tibet, when the Tibetans went to India, received teachings, or our days here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=2508.0,2682.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche, is there a-- do you think there's a place for livelihood by begging, nowadays? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's, again, very complicated, it seems, and not at all a simple one. Original idea of begging is just simplicity, mendicant concept. But now I suppose that you feel self-conscious, that you're leading a life of world-- renowned [ed: renounced] worldly things, and you ask for food. But certainly, I mean you could do that in India, definitely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But you think-- you know, when Buddha started to beg, there was already a tradition of begging going on--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --and he sort of just fit in with? Or is it impractical for Buddhists to try to introduce that particular Buddhist custom to a country like this one that doesn't have it? Is it like pushing, you know, going up against society too much?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. You might start begging with the communes, visit the communes, and beg there. [Laughter] Of course we could start from that way. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=2682.0,2781.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: But there are a number of young people who-- one portion of the young people who seem to beg. And they are very well-dressed, very often, and very healthy-looking, and they just-- they don't-- it doesn't call begging, it's called panhandling or something like that. They just ask if you have a quarter or a dime or something.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Spare change.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: And there are quite a number of them in-- [laughter] what? And their lack of generosity it always gets me mad, because they are so matter-of-fact about it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Their method is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Matter-of-fact about it, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: I'm no longer in the society so--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the trouble is that if you start begging, that you have to have some philosophy behind it, not make money, that you're begging. And that leads into all sorts of complicated double-cross, in terms of spiritual materialism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=2781.0,2861.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Is giving money to people who are begging that are really kind of destitute, is that being compassionate towards them and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there again that could be also questioned, actually. That whether you're being blind compassionate or whether you're actually being compassionate. All-- in many cases helping is not best thing to do. There's always that aspect of it. But I suppose there one have to use one's own judgement rather than any kind of prescribed patterns.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What is the relationship between accepting alms and begging, and accepting welfare?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose that's closest to it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Would you say that's okay, for-- ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there again that-- I mean, well in the case of begging, like in India or in Tibet, you have to spend a long time in walking, and you have to sacrifice lot of cold weathers, and you have to really lead sort of life of beggar, in a complete sense. And you can't have luxuries at all all the time. I mean this case that in many cases a lot of people find this is very luxurious thing to do. So there again it could be questioned, somehow. Doesn't seem to be a hundred percent non-karma practice. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Karma-proof. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In fact if you are taking money from the nation, you're collecting much heavier karma. There is a particular term in Tibetan called \"kor\", which means \"gift by trust\" are much-- have very powerful karmic debts, because somebody give you gift by trust, trusting you. And it should be spent properly, it should be used properly. And there are all sorts of stories of-- the story of a lama with a black horse, who is very successful at collecting gifts from upper Tibet. And his monastery become extremely rich: gold roofs and golden saddle and everything. And when he died he was reborn in the ocean, as gigantic fish, and hundreds of little fishes nesting on his body and eating his body. Those who have made a gift become other little fishes, and begin to eat on him. And they eat him up to his bones, but they never managed to touch his brain or heart, so he grows again his flesh rejuvenated again. And then this eating process goes on again and again. That was a story that we used to hear almost every day, in the lectures. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: We're having fish for dinner tonight [laughs].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I think we're having fish for dinner tonight. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Are we? [Laughter; laughs] On the other way around. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=2861.0,3110.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Rinpoche, what kind of karmic situation do you get into-- like another situation that happens these days where people try to sell their creations for like to the highest bidder. Like a rock and roll star, any kind of artist these days, like the whole system is geared to-- even the people who handle it are geared to, you know, getting the most amount of money they can possibly get for it. I wonder what kind of karma that puts on you?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose there again it's how much you abuse your talent, because you have a name. And how much effort you put as you gain your karmic fortune so to speak, at the beginning, how much you maintain that effort still continuously. And it is very much depend on that. It's like when an artist painting very beautiful pictures at the beginning, which made him well known, real masterpiece. But then because of he receives so much money, he could abuse his work, and finally just purely canvas with his name on it, and it becomes expensive thing. And somehow that seems level of being too brave. I'm sure legally nobody can challenge him, in this life, but karmically, he's going too far; something's going to happen. [Laughs] That happens with a lot of cases that sort of you become self-made man at beginning. That you become real worker, hard worker. And you build your situation up. And once you got into the top then you become-- begin to look down of all the effort that you put in, and become too comfortable. And begin to make all sorts of mistakes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=3110.0,3237.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: I find it hard to believe that a real artist would do that. Because if he has been-- if he has succeeded in making a masterpiece then he's after something else. And I don't see how he can erase what the something else is, and if he did then he would be suffering right in this very life; it doesn't have to go anywhere else, or be reborn. He will get his karmic results right here because he will be going contrary to something he already has experienced.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean people always could interpret just ink blop on something, than created by a famous master. And people could interpret as how artistic talent that is, that just one stroke, nothing but one stroke on just blank paper. Just one little stroke or just one little dot, is such a revelatory thing. And *he* probably begin to believe in it as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=3237.0,3312.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: What if you see somebody as-- somebody comes-- suppose you have a shop, and somebody comes swaggering in with a tremendous feeling of pompousness about how much money they have -- they have a lot of money and they're really laying it on thick about it, you can see that that's the whole... their whole scene. And [laughs] you have a little-- you have a pebble that you picked up from the beach or something like that and you claim it's an important archeological vestige, and you sell it to them for five thousand dollars just because you can see that-- just because they stink about their money so much. What do you think about that? [Laughter] I mean, you know, just because you know they do it all by themselves, you know, because they become so important.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: It seems like feeding them their own karma.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, then what you do with that money?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: No, no.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Then what would you do with that money?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Oh! Oh, what would you do with that money?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Buy a pebble. SHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Buy a pebble. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Well it's kind of Robin Hood-- SHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Yeah. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --attitude.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: What happened to him?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Probably he end up quite good. [Laughter] If he could do that wholeheartedly that's okay, I think, nothing wrong with that at all. But then what you do with the money and all sorts of other problems comes up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=3312.0,3424.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Aren't there bandits in Tibet, that do very much like Robin Hood; they rob the caravans?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They're lot of them like that, yes, very beautiful people. They rob the-- what you call bandits are one of the most trusting person. They live really full life, completely full life. And they're very spiritual person. And once you made friends with them, they are really always solid and open, and they somehow also very tough. They don't just beat you down, but they have all sorts of way of creating awe.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Awe?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Awe, yeah. Wrath. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Are there any in this country? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe. [laughs] Tibetan bandits? [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=3424.0,3519.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: There's sort of a comparable idea in this culture of-- the idea that you-- it's all right to rip off a large corporation or a giant supermarket, or something that's imposing. That again it's not calling it stealing [INAUDIBLE]. But what-- is the karma just as great for that kind of stealing as for regular stealing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I'm not sure, that also there is-- depends on the basic attitude. And that thing could be done purely because of that impersonality of it. Or else a notion of sort of vandalism, and basic hate for society. You know, sort of basic subtle, psychological aggression is coming out. And you feel that this is best or safe way of expressing aggression. They find it convenient situations. So it very much depends on the I suppose individuals.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd generally, trying to destroy public properties, like government properties are-- could be said as the governments running wrong direction, and not being beneficial to the people. But at the same time, dealing with that sort of national karma is-- would be say extremely, extremely heavy. That you are sharing with everybody's karma at the same time, you are destroying-- you're having more debt. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=3519.0,3634.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: There are a number of people who won't buy something unless it costs a lot of money, because [INAUDIBLE]. But if you have something to sell, if you don't put a high price on it, you're not offering it to them to be able to buy. But gearing the price when you really don't feel that the effort put in is worth that much money, is that being a bandit, or is that just offering to them also something that they might want?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If that things-- I'm not sure. It's very difficult to say, it's very intricate. I mean, you could have another sort of matter-of-fact feel, that if that object makes that person happy because you pay lot of money. [Laughs] But on the other hand, just because of doing that doesn't seem to help, because it put him more prestigious situation of collecting further thing, which is that you're part of his chain, of chain reaction; you're one of the rings.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: It's [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=3634.0,3725.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: How about when you-- instead of having a job where you have a-- you're hired on a straight salary, you would deal-- or in a situation where you bargain for money; in other words you make something and sell it, or you bargain for what the value of service is, how does that relate to generosity? If I made something I'm going to sell it to you, on the one hand I can be generous and give it to you cheaply. On the other hand I can try and get as much money as possible for it, in being faithful to myself as a worker or craftsman.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there again-- you mean how does it-- how would effect you or how would effect me, as buyer?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I was thinking of the seller, the worker.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The worker, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: If he earns money and he puts it back-- he has to bargain with who's ever buying his products or services. And on the one hand he can be generous, and possibly undervalue his own product or services.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You see a lot of people I think sometimes feel guilty about charging too much or-- because they want to be spiritual. So they think they should babysit for twenty-five cents an hour, or they should make something bec-- and sell it real cheaply because it really didn't-- it wasn't so much work for them, even if somebody else sells it for more.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's-- depends on how much he feels he's being a good person. I mean each time when he charges less price, he get a greater reward than just money, psychologically. So he could build himself up that way. Pride. And you feel that karmically you got ahead of karma.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So he might be best off just trying to get a lot of money for it and avoiding the pride issue.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that also depends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=3725.0,3872.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Would the main dependence be on what he does with the money?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Would it depend, would the most important point be what he does with the money?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so as well, yes. And also the philosophy behind it is the question. How much psychological boost do you get out of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: We're only talking about how much you should charge for something; that's very relative to what somebody else is charging or what the average wage per hour is and it gets into that type of thing. Whereas say an object that averagely-- you know the average selling price is fifteen dollars, and you're putting a certain amount of them out in which you only need is charge ten to live what you consider comfortable for yourself. Then it wouldn't make sense to sell-- to charge it for fifteen because that's what the conventional price is, you know at that time period in the area you're in. Because if you're going to make yourself starve on the other hand, then it's a different story, also relative to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well if all things are made just purely to support oneself, and there's no sort of higher religious or philosophical implication behind it, it seems quite a straightforward relationship, very simple one. Whereas if there's some other element, of being spiritually involved with a person doing his practice buying and selling work, it's-- could be not very profitable, in the long run. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=3872.0,3988.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: I don't understand one thing. How can it be good to just build up your self-image if it perhaps is after all very hypocritical thing to do, because you are not being truthful.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, yeah. But people do that.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: But it almost sounded to me as though you would have advised that this is a good thing to do, that one should act in a certain way whether one feels whether it's truthful or not.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Act in a certain way?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: I mean, be generous or give something for less, although it is-- it's-- in order to maintain a facade, I don't think one should maintain a facade because--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, I quite agree, yeah. Unless it's purely means of survival.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Oh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Just for your own upkeep. But there are all sorts of facets. About money. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=3988.0,4067.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche, what about the thing that you were talking about last night, about money being [INAUDIBLE]. I was thinking about our experience in Colorado, and where we gave the seminar in Allenspark, and we made very elaborate arrangements for people who had no money, the idea being that everyone new that didn't have money could give something. And yet inevitably when we go to talk to the person, you know about money, about arrangements, you know, something, some kind of giving from them, it would be-- it was like an attack. It didn't matter that the whole thing was set up the same for everybody. With each person you know, to some degree, sometimes very intense, and there'd be this feeling that, you know, that this person [INAUDIBLE] he felt that he was being personally attacked. And if it got-- if it was involving you know a specific sum of money, it made it even that much more of an attack. And I think that this goes beyond anything about, you know, ideology of being without money or any kind of trip like that. But there was something that, you know, that this person felt that fundamentally, you know, you were attacking him, in a funny way. And I'm not really clear in my mind about why it is that money is the key to that. You know, sort of the catalyst.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that means he's got-- this person has more fundamental sore point on money, which he hadn't resolved.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But it seemed that way with almost everyone, I mean sometimes very weak, but-- There were some people that were [INAUDIBLE], I guess. But so many, I mean you know... You know we all watched Bill, spending a lot of time handling that. And after about three days he just looked harried, he was flinching every time he walked down the row. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] There's so many people.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sure, yeah, I mean that's-- that's why it is a very important thing, precisely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=4067.0,4220.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 27]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: What is it not to have any money? I mean some people say they don't have money, but they have the car and they have a stereo and they have, you know, lots of other things that they're really invested into it. So it's kind of threatening, when you say you don't have any money. And[INAUDIBLE] trying to sell you things, [INAUDIBLE]..\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's very, very powerful thing. Extremely powerful thing. That somehow basic, fundamental attitude to money seems to be runs right through, centuries to centuries. Whereas the other relationships, like parents' relationship to their children and other situations could be shuffled around, with the social situations, but somehow money seem to be the basic point, so therefore left sort of behind. And becomes very old-fashioned situation still goes on. As well as karmically becomes very binding factor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=4220.0,4301.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 28]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: I think probably there were so many people in Boulder, because so many people are coming to these things, they think they are running away from something, then later on they might discover that isn't so. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] But they are running away to begin with, and they want to be saved, and they get outraged because wanting to be saved; I mean that is really awful. [Laughter] [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it happens, anyway. [Laughter] If you run you have to run, you have to use your legs and your breath, your blood cir-- your heartbeat and everything. It does cost them something. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=4301.0,4338.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 29]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Do you think part of the problem is that people in the spiritual scene have with money is that they try to emulate their teachers who they misunderstand as not working for money? Like you work for money in order to eat and live, and you have a job, and you work. It's not-- you don't beg, you know. I mean that every guru has his job and he works for his living. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] Some beg and some lecture [laughter], you know. That they all have work you know and they-- and you-- we're your boss, in a sense, and you sort of work for us. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean there is that aspect as well. But somehow often, if you presented that case, those who really heavily psychologically involvement with the money, they wouldn't take that. It's their own problem some hasn't solved.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well they might not take it, but isn't it true that-- that it might help a little that everybody thinks that you read the books and you say that it just wasn't-- that people think that it wasn't an issue in Milarepa's life, you know. Very mu-- especially after he got through with Marpa, I mean, and went through his apprenticeship. That it was no longer-- that it wasn't... Like begging looks like a glorious thing on paper, but like you said it's actually the physical part of it is very difficult, that it's a kind of like working at a job. And that the food is the pay for walking around with your bowl. That people misunderstand the religious life as being, you step out of it: that there is no more job, no more work. Not that it's so much better but just that it's easier and \"if my teacher does it why don't I?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: My teacher doesn't do?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: He doesn't work, he doesn't have a job.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: He doesn't have a-- he doesn't deal for money or anything like that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. But he does. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah. But you think it's more-- for those of us who have big problems with it, it's more of psycho-- deeper psychological thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think partly that reinforces the whole thing. That there's a general tendency of spirituality is being away from the world, the worldly concerns, and the money is being the heart of the worldly concerns. And somehow that they find very irritating, when the money still have to concerned worldly, concern with the spirituality as well. Which means that spirituality is also worldly concern.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=4338.0,4522.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 30]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Which do you think comes first? Does a person who has a problem with money, therefore he looks for a guru, or does-- [laughter] or does he develop the problem afterwards? It seems that it's more of a problem with us than with working people, that they're more straightforward about it -- how much they like money and they want it, they work for it. You know, people that work day in and day out and want to accumulate things. Is it a-- does that make any sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. To world-- that somehow that spirituality *is* worldly concern, in other word. In fact much more subtle one. Without samsara, there couldn't be nirvana at all. So they're not getting out of anywhere, they're not escaping from anywhere. The ubiquitous mara, or yama still follow you everywhere. [Laughs] I suppose spirituality is largely based on escape, or relief. The ultimate pleasure that we been talking the other day. And when money is brought in that search for ultimate pleasure it's tremendous shock. You know, money still catches up with you. It's a terrible thing. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=4522.0,4639.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 31]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is the problem that we separate too much the spirituality and living in the world? We place such a separation on it that we're making spirituality the goal in itself, and not using that to live.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely yeah. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: That-- and that being spiritual is a means, or a way of living.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Way of living, precisely, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: It almost seems as if having, you know, very elaborate monastic setup is sort of attempt to reinforce the attitude of spirituality being an escape. Where you can just sort go live as a monk and escape from all your worldly concerns, and just live in a monastery, not have to deal with money or the outside world or anything like that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, theoretically. But in the practice each monasteries have a bursar. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Yeah, but to the ordinary monk he's not really concerned with all that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All the time: they been told to be economical, switch lights off. It's the same as living in any other situations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=4639.0,4741.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 32]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: But he still doesn't have to worry about the roof over his head.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He does. Definitely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Well I mean, presumably the whole institution would have to go first, for him to have to worry.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, what happens in the Catholic tradition, for instance, is that before you commit yourself in the monastery, you give all your inheritance or what you're going to be earning, what you have, everything. So that sort of makes your entrance to the monastery. Or otherwise you'll be told to contribute something -- work, or some more money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=4741.0,4789.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 33]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Did the monks in Tibet have to pay for their food or for the upkeep of their-- I've read somewhere that they had to buy their own food, each monk, so--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKE11: --they had to use their own money.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Situations are different in Tibet. You don't live in one building in Tibet anyway, in monasteries. You have your own... beer can. [Laughs] You have your own house. You see what happens that you're supposed to find three sponsors: one is a sponsor of your education, and one is sponsor of your spiritual development, one is a sponsor of your welfare, when you join the monastery, and you find those three. And you find either of these three people might put you up, in their house. And so you enter and you live with them, as household life. Maybe there are six or seven people living in the same house. And you may be asked to be a cook to begin with, or water-fetching, or collecting firewood, at the beginning. And your parents will bring you food supplies, your share, at the beginning. And you work on that way.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd a certain stage then you-- when you become equal to the others, there's a certain time of the year that you go out for collecting food. Possibly twice. In the winter-- early winter you go out to the lower land; you collect grain, visit family after family. When you are well-equipped with giving spiritual instructions and helping them as well, you go around. And in the summer you go up the highlands, you collect barley, you-- I mean you collect butter and cheese and things like that. Or else that you been-- you become one of family teachers, of the local household. Each village would have their own teacher. So you spend something like three or four months in their household life. And you be their meditation teacher. Every member of household and family would come to you privately receive instructions from you. And in return you've been given bulk of food, which you bring back to your monastery. And you live on that, you share that with others, where the others been doing also same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd if you are noviced monk you can go back to your own house, your own home. And particularly in the autumn, you can help them harvest, you know, work or things like that. And you still supposed to have contact with your family. And always the people always you get some gift, particularly in terms of food, in return for teaching.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn the case of like festivals in monasteries, like winter festival, New Year festivals, and particular festivals have-- before you create a festival in the monastery, decide to have a festival, the abbots and the people in charge of the monastery would meet together and they decide, to buy property or receive property from another landlord. So you have property for that particular festival, which probably consist of three or four fields of barley, and twenty or thirty heads of animals, a certain amount of money. And put the whole property turn to a house.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo what happens is that poorest people in the vicinity would be asked to be in charge of this properties, they have to run the business for it. They sell the grain or they sell the butter and everything. And in the return they get a certain amount of-- make a certain amount of profit; they allowed to keep the profit themselves. And any extra they made out of is certain fixed amount of grain, a certain fixed amount of butter and tea, and things should be offered to the monastery as a source of the prop-- source of the festival.\r\n\r\n\r\nWhich means that there will be a regular tea while the festivals holding, offer to the whole assembly of monks. Maybe they are one thousand or two thousand monks, or three hundred or a hundred, at least; not less than hundred. And there will be certain meals being presented. And a certain sort of festival equipment: things like the objects for the shrine and things like that. And also feed the guests in the-- whole neighboring monasteries would be entertained by that particular profit you made out of that property. So every festival and every ceremony has its own property. So that's the how the central body of monasteries be retained-- maintained. Whereas individual maintenance is just they have to do it by themselves. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=4789.0,5188.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 34]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Do you think one of the basic confusions of money may be that in a way all money is the same? I mean one dollar is the same as another dollar. And another way it seems different because of the way it's acquired. I mean some people have to work very hard to make some money, because they don't have any special talents or education. Other people who have had a good education it's very easy for them to get a job, and make quite a bit of money. Or it can come-- they inherit it or it can be stolen or you can trick somebody or all the different ways it can come. Which makes it seem any particular money sort of different, the different feeling about it, from the person, the way he got it. Or even in getting money from somebody else, like if someone owes you some money, and they're very poor, and they don't pay you you don't mind so much. If they have a lot of money and they don't you you get very angry. So there seems to be something-- something there in the difference. The money is exactly the same legally, but it's different. It seems different the way it's been acquired.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's the thing behind it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Well it just seems to be basic to a lot of the whole psychological things people have about money, just [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: It's a contradiction.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Yes, I suppose that people have to work for manual labor to make money would feel more valuable in that sense, than people who can make money easily--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --find it much more easy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: But wouldn't that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Oh, sorry--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=5188.0,5302.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 35]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Isn't that begrudging, or the attitude of money also go deeper by-- because you always feel that you've devoted a part of your life, whether it be forty hours a week, but that time has gone to acquire that money. Isn't it the attitude of that time spent-- is not proper, so that it feels like the time was wasted, like you were a slave to the time of acquiring the money, and the money is a means to make up for that emptiness again.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there's generally a hesitation to work. Because when you're short of money that means you have to put some effort. And go through the whole trip of getting job and commit yourself into different situations, which are not very appealing, and often source of pain. And that pain is attribute to worldly pain, without any-- anything reward, you just purely suffer for it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=5302.0,5401.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 36]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: But certainly there wouldn't-- that's due to the attitude of in the way you go about working.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Attitude of?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: In the way you go about *to* work. I'm--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's also part of the attitude to work as well, because you don't like work fundamentally. And you're seeking some transcendental pleasure. In the case of people who are interested in the spirituality. And that seem to be very unromantic, too much too close to the-- to home. I mean it's too sort of contradictory somehow: in order to receive highest pleasure, bliss, that you have to go to the extreme of getting to the original pain that you escaped out of.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: So how do you resolve that problem?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, by-- for one thing by seeing the spirituality is not pleasure seeking. And your work is also spirituality, but not with pleasure, not with any reward. You're not trying to gain anything but you're trying to go deeper, and unlearn, undo yourself. And nothing to do with the pleasure at all actually. Spirituality is you face the facts of life. So you might learn facts of life in working. And then one's relationship to money maybe becomes different. Because you have fundamental-- fundamentally your attitude to work is been different, so money becomes naturally easier. Nothing some-- not something evil. Nothing evil about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=5401.0,5546.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 37]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: It could eas-- also even being just something extra that came along with what you were doing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Such as?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I mean, it would seem to me that if I could approach work in that way, without any expectations and without feeling like I'm slaving myself for no reason, but if the work itself were a reason, or if I saw it as something, money would be just something extra that came along.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, but [laughs] there is something dangerous about that attitude at the same time, as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I don't understand.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the work is-- work is also... real, as much as the spirituality practice. So work doesn't have to have extra meaning behind it, but that *is* spirituality in itself. You see work doesn't need another reinforcement -- \"you're working for good reason, therefore what you're doing is valid.\" That means that there's a possibilities of that you may not able to relate with the work at all, except there is good reason behind the work. But work is just purely mechanical still. And quite possible that you are missing point of spirituality altogether. Spirituality is not other than work, just get to the point. [Laughs] That work *is* spirituality, work is real. As much as anything else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=5546.0,5675.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 38]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But doesn't that depend on the kind of work you do? I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We gone through that yesterday.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: --working in an advertising agency [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything else, I would say, any work. We gone through that yesterday.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Anything?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But that somewhat work it seems it is sort of meaningless to me. That it's like the making eight different kinds of soapsuds instead of one, to do the job, you know that kind of thing. And trying to promote products that don't really-- aren't really necessary. And kind of a built in obsolescence with a lot of-- like things in cars, if you mentioned already, they like wear out very quickly. A lot of sort of fraudulent kind of work is going on, and people take part in it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You say that's meaningless?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yeah, that people would do that after a number of years get kind of [INAUDIBLE]. I mean the work certainly isn't-- that kind of work certainly doesn't seem very spiritual.\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=5675.0,5750.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 39]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: What about the frustration that people have, who have money? And they're constantly frustrated because they're always buying something. Isn't this a typical thing of speed? They keep on going from one object to another, they don't enjoy any of it, but they have to keep on consuming. Sort of like Don Juan of consumption.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Even people without money do that.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Yes even people without money.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: And it's a tremendous amount of frustration that is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But it needs company.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Beg pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They need company. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: I don't get it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Understandable.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What do you mean they need company?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That object to accompany you.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: [Laughs] Oh. I see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=5750.0,5800.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 40]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Does this dislike for work come about just because people tell you you're going to dislike it? Or is it deeper than that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: People what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Peop-- you know you're brought up, sort of, to believe that you're not going to like work.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so partly, and partly also their resentment, that you had to put yourself in such painful situations.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Well, is it really painful, or again, you know, are you told that it's painful?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there's a relative question of pleasure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean somebody is going for yachting, vacation, touring Europe, and they're very happy, supposedly. That \"here I am stuck with this little thing here, doing repetitive work, over and over again.\" It's a relative situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Yeah but if in the question of pain and pleasure comes more or less from your upbringing--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely yeah,\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: --how--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --your criterias, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Well then how does it start? You know, if your parents get it from their parents and so on. Why does it come about at all?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Needn't be. Well it seemed that's what we are working on actually. Fundamental aspect of the pain and pleasure, how to come about, good and bad. Never mind about the information that you received, but fundamental how you relate with yourself from that point of view, pain and pleasure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=5800.0,5928.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 41]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: A long while back you were talking about the karmic consequences of ripping off a supermarket or sabotaging a marine base, or something like that. And you said that it could be-- it's sort of like an act against an impersonal institution, or impersonality. You said it could be done impersonally or on the other hand it could be done aggressively, or with hatred destructively. Did you mean that stealing, or this kind of thing, if it's done impersonally is okay? Dealings with money are better done impersonally. Did you mean anything like that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughing] I don't think so. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Oh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNPA RINPOCHE: It was a question arose that giving mon-- taking money from the rich and making use of it, properly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=5928.0,6005.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 42]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Rinpoche, you said that we all have a karmic link with money. And then that money only-- I mean what is the fundamental thing that we have a karmic link with, that in this case is represented by money?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is the fundamental--?\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: What is-- what does money symbolize, that we actually have a karmic link with? I mean it's not money exactly, because money for one thing only exists in rather highly developed societies.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well it's a fundamental relationship of that you have to make yourself... in the situation of relating with earth, relating with the actual work situation. So money comes from sort of work, it seems, that you're actually relating with situations, which we don't like. Because if we relate with the actual situations there, then that situation is going to tell you quite bluntly, \"I'm going to reject you, I'm going to accept you.\" In both cases it's quite painful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=6005.0,6124.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 43]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What is the painful about there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well pain is that you have to set yourself into a different-- relate with different things, which you really don't want to, fundamentally. That you'd rather prefer if they relate to us rather than we have to open ourselves, and relate because we want to keep our shelter, our basic ego shell intact. And once anything demands to step out of the shell, and communicate, then whole thing becomes very complicated.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKE3: But I wonder what is the basic-- the pain there in other words, why is that seen as painful? There must be some actual pain somewhere involved.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, it's losing some kind of security, of maintenance of ego intact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=6124.0,6192.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 44]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: That still would be a pain by association; in other words that's not an actual pain, that's still-- that's because you think it would be painful. But there must be somewhere an actual pain, to which all these other things can be associated so that we can think all kinds of things are painful.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sure--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: There must be somewhere an experience of pain.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that there-- you couldn't have pain without association. It's the association itself, the duality itself, is the pain. In a sense you could say I suppose. The basic notion of you can't maintain by yourself but you have to have something else to relate to. When there's something else came and you are there as well then there's conflict.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: That seems to me like it's a frightening situation, but that experience there would not be pain, unless it was...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But because it concerns you directly. That you have no other way of relating with that at all; it concern you directly. Directly to the center.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But I mean it still seems like a fictional thing. [Laughter] It seems--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Of course, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: It seems like there are some more real-- that to have a fictional pain, there must somewhere have been a pain.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There wouldn't be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=6192.0,6296.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 45]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: You don't think there's a possibility of a hurt? I mean, the work situation, as far as I can remember it, for myself seemed to arise [laughter] when I went to school. And I went to school and people said \"do this, do that,\" and I was told things that I didn't understand, I was made to do things that I didn't understand. You typified that pain as ego not wanting to go out of its shelter. Wasn't it also myself being hurt?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yourself being hurt?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yes. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: For instance, if a baby is hungry and he's not fed--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --that's actual pain, isn't it? That's not-- I mean as opposed to these kind of fictions, that's a fundamental pain, that's--.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, because that is also a relative thing. The baby was full, and then suddenly hungry. It had to relate with that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: And I mean there's no, you know, ego operating in the baby there, there's no question of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But there's some basis of something, going on always. A basis of two, in other word. We needn't say ego, but we say basis of duality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: And the duality there is the baby and the food?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Baby and food, yeah. And happy and discomforting.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But it seems like there is not there a mind to make up the pain, for if the pain-- it's an actual-- a little more actual pain. Or would you say it's-- ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Actual pain come from pleasure. Which is also ultimate pleasure, in a sense. Related with the body, your version of the body. In the case of baby it seem to be based on hunger is insecure, and it being not hungry is secure. That kind of losing your home and you're accepted into your home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=6296.0,6438.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 46]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: But is that an ego function?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well ego is not necessarily a big thing in this case; it's just duality. Relating situation is ego relativity. \"That\" opposed to \"this.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Ah. So do-- you seem to characterize ego as basically something that we should get rid of. That basically things become a hopeless divide. I mean in a very fundamental sense, of crying when we are hungry.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: And what's wrong about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nothing. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: So why should we try and get rid of [INAUDIBLE] of ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we are not trying to get rid of that kind of fundamental duality necessarily. But that also contains other possibilities. It wouldn't remain as simple as that, all the time. So in other word we are not trying to get rid of ego but we're trying to get rid of the chain reaction of ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: A simple ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The simple ego could transform into wisdom. It is wisdom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=6438.0,6524.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 47]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You were saying to him that ego was different from \"I\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ego has a basic instinctive awareness of \"this\" and \"that.\" And also it has the tendency to grow \"I\" more. Which is grows with aggression.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: But it seems like the baby-- the baby, very young baby does not have the \"this\" \"that\" before it has the pain. In other words it's the fact of things like hunger and being fed and not being fed, and all those experiences that initiate the baby into the world. So then the baby sees all the food comes from there and \"I can get it this way or not get it that way.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: The first-- first comes the hunger and there's no conception at all. I mean the pain of hunger, the baby doesn't even know it's hungry yet, it just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well he feels insecure, insecure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Yeah because he's not going to survive without food.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: But I mean he doesn't know that, he just, that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No but somehow instinctively it feels that way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The hunger is more connected with loss, and death. And being fed is more connected with gaining--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --and surviving.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Well, see that's the situation of the pain and pleasure; all the rest is very fictional elaboration.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's still what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I mean that's the basic kind of given situation of life, and the rest of these things seem to be fictional elaboration.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well we tend to grow much more than that. That there is a fixed notion of pain is being pain, and pleasure is being pleasure, particular conceptualized ideas of it. And we are not able to remain child-like quality all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: But is that-- has something to do with the fact that when the baby is-- I mean the baby expresses its-- all its feelings and very immediately, like it cries for when it's hungry, its feedings, whatever. And we don't feel we should do that, it gets very com-- more complicated.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what recommended in the psychological teachings, psychologists. But somehow [laughs] doesn't seem to be any point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=6524.0,6724.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 48]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I've been wondering-- questions that you were talking about something about the view attached to money. How about abstract view, such as watch bands. When I spend money on something that is a luxury or something I don't really need, I get flashes of say, East Pakistanis or Indonese. How does one handle that kind of-- is that a fictional guilt, or do we have a karmic link with these people? Or...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we do have a karmic link, definitely yeah. But there again that giving away money because of guilt, purely, doesn't secure the guilt because the guilt is going to come up anyway, constantly there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=6724.0,6802.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 49]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I run into a kind of guilt about money, on account of-- like it's hard after receiving money for doing some work to have a kind of straightforward feeling about it, as I did some work and this is the amount of money I got. I go through a whole number about whether or not I worked hard enough to get it, you know, and is it really mine? Or maybe they didn't pay me enough? See-- and then there's a kind of feeling that the money isn't really mine. Like the energy that I worked with was mine, but somehow because I tended to be working when the boss was looking, that somehow the money doesn't belong to me, on account of that. And so I want to put it in an appropriate place, and-- by a Buddhist sutra or something, where it belongs. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So, sutra is belong to the boss. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What I meant was that there's a kind of vicious cycle that goes on. That I can't just do-- I find it hard to do the work and accept the money and well \"that's that.\" That the rationalizing about \"well now I've got this money, did I deserve it or not?\" it creates a bad work situation in the future, that it goes on and on like that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What about it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Could you say anything about that? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I could make something up. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well what I meant was, is it necessary to-- you know in order to break that chain reaction is it necessary to actually-- where is the best place to break it? You know what I mean, like by doing real good kind of-- be a real good worker? Or try to stop feeling guilty about whether or not you deserve such high pay?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I don't see any point of whether you have to think you deserve or not. If you don't deserve you wouldn't be there anyway. Deserving is based on situations there. If you don't deserve you wouldn't get the money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=6802.0,6973.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 50]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: That does seem to be related to that thing I've experienced what Bob's talking about. And it-- in my case it seems to be that I feel that all this money coming in and I don't feel like I have suffered to get it. And I somehow feel guilty because I have-- very definitely feel guilty because I don't-- I feel as though somehow or other I should have suffered for this somewhere along the line. And-- or, you know I seem to start from behind all the time. Like I got the first-- I got my first meals and food from my parents and I didn't do anything for it for a long time. And I'm always in debt, it seems. I'm always in debt for the ones that I already got, you know. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: And I seem to have--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's the biggest one of all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=6973.0,7035.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 51]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: It seems somehow that in connection with guilt and work, the word \"guilt\" might be replaced by the word \"resentment\", somehow.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's true. Yeah. Well we could say that you can't really get completely even with anybody. If you're purely trying to get even with the world, somehow there's no end to it. And somehow that what we can do is purely relate with situations, given situations, and work with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nWell I don't see any point of trying to work out what you deserve, what you don't deserve. I could see in the case of like if you're stealing from somebody, or if you're going to murder someone, \"would he be deserved to be murdered by me? Or should I steal because you owe me money?\" [Laughs] There's all sorts of-- the heaviest debt of all is according to the teachings and also common sense is, I suppose, is to your parents. And if she's going to work out a bill, right time when you are in her womb, by the time she took-- she changed every diapers, and every situation that troubles she took for you, until you were able to work out-- work for yourself, paying back the debts. It would be enormous bill. It's very expensive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=7035.0,7195.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 52]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: But one could in certain situations not-- I mean feel resentment. And then you might look at the resentment and not think of it in terms of a bad deal. Or you might discover that there's no amount of money say that [INAUDIBLE]. But you might discover that your relationship, your work relationship with your employer, is basically one which is creating a lot of illusion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Illusion?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Well he might think that you're somebody that you're not. He might think you're more or less somebody who doesn't feel any pain, say.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Any--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Pain.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: I mean I suppose you could go along with that, and try not feel any pain.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because he feels that way?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: You could also-- I mean... he might treat the next person to you the same way.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, he does, I'm sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: So it's not good to go along with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: That he just have to feel the pain and [INAUDIBLE]. I suppose you can enter into that sort of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose you could also say that it's depends on how much this particular job is based on human relationships of that kind, or how much not based on human relationships but purely finding somebody to fill your space. And if you try to go more than that, trying to develop human relationship with the work, probably the boss wouldn't like it at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=7195.0,7301.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 53]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Rinpoche, you're simply saying that-- and then you said that the karmic relation is relation with work. You seem to be saying somehow that we have a need for work, quite apart from our need to eat and have a roof over our heads. When if we could be guaranteed food and shelter, we would still have a need to work, in the sense of relating with our bodies to look-- some situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Yes, definitely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: But then we wouldn't call it work, we'd call it play.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You call what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Then we would call it play.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Doesn't matter what you call it. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=7301.0,7355.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 54]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Rinpoche? I didn't quite-- a few minutes ago you were talking about this thing according to the teachings that I don't remember exactly what you said, and according to common sense, the greatest debt was to one's parents. And then you said, if you were to-- if they were to make a bill for it or start counting it up that you could never-- that it'd be an enormous thing. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] And then I thought for sure you were going to go on, somebody asked you another question. And what were you saying-- going to say? [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think I was just going to say that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: What's the thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Well how is it-- excuse me. But how could you-- how could one relate to this then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well precisely. What would your parents like you to be done?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Don't you pay it back to your own children? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Unfortunately yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Doesn't work that way somehow,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=7355.0,7426.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 55]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: What did you just say about how it could be paid?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, how it could be paid.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Yeah, how?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you think?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: By practicing?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Well I don't know because I can't-- it doesn't seem possible for me to answer that-- to look at that question clearly. Because if I could give some kind of an answer, that I could make up some kind of an answer. But as it is, it seems to be a kind of a neurotic worm in my belly, or slightly higher, and I really don't know how to think about it at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well what would they be-- they like to be paid back? What situations?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: It's indefinable. I mean it-- no-- they would like to be paid back, but with no definable situation exactly. I mean, well, let's see they'd like to--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Isn't--\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: It's-- I think it's also an un-payable debt from their point of view also.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do they know that really?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: No, I don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=7426.0,7512.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 56]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well let's look another way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Suppose you have a child, how would you expect it from them? Or from *it*? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Well I would expect it to have in it-- you-- I would wish that it had in it some profound acknowledgement of everything that-- [laughter] not of what I gave it, but of what I was, with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Then you'd [INAUDIBLE] the debt.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: I mean that's what I would wish.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Just acknowledge you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Of your profundity. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Yes! Precisely. [Laughs; laughter] Why not?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=7512.0,7579.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 57]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: I was going to ask you before, what is the relationship between parents and children in Tibet?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well... I suppose very obedient. And when parents get old they still remain in the house. And when children takes over the running of the business, parents become sort of an advisor. And they expect very good hospitality. [Laughter] Being fed and acknowledged occasional advises. They wouldn't have put them into old ages home or anything like that at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: And there is no feeling of resentment and hostility and guilt and all this stuff within generations?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You could. You could have, yeah. But still-- you see the whole thing is bounded by society, the practice of the society. Practice of society there is just to give as much as hospitality you can, to your parents, and look after them until they die. A lot of people find it's sort of extremely painful, sort of ghostly. Parents watching you behind you-- behind your shoulder all the time, which is extremely discomfiting, resentful, but still they take it. And if they have to remove parents from away from their home, socially it's regarded as disgrace, disgraceful thing to do. So they still try to be patient with them.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: And that's not a good relationship either.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There was a story of a blind father. He's very nosy always, and listens to everything, because he's blind. And he could catch every subtleties and he always try to mind son's business, no-- son's business, daughter-in-law's business. And daughter-in-law tried to kill him for several times. [Laughter; laughs] But he couldn't find-- she couldn't find any way, she couldn't find any way to kill him. She doesn't want to kill him by obvious ways, but she want to find some subtle way. And then she heard the story of a poisonous snake, and she thought \"well there's now opportunity.\" And she caught snake and she cooked it. She made broth out of it. And she gave it to the father. And supposedly, in a certain chemical reaction, that snake supposed to cure your blindness. [Laughter; laughs] And immediately when the grandfather had a snake broth, he begin to regain his sight. [Laughter; laughs] And that was the story. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So he wasn't nosy anymore?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He was more. [Laughter] He [INAUDIBLE] greater scope now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=7579.0,7812.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 58]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: It seems that it's difficult to equate the position of a child and parent here in America, and for example in Tibet or another such country, in that the society isn't changing at such breakneck speed as here. So that a child seems to grow up in the expectation of-- more in the image of his parents. I mean he has that expectation: because father's a blacksmith, he'd be blacksmith. There isn't that pull, you have to-- the fast change that's going on in our society. I think it's difficult to equate the two somehow.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, it's-- I suppose the only way to relate with parents is just sort of acknowledge them, and try to relate with them. It seems quite many situations a lot of young people have been able to do that quite successfully. And particularly when they realize their children are not just frivolous and reactionary to society and what they have done, but some gratitude of their upbringings, as well as that they try to teach their parents what they have collected, in their process of-- children's process of search. A lot of parents begin to appreciate very much.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd somehow that this relationship is absolutely beyond money relationship of paying back in terms of dollars. I don't know whether anybody--- that anybody attempted to do such thing or not. [Laughs; laughter] But impossible to pay it back; it's such huge sum of amount, of energy put on, and that energy cost a lot of money. And somehow that the only way to relate back is in terms of another energy relating with them as a persons. In many cases that when the relationship of parents break down-- breaks down, children begin to give up hope, or resent the whole thing. In fact resent that \"they have gave birth of such child as me. It's terrible thing to do, created me.\" Somehow that if they're able to relate with their parents, somehow or other, in terms of human situation, I think that's also connected with your money problem as well. And that's part of the-- one would call-- one could say something like twenty-five percent of money karma is bound up by that, relationship to your parents, could be said fifty percent.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Is it possible--\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: I-- In what way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well because their way of bringing you, and their way of relating with the situation, and your neurosism to money situation, is partly based on your neurosism to your parents situation. Because of that money situation becomes much harder and more difficult to deal with, always, constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=7812.0,8052.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 59]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Is it possible for parents and children, when the children have already grown up, at a certain point to forget that they are parents and children and just have a communication as-- between human being?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's a problem of parents'. If they don't regard their children as a guest, at the moment when they are born, then they will begin to regard as property. So you lose tremendous, very valuable opportunities of relating with a person. So when the person grows up, that your property's enlarging, rather than our guest is doing well. [Laughter; laughs] And somehow from that level if you're regarded as guest -- but friendly guest of course, you know, human guest, not a pet -- and then they begin to get certain idea of \"not my son, my daughter, but a friend,\" who also have their own independent intelligence as well. So whole thing becomes much more direct situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nFundamentally the concept of a father and mother and children blocks a lot of open areas, tremendously, if you don't regard them as friends. Same thing with husband and wife, as well. That each person is in an obligatory situation, rather than relating each other as friends. Lot of people find they got along extremely well before they got married, and after they got married relationship begin to deteriorate. But that's next topic of sex. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=8052.0,8218.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 60]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Rinpoche, is spoiling a child an extension of the property and out of your relationship, or just a misunderstanding ignorance about...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean you begin to ignore their independent quality. Whatever they do have some bearings on you, as extension of yourself, always. And not appreciating them as individual person growing up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=8218.0,8258.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 61]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Isn't quite a lot of what parents do with children, [INAUDIBLE] really for themselves? Like you said it was property. Do it for their own happiness. So therefore they're doing it for themselves; they've already been paid for it. And you-- how can you pay them back? I can see for some things, but there's a selfless part of it, that you feel an obligation to. But parents seem to say \"all I've done for you, you know, what are you going to give back to me?\" And the thought comes to my mind that, \"Well, what do you mean you've done it for me? You've done it for yourself, for your own happiness, your own pain?\" And it seems that would be hard to pay back something is-- so you don't leave a debt sheet. Whereas it's a selfless thing to do. And how do you distinguish between [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's exactly the same as the thing of the generosity we be talking about. Is that you find irritating and painful to see somebody's dirty. And with that thought you rush out and invite that person, give him bath, good clothes, make him tidy. Then you say, \"Isn't he cute? [laughter] Nice person, after had-- he had his bath.\" It's part of your entertainment. It's part of your pride. Exactly the same as owning an object. Whereas things could be related directly, as-- because that person need a bath, new clothes, you do it. It doesn't matter what the outcome is. You just do it, without any demand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=8258.0,8399.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 62]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Rinpoche, when parents bring up their children that way, like property, then often what happens at a certain point the children get extremely angry. And they don't want to have much to do with their parents, might even want to hurt them a little bit. And then-- and at the same time that they think-- they feel some guilt.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: And so you know deep down they're feeling angry, but at the same time they're trying to behave, so in some way they won't feel so guilty.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Do you have any comment on that kind of situation, I think it's very [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean you can't correct that situation, if it's developed in halfway.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Except that either parents or children are intelligent enough approach from different angle. Quite possibility is an another element could be-- have to be introduced in it who has been closely related with your parents or children, could present their version of how they relate to them, or something of that nature. But nothing really could be done. You see once-- it's like shooting arrow; it's on it's way already and you can't change the course. It's done, already.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: So at that point, I mean, the children just have to relate to their own anger in that situation, by themselves. There's really no further work to be done with the parents unless there is some changing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well unless children is really willing to work, willing to give up, willing to say, up to certain extent that \"I was wrong,\" as go as far as that. And really come and relate them as a grown up person. There's no other way; doesn't seem to be other way at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nHow many more sessions do we have?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Three.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Depends on whether you're going to give two one day or not.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Two more days.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: There's two more days.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=8399.0,8567.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 63]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: I like to think I have considered my son as a guest, but I didn't consider myself as a mother, and there is a residue of that there. Of something was missing from me, that was very necessary for him when he was little. And it's-- the relationship is sometimes very close, as though you're friends, but there is an underlying feeling of some hostility on his part and some pervasive guilt on my part. And it is a disturbance in the relationship. And I wondered if you could-- you would say the same thing, that once the arrow is on its way you can't do anything about it; is this an unalterable situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, only way to work with a situation is that if you-- one is able to approach outside of already expected situations. In other word that your son would have certain fixed idea of you, in that line that he would approach you. And so do you, sort of-- probably. And if one can approach from that regular, usual style, beyond that usual style, outside of that style, as though that you met somebody else. Or he met somebody else, and they made friends, they become friends. And one can approach from that angle. Otherwise if-- as much as you have a word of wisdom to say to him, he's still going to approach on the same-- have-- your words going to run into his pigeon-holes of expectation of you, and it's not going to get him anywhere at all. But you could approach different angle, different directions. Which had to be different style, and different situation in a sense, and different way of approaching it. Which is possible.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Maybe through common bond. You know he got me into this to begin with. He got me into Zen Buddhism and I said to him last summer, \"How did you get me on this crazy trip?\" [Laughs; laughter] And we must have been related somewhere, you know, on entirely different basis, and we just both started to laugh. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] It's so funny. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's nice.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: I thought it was very nice.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=8567.0,8726.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93282/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 64]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: How does discipline, with respect to children come in-- fit into the picture of treating them as a guest? Because it seems like some-- at least at some stages they're a different kind of guest, like if they're yelling and screaming and knocking over lamps and lighting the house on fire. [laughs], How does that fit in?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think this could fit very well, could fit very well. I don't see any problems. I mean you tell them exactly what's wrong with there. No-- there's no further implication of anything behind it. But things are not done that moment. \"It's dangerous thing to do or it's not-- it's chaotic thing to do,\" that's it. No further antagonism.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Then suppose they don't listen to you at all?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Like lighting your house on fire.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that means that they don't listen because of something fundamentally has being set up in their mind. I'm sure they will listen to it. 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[Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=113.87,116.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93283/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Whether there's--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=116.92,120.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93283/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[laughs]\nwhether it's an entity\nor just a piece of 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Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=181.8,183.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93283/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean\nparticularly from Buddhist\npoint of view,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=186.26,190.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93283/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of karma\nis just mechanical,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=190.67,201.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93283/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and reacts to natural\nchemistry situations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=201.66,208.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93283/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: What did you mean\nby \"money 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Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=6467.78,6469.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93283/annotation/1334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER15: And what's wrong\nabout that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=6469.25,6472.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93283/annotation/1335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nothing.\n[laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=6472.26,6477.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93283/annotation/1336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER15: So why should we try\nand get rid of\n[INAUDIBLE] of ego?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263#t=6477.04,6481.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169615/file/308263/transcript/93283/annotation/1337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we are not\ntrying to get rid 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