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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled Tibetan Buddhism and American Karma, given in Boulder, Colorado. This is Talk One, given on November 17th, 1971. This is a CTI custom remaster made August 2021.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on Tibetan Buddhism and American Karma, held in Boulder, Colorado on November 1971. This will be talk number one, Introductory Lecture, November 17th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=30.0,49.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --of American karma towards spiritual search in general as well as to Buddhism. I think this whole basic idea is it doesn't seem to be particularly extraordinary, and probably I've been saying the same thing that everybody has already experienced. That... process of this karmic situation of American karma with Buddhism could be regarded as simply from this point right now, that we have situations of people trying to understand, trying to learn something. And in fact, they are here already. And there is me, isolated person who came from all the way from Tibet, also happens to be here relating with that situation. Breathing the same air that America-- American people are breathing, sharing the same food Americans are eating, drinking the same liquor that Americans are drinking. [Laughter] Smoking as well. [Laughter] Marlboro. [Laughter] Meeting of Tibet and the U.S.A. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=49.0,194.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, at the same time, there are some situations of this process is for Americans is extremely painful to talk about, almost an insult. I remember when I was talking to Allen Ginsberg, for instance, who is a great poet and great American, historical, revolutionary person, that he felt that there is tremendous possibilities of introducing Tibetan ritual and ceremony into Americanization. But the style that he might introduce such situation, as well as there is a book appeared on The Tibetan Book of the Dead and the psychedelic experiences, combination of work of Ram Dass, Richard Alpert, and Timothy Leary, and so on. That there is some quality of exotic and colorful aspect of Tibetan Buddhism is extremely beautiful material, exotic and colorful, bright material, fabric, that we could cut around, and we could paste on our old, used jeans that we wear. [Laughter] There is some tendency of Buddhism that developed in this country is a purely-- particularly, Tantric Buddhism of Tibet is used as kind of pop art, in some sense, to glorify the freaks and their expressions of freakiness, which is, of course, enforced by psychedelic experience and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=194.0,348.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In this particular seminar, I'm not trying to be particularly conservative and condemn anything happen [laughing] either at all. In fact, you could say the quite the opposite. But we have that particular problem of somebody catches the highlight particular patchwork, and cut them out with your scissors and paste them onto rugged quality. At the same time, only meeting point is the contrast. That old and ragged jean that you're wearing is basic America. That what you’re going to patch on a brocade and colorful of Tibetan fabrics is patchwork. The problem is how long are we going to wear that particular jean which has patchwork, how long is it going to last? And that seems to be problem. If there is no interpretation problem, if there is no process of integrating with the situations at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=348.0,430.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it seems that this is one of the basic things that we are going to discuss. And I just come back from Zen Center in San Francisco, having seen Suzuki Roshi, and there is also this particular problem. That Japanese or neo-Japanese, neo-Zen, approach that could be related with American mentality is extremely problematic and burden for a lot of students of Zen Buddhism and a lot of teachers of Zen masters. Integration is the problem. It seems that work what we are doing as far as situation there is concerned is some hope of integrating, but it is uncertain. That fixed tradition is there, but on the other hand, there is looseness, extreme looseness, outrageous quality, that we presented. I suppose, in this case, you could say \"we,\" as \"royal we.\" That we presented here. There is some kind of hope in between the two but uncertain, not quite certain what we are going to do about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=430.0,555.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That there is a basic problem that American mentality is originally based on moralistic approach, indivisible, national, unified process of the United States of America. We believe in one God; we practice accordingly. To make sure that even that remark has been printed on the dollar notes. That we believe each time when you handle dollar notes you supposed to develop that awareness that you are handling, the believing in God each time constantly. That's the way that United Nation is united together. And there is also the other principle, that reaction against that process of uniting with dollar notes of faith, believe in the God, which seem to have led to the other extreme, continual, the very powerful other extreme. That we want to blow up banks with our handmade bombs-- homemade bombs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=555.0,653.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The mechanical or factory-made bombs are too institutionalized, therefore we rather prepare a bomb in our home [laughter] and make it ourselves, which also gives tremendous satisfaction. And personally, would like to take it to the banks [laughter] or the public places. And that particular sound of a bang is beautiful, satisfaction, extremely satisfying. We have done it; we have achieved it. And that notion of homemade bomb continuous with American psychology all the time. Not necessarily American psychology alone, but you could say that worldwide notion of homemade bomb is continuously happening. That we have something basically-- want to achieve something, therefore, we want to execute that. If somebody comes against us, we would like destroy it. Or if somebody trying to seduce us, we would like to get into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=653.0,742.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The basic psychology of spiritual development that happened in American society is therefore not only American society alone, but it's a replica or blueprint for rest of the world. No doubt it will happen in Japan, no doubt it will happen in India. It depends on how much the Japanese society or the Indian society will have able to develop their materialistic standard of living. There is that much reaction against it. That tremendous resentment that my mother gave birth to me, tremendous resentment for the very fact that my mother has been overcrowding to me, trying to bring me out, bring me up, and feeding me, educating me, and sending me into school is insult as we know. A lot of people look at that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=742.0,810.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That kind of process could go on and on and on all the time, universal situation, constantly, which is not surprising at all. According to Buddha's idea, his theory, he already predicted such thing could happen. And it did happen in his own life situation as well. So it's a dream coming true, mythology coming too-- coming true. The dream of the Buddhism or dream of Buddha, predictions of Buddha, be coming true. In this case, that lot of Americans have reacted that established situation is not the only answer, but, on the other hand, reactionary situation not the answer either. So we have a conflict going between all those process continuously. And we are continuously churning out millions of homemade bombs constantly. Trying to blow up them up into any particular possible situation all the time constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=810.0,887.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I suppose that what-- in this particular seminar, what we are talking about is extremely valuable. And I would like to get into this personally, into details of how our particular scene had developed in Colorado, and Vermont for that matter and other towns that people have experienced, expressed interest into the scene, as what we are presenting. And also people had also experienced-- expressed the interest into other scenes as well. And I would like to take this step by step, so we could say this is-- this particular seminar is going to be extremely valuable. It's another kind of guided tour of American spiritualism, and let's do it very slowly, very properly, to begin to discuss with the karmic situations of America. To begin with discussing karma as it is, and we discuss with the karmic situations of America, and that America is going through this process as whole. And of course no doubt that finally, at the end of our seminar, that you find yourself still sitting here and listening and doing same thing. So we are back to square one, and we have to start all over again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=887.0,972.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Probably I should stop there and shouldn't get too carried away. I'm sorry this-- tonight's discussion has been purely appetizer, but it seem to be that's the only way we could start on, \"turn on,\" as they say, to see the-- your situation, in America. In your situation studying of Buddhism and being here altogether, seem to be very important to work on that-- look on that situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd we could have a short discussion if anyone would like to ask questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=972.0,1024.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Would you say that the Westerners are the actual spiritual-- could you call it a spiritual consciousness that is happening in America? Are people truly experiencing spiritual-- deep spiritual experiences? Are people having glimpses of mental-- where is it at, is it really spiritual what is going on here? Is this [laughing] spirituality going on in the West?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that what's been happening in this country, politically or economically or socially in this country, what's happening has tremendous bearing with spirituality. If people are suffering or they get extremely carried away with their theology or their philosophy has spiritual background altogether. As well as if people are involved economy, as such, there is a spiritual background beside that. It seems what's happening in this country is that remodifying process of trying to simplify a human society into a basic human, ape society. Collections of apes living together. Recreation of stone age. They fought for their meat, they fought for their animals in order to get their prey. They fought for their space to sleep, which is a basic spiritual problem. And it seems that we are coming back to the situation very much so, I would say. Whole problem is we suffer is not problem but a spiritual inspiration. But, at the same time, it is spiritual problem altogether. So there's tremendous awakening process that involved with this world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=1024.0,1182.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What are some of the indicators that you look to to point out the American karma to see what direction it's going? Like the drug scene or the comic book scene or the magazine scene or advertising scene. You look into those aspects?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, that's saying the same thing. That constantly American karma has extreme, serious, solemn economic striving process of publishing best magazine, presenting most seductive topless restaurant or whatever is may be. All those processes are extreme seriousness, is leading to extreme irony. It's introduction to sense of humor. That without that sense of humor you can't achieve to spirituality and next step. And, as long as people worked even the spiritual process, spiritual search is regarded as sage matter. \"I'm sage and sitting here and meditating, holding my breath,\" [laughter] or whatever is may be. Or the process of holding your breath, if you happens to fart, that's the introduction towards a sense of humor. [Laughter] It's bringing back to the human situation, you see what I mean? Bringing back to the human situation that we have to yawn, we have to fart, we have to breathe actually, we have to wink our ears-- eyes. [Laughter] It seem to be American karmic situation can be only realized as American karmic situation towards spiritual path, is that seriousness in itself turns into sense of humor, and humorous situation, ironical situation, hilarious situation. And then there is some gap somewhere, there something clicks, and next situation happens spontaneously. Which seem to be just about to happen actually. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nIt seems that what's happening at this moment is that we want to hold-- that we know that we are going to fart, [laughter] and we want to hold. And we know that we going to laugh if we fart. You don't want to laugh; we don't want to fart either. [Laughter; laughs] It's trying to hold tight somewhere. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=1182.0,1420.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, I don't know if this is getting off the subject at all, but there's a lot of talk of flying saucers and-- [laughter] I don't know. There's-- they even made a movie recently about it and stuff. And I was wondering if you can clue us in on what's happening? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I could what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is there anything you know about it? [Laughter] It's something that I used to feel is so absurd, you know. It's like, you know, I don't know, it just doesn't seem too real. And so many people are putting so much energy into it, and I don't know if it's just energy, I don’t know, that they're putting into it, or if it's real. And if it's real, it's a very far out trip, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's why I was late tonight. [Laughter; laughs] In fact, it has very intelligent title called, \"United.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is that [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems that they speak our language, human language. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I've heard these flying saucers have come here to help us, not charge us money. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They did.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: That's [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Food and liquor and everything. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=1420.0,1528.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: How do you like American liquor?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't know.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: It's water.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is that so? [Laughter; laughs] Not bad at all. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=1528.0,1562.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Is the fart inevitable, or is it going to take Tibetan Buddhism to... [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To fart, do you mean? I think it's inevitable. There's no doubt about that. You see, if what we are looking to this particular situation, American karma, that we going to discuss is not particularly Tibetan Buddhism alone. That it's on the whole situation of intelligence-- standard of intelligence of American society in terms of the crudeness or the lousy and garish quality of American civilization that supposedly represented all over the world. Particularly in Europe that people talk about America, if anybody mentions France and England, and the word \"America\" is regarded as derogatory. Automatically regarded as something garish, something connected with chewing gum [laughter] or something connected with the bright light, neon signs. And somehow that development of American Buddhism, as such, is going to be one of the part of the situations. That I wouldn't regard that Buddhism is going to be worldwide, nationwide factor in America necessarily at all, but the inspiration of Buddhism in the abstract sense, that a lot of Americans may not call themselves Buddhists as such, but the inspiration around is basic sanity, basic spirituality, which has no labels of any kind. I'm sure it is possible to develop that way. And it is, it seem to be going to happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=1562.0,1683.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Do you think something will happen to this country on account of their karma, on account of the garishness that you speak of, and the badness and all of the things? Do you think that this karma will maybe make America a second-rate power? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Make what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Make America a second-rate power.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: [INAUDIBLE] into the water. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, by the time Americans, or America for that matter, or the United States for that matter, develops into a greater power spirituality, then cease to become purely production of U.S.A. It becomes greater power from the materialistic mind altogether. And the materialism turn into spirituality in the greater sense. And I'm sorry that probably U.S.A. may not have particular credentials, or they may not get a... what you call...\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Medal.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Medal. Yeah, probably they won't get a medal, necessarily at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=1683.0,1774.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Do you think this has any bearing on the separation of church and state in this country?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Church and...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: State.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Church and state.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Church and state. Do you think it has any bearing on the question of church and state, the separation of church and state?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that is the fundamental problem, that religion is church, and spirituality is the state. [Laughter; chatter] Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Should be united then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Would I what?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Should be united.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If it could, yeah, sure. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I don't understand that, how the spirituality is the state.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Spirituality is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Is government.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what I mean, spirituality is the state and religion is church.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But, I mean, I don't understand that. I guess I have a different understanding of spirituality as-- and government, it just sort of sounds absurd.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, that absurdity in itself is dharma. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Okay, that's what I [INAUDIBLE]. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is truth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=1774.0,1870.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Is the material a manifestation of the spirit? The material, is it a manifestation of the spirit?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Is the material a manifestation of the spirit?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Material is manifestation of...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Spirit.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Of what?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Spirit.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, material, manifestation of spirit. Material [laughter] is manifestation of spirit. [Laughter] Well, it seems that you can't have material without consciousness of the spirit, or you can't have consciousness without material. It's interdependent it seems. But you cannot say that-- at the same time, you can not say that reflection is the same as the reflector. But, at the same time, you have to say reflection *is* the creation of reflector. It sounds like saying the same thing. It's a part of each other, interdependent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=1870.0,1974.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: But you're saying that life is the only reality.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Life?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Is the only reality then.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Life--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I mean, isn't-- death is supposed to be another blissful place, I hear. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, both life and death have realities aren't they?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: But then, is there matter in death, is there a material essence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, the death itself, the continuity of impermanence.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Isn't that just spirit?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which also can contains with life as well. You can't live without impermanence, gone through the process of impermanence. You're constantly living, because you are dying constantly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: But after there is no body, where is consciousness? Is there a soul?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, consciousness doesn't depend on body alone, but it also depends on the projections as well. So that projection is could be called as body as well. That's why we have a body.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: But consciousness exists without form.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Without form?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Form.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Consciousness exists without form, because is exist without form, which means it depend on the form as well at the same time. [laughing] It's a--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I understand.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's [INAUDIBLE] . [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: [INAUDIBLE]. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: My pleasure. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=1974.0,2083.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: You and other authors are always saying... [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: You and other authors. Aren't you an author?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Am I an author?\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: You are an author aren't you, a writer you know?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: A writer?\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: You're part writer aren't you? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: You and the other people that write [laughter] are always saying, \"Know what you are.\" Well, I don't know what I am. And then you say, \"When you know what you are, you be what you are.\" But if you don't know what you are, then how can you be what you are? And so, I'd like to find out what this knowing what you are is like. Think about what I am, I think, \"Well I'm just nothing [INAUDIBLE]--\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That sounds very profound. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Do I get satisfaction out of this, being what I am? [INAUDIBLE] contentment? I don't know, it's my problem. Could you straighten that out? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I didn't hear what--\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: There are several people that say, \"Know who you are--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They know who they are.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: --be who you are.\" But if you don't know what you are, you can't be what you are. I don’t know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that if you don't know what you are, therefore you can establish your situation of who you are -- because you don't know what you are. On the basis of uncertainty, therefore, you can establish uncertainty on the uncertainty.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Well, if you have uncertainty about it, that's-- there is no comfort in uncertainty.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's like, if you have to create a number, figures, you have to start with number one, which is a certainty. In order to have number one, figure one, you have to have number zero, which is uncertainty, to establish the possibilities of number one could exist, because that uncertainty.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Well, I'm certain that I don't know very much, [laughter] and I'm certain that I'm not too smart and so--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Doesn’t have to be smart.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Doesn’t have to be smart.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Don’t have to be smart?.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Well, contentment, contentment. You won't get contentment, and this doesn't bring contentment.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: You want contentment. Well, you don't get contentment out of thinking, \"I'm nothing\" very much, do you?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You have to think about that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: He doesn't get much contentment out of thinking he is nothing. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's relative question.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Is it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely, yeah. [Laughter] That sounds very busy and very exciting to work on.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Very exciting [INAUDIBLE]. [laughter] Well, I wish somebody would say-- You know I read D. T. Suzuki's book--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: --and he says \"You should know who you are.\" And then he didn't say anything more. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that sounds quite feasible in a way. You should know who you are, but not say any more. Which means that you must have relate with completely and properly, to begin with, who you are not. If you know who you aren't, then possibly there's great possibilities of finding who you are.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: I sure know who I'm not, or who I aren't. [Laughter] That's for sure. But it's not very [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're getting younger, Cyrus. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=2083.0,2380.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Why is it necessary to know who one is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Why is it necessary to know who one is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who I am?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Why shouldn't that-- one just be?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there again it's same thing. If you want to be, who is not being?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: But it's not a matter of wanting, you just are.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No but what is, yeah, sure. And, if you look on what is, that, automatically, you have a sense of what is not, because you have to function on somewhere. Some space you need something to grow, your what is. You had to-- you have to know what is not, and, therefore, without what is not you had to grow something out of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nHow did we get to this subject? [laughter] We were talking about American Buddhism,--\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Flying saucer.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --American karma. [Laughs] Yeah, that must be it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=2380.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95055/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe we should stop at this point, since we have a lot more things to discuss next seminar's several sessions. It seems that, basically, what we are trying to present at this particular seminar is questioning our existence taking part in this situation of seminar or committing ourselves into the community or spiritual commitment as a whole. Why there should be spirituality. And that seem to be one of the basic point that we are discussing it. And I think our discussions could be extremely thought provoking and very beautiful. That trying to work more on the discussions, rather than me just purely giving statements, next few sessions. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=2460.0,2527.97388"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95056","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711117VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95056/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=2.11,6.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95056/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"public seminar entitled Tibetan\nBuddhism and American Karma,\ngiven in Boulder, Colorado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=6.09,15.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95056/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is Talk One,\ngiven on November 17th, 1971.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=15.26,23.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95056/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a CTI custom\nremaster made August 2021.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=23.16,30.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95056/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: This will be\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=30.85,33.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95056/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar on Tibetan Buddhism\nand American Karma,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=33.92,37.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95056/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"held in Boulder,\nColorado on November 1971.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=37.01,40.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95056/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This will be talk number one,\nIntroductory Lecture,\nNovember 17th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=40.94,47.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95056/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --of American\nkarma towards spiritual search\nin 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.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=2062.17,2071.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95056/annotation/381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11: [INAUDIBLE]. 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What?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=2250.91,2252.15"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95056/annotation/423","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Doesn’t have\nto be smart.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=2252.15,2253.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95056/annotation/424","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CYRUS CRANE: Don’t have to\nbe smart?.\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: 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[Laughter]\nThat sounds very busy\nand very exciting to work on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=2284.55,2291.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95056/annotation/435","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CYRUS CRANE: Very exciting\n[INAUDIBLE].\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=2291.43,2298.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95056/annotation/436","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I wish\nsomebody would say--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525#t=2298.76,2301.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174108/file/313525/transcript/95056/annotation/437","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know I read D.\nT. 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