{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/pr7mp4wn1h/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1974-07-16: Tantra: Journey Without Goal: Talk 2: Vajra Nature"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1974-07-16"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Video"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Boulder, Colorado, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Course"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/215/show\"\u003e1974 Naropa Institute: Tantra: Journey Without Goal\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 2: Vajra Nature"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Buddhist Vajrayana and Tantra"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["A talk about the theme of nonexistence as foundation of the tantric path.  \"Tantra\" as the potentialities and energies that exist within us. Realization of egolessness, nonexistence through meditation brings experience of indestructibility, immovability. \"Indestructible\" in tantric language is \"vajra\" in Sanskrit, \"dorje\" in Tibetan.  Describes experience of \"vajra nature\" as basic sanity and unconditional clarity experienced through sitting practice. Tantric discipline as not cooperating with anything, which makes it \"tough\", \"vajra-headed\", immovable. Total nonparticipation in games of samsaric world. Traditional definition of \"vajra\" is \"diamond-like,\" \"adamantine\", unable to be destroyed by anything, and precious.  Emphasizes need for vajrayana teachings to be presented extremely carefully and subtly, as relating with state of mind and being on vajrayana level is equally \"dangerous and highly productive.\""]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Journey without Goal","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 04","VIDEODVD: Journey Without Goal"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: JOURNEY WITHOUT GOAL: Chapter 2: Vajra Nature\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/journey-without-goal-860.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 04 (in contained book JOURNEY WITHOUT GOAL)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-385.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nVIDEODVD: JOURNEY WITHOUT GOAL\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.kalapamedia.org/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=DVK345\"\u003eKalapa Media\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Aug 01 2020 to Feb 24 2021 Transcribing: Daniel Nguyen Checking: Travis May, Ella Milligan Final Proof: Nancy Roberts, Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1974"]}}],"summary":{"en":["A talk about the theme of nonexistence as foundation of the tantric path.  \"Tantra\" as the potentialities and energies that exist within us. Realization of egolessness, nonexistence through meditation brings experience of indestructibility, immovability. \"Indestructible\" in tantric language is \"vajra\" in Sanskrit, \"dorje\" in Tibetan.  Describes experience of \"vajra nature\" as basic sanity and unconditional clarity experienced through sitting practice. Tantric discipline as not cooperating with anything, which makes it \"tough\", \"vajra-headed\", immovable. Total nonparticipation in games of samsaric world. Traditional definition of \"vajra\" is \"diamond-like,\" \"adamantine\", unable to be destroyed by anything, and precious.  Emphasizes need for vajrayana teachings to be presented extremely carefully and subtly, as relating with state of mind and being on vajrayana level is equally \"dangerous and highly productive.\""]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/077/small/thumbnail_164077_1664393286.jpg?1664393962","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19740716VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":3346.06933,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/077/small/thumbnail_164077_1664393286.jpg?1664393962","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/164/077/original/19740716VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4?1659329648","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":3346.06933,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740716VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"﻿[19740716VCTR1 - Naropa Course - Boulder - Tantra Journey Without Goal - Talk 2 - Vajra Nature]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=0.0,34.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Since we discussed yesterday the meaning of nonexistence, I would like to go further, and look into much more detailed situation, of the experience of *that*, nonexistence. Seem to be necessary for us to understand that what we discussed all along is not particularly technical, but it is experiential. Experience, from this point brings, sense of delightful humor; at the same time, sense of complete openness and freedom. In the tantric tradition that we are discussing, this particular course, is particularly geared for potentialities and energies that exist within us, according to the teachings of the Buddha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=34.0,175.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The notion of nonexistence brings sense of indestructibility: completely indestructible, unchallengeable, unmovable-- immovable. And complete solidness. And such experience can only occur that when we begin to realize that nonexistence is possible. Nonexistence from the point of view of without reference point, from the point of view without philosophical definition, or even notion of egolessness becomes problematic because somehow egolessness becomes stage towards nonexistence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=175.0,251.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"According to Buddha, definition of tantra as being the greater liberation, greater discipline, and greater vision, and so forth. So what we are discussing tonight is that of the greater discipline and greater vision. Indestructibility in tantric language, what's known as \"vajra,\" which is Sanskrit word, \"dorje\" in Tibetan, which means \"indestructibility,\" \"unmovable.\" The notion of indestructibility only comes out of the state of nothingness, egolessness, nonexistence-ness. Without having such grasp that there is no point in discussing the indestructibility.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=251.0,350.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generally when we discuss about indestructibility, we are talking about somebody who is highly well-established, in the work of warfare, work of establishment, artwork. That person has done tons and tons of philosophy behind him. And tons and tons of proofs, and tons and tons of tactics, stored, so therefore, that person is immovable or indestructible because person has already lot of techniques and ideas and trainings of all kinds; therefore that person is immovable, indestructible. But in this case it's the opposite. It's not so much of a collection of informations and tricks and ideas, as such, but basic attitude, basic understanding and certain sense of trust in the nonexistence-ness of our being, which brings sense of indestructibility. Not so much there's enough gadget involved, therefore you are secured, which is still source of destructibility, rather than indestructibility.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=350.0,434.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At this point, we could say quite clearly the tantric notion of indestructibility is for one thing there's no ground, no basic premises, no particular philosophy, except one's own experience, which is extremely powerful, extremely dynamic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=434.0,475.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's question of *how* to be -- rather than *what* to be. It's a question of how much we should dependent on, or rely upon, reference point, conceptual ideas, and feedbacks, which gives us guidelines as to how to handle as good and bad schoolboys and schoolgirls. That whole approach seem to be in the basis on a very solid dynamic, and unyielding. That one cannot trick oneself in becoming-- or understanding or realizing, state of immovability, indestructibility at all. There is a certain sense of uncooperative approach, as far as tantric approach is concerned. The tantric discipline does not cooperate with anything *at all*. Therefore, it is regarded as indestructible, immovable. That nonparticipation with the games that goes on in samsaric world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=475.0,639.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's something more than purely boycotting. When you boycott something you do it in the name of a protestings, against something, that you have a disagreement of a certain system, certain ideas, and make yourself nuisance to the organization. But in this case it's something more than purely boycotting samsaric setup. But it is something that you're actually involved personally, fully. That you begin to realize that all kinds of materialistic trips might be presented to us, spiritual materialism, and psychological materialism, and a materialistic materialism. All kinds of things might be presented to us as alternatives, but not yielding any of those *at all*. And being straightforward and hard-headed, which is an interesting word that we have-- we discovered in the English language: when we say somebody's \"hard-headed,\" we would say somebody who is not-- doesn't buy anything. And that's precisely what's vajra nature, is \"hard-headed,\" \"vajra-headed.\" It's a toughness and non-acceptance of any kind of seductions that might be presented to you, But still you are not buying them, not getting into them. But you become vajra-headed, hard-headed. That seem to the basic point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=639.0,756.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The other notion is when we talk about \"hard truth.\" The truth is very hard, unyielding, un-complementing. And so you say, you get news of somebody's dead. It's \"hard truth\". That you can't go back and say that wasn't true, you can't argue about it. You can't use your attorney. You can't spend your money trying to bring the person back to life, because hard truth that person is actually dead. You can't do anything with that, and you can't bring that person back to life, it's hard truth. And the same way, that the vajra nature is hard truth, that you can't challenge, that you can't manipulate in any way at all, none whatsoever. It is direct and precise as things goes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=756.0,829.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And vajra nature from that point of view, term \"vajra\" is been used in the different traditional analogies, as equal to being \"adamantine,\" \"diamond,\" and so forth. It is that particular quality of toughness, at the same time it's highly preciousness of it. Unless we get this particular experience, understanding of the basic qualities of tantric-*ness* or *tantrika*-ness, whatever we are talking about. That we have to understand this unyielding, almost bull-headed, hard-headed, vajra headed-ness, of not yielding on any kind of seductions, little tricks, little plays on the words, little plays on ideas and the concept, little seductions, that we can't understand vajrayana at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=829.0,905.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that seem to be the basic point. That when we talk about a tantric tradition, we are not talking about purely playing with sex, or aggression, or colors, phenomenal world. We are not talking about those areas, yet. We are unable to understand such situations this particular point, that we have to get to some basic understanding of *how* tantrika works, how tantra works, how vajra works. We have to be very conservative. We have to be very, very, very concerned with the fundamentals of the whole thing, rather than whole thing's going to be okay and groovy, and \"Don't worry. If you worry that's your problem, but if you don't worry, everything is going to be okay. Let's dance together. Let's play the music together. Let's drink honey and milk.\" It doesn't work. Not at all. It didn't work. It doesn't work. It is been said so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=905.0,992.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, ladies and gentlemen, we have somewhat a problem there. It's not going to be very easy matter, but talking about tantra is expressions of wildness and freedom of all kinds, things that people projected ideas onto it, and lots of energy and so forth. But somehow, the cultivation of vajrayana teaching had to be based on a very subtle and very definite and very ordinary and very *real* basis, and otherwise, we are at lost. Not are we at lost I know but we are destroying ourselves. That's the problem. We are dealing with live wire, filled with electricity. You could use switches, all kinds of means, method, intermediary process. You could wear gloves, but you have also choice of you're using bare hand, touching on the live wire, in which case that we're in trouble.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=992.0,1070.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The institution of tantric Buddhism, or tantric, from that matter, not only Buddhist tantric alone, but Hindu tantra as well, that has been presented to our society in this country very generously, by a lot of competent great teachers. But at the same time, lot of people are in the problem-- a lot of people are in the trouble. That we can't take it. We simply can't take it, as we say. And we end up in the problem, we end up by destroying ourselves. We end up playing with our energy and finally *fused* whole thing, and then it becomes a spiritual atomic bomb. Which not only have effect on you but your neighbors also begin to feel the sense of radiation. And people die from that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=1070.0,1136.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The communist have a very interesting phrase, Maoist at least. And one of their phrase, slogans says, \"Mao Tse Tung's teaching is spiritual atomic bomb.\" That almost sounds like tantric teachings gone wrong. Which is true in many ways, that the highest form of communism is tantric gone wrong. Playing with the energy and playing with the slaughtering of so many people, taking advantage of people and everything like that is a-- is obviously atomic bomb, spiritual atomic bomb, obviously. There is some kind of spirit, and spirituality is involved. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=1136.0,1193.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, back to square one. We should be very careful and very open. When we talk about the egolessness and nonexistence we talked yesterday, which is a preparation that *unless* we begin to realize, or understand that there is no substance you are trying to bring up. You have a little seed of something or other, and you trying to nourish that and nourish that, bring it up in our fullest level. Finally, begin to create shoots of greenery, and finally begin to put flower buds and finally begin to grow and blossom as beautiful flower. And that is wishful thinking. And we can't do that. And we have to realize nonexistence-ness of the *seed*. You have to realize taking care of such plant is not just ordinary taking care of plants. Extra-ordinary process that is needed. That dealing with our state of being, state of mind is extraordinary thing in any way. But moreover, dealing with a more subtler version from tantric point of view is *extremely* dangerous, highly dangerous. *And* equally highly productive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=1193.0,1294.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The notion of indestructibility is, fundamentally speaking, basic sanity. This particular basic sanity that we are talking about it, is based on a sense of clarity, which you do-- which is derived from sitting practice of meditation. By following the three yana principle, we come to a conclusion that there is a sense of clarity, unconditional clarity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=1294.0,1397.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Such clarity [laughs] is ostentatious [laughs; laughter], immense brilliant, immense clear. [Laughs] It's very joyful, and it has potentialities of *everything*. And that kind of clarity we are talking about, in the real experience. And having had such experience with its *brilliant-ness*, this farseeing, ostentatious, colorfulness, opulence quality of clarity, *then* there's no problem. [Laughter] That *is* the vajra nature. It is indestructible at the same time because its opulence quality; of its richness; radiates constantly. An immense appreciation, unconditional appreciation takes place that level. So that particular topic of indestructibility is very important point. And that accompanies with-- there's such clarity is the basic premise of tantric understanding, tantric Buddhist teachings.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=1397.0,1506.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Again we should be clear; when we talk about \"clear light\", such as that described Evans-Wentz book on the Tibetan Book of the Dead, talks about clear light, so forth. Or in the mahayanist literatures of talking about luminosity and so forth. There's some differences between those concepts and ideas. But when we talk about clear light according to the Tibetan Book of the Dead, we are talking clear light purely from the point of view of phenomenological level. Phenomenologically, you feel-- you see whiteness, as you *die*. As your consciousness begin to sink because your physical death of your bodily habitual pattern is begin to leave your experience. You begin to get in another realm, so you begin to feel this white-washed, as if you're swimming in the milk. You're drowning in the milk. You'd be swimming and now you're drowning in the milk. You've begin to see that you are suffocated with whiteness, which is known as a clear light, that point. Which is a purely phenomenological experience. Not the *true* experience of clarity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=1506.0,1602.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then we have the other point of view of the mahayanist Buddhist talk about, the \"prabhasvara\", \"osel\", or that of the \"luminosity.\" That is another matter. That is seeing things very precisely, clearly, logically, skillfully, everything seen very directly, things as they are. But none of those complement to the tantric notion of this *vajra* clarity that we are talking about. It doesn't somehow match this. That things we are talking now, terms of vajrayanist approach of clarity, or the clearness is concerned, it has more humor, for one thing. It has more subtlety, another thing. It has more dignity. And, moreover, it has utterly, totally being outrage-- outrageousness. That things been seen as they are precisely, but at same time, that things also seeing *you* precisely. At the same time, there is some kind of meeting point takes place. Which is called \"vajra nature.\" And something that makes to us to realize, that we can't actually chicken-out, by saying \"that was a rehearsal.\" But also something makes us to realize that was *real*, really *real*, because no phenomenological experience is involved in that state of being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=1602.0,1746.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's *real* state of being, true state of being, which is full and complete. So that's what we're talking about vajra nature. And in the future reference, in our next ongoing courses, that we'll be talking about vajra nature, I would like you to understand what we're talking about. Vajra nature is indestructibility and the clarity of that kind of thing, you'd be talking about, which is superior to any of the other approaches of spirituality, even within a Buddhist approach.\r\n\r\n\r\nMaybe we should have discussion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=1746.0,1857.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: When you talk about the vajra clarity, you say you see things as they are, and things see you as they are. Does this have to do with that one is totally exposed and open and not afraid to be seen?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well said. Precisely. You got it..","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=1857.0,1889.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anybody else? [Laughter] Gentleman in the red shirt.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: At this point, being involved in a hinayana practice, would you say that it might be dangerous for us to just work with the notion of just being open to the energy that already exists? Should we consciously avoid being open to it, or is it workable at this point, to be open to that energy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's one of the problems that we're facing at this point actually, is that we are not practicing tantra at this point. We are not particularly adequate enough, but we are discussing the potentiality, possibility, in getting some kind of experiential, intellectual understanding of it. So as far as tradition of practice is concerned this point that, I would really highly recommend to start on the hinayana practice of meditation of shamatha and vipashyana experience, properly. And that seem to be the practice which would lead us into vajrayana, eventually. But at this point we had to be very conservative, very orthodox, that we can't launch into playing with the energy. Which has been the mistakes in the past by a lot of-- even competent teachers come to this country. They have their own experience evolved, their own enlightenment is achieved. But nevertheless, their skillful means in dealing with students had become completely inadequate. And they failed to be as true teachers or Americans, some point. And we have a problems of all kinds of things, and the people suffer afterwards. They might have-- at the beginning, they might have enormous exposure, clarity, and all kinds of fireworks takes place -- fantastic. But then certain while that people find themselves deceiving themselves, and begin to find all kinds of setbacks takes place.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo precisely from such examples as what we experienced so far, that we should exert ourselves to the particularly-- into the hinayana practice at this point, and relate with that. And vajrayana experience what are we talking here is, suggestions how you might be. Potentialities might exist. And you could also relate it with your everyday life situation at the same time. That there is a seed of vajrayana takes place in you, rather than as far as our sitting practice is concerned.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: One of the questions about meditation though, like for instance, working with the shamatha practice and occasionally feeling a relationship with that energy already existing, should we consciously avoid the experience, avoid the feeling? Push it away or just let it be? And how do you work with that during meditation practice?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, avoiding experience is also same time inviting experiences. But one simply just do it. One just does it, without a particular speculation. One just to do it. It is-- whole thing is flat as that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=1889.0,2164.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I was wondering if you could say something about the relationship between nonexistence and being.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's quite simple actually. Nonexistence is nonexistence. And being is being. [Laughter] When you're trying to be, you're trying to be something that's being related to you. \"I try to be myself,\" you could say, which automatically means, that \"you're trying to be yourself.\" \"I trying to be myself.\" Or you could say, \"I try to be a dog, cat, caterpillar, butterfly, yogi, Buddha, Krishna.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTo be-- or being, state of being is imitation, from that point of view. But to *exist*, is simply there, without trying to be anything at all, none whatsoever. That seem to be the differences. \"Exist\" is better, because you simply do exist, without any conditions. But when you're trying to \"being\", you have to try to be with something else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=2164.0,2297.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: How does this kind of \"vajra nature\" relate to \"vajra\" aspect of personality?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: How does it-- how does this use of \"vajra\" relate to the \"vajra\" aspect of personality? When it-- when vajra is an expression--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I didn't understand you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: --\"vajra\" aspect of personality, like in the Buddha families.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: When it's an expression of ego. How is that related to this use of \"vajra\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say it another way?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: \"Vajra\" is used to describe an expression of ego. When you talk about the Buddha family, vajra.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: And it's used, I assume, in a different way here.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that's a different perspective. When we talk about vajra in the basic tantric literature, like \"vajra pride,\" \"vajra passion,\" \"vajra aggression,\" whatever we talk about, we are talking about this particular indestructibility. Which does not particularly belongs to the five families of buddha-potential natures, particularly. We are talking about a *general* thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nThen you have vajra of limited vajra, purely of the intellect, the cutting-through process. And the ratna of the voluptuousness or whatever. And you have different qualities. But at this point, we are talking about vajra is total experience of tantrayana. Fundamentally \"vajra-alike\" means enlightenment-\"alike\" state of being. We're talking about a general thing here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=2297.0,2447.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Trying to find the question I wrote down. [Laughter] Here it is. Just a little while back you said that there were some teachers that come to this country -- I guess I got the implication they were tantric teachers -- but because of, or through unskillful means were not helping their students. To me, if-- from where I'm at right now, if a person is a tantric teacher it seems to me that they're enlightened. And if they're enlightened, how can they do something unskillfully? Does that imply that they fall into the state of egohood again? In other words, once you're enlightened, you can slip back out of that state.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's the possibility, that once you're enlightened, if you're enlightened in the process of working with people, or if you're enlightened process of helping yourself [laughs], there's that possibility. And another thing is that there is a-- when person's enlightened, there's not enough sharpening of one's *prajna* to relate with sentient beings, relate with the people. So consequently, you find yourself somewhat inadequate, you can't speak their language, which is known as \"arhats\", according to Buddhist tradition. The arhats takes a vow that he never teach. If he teaches, he only teaches by sign language, rather than verbal language. So I think there's possibilities that, depends on how your vow is taken, at the beginning. But those people who can't teach, but still partially enlightened are regarded as \"semi\"-enlightened, not good enough. They have already college degree, but they didn't have teacher's training. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=2447.0,2600.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Shiny-head gentleman.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Rinpoche, I'm puzzled as to why you have undertaken to teach vajrayana to an audience to whom you recommend the practice of hinayana. If we cannot-- if *I* cannot apply these teachings in my everyday life, it seems to me that from my point of view grasping at it is much like grasping at anything in a spiritual materialistic way.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think the whole point is that make sure that you don't shop too much further. That you heard the message of vajrayana, that you have some understanding of it, and you could stick to that particular approach. And you would not be suffered by somebody else's salesmanship of vajrayana. So you have at least some kind of information how to handle when those salesmanship of vajrayana, you can handle yourself properly. In other word that teaching somebody who could be millionaire and take the attitude of millionaire-ship, although you might be penniless at the same time. But then when you become millionaire, you know how to handle the other people. That's why it's called Naropa Institute or School, to train people how to be properly, as they are.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Can you assimilate, or do you think that one can assimilate knowledge without actual experience? If I'm hard-headed, I can hear and perhaps I will remember your words, but until an actual experience happens, they are just words.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's possible that you can experience portion of it, but it is also possible you may have pure theory of it at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I'm sorry, I didn't understand.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Pure theory of it at the same time. But it both works together at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=2600.0,2755.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Young lady over there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, as we become more open, you know, through meditation, like, it seems like we get positive feedback, at least around here...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We're what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: As we become more open, through meditation, it seems that we get positive feedback, at least around here. How dangerous is that feedback?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm puzzled by your question. You see, the point is that we're not trying to make something is very secure and safe as such. But whole thing had to be experiential. And the whole thing is, from that point of view, extremely loose. But at the same time the attitude is extremely orthodox. So only thing I could say is, help yourself. Good luck, Madam.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=2755.0,2859.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche, if one of the three marks of existence is impermanence, what is it that is indestructible?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Impermanence is indestructible. [Laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=2859.0,2915.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: When you earlier made reference to the Hindu teachers of tantra, were these--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I didn't hear your first part of your babble. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yes. The first part was in reference to the Hindu teachers of tantra.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Were these teachers teaching left-handed or right-handed tantra? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Were these what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Teachers.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Were they-- you, as I understood it, this was dangerous or misleading, and I assumed it probably would have something to do with how this energy is used, i.e., that what you were saying was perhaps leery was the sexual energy of tantra. And I was curious as to whether or not you felt that this was a result of, for example, left-handed tantric teaching, which would emphasize the ritualistic aspects of tantra.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well, I think the problem here is that there is a sense of frivolity. And teachings, either Buddhism or Hinduism, that arrived to this country America, United States of America, is concerned. That a lot of teachers felt they're immigrating themselves. They themselves don't have a proper passport maybe, not proper visa, that has something to do with it at the same time. They do it very quick, and they present their teachings in a very quick manner. And trying to promise lots of things, so that they could come back next time when they had better visa. Maybe immigration, green card. And that has become the problem. Actually, not problem isn't so much of a teaching style, but this teachers been threatened by the immigration status, and their legal standing on this-- being in this country, which is a problem at the same time. And in turn, they speak that way. They feel that they can't have proper relationship with anybody, if they're kicked out of the country. If they can't come back. So whole thing has become purely a sort of package deal, of little package deal, a package deal of little things, that anecdotes of information been given to them. Maybe in the name of tantra or maybe in name of yoga, whatever.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd the difference is, from that point of view, such as like Swami Satchidananda is concerned, that he came back, he became an old person in America. He understand American function, and he'd been here so many things he knows your bureaucracy. And he has no problem with his passport, his visa. And he does it, somewhat, very *special* way, which is extremely dignified, very wise.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut we have a problem with that kind of situation, that when you are dealing with the natives, American natives [laughter] that, \"can you spend enough time with them? Or you should make some kind of quick enlightening, flaring fanfare.\" That has become the problem. That has become problem. And that means that teachers themselves are full-fledged enlightened beings, but they begin to feel that their problems, the visa, the money, and time, their hosts, hostess, sponsors, are also impatient, they can't support such teachers long enough. And so they have to jumble the whole thing into little picnic boxes, to make, you know, good, good thing, at the same time, you know, effective, but doesn't burden their hostess. And that has become *enormous* problem. And I think we can't blame on the teachers or the students, but we can blame on general lack of money, if you could say so. That is possible thing. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=2915.0,3234.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39749/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ladies and gentlemen maybe we should close our meeting tonight. [Applause]\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=3234.0,3346.06933"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39750","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740716VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39750/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nSince we","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=74.12,75.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39750/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"discussed yesterday\nthe meaning of nonexistence,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=75.04,81.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39750/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would like to go further,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=81.48,86.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39750/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and look into much\nmore detailed situation,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=87.47,91.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39750/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the experience\nof *that*, nonexistence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=91.83,103.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39750/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Seem to be necessary\nfor us to understand","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=104.92,108.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39750/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that what we discussed\nall along","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=108.45,112.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39750/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is not particularly technical,\nbut it is experiential.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=112.61,119.27"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39750/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Experience,\nfrom this point brings,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=120.14,124.21"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39750/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sense of delightful humor;\nat the same time,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=124.21,129.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39750/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sense of complete\nopenness and freedom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=129.45,136.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39750/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the tantric tradition\nthat we are discussing,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=137.53,141.47"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39750/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this particular 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unmovable--\nimmovable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=187.52,193.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39750/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And complete solidness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077#t=197.69,201.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76081/file/164077/transcript/39750/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And such experience\ncan only 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