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Traces roots of Christian Buddhist Conference to Buddhist-Christian dialogues Trungpa Rinpoche had at Oxford, and his meeting Thomas Merton in the 1960s.  Trungpa Rinpoche describes any involvement with an \"ism\" as theistic, insofar as it separates \"self\" and \"other.\"  Resolves this duality by explaining that they are the same thing. Spirituality defined as any discipline that rouses one's spirit, generating a greater relationship with reality, and fearlessness.  Otherwise we look for a substitute for ourselves, which he calls a \"babysitter.\"  Meditation as means of addressing this tendency.  East or West, the point is to do it yourself, making a true connection with one's body and mind. In Q\u0026amp;A, questioner asks about beginning of King James Bible which says, \"In the beginning was the Word,\" and relates to vajrayana idea of svabhavikakaya. Trungpa Rinpoche replies that it represents \"communication.\"  Another questioner asks about deities in vajrayana practice and what kind of existence they have."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Speaking of Silence","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 02"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: SPEAKING OF SILENCE: Chapter 4: God and Emptiness: Theism and Nontheism\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.kalapamedia.org/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BZX282\"\u003eKalapa Media\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 2: Selected Writings: \"Theism and Nontheism\" (pp 584-585)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-383.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Mar 20 2021 to Apr 30 2021 Transcribing: Al SanValentin Checking: Jessyca Goldstein Final Proof: Leandra Ziegler Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1985"]}}],"summary":{"en":["A short talk touching on divergences and meeting points between theistic and nontheistic spiritual traditions. Traces roots of Christian Buddhist Conference to Buddhist-Christian dialogues Trungpa Rinpoche had at Oxford, and his meeting Thomas Merton in the 1960s.  Trungpa Rinpoche describes any involvement with an \"ism\" as theistic, insofar as it separates \"self\" and \"other.\"  Resolves this duality by explaining that they are the same thing. Spirituality defined as any discipline that rouses one's spirit, generating a greater relationship with reality, and fearlessness.  Otherwise we look for a substitute for ourselves, which he calls a \"babysitter.\"  Meditation as means of addressing this tendency.  East or West, the point is to do it yourself, making a true connection with one's body and mind. In Q\u0026amp;A, questioner asks about beginning of King James Bible which says, \"In the beginning was the Word,\" and relates to vajrayana idea of svabhavikakaya. Trungpa Rinpoche replies that it represents \"communication.\"  Another questioner asks about deities in vajrayana practice and what kind of existence they have."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/730/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1666473136","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19850726VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":2027.33713,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/730/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1666473136","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/164/730/original/19850726VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3?1660147188","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2027.33713,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/transcript/41019","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19850726VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/transcript/41019/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19850726VCTR1 - Naropa Institute - Christian-Buddhist Conference - Theism and Nontheism]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. Single talk given at Naropa Institute at the Christian Buddhist Conference. The title of the talk is \"Theism and Nontheism\", given on July 26th, 1985. This is a CTI custom remaster made March 2021.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730#t=0.0,27.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/transcript/41019/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTRODUCTION]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --everyone. And we're very happy to see so many of you here tonight. It's my pleasure to introduce to you tonight the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, the President of Naropa Institute and founder of Naropa Institute, and the founder of this conference on Buddhist and Christian meditation.\r\n\r\n\r\nThe Vajracharya has long been interested in Buddhist-Christian dialogue. This conference has long been in his mind. In the late sixties shortly before Thomas Merton's death, the Vajracharya met with Thomas Merton and they had conversations about spirituality in Buddhism and Christianity. And at that time, they dreamed that someday they would be able to have a conference, and actually, eventually a school where Buddhist and Christian spirituality could be practiced and discussed and shared.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn England, when the Vajracharya was at Oxford University, he engaged in Buddhist-Christian dialogue with the Anglican Church and the Orthodox Church. And after he founded Naropa Institute in 1974, he-- it was his dream that we would have a series of conferences like this; and that eventually we would found a school on contemplative religion, bringing together Buddhists and Christians, and of course eventually, people from other religious traditions as well to talk about spirituality, and to share our practice together. So it is our great pleasure and my great honor to introduce to you the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730#t=27.0,152.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/transcript/41019/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. It's very refreshing experience to meet with all of you. And it is more refreshing that you have decide to synchronize two traditions together -- that is to say, the East and West together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730#t=152.0,197.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/transcript/41019/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tonight's subject supposed to be on theism and nontheism. And as far as I see it, there is no differences, particularly speaking. If we declared that our involvement with any kind of \"ism\", it turn out to be \"self\" and the \"other.\" And my way of thinking, that the question of self and other becomes very important part. And in order to pursue something to that fact -- self and the other -- that it begins to create that the self and the other are surprisingly are one thing. Self is other, other is self.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730#t=197.0,327.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/transcript/41019/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe we should look into the definition of \"spirituality\", which has nothing to do with spirit or spirits. [Laughter] Spirituality means simply that when we begin to involve ourselves with any form of spirituality that is arousing one's spirit -- we're not talking about vodka or anything like [laughs] that -- but raising one's notion of deep and profound spirituality. Which could be said as somewhat like-- something to the fact of that one develops the notion of spirited-ness, and one begin to develop a notion of spirituality in a form of having a greater context with reality, and a sense of not being afraid of what reality is all about. Getting oneself into individual facts and individual energy, of that you can actually choose yourself, begin to work with the essence of your basic existence -- which could be known as \"reality\" or \"genuineness\", and so forth. That spirituality does not mean to say that you lack, or you have developed black hole in your existence; therefore, you are trying to compensate or build some sort of patchwork. But it is just simply means that one is capable of dealing with the reality. Which could mean that theistic or nontheistic level, that you worship somebody else or you would worship yourself -- it is same thing, same problematic situation that you are getting into. And reason why it is problematic is because you are not involved with yourself personally, fully; and you are using the religious framework of reference as though that camouflaging yourself, seemingly trying to become [UNCLEAR: natural?] , but you are very visible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730#t=327.0,689.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/transcript/41019/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Theism and nontheism is interesting definition of things as they are. Theism, you could say, worships external agent. And nontheism, supposedly, you are not worshiping external agent. But nonetheless, that external agents, or the very form of worshiping something else could become different, and that you are looking for your version of babysitter, at the same time. Whether you been set with a babysitter who's hired from outside world or within your family, it's the same thing. So the subject of the matter contains some kind of state of being hasn't been expressed properly, thoroughly. But we been trying to use some kind of substitute of any other form of babysitting for us, whether it is for us or for somebody else's-- come from somebody else or somebody connected with us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730#t=689.0,859.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/transcript/41019/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In order to cure the symptom, so to speak, that one has to develop some sense of meditative experiences. Because you can't bring your mind in meditating while you are preoccupied with something else. You are not meditating *on* something, but you are in a meditative *state* already. So therefore, the contemplative tradition of both East and West are very important. We are not trying to sort it out here which approach will be better, which approach might be futile. But we are talking in terms of personal connection with your body and your mind -- free from personal experiences of whether that particular type of merchandise would be more helpful to you or not.\r\n\r\n\r\nI think I shouldn't confuse you further. Maybe we could have a live discussion on it. You are more than welcome. Please feel free to ask questions. Mhmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730#t=859.0,1060.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/transcript/41019/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche-la. Jesus of Nazareth, it seems, came into the [UNCLEAR: theme? scene?] or appeared on the stage of Judaism after centuries of prophets having told the Jewish people as to how bad and wicked they had been, and they would get damnation and hell and brimstone and fire, and so on and so forth. I mean, the latter half of the Old Testament, it just seems just full of that. And all of a sudden it seems that this youngish boy appears on the stage -- or a youth comes into the scenario. And he preaches a message of hope. And he preaches-- or he brings to an afflicted people a sense of workability -- that their situation is not really as hopeless as has been proclaimed to them for so many centuries in the past. And one finds it-- I mean, [laughs] unfortunately or fortunately, I have three religions mixed in my background, the Hindu, the Christian, as well as Buddhist, so what I'm saying might not appeal to everybody, but anyway. He brings this message of hope or workability -- I mean, you talk about the breath of fresh air, and the absence of a brick wall. And a lot of the things which are recorded in the New Testament -- I don't know about the church interpretations of these; I think each church has its own specific style. But reading the New Testament just from the point of being a Buddhist, Hindu, and a Christian, all three together, [laughs] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --makes it obvious that there is a lot of parallelism between what Christ taught as a living individual, and what we find in the teachings of the mahayana and the vajrayana. And I'm surprised that the more I kind of get into this deeper, the more vivid it becomes and...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: More what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730#t=1060.0,1229.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/transcript/41019/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: Vivid. Vivid, the parallelisms become. One cannot say that they are the same; I would hesitate to do so. I mean, I think that the priests wouldn't be happy, neither the Buddhist nor the Christian ones. [Laughs; Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] But for example, \"Love thy neighbor as thyself\" is, you know, the very essence of the mahayana and the very foundation of the vajrayana. In fact, and we kind of take it a little further ahead -- of course exemplified by Christ himself in his own life in that he cherished others more than himself. I mean, what more can we ask for?\r\n\r\n\r\nSpecifically at this time, I'd like to ask your comments on the opening verses of Saint John, which [laughter] defines God. And since in Buddhist philosophy, we are very worried about definitions and datums and logical baselines, or whatever you want to call them. And we are dealing with theism and nontheism at the moment. I think it -- with due respect to all the-- all our Christian brothers here; if I'm wrong, please correct me. I think the old King James version reads, \"In the beginning there was the Word. The Word was with God, and the Word was God. The theme was in the beginning. All things were made by him, and there was nothing that was made that was not made by him.\" Now this is the definition of God in the New Testament. It seems to be slightly different than the Old Testament. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs; laughs] And of course, I mean, one has to accept that Jesus does come in fulfillment of the law and the prophets, rather than as to-- than to break the law and the prophets. It's-- he's definitely come to fulfill.\r\n\r\n\r\nThis Word -- I mean capital [laughing] W-o-r-d -- it has an interesting resonance in the Buddhist sense. And when we talk of the vajrayana, and we talk of the fourth initiation, we do have a term called the \"precious word initiation\" as you know very well, Rinpoche. [Laughs] And which is, I think, perhaps connected to the [INAUDIBLE WORDS] or to the svabhavikakaya, if I'm not mistaken. [Laughs] And if you were to take-- interpret Saint John from that point of view, I mean, God becomes a very friendly person. [Laughs] Would you like to say something on that? [Laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730#t=1229.0,1404.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/transcript/41019/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Phew! There's a lot more to say! [Laughter] \"Word is God.\" I think \"Word\" supposedly represent something to the effect of... communication. We talk more about that if you [laughing] go back to RMDC. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730#t=1404.0,1514.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/transcript/41019/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, you've mentioned theism and nontheism. And when you were speaking of nontheism, you said of how it's the worship of something outside of oneself. The idea of nontheism seems to be in reference to theism. Is there any such thing as \"no-theism\"? Could you address something along those lines?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As long as we don't worship ourselves, then that the whole thing is covered. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730#t=1514.0,1575.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/transcript/41019/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I'd like to ask you a question about the deities that are involved in the vajrayana, particularly what type of existence these deities have, and the purpose or meaning they play.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They don't exist. [Laughter] They are--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: They don't exist?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They don't exist. They are just mirror reflection of ourselves, mirror-like reflection of ourselves.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [Laughter] Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730#t=1575.0,1636.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/transcript/41019/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gentleman there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: You were talking about a babysitter kind of idea -- if we looked at something outside of ourselves as something that would be a spiritual thing for us. And I wonder how that understanding or notion would relate to the idea of devotion to a teacher, or in the Christian tradition, prayer as a devotional aspect also.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730#t=1636.0,1695.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/transcript/41019/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. I think it's quite simple in some ways. That it is like working with our individual habitual patterns, and getting somewhat close to the heart, as it were. There is two types of babysitters, as you know. [Laughter] One is that babysitter who had be hired, who has nothing to do with your personal household. And the other person would be babysitter, that you pay for your child, something like that -- older child who would take care of the younger child; in turn, you pay that person certain money. So getting close to the situation. But as far as the general situation is concerned, it's same thing. You have to deal with others. Whether the others come from your own neighborhood, or that they come from somewhere else, it's saying the same thing. So ideally speaking, that we should not have any babysitters. That you do it for yourself. That seems to be the ideal.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Wouldn't there be a danger of a kind of spiritual arrogance occuring--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730#t=1695.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/transcript/41019/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: Wouldn't there be a danger of a kind of spiritual arrogance occurring if you're always doing it for yourself more or less? You know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think-- I don't think so, because for the very fact that it'll begin to become part of your own involvement with reality. The baby have to be changed its diapers, and have to be spoon-fed, and all the rest of it. You don't have any time for egotism. The personal dialogue is cease to happen; so therefore, you are in good shape, so to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730#t=1860.0,1965.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/transcript/41019/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well ladies and gentlemen, I would declare this is the last talk. And I would like to say good night, good morning, everybody. It's time to for you to get further rest. Enjoy your being in Boulder. It's such nice place! [Laughs] Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730#t=1965.0,2027.33713"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/transcript/41020","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19850726VCTR1-Captions-ForAudio [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/transcript/41020/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa 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John,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730#t=1272.86,1277.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/transcript/41020/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which [laughter]\ndefines God.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730#t=1277.26,1286.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76231/file/164730/transcript/41020/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And since in 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