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Begins with the ground on which the castle of ego is built. There is a vivid description of wandering in a \"no-man's-land\": open space that has never known good or bad. The three stages of Ignorance which give rise to ego: naive ignorance, self-conscious ignorance, and conceptualized hallucination of ignorance. From this ignorance and no-man's-land, fascination arises which sets off the chain reaction of ego. At this point, we begin digging up bricks to build the castle.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eJun 27 2022 to Oct 22 2023 Transcribing: Jessyca Goldstein Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1970"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eThe opening talk of The Battle of Ego seminar, which follows an original allegory about the \"castle of ego\" and how to dismantle it. Begins with the ground on which the castle of ego is built. There is a vivid description of wandering in a \"no-man's-land\": open space that has never known good or bad. The three stages of Ignorance which give rise to ego: naive ignorance, self-conscious ignorance, and conceptualized hallucination of ignorance. From this ignorance and no-man's-land, fascination arises which sets off the chain reaction of ego. At this point, we begin digging up bricks to build the castle.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/273/480/small/open-uri20250521-778-37renc?1747839409","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20250521-778-vrr326.mpga"]},"duration":4775.28813,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/273/480/small/open-uri20250521-778-37renc?1747839409","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/273/480/original/open-uri20250521-778-vrr326.mpga?1747839409","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":4775.28813,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19701225VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19701225VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Battle Of Ego I - Talk 1]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Battle of Ego, held at Tail of the Tiger, Vermont. This is talk number one, December 25th, 1970. This is an ARP digital remaster made October 2005.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=0.0,19.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughter; laughs] Is such tremendous undertaking. I think we should be really careful whether we wanted to involve in such battle at *all*. It is very dramatic and definite kind of battle.\r\n\r\n\r\nCan you hear in the back? Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [Quietly] Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=19.0,95.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And I think this is perhaps most important subject, and particularly this year has been year of ego, whereas the year before was year of meditation. Strangely enough that meditation comes before ego. And a lot of meditation has been diluted through ego, or else been transcended ego. And definitely this year, 1970, is year of ego. So we are going to take a *last* look at ego. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=95.0,155.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The process of this discussion throughout our seminar will involve succession of procedures, a succession of battles, so to speak. But I hope this will bring some kind of conclusion at the end, when the next year begins. I hope [laughs] that it will be leading point of next subject of the next year, which we do not know what's going to turn out to be. And a lot of my talks this period is not particularly planned; it's just spontaneous talks and connected with situations around while I try to use the material that we have come across both for yourselves as audience and for myself as so-called \"teacher.\" But it's very much working together, it's very much working side-by-side. That whatever you have teach to me, that I have learned a great deal; whatever I have to say, also you have learned great deal. So it's kind of exchange, which has be very inspiring.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=155.0,244.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Particularly United States of America is very good subject talk on the theme of battle of ego. And it is one of the very crucial point that where there are a lot of religious concepts and ideas have failed to understand, failed to explain the real reason behind the fall of man and original sin, and all the rest of it. So it might be very interesting to look into this particular subject, how such a divine creation -- so-called \"divine creation\", quote-quote -- had fall into such hellish situations. And why samsaric-- samsara as such does exist, or nirvana as such does exist for that matter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=244.0,331.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So today that I'm going to talk is we're going to go into the details of-- minute details of the situations, as well as next day and next day probably we have to go through it very arduously, in the stages to stages. So I hope all of us here who are going to take part in the seminar will be patient enough to go through it, not expecting something beautiful and romantic, spiritual message, word of wisdom as such. It's not word of wisdom as far as that we are going to talk on the subject of ego and a battle. Something very familiar, something that I am going to talk on the terms of my *own* ego. Not it is directed to anyone else at all; it's my own experience. That's what I feel most worthwhile thing to do, that we frequently share. If you could share my ego, my ignorance, since I'm a human being myself, and egocentric person as such, then we could somehow make link. That before the wise words start, we have to also start with the fool. How to be foolish, and why foolish had to happen. Why the fool is play such important part in spirituality. Which is a very important point. I'm sure on this particular subject anyone can talk about their ego, which be very colorful [laughter], very beautiful thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=331.0,435.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We must know what we are before we start to jump into the conclusions of transcendental liberation, or enlightenment, satori, or whatever it's may be. Before we involve ourselves into it we must start looking into the situation of where we are, what we are. Which is the most really important point, and not romanticize the spirituality as something beyond, something outside, something higher or something deeper. That's what seems the problem started when we talk in terms of deeper and higher and greater, which means that we are dissatisfied with what is here *now*, and we don't want to really pay attention to at all. And when we talk of higher and deeper we automatically ignore the now and here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=435.0,498.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that seems to be the problem, that all religious traditions of East and West, of all schools have faced this gray problem. That no religious traditions have answer to deal with the particular, practical problems of their everyday life at all. Something is very dreamy, something's very wooly, so to speak. It doesn't have to be wooly something, it doesn't have to be beautiful, but it could be practical, it could be down-to-earth level of seeing things as they are, which is one of the most beautiful thing. If we know where we are then we don't have to fight, or we don't have to look for substitution or further investigation, in intellectual sense, and further enlarging ourselves in terms of ego. Become fatter and fatter, and bigger and bigger, greater and greater, or higher, or deeper. All these adjectives, words, seems to be funny, ironical.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=498.0,575.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So get back to the subject of ego is extremely important, extremely precious thing. To first of all make-- realize what we are, in order to become universal conqueror, universal chakravartin, or universal conqueror. That we have conquer ourselves, we have to conquer ourselves, before we start on anything else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=575.0,608.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But perhaps I should use some kind of symbolism in terms of a structure, which might be very interesting. Now if we're going to build a castle or fortress, we have to build on a particular place. If we are going to be warriors, that we have to build our castle on some particular location. That is to say that supposing we have no land to build our castle and our stronghold. We have to start our castle and stronghold on particular ground, particular place, and where we are going to build? We are going to build this castle on virgin soil, virgin land. That land had never been conquered. That land never had been under name of particular person, particular kingdom. Which is a kind of no-man's-land. Because then we feel that it is ours, because we have found it at the beginning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=608.0,715.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the traditional symbolism in Buddhism it talks terms of charnel ground, which is a very interesting subject. It is charnel ground because it never started as fresh thing, but it is been ground where birth took place and death took place. On this particular soil, people been born and people will be buried, and this is charnel ground. So we build this castle, on this huge gigantic island, with the charnel ground, or no-man's-land so to speak; whatever is it doesn't matter really. We build our castle of ego. Now we are-- I am-- what I'm talking is talking terms of ego; how we going to construct such castle, such stronghold?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=715.0,782.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is fresh ground which has never been possessed, which is what been called the basic ground, infinite basic ground; open space, perfect open space, open space that had never been possessed by any idea, any intellectuals, or any conceptualized structure of any kind *at all*; it's completely open ground. This ground has never known good or bad, or possessiveness, or renunciation or whatever is may be at all; it's completely open space, completely open ground. But somehow once we start to build-- decide to build this castle on it, this doesn't remain just as basic ground anymore at all. This becomes something different. When there's open ground it has the all the possibilities of establishing your building or your land, cultivating gardens and everything. In other word it has all the energies, it has sun shining through it, it has all the right kind of soil to establish ourselves, in terms of ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=782.0,877.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that's basic ground where whole thing begins from nowhere, but this nowhere has tremendous energy, tremendous characteristics of nothingness. Nothingness becomes very powerful, very extreme, and there's a spark of energy comes out all the time. Which attracts our attention to build our castle. But when we walk on this no man's land, completely barren and open space, and we walk on it, we begin to feel something funny about it, something insecure, something not right. What is not right? Because we haven't got anywhere to settle ourselves. There isn't even smallest bushes, to establish ourselves to sit back and lean on it. Or even there isn't a smallest rock, that we could nest ourselves in it. Something terribly unfriendly about it. It's all barrened and open desert, but it has possibilities everything -- sunshines and open land there. But somehow, it seems to be funny to just sit down and decide to sit there and establish our home. We have to find something else, at least a wind shelter, at least sunshade, of some kind. And suddenly we feel thirst and hungry. There isn't anything to eat at all, there isn't anything to drink at all -- no water. It's completely barren, but open -- if that helps you anything at all. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=877.0,1011.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So there we are now. I remember this little book, [THE] LITTLE PRINCE, talks terms of dealing with this, is that he was flying airplane and he crashed in it. And having crashed, then he found these-- this little prince, who come from the stars, and begin to talk to him. But there is something, some kind of record, record of plane, airplane, that he could work on it, which provide a kind of shelter or contact. But let's not make an awful lot of it, in our case. There's nothing to work on at all; even there's no dead animals around it. No dead spiders, no dead insects at all. Just pure barren ground, open space, with the sun shining constantly all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=1011.0,1076.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have no way to communicating with what we were or what we are. Suddenly we discovered ourselves in this barren ground of openness. Beautiful vision of course, if you look to the sunset or sunrise. But somewhat that doesn't apply to ourselves immediately, because that doesn't feed ourselves anyway. That doesn't produce water or food or shelter; just a beautiful vision, of all sorts of colors coming on. Flash of red, flash of blue sky, and deep gold color of your desert. Clouds going all the time. Even there's no hill at all; this is completely flat. When we look to the horizon we see just extension of sky, with our vision of a mirage. Once a mirage is dissolved, then it's just sky meeting the desert. It's completely open, completely barren. Now what we going to do? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=1076.0,1152.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How did we get here? Not only that but who are *we*? [Laughter] Who am I? [Laughs] We do not know who we are? Shouldn't we do something just-- instead of just being there and being involved with the colors of sunset and sunrise and everything, trying to look for something around; shouldn't we do something? Shouldn't we create, shouldn't we run, shouldn't we do something? Shouldn't we explore? And we begin to explore on this midst of nowhere, nothing-- nothingness. And by frantic exploration, frantic panic, such speed we run round, and the person goes to-- person begin to get fainted. He drop dead there, just fainted. And in his dream of course, that he has dreams of he had found beautiful land and fertile ground with palm trees growing and beautiful tree-- fruit trees, and everythings, and but he wakes up; there's no point. Continuously living on it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=1152.0,1265.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But he continues his exploration of digging up, and he find a stone, one stone. And all the ideas begin to build up around it. That is to say that it's running around is kind of energy, because he begin to regard this place as not part of himself but something external, something away from himself. Because of that then he begin to look for some way of building up, and he finds this stone, this particular stone and he gets all the ideas of building castle from this stone. And in order to do that he have to find companions. He sees his shadow, which is another kind of energy reflection that develops. Which is from the complete confusion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=1265.0,1334.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This confusion of trying to survive is very much of the first instinct. First of all that you see you are away from the basic simplicity of the landscape. Instead of just accepting it you try to run around or do something. And then the ignorance begin to derive from that. Reason why ignorance derived from that is because of one's so much frantic and excited fear, excited... fear of ignorance, or fear of not finding anything at all. And this particular ignorance has no intelligence; that's why this ignorance has been called is a dubious ignorant. Not knowing what to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=1334.0,1417.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then next stage of not knowing what to do, one still trying to struggle, or trying to indulge in this not knowing, which provides certain amount of shelter, certain amount of things to live with. And next development it starts from that, is ignorance of... ignorance that born with you, born within ignorance. That is another-- some kind of intelligence, but still it's ignorance. It's very subtle to make differences between those two: the dubious ignorance, to the born within ignorance are almost the same; but somehow that when you have decide to live and indulge in dubious ignorance, then you involve into the ignorance that born within you because then you manage to separate yourself from the ignorance, in certain sense, because you feel a spark of intelligence from that, within ignorance. And then this continues, goes on and on and on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=1417.0,1495.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And next stage develops is that of ignorance of fantasy, imagination. Because that you developed and manifesting this particular very small scale of ignorance, of born within. In other word, birth wouldn't take place unless you gave birth. And birth takes place because you feel that you have found something from the dubious ignorance, from that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=1495.0,1547.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So three stages of ignorance have developed. I think this is very important point to just look into. The first ignorance is nothingness, just ignorance; naive ignorance. And from that there develops the self-conscious ignorance, which is self born within ignorance. And then next to that develops the ignorance of... a kind of imagination, hallucination. When you develop this particular stage of ignorance, then we have found the basic ground, where this desert is there already, this big island is there already. But then we have to look for the stone to dig up in order to build our castle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=1547.0,1627.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that begins from further exaggeration to this conceptualized hallucination of ignorance. Because in other word that we have developed into a point of duality so much that we even separate our experience of ignorance away from us. All the time you might ask question, \"Who is this 'us', who is this 'we', experience ignorance?\" That is the basic intelligence, basic sunlight, the basic light that throws on the ground. This basic intelligence, which starts from everything, begin to perceive all this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=1627.0,1688.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we begin to develop this concept of \"feeling\", of feeling the ground of trying to dig up. And we build this tremendous castle, by digging up rocks underneath sand. We begin to build up a huge castle. And this castle can't exist without finding company, throughout feeling. And feeling is a kind of reaction playback, based on response to \"that\", to \"this.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=1688.0,1725.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This response to that and this is very much based on the cat-- kitten trying to play with its tail: it's that kind of hallucination, which is enlarged in terms of fascination. And the fascination plays tremendously important part in the after-ignorance, after have founded the last third stages of ignorance. Fascination plays tremendously important part. Because that's the only last thing that you could throw, in order to achieve whole administration of castle. The castle must be built with a particular style of architect, in order to protect ourselves from it the fascination works with it. The fascination of finding, designing, drawing one line to the next line, opposed to the next line and next line, which makes square. Square castle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=1725.0,1798.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the first kind of fascination is a straight line. And then reaction to that like echo. Then becomes down line and straight line and up line. So like echo, that this fascination builds chain reactions of process. It could be octagonal or it could be pentagon or whatever is may be. It could develop in all sorts of shapes, of designing this particular castle. And the intricate details of it, which is started by fascination. Because when you come across to one line then one begin to wonder what to do next, then you see another direction then just jump down it. Then you'd find another direction, then just is run through-- run across it. And when you find another direction then you run up. So whole thing is very much like... inquisitive rat. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=1798.0,1863.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we managed to build whole castle; not only square but up and down, and all the little things, holes, windows. Everything's work in that fascination. Having built a flat, square block then we must find some way to peek ourselves through, the window begins. We must find ourselves go out and check, then door develops. I mean this would be tremendous complicated to go into the *whole* details of how we build castle. But whole thing develops through that inquisitiveness of this ego's projection.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=1863.0,1916.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we have managed to build this castle, moat around -- very traditionally of course. [Laughter] Everything's worked with the-- with this inquisitiveness. Which we didn't actually get to the emotion or the feeling, which is next subject at all, but we just have begun the ignorance to the link between ignorance to the emotions or feelings, which is the fascination. The fascination seems to be the-- one of the architects of the building of a castle, that we managed to erect from this vast expansion of sand. And perhaps we should stop there. We continue building next day. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have a short discussion on it, if you want to ask any questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=1916.0,2001.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What is the first stone?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you think?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I have no idea.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's safe to say it's the first conclusion. Discovering that you could do something. Because all the time there's idea of trying to establish ourselves and be rooted. And the first impulse is having-- trying to dig up, trying to-- just trying to feel the texture of the earth. Then we begin to find the first stone is not real-- not really kind of natural stone. Would be better to say first brick, that when we dig up, begin to see the squareness of it, which inspires the whole thing. Which is really unfortunate. [laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=2001.0,2081.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What provokes the first discomfort with the space... initially?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's very uncomfortable to be on such space. Because it's not really discomforting of the landscape as such, but it's discomforting of \"me\", being in there: \"How am I going to relate to this land? How am I going to survive?\" It's a question of so much of this that \"I am myself in so much in the way.\" That feeling of that such \"heavy\" and \"me\" in there. It's kind of trying to find some way of covering for it. I don't think it's so much of the land but so much of the awareness of self-conscious feeling that provokes the whole thing. Because when you feel shy you have to build a mask, or something round your head, to put your head in the sand or something. You must do something. [Laughs] Like ostriches.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=2081.0,2158.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: Could you say it was the first manifestation into form caused by the energy that you provoked in just trying to find something?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, that seems to be the first karmic thing, that we talk about karma. That seems to be the first thing that... Whenever there's duality involved with the experience, then we begin to panic, begin to sow some seed. Like finding first brick, which led us to build the whole castle; chain reactions continues so on and on.\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: So the first brick is just energy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Energy, yes. *Intelligence*.\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: By-- used as a result of looking around to do something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: From nowhere.\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: And so it came out of itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Itself, yes. It's self-created. But from nowhere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=2158.0,2218.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: What would happen if the first brick was round instead of square?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Maybe it was.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Then goes round and round and around. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So it's just as well then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughter] Then instead of building square castle, you build round castle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=2218.0,2240.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: You talk about-- you're looking at the ground, you're feeling colors, the sun is coming down, there's sand. Aren't these the first decisions? I mean, aren't those really the first decisions anyway?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it could be first decisions, or could be the just colorful aspect of things as they are, which is a very delicate thing, you see. Each time when you see something colorful it could be the first decision, or it could be the first thing. I mean it could be just primeval sharpness of the colors.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: But to see them aren't you not-- I mean you're already identifying with something-- you're identifying them as something other, or are you talk-- I don't know if I'm taking this all too literally. Maybe I am.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Something?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: You see, I'm probably just taking it too literally. You're talking about, well, grooving.... First the grooving on the sunset...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: It sounded as though, \"I am grooving on the sunset.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well this could become--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Which is really the first brick, isn't it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: First-- yes it is that, that's very good.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: It's all happening instantaneously.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's the fascination. I mean that's kind of the inspiration to build a castle around you. Such beautiful locations, such things could happen. Which could be very natural process, that-- but because we begin to watch as external thing, then whole thing begin to develop.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Just seems that there's one instant where... it all comes down.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, the point is differences between the seeing colors and feeling the texture of the land, in process of digging up the first brick. Is the first seeing the color is the second ignorance that we've been talking about; the self-born, born within ignorance, which is natural process of ignorance. Which is quite natural thing; you don't have to run for it, you don't have to cultivate to it. But the last ignorance, of hallucination is really feeling the texture of the land, and we're trying to dig up our brick.\r\n\r\n\r\nYou see there's-- it's very, very delicate -- it's just a matter of way of looking at situation in a completely different way. There's the fascination in terms of color, which is a natural thing; you don't create colors. And there's a fascination in terms of feeling the texture -- you have to feel the texture but no one else does it. Becomes more and more personal connect-- communication, personal feeling. Because whole thing is getting much closer, and much closer, closer to *survival* of this \"what is\", this something which try to fight for it. Which is very subtle but is very profound thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=2240.0,2434.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What was the first sense I had?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: First what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What is the [INAUDIBLE] first experience itself as \"something\"? What was it *just* before that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Just energy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Does this energy manifest itself in the object of consciousness itself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because energy is such a living force.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But why is that-- the thing I don't understand is why energy gets itself into that box. [Laughter] Energy-- [laughter] energy suddenly becomes \"me\", and says, \"I'm me.\" And that's where all the fun begins.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because energy begin to become too active. It's like running around so fast that you begin to see your back. [Laughs; laughter; chatter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=2434.0,2517.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: That's the first duality then.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, exactly, precisely. But nothing is bad, you see. It's quite natural. Nothing that requires condemning, or regarded as original sin, or something terribly black, something that we failed to do anything. It's just the energy that goes on all the time. But once energy sees itself, begin to fascinated -- that's the whole point. That's why I'm use terminology \"running so fast that you see your own back.\" Once energy runs *too* fast, begin to confront with its own self, then the whole thing sparks out, and that vision begin to enlarge it.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut one before that, you might ask, is something that you have to come to a decision your own self. I don't think it's good to-- if you going into so details of looking before that. One have to find your own understanding. It's not wise to give conclusions, second-hand conclusions. But one have to find out oneself; that's the whole thing about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=2517.0,2619.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: What I don't understand is why I can't stop. We hear you, and it seems everybody thinks it's-- what you're saying is very satisfying, and maybe intellectually we agree and all that, but why can't I stop?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why don't you [INAUDIBLE WORDS]?\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Well, it's just-- I mean when you speak, there's a kind of anxiety. It's not that I don't want to [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because we don't allow any gap. Everything leads to next one all the time, because we are so involved in surviving ourselves. So much involved in surviving ourselves. Too much busy in building this castle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=2619.0,2682.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Aren't we also a little bit busy trying to protect ourselves from what might happen if we get too involved in building a castle?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So much what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: In other words, \"I am afraid because I'm spending too much time building castles.\" \"I'm afraid because I drink too much beer.\" \"I'm afraid because 'I this' and 'I that', and 'I something else'.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But that intelligence begins later on. When we start the castle already and when you put people-- occupy the castles, and that happens afterwards. But it's too late, I'm afraid, it seems. This seems to be the very, very sophisticated, because what we are talking now is very much in an animal level, instinctive level rather than analytical level. But once we have the prime minister and the kings in the castle, and the war lords in the castle, then we begin to think about that, but it seems too late. Which is-- this is very intellectual thing you see. You have a tech-- you need a technocrats to work with you, for your administration. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=2682.0,2778.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: So the more you can extend the gaps, the more you can get back to that state?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That sounds a bit too simple.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well that's very simple. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Theoretically, yes. But *how* we going to do it, that's another matter. I think we are going to have great fun in talking about it, kingdom of ego next stages. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=2778.0,2819.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nAL FISHER: It seems to me that, like if we were to ask you, \"how do you meditate?\" So you would give us an idea. \"How do you quiet your mind?\" So you can give us an idea. But supposing we ask you, \"How do you take your subconscious ego, and control it?\" And here you have your outer ego under control. And then when it comes to the final decision, your subconscious ego is there, and it defeats your whole purpose.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nAL FISHER: And you can't seem to get away from it. If you ask me \"how do you quiet your mind--\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nAL FISHER: --there must be a way. But if I ask you \"how do you control a subconscious ego,\" then I'm just asking.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nAL FISHER: Because we are in such duality, that the duality, the comparison, is always there *all* the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that seems to be the just being aware of-- I mean you don't ask in terms of \"does subconscious ego exist or not,\" but you ask \"how we going to control it?\" Which means that both you and me agreed on that such solid thing already, and then any questions connected with that it seems to be futile. But point is that we have to work on \"does such ego does exist or not?\" Which is much closer to \"how to meditate?\" for instance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=2819.0,2940.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I don't understand the difference between controlling that part of the ego, and building a castle.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Controlling which part of ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: The subconscious part or the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well subconscious part of ego is same thing as the castle, because castle builds subconsciously--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: And controlling it is the same thing as building a castle?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, the question is the validity of the castle. Is there such a castle or not? Which we have to work through. I mean is the administration of ego is so efficient and so perfect. And it is completely invincible stage. Everything works spontaneously, everything works automatically. Is there any gap?\r\n\r\n\r\nIt isn't question of controlling it, but it's a question of trying to see whether existence of that or not. The validity of it or-- which is a complete different way of looking at. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=2940.0,3032.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Well supposing you just didn't build any castle?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: And then-- [Laughter] Well, then you wouldn't-- then your ego wouldn't start to-- you wouldn't have an ego. You build a castle and you have all these fine things in the castle and you want more fine things in the castle, and then you want a bigger castle than that. And first thing you know you got into a mess, and you shouldn't start building a castle in the first place. You just lay down in the sand and go to sleep. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Somebody will come and wake you up and tell you that the water is fine. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE:Oh I know. It's a [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What would you do if you woke up with a terrible thirst?\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Woke up with what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: With a thirst.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: I don't know. [Laughter] You could look for water someplace maybe and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But supposing you couldn't find water.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Then what--\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: You just build a little hut, you don't need a big castle. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughing] That's the point. [Laughter; laughs] But hut *is* castle.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Hut is a castle?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Well something that doesn't take all this time and trouble and effort and everything to have a great, big enormous thing around you with a lot of people and a lot of fancy things, and all kinds of beds and [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why not? If you're thirst--\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Build a little hut and you lay down in the hut.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Don't you want someone to bring your water? [Laughter] Some expert.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Milarepa got it without even wanting it. He--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But he never built a castle.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Yeah, I know. He was smart. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=3032.0,3152.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Isn't the first decision we make, or the first desire, is a question of survival versus non-survival?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: But where do we start when given *that* choice? Like we have a, you know, like we have a choice to survive or not to survive. Where are we then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you don't have to look into that level. You can see that who is going to survive.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Versus?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Averse to who doesn't need to survive. I mean it's not a question of what with what, but who with who. I mean is there any such thing as wanting to survive at all? That's the first questions. Not question of whether we going to survive or not. Whether there is anyone that want to be survive. That's the biggest question. But once you start with something, then of course automatic thing is trying to survive, or trying to suicide. One have to choose either of them.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Or waiting till you die of thirst.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: What if you-- you just decide to wait until you die of thirst? You decide not to build a castle or a hut. You just die-- you want to die of thirst.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Then you're regarded as impractical person. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Maybe the wisdom will dawn though.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I doubt it. Once you have a central thing, it should be done properly. There is a saying that says, \"Mustn't done-- mustn't start anything; once you begun, must begin properly.\" So once you have some *thing*, one had to do it properly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=3152.0,3273.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: If you build the castle stone-by-stone, does that mean that you have to break it down stone-by-stone, or can you just blow it up?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Wait, just wait. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=3273.0,3300.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: What is it that makes you want to survive? Is it your ego that makes you want to survive?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because there's some thing to survive, someone to survive, already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=3300.0,3312.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: That thing can't be conscious of itself without *being* ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That wouldn't be?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Until it becomes ego, how is it conscious of itself as ego? That's what I don't understand.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see there's no such thing as really ego as something some particular standard of level, but it's just intensity of ignorance, intensity of duality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Or the awareness of ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Once there is some friction, it is ego already.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Friction, huh?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=3312.0,3350.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: I'd like to know not so much what is it that makes me want to survive, but what is it that makes me sit here and contemplate the possibility of not surviving?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's both the same thing. That's saying the same thing again. I mean whenever there is a survive or not survive involved, which is must be based on someone's help. When that someone is there already then there's no choice.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: All right well maybe I could put the question another way. Your-- what is it that-- what is the teaching? What is it that I *seek*, in that I feel that I can perhaps get closer to by listening to you? If there's no question of survival and there's no question not surviving, and everything's fine as it is, why do I sit here?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well probably that you want to find, is there anyone to survive or not.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Or possibly he wants you to run his castle for him.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, could be possibilities. [Laughter] You see idea is what basically the \"egolessness\", \"anatta\", \"anitya\"... or anatta rather, is based on trying to examine the existence of the \"thing\", existence of \"it\", \"he\", or \"she\". Rather than the should we destroy or should we survive it? It's like a very complicated game that we set. We could question someone who would-- could-- should we attack that house or not. But it isn't that question, it's question is that, \"Is there anybody else in that house that worth attacking?\" It could be empty house that we are trying to attack. It's a question of going really back and back and back to the root of the whole thing, or the whole matter. Rather than what to do with it. That's why it's called \"anatta\", which means \"selflessness.\" There's no one to save, there's no one to liberate, deliver from samsara. Is there anything else? Is there anyone at all to be saved or not?\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: So really it is just a-- curiosity itself is perhaps enough.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what I mean, fascination. Yeah, precisely, yes, fascination. Quite right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=3350.0,3561.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Can we call it spirit of inquiry, interests?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can we call what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Spirit of inquiry, interest.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sounds very complicated. [Laughs] We could call anything we like. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=3561.0,3585.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Does the first brick appear when we have some realization that we [INAUDIBLE] the brick, that we make it appear?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Duality-- does duality appear when we realize that we create the world?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. I think so, yes. It's very quick, very easy. That's why it says in the great writings of Tibetan teachers, samsara and nirvana is both two sides of a hand, or two sides of the coin. If you decide turn around you see samsara, if you decide turn around then you see nirvana. But it's the first friction which starts the whole thing. Because before that, there's no such existence as Buddha and samsaric beings at all. Idea of Buddha had happened because of that confusion. I mean if there's no darkness, then we don't have to talk about light at all. At all. So when there's darkness then we begin to talk about light.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Is that like looking into your own face?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Very much so.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: All human beings are born with-- I mean it's natural to be born with a so-called ego. Is that right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't say that, no. They began their own way. Like every moment we begin that way. All human beings have the two potentials, all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=3585.0,3719.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: If you turn around the castle's gone.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it is. If you look out, castle's not there. But if you turn around the castle's there very much. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: So there's a castle and a kingdom all the time?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Only when there's a \"you.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Castle and kingdom, as well as the desolate qualities all the time there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=3719.0,3751.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Being at the point where neither become nor desire to become or exist -- in other words maintaining the middle path -- would that be controlling the ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE] I don't think so. It's not question of controlling it, but it's a question of seeing the existence of ego or not. Once you try to control it then you already acknowledge its existence. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=3751.0,3794.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: I think you said the third ignorance was imagination, and out of that came fascination.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: What is the difference between imagination and fascination?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well \"imagination\" in this case -- I'm not sure about the word in English term. But it's instinct to give name. You see what I mean? Instinctive desire to label it; that's what I mean imagination. In other word there is some kind of clue that you can possess outside things, by switching onto something-- some different dimension; instinctively trying to label it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: That comes from the second ignorance.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As well as the third ignorance is very vivid and active. This particular threefold ignorance doesn't talk in the ordinary teachings of mahayana and hinayana, but it's described in the certain particular esoteric teachings of vajrayana. But I brought here because this is applicable to beginner's point of view as well, of just looking at the psychological stages of being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=3794.0,3884.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: It is like being born, sort of like coming out of the womb, the first stages of developing an ego? Is this--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's like a baby opening its eyes begin to see something colorful, trying to label it. You see it's very subtle. And the first one is the natural thing, just natural thing: nothingness, just ignorant and stupid, completely stupid but ignorant. And then second one is you begin to realize the ignorance is with *you*, that you have something to hold on to, which automatically makes you to proceed further. That there is a tendency to give name or label. But still very vague and very naive, of course.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: So imagination leads back to the second ignorance which leads back to the first ignorance. While fascination has nothing to do with this-- there's not a-- leads to a side road.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Fascination just completely kind of... it's like the whiskers of a cat, fascination seems to be. Just happens outright. I think it worth looking into this very detail differences between ignorance, really, in relationship to one's own state of being. It's very profound, very beautiful. Something very refined about that, in this way of looking at threefold ignorance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=3884.0,4009.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: What is it that happens to this barren land, that makes it suddenly able to bring forth vegetation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's a very good one. I was hoping someone would ask that question. Well that's kind of intervals, when you're tired of the struggle. You have a kind of secret message, private cinema show continuing it. Which one-- subconscious one begin to realize there is all the potentials of the completely maturity of ego. I mean this happens with us always, when we-- if you dislike somebody, in our subconscious thoughts or in our dreams that we have visions of that we are murdering them, killing them, destroying them completely. That kind of subconscious gossip. Because ego is not really this particular stage infant anymore. It's completely adult. It's completely sophisticated but it is not-- has not enough experiences to do things with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=4009.0,4152.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Is this first kind of ignorance you're talking about, is this part of the ground? Is this ignorance without self-consciousness, is this part of the landscape itself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's the [INAUDIBLE], but it's not quite part of the landscape. There's something... something very heavy about it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Is it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Something very--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: --is it duality yet, when this is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes it is already, because of its heaviness. Because of its intense subdued and... sort of doped, so to speak [laughs; laughter], quality. You know [laughs] completely broked down. Completely heavily intoxicated into it. Very, very much sort of a heavy level, kind of sleepy level. But there's *faint* kind of intelligence working, which manage you to-- *barely* manage to work to the next one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=4152.0,4229.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 27]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: What is the relationship of the charnel ground to the basic ground? I didn't quite...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the charnel ground is a place where you-- everyone dies and born. That's like just earth itself. Which could be regarded as outer dualistic point of view. But since we have to speak these terms, that-- I mean if we are talking in terms of nondualistic point of view there'd be nothing to be said at all. But just *is*, what is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=4229.0,4269.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 28]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: In the light of her question, did you say that this ego *does* have enough experience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ego does have?\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: You-- this ego's *does* have enough experience already? To work....\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it hasn't got enough experiences, but it has the intellectual and emotional maturity in it. Do you see what I mean? It hasn't got any-- enough experiences but it has the kind of potential of everything in it. It's like somebody who knows all the theories of things, but haven't actually put it into practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: So in other words one can rest assured that if one did just leave that ground, the sunshine, then if anything's going to grow it will grow? There's no need at all to do any-- one can just leave it like that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, because then there's no idea of sun shining at all. There's no idea of sunset either. It's land continuous like ordinary land, with no human beings in it, which is beautiful. Because there's no one to watch for it, no one to admire, so therefore no one to enjoy or suffer for it. You see, this idea of Buddha and awakened state of mind is a very new idea, in terms of this. There is no such thing as a \"Buddha\", which means \"Awakened One\". There's no such thing as teaching as such at all. There's no such thing as profound experience as such, because these terms apply to only a relationship to the confusion. So the idea is they were already there, so no one to acknowledge that, no one to perceive them, that's the whole thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: There's no way of getting there because you're already there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're already there, yes, [laughter] that's the whole point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=4269.0,4401.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 29]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Rinpoche, what happens if the guy, when he's there in the desert, instead of thinking about building a castle, [INAUDIBLE WORDS], he has no imagination, he has no fears of death. What happens? Does he die?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If he meditates--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's sound like a very sophisticated chap. [Laughter; laughs] I don't think he would meditate, anyway.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Well what if he just-- well I mean if he stays with the decision either of dying or building protections. Even if he didn't even have the imagination to foresee him dying from, you know, exposure or thirst or something, then he-- then if he didn't have that imagination, then he would die, he wouldn't survive.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He would die, he is a failure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Yeah. So you have to-- so you don't-- I don't understand. You have to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it-- you see once you have something, either you should kill or cure. There's no alternative. That's what happens with our life isn't it? Whether we survive, whether we kill ourselves. It's as simple as *that*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=4401.0,4486.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 30]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: You see you might get the castle all built, [laughter] build a nice castle, and then decide he didn't want the castle anymore. So he could tear down the castle and decide whether he wanted to exist or not. He has to start all over again. But what I mean is supposing he doesn't like the castle after he builds it. That could be. And then he [INAUDIBLE] you see.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: Then he comes to see Rinpoche. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Got a great big beautiful castle and he doesn't like it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Too bad! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: It sure is! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see, the-- I should tell you, this is very, very important to know this. All these two way of looking at situations: one is very much business-like, and exactly the same way is that how we going to work with our lives. And the other one is we are questioning whether it does-- the existence of the original aim or not, at all. Whether the idea of ego exist or not, at all. So once we have started on ego *does* exist as such, then we have to work on the really professional business sense. We have to build it up, or else you bank-- gone bankrupt. It's like successful businessman, or else you have to make a profit all the time, or else you drop the whole thing. There's no middle way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=4486.0,4587.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 31]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: You saw the castle as a cure, but it's a bit like the germs that contribute to a disease.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that might be say so. We come to tomorrow, that point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=4587.0,4604.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 32]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: What gives rise to the first state of ignorance? Why-- what-- why does that come from?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's something very fundamental, extremely fundamental and subtle. It should be left to individuals to work really out. I think it's too profound and too intricate to explain in terms of words. But individual discovery should be better than explaining it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Well did that term \"reflective energy\" have anything to do with the first state of ignorance?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: The term \"reflective energy\", that you-- you just mentioned something about reflective energy.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Does that-- is that one of the-- is that what leads to the-- one of the things that leads to the first stage?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I'm not going to give any conclusions, any clues. [Laughter] It should be really worked individually. Because that's *the* most important point to *how* you see it: *how* we gone wrong, and *how* things have gone complicated. That's very very important point, that nobody answers. When somebody asked the Buddha, and he said that, \"Even my tongue is numb.\" In order to answer that, one had to work on ourselves. And it's very beautiful experience to come-- I mean, come to conclusion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=4604.0,4707.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 33]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: If you really tear this castle down, don't you lose your ego? You see [INAUDIBLE] you tear all the things down that you thought were good at one time, and you just throw them away. Hasn't your ego gone then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think ego is all that simple- minded as you expect. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think ego is all that simple-minded as you expect. He's quite a smart guy, you know? [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Just looks to me as though there's no way to get *rid* of it, from what you're saying.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well perhaps it's not a question of getting rid of it, at all. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: You mean you're supposed to keep your ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No... [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=4707.0,4770.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80074/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well perhaps we should stop here.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=89.69,95.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80075/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And I think\nthis is perhaps\nmost important subject,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=95.26,104.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80075/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and particularly this year\nhas been year of 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numb.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=4680.84,4689.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80075/annotation/962","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In order to answer that,\none had to work on ourselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480#t=4689.03,4697.87"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148894/file/273480/transcript/80075/annotation/963","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it's very beautiful\nexperience to come--\nI mean, come to 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