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Distinctions between \"prajna\" (knowledge) and \"jnana\" (wisdom). Prajna as \"sharp perception without watcher\"; cuts confusion. Traditionally known as highest level of cognition; seeing things as they are. Compassion and prajna together \"ideal.\" In second bhumi, of spotlessness, discipline as key. True discipline as continually acknowledging the spotlessness of one’s existence. Discusses problem of speed, worked with by \"being\" in meditation. Zen analogy of leaving \"dead branch\" in forest. Begins to discuss oneness of samsara and nirvana. In Q\u0026amp;A, how to experience nowness in meditation; working with resistance to practice; poetic nature of boredom; how to meditate in awkward environments.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 08 2019 to Feb 25 2020 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Harry Einhorn Final Proof: Travis May Terminology Review: Matilda Perks Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1972"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eHow generosity and sense of richness of first bhumi opens to compassion and prajna, knowledge, of second, \"bhumi of spotlessness.\" Compassion traditionally as \"basic noble attitude to the life situation.\" Composure as necessary for experiencing compassion. Distinctions between \"prajna\" (knowledge) and \"jnana\" (wisdom). Prajna as \"sharp perception without watcher\"; cuts confusion. Traditionally known as highest level of cognition; seeing things as they are. Compassion and prajna together \"ideal.\" In second bhumi, of spotlessness, discipline as key. True discipline as continually acknowledging the spotlessness of one\u0026rsquo;s existence. Discusses problem of speed, worked with by \"being\" in meditation. Zen analogy of leaving \"dead branch\" in forest. Begins to discuss oneness of samsara and nirvana. In Q\u0026amp;A, how to experience nowness in meditation; working with resistance to practice; poetic nature of boredom; how to meditate in awkward environments.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/226/770/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1706659599","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1706659583_19720609VCTR2-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":4043.05756,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/226/770/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1706659599","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/226/770/original/1706659583_19720609VCTR2-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3?1706659586","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":4043.05756,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720609VCTR2-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19720609VCTR2 - Public Seminar - Practice of Meditation on the Bodhisattva Path - Talk 2]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled The Practice of Meditation on the Bodhisattva Path, held at the San Francisco Dharmadhatu in San Francisco, California. This will be talk number two, June 9th, 1972.\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is an CTI custom remaster made January 2024.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=0.0,26.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Reference to what we discussed already in terms of bodhisattva attaining first bhumi. Having developed sense of openness, positive thinking, that you can afford to give, that you can be generous, which can be-- that you are a worthy person, open person. Next situation is that further acknowledging or further development, that is to say, of that of compassion. \"Compassion,\" \"nying-je,\" Tibetan, \"karuna,\" Sanskrit, which could be referred as the basic noble attitude to the life situation, noble attitude to life situating. In order for you to develop that noble attitude of life situation, that one have to develop some sense of composure, so to speak, or sense of ground, sense of perspective. That perspective or the ground could be referred as that of \"jnana,\" the \"wisdom\" or \"prajna,\" more likely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=26.0,156.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Prajna,\" definition of prajna is \"sharp perception without watcher.\" Could cut through dualistic expectations of any kind. Abrupt and sharp, along with compassion. And \"compassion,\" the definition of compassion from that point is of \"openness, willing to communicate or willingly share.\" So, if you were willing to share as well, at the same time if you’re willing to cut, that provides ideal situation. You share-- you're willing to share your relationships of the involved situation in its fullest sense, but if there's any problems, any confusion involved with that, that you're willing to cut through, right through. So sharing and cutting seem to be the point of bodhisattva's work. Sharing in terms of compassion, cutting in the sense of prajna or knowledge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=156.0,255.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Prajna should not be referred as wisdom, because the sense of wisdom in this point is complete absorption, which only happens in the attainment of buddhahood or a tantric point of view. Wisdom, from this point, is being wise. Knowledge, from this point, is knowing what you're doing, precisely, accurately. So wisdom comes out of knowledge. If you know what you're doing, then you attain wisdom, which seem to be the opposite pattern in terms of the other religions, such as like Christianity or Hinduism or Judaism and so forth. That the rest of the spiritual traditions of the world tend to refer basic attainment as unifying with the God, ultimate entity. So you get notion of ultimate entity as wisdom. The sense of unifying, unification. In order to unify, you have to be wise, so you get wisdom afterwards.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=255.0,349.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the Buddhist tradition, seem to be opposite of it. That they-- in the Buddhism, there's no mention of ultimate aim object, external being that you can unify with anymore. So therefore there's no notion of knowledge involved with at all. So instead of that, we begin the other way around, which is the knowledge is important to begin with. Have to know what you are, then give up knowing, which is wisdom, ultimate sense of wisdom. The bodhisattva's path of wisdom is the last stage. And bodhisattva's experience of knowledge is the first stage. Prajna is the first stage. \"Pra\" is \"super,\" \"superior,\" \"the ultimate.\" \"Jna\" is the \"cognition,\" \"cognitive consciousness function.\" So \"prajna\" together is that \"cognitive mind functions in highest level,\" same as in Tibetan term, \"sherap.\" \"She\" is \"cognitive mind, knowing.\" \"Rap\" is the \"highest,\" or \"the ultimate,\" or the \"number one, first class,\" so called, so what. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=349.0,470.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So from that point of view, that what we are working with that is that is \"prajna\" or \"seeing things as they are,\" as been described Buddhist scriptures and texts of commentaries. Seeing things as they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=470.0,505.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The bodhisattva experience is way of working with the life situation, is seeing things as they are. But he's not really searching for wisdom. At that point, wisdom could be reaffirming himself or to prove that he is wise already, because he is not from that point of view. Just seeing things as they are is the starting point in terms of bodhisattva’s experience concern, that point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=505.0,543.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which leaves us to venturing to the second bhumi, the bhumi of spotlessness, \"tri-me\", \"trima mepa\", or \"vimala\" -- spotlessness. Because that coincide with sense of the discipline. Discipline is born within, rather than something to be disciplined as such. So discipline, the right situation is *there* already and spotlessly. So your part is to acknowledge that spotlessness in its own existence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=543.0,599.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So discipline from that point of view is not just controlling yourself and making yourself into replica of \"this\" and \"that.\" And the coincide or trying to imitate, trying to conform yourself into particular framework of reference of rigidity, any sense of curfew. Which you don't like to do \"this\" and \"that.\" But creative situation; that things does exist as it is, therefore you work with it. In other word, sense of practice of meditation, for instance. That you are not invited to meditate, or you are expected to meditate in terms of demandatary [sic], but meditation demands *you* in this case. Situation demands you to meditate, sit, meditate. Just sit and meditate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=599.0,686.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That we have been speeding a lot -- physically, psychologically, philosophically, spiritually, whatever -- in all areas that involve with ourselves with that particular trip. That we being constant speeding a lot, great deal. In order to slow down this speed, is you have to *be*, physically. Don't read books, don't write anymore. Sit, do nothing, absolutely do nothing. That's it. Just be. Psychologically, irrelevant situations happen in your mind are irrelevant by a certain innate nature. So what's the worth pursuing beyond that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=686.0,752.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Just drop as the-- as a dead branch in the jungle, as Zen master would say. Just leave it as it is. Don't bring that dead-- that wood, driftwood or dead wood back to home and trying to make it into a decoration. Leave it where it is. Just trying to leave it as things as they are, truly and fully. Spiritually [laughs], if you're confused on a spiritual matter of ideas, ideals of spirituality, don't bother to try to understand, don't bother trying to become spiritual. Just leave it as dead driftwood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=752.0,818.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Regard as unfinished business if you like, or enigmatic situation if you like. Nevertheless, saying same thing. Let be there. Just let things as they are, absolutely, fully. Don't pursue. Not pursuing, from this point, is the-- that sense of vimala, tri-me, trima mepa, or spotlessness is the sense of not pursuing. Seem to be the starting point. If you let things be as they are in its own innate way, then obviously there will be a pattern emerges out of that, some pattern emerges out of that. That pattern is to be let as it is, obviously. And that is the discipline of sitting practice of meditation, is to be, let as it is, to let them be as they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=818.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Discipline, morality. It would be rather difficult being let things as they are without some discipline. In fact impossible, because there's constant temptation to let not things be as they are all the time. Remolding, remanufacturing, reshaping, rethinking, technically, philosophically, and so forth, spiritually, and so on. But seem to be that's the starting point as we develop our way through is to regard ourselves as driftwood in the jungle, dry wood in jungle, which is \"that.\" And don't that dry wood in jungle bring home, which is making the \"other.\" If you bring that dry wood into home and make it part of our decoration in our home, in which that a certain avant-garde society would might've decide to do so, it's work of art. But don't do so. If you want to appreciate that work of art of dry wood in the jungle, go to the wood, appreciate it on the spot. Don't bring back to home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=930.0,1048.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"To will not play the part of a shop display if you bring back home. Whereas, if you left things in a jungle, the drift-- dry wood in jungle, it takes a certain amount of discipline to walk there in order acknowledge the things as they are. Whereas if you bring back home, that automatically means things *might* be as they are, as though your home is jungle, so forth. There's a tremendous difference between the two. To see things as they are, you have to walk to it and put yourself through that discipline of walking and doing it, getting into it.\r\n\r\n\r\n[unknown incident; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=1048.0,1119.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's the sitting meditation is walking towards to the jungle and appreciating in its own innate nature as things as they are. It's the discipline approach. Seems we experience tremendous confusion about discipline. The one school says, \"Let be, be casual, forget about the whole trip; let's hang around.\" [laughter] The other school says, \"That's a sin. There’s a compression of your imperfection.\" Change whole thing, remold everything into as though you been mold and manufactured in the factory. In fact, the notion of that you're presenting yourself as that you came out of a package in the back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=1119.0,1204.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And both approach seem to be, from this point is, if I may say so, is very simpleminded in a way. That looseness, being casual, everything's good, just be it, so forth, has a tendency of getting into the ultimate hypocrisy. That you would like to relax yourself, that you would like to freak out as much as you like. And such situation represented in terms of like nude therapy and the rest of it, whatever you have -- primal scream, shit in your crap, and cry, kick around. \"We understand you [laughter], that you're trying to be a spontaneous person.\" [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=1204.0,1302.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Somehow more lighthearted approach is involved. There’s not enough respect to the dharma has been paid from this point of view. Dharma is, from this point of view, a serious matter. It is understanding of possibilities you may not be there at all, or you could be there at all. The question of dharma, understanding dharma, is that we're discussing that your validity. Serious matter. Its conclusions dharma come to point, and say that you are not you-- what you are. That would be end of the game. \"I would like to hang onto. I'm completely destroyed. I discovered that I don't exist, so everything what we are trying to do is useless, terrible, absolutely worthless.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=1302.0,1379.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But on the other hand, the rigidity of the practice of dharma, from that point of view, opposed to the so-called frivolousness is the solemnity of solemness. Which is, again, extremely heavy trip, heavy thing. That things such as samsara and nirvana are constructed as like huge collection of boulders, which made out a wall. This huge castle is made out of huge boulders. One boulder is called \"samsara,\" one boulder is called \"nirvana,\" and then goes on and on [UNCLEAR: most of the time?] and around and around in samsara, and so on, so on. Which made the whole wall out of it -- in fact, a whole castle out of it, alternating between the two concept of samsara and nirvana, samsara and nirvana, so on, so on. And cemented those boulders together with idea of self-consciousness, which acknowledge those whole thing, which is kind of cement which put the boulders together. Whole thing becomes extraordinarily heavy, extraordinarily solid. More than solid in fact. There's no word for it. The word \"solemn\" starts to become rather feeble from this point of view, let alone practicing meditation or practicing or pursuing spirituality. [laughs] I mean, that's beyond imagination.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=1379.0,1504.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Having already had such solid thing to begin with, you can't imagine the furnitures, or you can't imagine the occupants who live in such solid whole-- solid thing. It's beyond word, beyond imagination, and things become solid and solid and solider, constantly. And, finally, one begin to question the perceptions of prajna, could be actually penetrate or whatnot. It's questionable. Those two polarity tend to exist on the two situations of discipline level, of shila paramita level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=1504.0,1554.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If fact, that lot of the traditions have developed so far, superficially, either related with the view one or the other. But there had to be-- there got to be a third approach, which is the approach that had developed the oneness of samsara and nirvana. Which is the essence of mahayana approach. Samsara and nirvana are coexistence. And that, particularly, one school in Tibetan tradition, called Sakyapa tradition, and the essence of the teaching is the oneness of samsara and nirvana.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=1554.0,1627.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The samsara and nirvana and its oneness, from those point of view of the extraordinary solidness and extraordinary superficiality, is remark of samsara and nirvana are one seem to does not play important part, really. But when we hear those words, that we try-- we get sense that those remarks-- that remark of samsara and nirvana being one, either being solid or frivolous, because solidity and frivolousness do not bring us near higher peak. That we turn-- we can't able to communicate with such notion, at all, because our adulthood and being frivolous or adulthood being solidness are so grown up. Anything else mention outside of that realm is referred as a purely child's play. And that's the perfect point where deaf and dumb of ego begin to play important part. That you can't receive teaching, that you can't *see* the teaching. You're self secret, because you have your own innate point of view of all kind, whatever, solid or frivolous, whatever, solid of selfness, whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=1627.0,1733.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But that insignificant remark constantly remain insignificant all the time. The remark of samsara, nirvana being one is extraordinarily insignificant remark. It doesn't mean a thing. It doesn't say anything. That's why they trying to say it. Extraordinarily insignificant, completely insignificant, highly insignificant. [laughter] It's so much so that it becomes a part of the basic instinct of insignificancy of that there's no existence samsara, nirvana at all in the beginning. That's why the reason why teaching of Buddha has become difficult to hear or difficult to communicate to people, because it speaks of such insignificant language. \"That's not significant, this not significant, what we trying to say is the epitome of those insignificancy.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=1733.0,1819.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At that point, the bodhisattva's level, coming back to the train of thought, from discipline, begin to teach approach to the \"shentong,\" \"patience,\" \"sopa.\" Because things are so insignificant, utterly insignificant, if that is your working base in your practice, then there does not exist any struggle. The patience is, in other word, seeing the irrelevant of the struggle in other word. Struggle doesn't exist at all; therefore, patience exist. Whereas, if you approach from the outsider's point of view, that if you have a struggle, therefore, you should have patience that going on and on and on until you drop dead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=1819.0,1904.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, in this point, it's infinite patience, because you begin to see the struggle doesn't exist; therefore, patience *is* the innate nature of yourself, constantly. Whole thing is approach from the level of \"tathagatagarbha\" -- \"innate nature of spotlessness,\" \"innate nature of \"patience-ness.\" And then all the time the underlying process goes on constantly, on and on, which creates the spiritual practice as being on the whole that related with that of insignificancy. Unless we able to see the insignificance of the practice, utterly insignificant, that there's no way of getting through bodhisattva's path. And, instead of being bodhisattva, that one tend to become \"arhat\" or \"pratyekabuddha,\" which means \"self-enlightened person.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nCould stop this point. Discussion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=1904.0,1979.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED LILA KALLMAN: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sounds good, yeah, yeah, yeah. *Yeah,* that's true, yeah. I mean, your expectation is so much that, finally, tremendous comedown. Yeah, that's good. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=1979.0,2005.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well, I was wondering about the devotion aspect? It seems that [UNCLEAR: Milarepa?] [INAUDIBLE WORDS] it's so strong and soft. Where the belief in an \"I\" was always transferred to the belief of his guru of dharma and so insignificance of all of it. [INAUDIBLE WORDS]. [laughter] I mean, we don't seem to have that devotion, [UNCLEAR: same kind as of that?]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's questionable. [laughter] Devotion, at this point, is seem to be how much we are devoted to ourselves. How much *we* are devoted to ourselves; therefore, that mean devotion to the \"other\" who might help you. I mean, your love to a doctor, your criteria of importance of doctor is purely based on how much you are sick, how much you're helpless, and that much evaluation is made about the doctor. The doctor is important, because you're so sick.\r\n\r\n\r\n[sounds of adjusting microphone] [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[UNCLEAR: Maybe cake?]\r\n\r\n\r\n[sounds continue]\r\n\r\n\r\n[laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nMhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\n[laughter; applause; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\n[unknown incident]\r\n\r\n\r\nMhmm. From Vermont.\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=2005.0,2238.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nANDY KARR: Sometimes I feel tremendous resistance to just sitting down and meditating, my own sitting, to continue sitting. What does that come from, and what would a disciplined approach to that be?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, sounds like that one's looking for entertainment. That one's looking for entertainment of all kind. That when you begin realize that wouldn't entertain you, then there is a sense of that you have to put up with your boredom constantly. Maybe the boredom is the path from that point of view, but not realizing it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=2238.0,2303.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: That reminds me of a remark I'm told that you made once that true discipline is maybe achieved when you no longer want anything to happen. No longer has that and knowing it's like craving for stimuli. Doesn't seem to matter in the end whether they're pleasant or unpleasant.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That seem to be the starting point, yes. That \"achievement,\" basically, has connotation of reaching some kind of goal.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. It-- or become Superman.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So, I--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And I was reading the other day of Superman comics [UNCLEAR: which is very fun?]. [laughter] And he sounds like the ideal clergyman. [laughter] That he saved everybody's life, and he is powerful, he's wise at the same time. He's competent in doing everything. He’s the ideal clergyman. He could care for the nation and society and everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=2303.0,2403.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Concerning this chant that we did [Sadhana of Mahamudra], does \"the great wrathful one\" come out of the spotlessness? Is that the pattern that emerges?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the great wrathful is seem to be because he's so peaceful that, therefore, he's so wrathful. This comes out of the peaceful spotlessness, the smoothness. That we can't attack, because there's no crack of confusion. Whole thing is there, constantly open; therefore, it is-- there's no exit to distort that situation.\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=2403.0,2454.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You know, Krishnamurti says that we must once and for all cut through. And I hear we should let go.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Repeat the last one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: We should once and for all cut through-- cut--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --once we see the perpetuation, play of emotions and thoughts, we should just stop them. That I-- or what if I-- when I think about it to do it, then a certain kind of energy within me that I have to be a certain way for that to happen. I mean, I've been coming to that kind of state. I *do* it, and that seems like-- yet, from hearing you or the way I hear you, let's put it that way, I hear that we should just let it be. We should just watch or I don't know. I get confused. [laughs] There--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that first cutting through is starting point. Whether you decide to close ourselves in or whether we decide to dance with it or take a chance [INAUDIBLE WORDS]. I mean, that seems to be the prominent thing, at least what's happening with [INAUDIBLE WORDS].. Situation that developed around my students is either that that sense of first shock is being efficacious or else that first shock is being regarded as something undesirable. That seem to be something definitely black and white qualities of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I'm sorry, I didn't understand. I don't understand--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: You said first shock.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: First shock.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I didn't-- I didn't [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the first shock is either qualities of being medicine or poison. It might kill you; it might cure you. I suppose that's one that's operating from level of tantra level. That at least, in that particular presentation of accept as medicine or poison has the sense of definite qualities that you're willing to work with the energy or whether you reject energy in some other way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=2454.0,2698.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Where do you fit occult thoughts into your-- into the scheme? I can’t quite-- like Theosophy [INAUDIBLE WORDS], all this stuff, flying saucers... [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE] Did you say how many fit into it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah, I mean, like there-- It seems like all these things are occurring in [UNCLEAR: different directions?] all these beings [INAUDIBLE WORDS]...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think we could fit into it, unfortunately. That we can fit into the pattern of understanding by saying that these fantasies are purely in the realm of mind, which the yogacharans would say, Buddhist tradition.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] when the god realm finds that you couldn't [UNCLEAR: see?].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, [UNCLEAR: well there’s no lighting?] [UNCLEAR: other than realm of one?] . Otherwise, you don't have to-- you don't perceive anything if there's no [UNCLEAR: way of? real?] light. You can't perceive anything if they're not [UNCLEAR: black and white? realm of light?]. They're not [UNCLEAR: knowable?]. It seemed that there [UNCLEAR: because? the cause?] fascination of prajna that developed does not really fit into any other patterns. It does fit into samsaric frame of mind including space that is [UNCLEAR: Lunar? ] escape, and so forth. And somewhat they go through it, they-- they go cycle around, same category.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=2698.0,2844.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I think meditation is helping me recognize when I'm in a dualistic situation and dissolve whatever [INAUDIBLE WORDS] who are somehow cut through something. That I find it difficult to establish a continuity of practical perception so that I can see a situation coming. I can't see my-- like, I'm not conscious of my thoughts, and I'm-- that question about whether thoughts could be conscious, you know. It perplexes me a lot. Like, I can understand cutting through once you're already in a dualistic situation but moving on from that towards a new situation, change of situation, maintaining some kind of continuity perplexes me entirely.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see the whole point is you don't have to become too ambitious of what's happens next. You are not in the \"next\" yet. In any case, we're not in next. We're not into tomorrow; otherwise, there couldn't be a tomorrow, and there couldn't be today, yesterday, and so forth. Since we are today, since we are involved what we are, and, if you work with that situation, then, automatically, you find your way through. It's, in other word, face-- faith in the \"now.\" That \"nowness\" is the only situation that we could work with. That *is* situation already and doesn't matter what's happen next. If you fear what's happening next, that is the-- your discomfort of being now or then your seducing-- your seduction, being in now.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Do thoughts come in and out?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, don't you think so?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I guess they just did. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, [UNCLEAR: thought a new kind? we bought a new car?] yesterday or tomorrow, [UNCLEAR: of course? thought's? that's?] today. [laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=2844.0,2997.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I was just thinking back to that question where I asked in the interview; I don’t remember the first time I did meditation at Allenspark, [UNCLEAR: all things looked brighter than before I'd done?] meditation before. And I’ve been involved, and this bomb went off, and this-- the bomb right then, it's like crystallization for a split second. Now that place where the bomb goes off -- that vibration, and everything is just real clear, but it crystallizes the \"other.\" What is that place in Buddhism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don't know about Buddhism, particularly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well, that's all I'm-- I don't know anything about--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But, as things as they are. Sounds like it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Yeah, okay. Anyway, you want it. [laughter] Anyway, the place I'm trying to describe is what I'm interested in. That place where I'm-- [UNCLEAR: before? where?] I'm meditating [UNCLEAR: and? on?] that vibration. The first time I had ever heard a bomb and, you know, still I'm on that-- it's very interesting sort of like a peaceful presence and it sort of-- I got some further reaction from it and a long vibration. That state, where does that-- what state is that? [INAUDIBLE WORDS] in other words in dualistic communication?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that seems that seem to be something that discovery of \"you\" and the \"other.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Could you say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Realize that you and the other. In that level, automatically, when you discover the \"other\" and \"you,\" it's going to short circuit.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [UNCLEAR: That-- they-- they’d all?] there's no more to that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, you need a gun for the powder and the fire to make a big boom.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Who boom for you?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nobody. That's why they call \"negative.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is that what crystalized?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, meeting of positive and negative brings short circuit.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=2997.0,3158.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] first shock?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah, yeah. It's first shock from meeting a negative and positive. Negative is the shock; positive is the expectation, which clashes between the two.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [UNCLEAR: When it says how to prove in a special experience?] [INAUDIBLE WORDS] so [UNCLEAR: listen to? learn to? separate?] lots of things we experience a first shock. Are you saying as students, you know, they must have shock, because they had black and white [UNCLEAR: connection? reaction?] [UNCLEAR: to it?].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean it--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What type of things besides the bomb [INAUDIBLE WORDS] first shock.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, it may document effect but, of course, [laughs] that there is a constant apprehensive expectation and mental creations of what things might be. Then, not meeting the things might-- things might be. But they’re able to see things they might be. Those constant have creation of explosions of themselves. It's sort of *stop* rather than explosion from that point of view. And sudden whole thing becomes [UNCLEAR: standard?] thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=3158.0,3261.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [UNCLEAR: A youthful hand?] Gentleman in the back.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Does it seem to you as though future events sort of are put it up in present too though. Some things seem to be coming together and ready to grow, and those things seem to be sort of future things, right here now, and some things seem spreading apart, sort of going away. So those things seem to be sort of past things already in the present?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm not too sure what you're asking, but sounds like you're answered your own question.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: We were speaking about expectation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: So, doesn't it seem as if somethings are coming together--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: -- and those seem to be things, sort of future things.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: So one doesn't necessarily have to have shock just from expectation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. Expectation brings the shock. The expectation brings in the traditionally of story like Tilopa slapped Naropa's cheek with his sandal. You see creation of expectation of Naropa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=3261.0,3367.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The hairy one. You have one?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Stopping, pretend you’re stopping thoughts. You know, like you’re stopping the thoughts and listening to things without trying to fuel our mind. I’ve heard, I think, certain teachers even suggest that or say that’s what has to be done.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Stop.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah, just stopping the thinking. [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Really?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Somehow [INAUDIBLE WORDS]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah. [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you can’t anyway.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah. So [UNCLEAR: I thought at the same time?] [INAUDIBLE WORDS]. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you can’t anyway. [laughter] It sounds like mutual deception. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=3367.0,3431.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: When you start to realize that your ambitions and goals are like an endless merry-go-round, it doesn't get anywhere, but it’s like you’re putting on that keeps you getting bored. What's the thing to do then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, work on the boredom, simply.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Work on the boredom?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Boredom is a very exciting thing. [laughter] The boredom could be said [INAUDIBLE WORDS] lying in the jungle with all kinds of birds chirping, all kinds of animals things happening and rain dropping on your head. It's very poetic to be bored [laughter] if you agree with Basho. Sounds like Basho is more likes constant boredom. That he's seeing the same thing, and he's watching moon after moon and after moon, [laughter] pine tree after pine tree after pine tree, [laughter] but he enjoyed it. [laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=3431.0,3542.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I’m trying to figure out talking about writing, and the medium of writing brings up a great deal of anxiety in the sense of expectation and involves things of that sort. Therefore, in some sense, it seems useful, you know, to go through those things and feel maybe a resolution somehow. Maybe not too intentional but, you know, insisting creates so much flack and maybe it has something in it, [UNCLEAR: do it, you know to work with?] but, then, I'm wondering-- if [UNCLEAR: complaining? I've been playing?] with myself, why don't I just give it all up? Can I just give it up?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, you don't have to give up the whole trip because you're involved yourself into it. I mean, it's-- it would be like just suddenly decide turn off your motorcar engine middle of a highway. You don't have to do that. I mean, the pursue or involvement into the path is not heroic. If you turn your motor engine middle of highway, you might get yourself a newspaper. [laughter] And we don't have to do that, particularly. [laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=3542.0,3648.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Sometimes, my work takes me to places where I try to meditate in my motel, you know. And if I meditate in the motel, I find after a few days I have gotten myself pretty sick. I find that a lot of bad energy comes into me from certain surroundings, and I try to be--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Bad energy--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --from the motels? [laughter] Yeah, go on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Is there something I can do when I’m sitting to make myself not taking in too much dead air?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I can sympathize, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah. What should I do about it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, I can sympathize with you. At the same time, I can develop humor out of it, same time. It's purely related with our concept of being in a motel and Americana of the whole thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It's from our concept of that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think, that's concept, yeah. I mean, I enjoyed living in motel myself. [laughter] Although, of course, I would see the plasticky environment that has developed in terms of motels or even hotels or whatever.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You mean, that we can meditate anywhere, and it doesn’t matter where you are?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, meditation does not have to depend on environmental situations. That's the whole point. That Zen practitioners does not have to purely sit in the zazen, as known as zazen hall, zazen hall. But they-- their jungle could be zazen hall. And we don't have to relate with the whole thing as being special organized part. Now, I mean, other words-- the-- in other word, that with, if he relate with the whole thing as just purely external situation that [UNCLEAR: would be right? We provide?] and then you could meditate in it. We have no end to it. And it we can go on, on and on.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd we could say that, \"I'm not going to meditate today, because I'm in the motel, but tomorrow I'm going to be in Zen center, in zazen hall. So, then, I save my energy for that.\" [laughter] And we could go on and on and on. I mean, there's endless situation like that evolve. As Buddha taught, *things as they are* in [UNCLEAR: your privacy?] of your practice of meditation, sitting practice of meditation has never been anywhere else but where you are. As long as *you* are as you are with your well-equipped ego there with you, you can meditate anywhere. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: What was the last thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: What would you do about the negative influence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's creative part of the decoration of the environment.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Just ignore it [INAUDIBLE WORDS]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we sit here and meditate, but you did, hopefully. And this place is made out of bricks, pipes going up, electrical wires, not particularly attractive from that point of view, at least the aesthetic. Except we have shrine and a nice floor, except we have nice people to sit with. I mean to say that could be said the same thing, [INAUDIBLE]. It's how you work with yourself, how you relate to your emphasis or expectations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=3648.0,3926.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: The only thing is I've been getting older and keep feeling myself getting less and less concrete, but not an altogether maturing manner. 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Because that's the sense of getting beyond expectations of all kinds.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=3926.0,4027.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64229/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well friends, I think we have to [laughter] *end* at this point. Please follow a similar schedule tomorrow, getting together and attend the [INAUDIBLE WORDS], sitting and so on.\r\n\r\n\r\nThank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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\"pratyekabuddha,\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=1965.56,1969.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64230/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which means\n\"self-enlightened person.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=1969.94,1972.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64230/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Could stop this 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[laughter]\nI mean, we don't seem\nto have that devotion,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=2030.85,2036.73"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64230/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[UNCLEAR: same kind as of that?]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=2038.23,2045.87"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64230/annotation/345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nWell, that's 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That's why\nthey call \"negative.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=3144.34,3150.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64230/annotation/530","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER6:\nIs that what crystalized?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=3152.89,3154.51"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64230/annotation/531","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, meeting\nof positive and negative\nbrings short 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[INAUDIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=3398.41,3402.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64230/annotation/585","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER8: Yeah.\n[INAUDIBLE WORDS]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=3402.94,3404.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64230/annotation/586","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nWell, you can’t 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So\n[UNCLEAR: I thought at the same","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=3406.84,3408.377"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64230/annotation/588","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"time?]\n[INAUDIBLE WORDS]. 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I can sympathize, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=3683.12,3686.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64230/annotation/637","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1:\nYeah. What\nshould I do about it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=3687.61,3689.21"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64230/annotation/638","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nWell, I mean,\nI can sympathize with you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=3690.01,3694.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64230/annotation/639","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the same time,\nI can develop humor\nout of it, same 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Yeah.\nAnd it sounds very fertile.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=3984.33,3991.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64230/annotation/703","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fertile.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770#t=3993.09,3994.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121616/file/226770/transcript/64230/annotation/704","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: Yeah, I\n[UNCLEAR: got the whole 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