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Human realm involves intense grasping by logical, reasoning mind, as well as a poverty mentality of loss and inadequacy. Critical, ambitious, competitive mental state in which thought processes of plans and strategies become overwhelmingly powerful; simultaneously busy and dissatisfied."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Transcending Madness","BOOK: Myth of Freedom","BOOK: Sanity We Are Born With","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 03","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 06"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: TRANSCENDING MADNESS: Part 2: Chapter 4: The Human Realm\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/transcending-madness-1570.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: THE MYTH OF FREEDOM: Part 2: Styles of Imprisonment: Passion\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-myth-of-freedom-and-the-way-of-meditation-1073.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: THE SANITY WE ARE BORN WITH: Part 2: Mind: Chapter 12: The Six Realms: Passion\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-sanity-we-are-born-with-1298.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 3 (in contained book THE MYTH OF FREEDOM)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-384.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 6 (in contained book TRANSCENDING MADNESS)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-380.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Jul 24 2023 to Feb 03 2024 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Julia McKaig Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Human life contains all six realms of being; here the \"human realm\" refers to a state of mind associated with passion, extreme chaos, and uncertainty. Human realm involves intense grasping by logical, reasoning mind, as well as a poverty mentality of loss and inadequacy. Critical, ambitious, competitive mental state in which thought processes of plans and strategies become overwhelmingly powerful; simultaneously busy and dissatisfied."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled The Six Realms[States] of Being, given in Barnet, Vermont. This is talk four, The Human Realm, given on December 29th, 1971. This is a CTI custom remaster made July 2023.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: [Jeremy Hayward] Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on the six realms of being, Tail of the Tiger, December 1971, fourth talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=0.0,51.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seems that today we could discuss the realm of human state, which is associated with-- particularly with passion. The human realm that what we are discussing is not the necessarily the literal state of human life as such -- but there's something to keep in mind in discussing all these states, that we are discussing in a sense the aspect of human life which contains six types of realms within themselves. So it's a human realm in terms of also that certain state of mind, and tends to stuck in this extreme as much as that of asura and that of realm of gods.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=51.0,194.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And human realm seems to have two possibilities. The one is the actual human life, which contains a tremendous open karmic situation, in which that we could function intelligently, and we could make choices -- you could study and meditate, we could change the karmic situation as we evolve. But the other type of human situation that we are discussing, which is a part of the six realms of world, and that is the extreme case of-- human realm is effect of a certain extreme chaos. And from that extreme chaos, related with passion, this extreme human realm begin to develop. As much as in the human life, you develop animal realm, or hungry ghost realm, or jealous gods realm, or whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=194.0,311.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this kind of human realm is a process of grasping, extreme grasping situation, where that a certain amount of intelligence functions. In other word, intelligence in the sense of logical, reasoning mind functions. That reasoning mind is always geared towards trying to create happiness, pleasurable situations. And there's immediate tendency of separation between the situation of pleasure and situation of experiencer of the pleasure -- a sense of lost, sense of poverty, often accompanied by nostalgia of re-- trying to recreate of past pleasurable situations as well. So it’s a result of extreme dualistic split. That projections are regarded as ultimate answer to bring about some kind of comfort, and therefore you feel inadequate in terms of projector, that you are not strong or you are not magnetic enough to draw these extremes of external pleasure into your realm. So one try one's best to try to draw them in. Often a tendency of very critical situation-- critical attitude, I mean. Critical attitude towards other people around this human realm, and seeing them as imperfect, and one begins to see one's own situation of perfecting, the ideal perfection, becomes fantastic, sensational target to achieve, to get at.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=311.0,495.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is a constant striving, which is associated with, in the families of buddha, padma-type mentality of magnetizing, selective magnetizing. That if you have to magnetize, you have to have discriminating vision of you want to magnetize the best qualities, the highest or the most pleasurable situation, or the most sophisticated, the most civilized situation. That way of magnetizing is quite different from certain magnetizing process which might involve in the asura realm, again as well, in terms of jealous, but that kind of magnetizing is in a sense very blind, in terms of asura realm. It is not as selective and intelligent as much as the human realm. And the human realm contains so much of selection, rejecting certain things not your style. There's a tremendous sense of you have your own ideology and you have your own style. That any way of magnetizing situations around you, to enrich-- in order to enrich your basic being, that way of magnetizing is just have to be precise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=495.0,616.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So this case of human realm it seems to be extremely selective and fussy. You just have to have right balance of everything, which is also accompanied by comparative intellectual understanding of the others. That they are-- the others have either-- others-- on the other hand, the other people does not meet your taste, your style, so they could be criticized, condemned. Or else there's other type of situation which might meet your style, in fact much better than your style, sort of ideal situation, superior to you. And one wish to be one of those who are much more intelligent and has a very refined taste of leading pleasurable life situation, or getting right things you would like to have, which they have managed to do so -- either in terms of historical person, which could be said in terms of mythical person that point, or the-- your contemporary. That you observed, you have seen them, you been with them, and you’re highly impressed by those who perfected thing, intellectually convincing, from a practical point of view also envious, everything's together. They got everything together, and you would like to be part of those.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=616.0,746.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But this could be said is in a sense jealous, asura-type mentality, in the general point of view, but not quite so. It has the qualities of mentalities based on grasping, or trying to draw the other situations into your situation. So it's more than just envy, more than jealous -- it's ambitious-jealous, or you could say it's realistic jealousness. You don't just become jealous of the person, but you would like to-- you will be jealous as well as you would like to compete with those situations, so it's a very practical one, extremely ambitious kind of jealousness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=746.0,806.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And whole process in this case is always grasping, holding onto something, holding onto high ideal situations, high ideals -- of course spiritually, holding onto higher spiritual truth, that those who have achieved. And often those people who are in this realm of human being have visions of identify themselves with either Christ, or Buddha, Krishna, Muhammad, whoever they are-- historical characters means tremendous to you, because they have achieved it, they have magnetized everything that you can possibly think of. Fame, power -- if they want to become rich they could become so, because they have such tremendous influence over other people. Spiritually, you would like to be one of those situations, competitive attitude towards them, not necessarily become better than them, but [laughter] at least matching. [Laughter] And often people have visions of identifying themselves with great politicians or great statesmen, great poet, great painters, great musicians, whatever have you, great scientist, and so on. [Unknown gesture or incident;  laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=806.0,942.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Such a competitive attitude of human realm is overwhelming. It seems kind of a whole process of approaching from that angle is based on, again, magnetizing altogether. I mean that's why the human realm is based on idea of knowledge and learning, educational collecting wealth of wisdom of all kinds, scientific or philosophical, whatever have you. It's based on intellect, which is-- in the human realm it is the highest point of the six realms of world. It has-- human realm has the greatest potentials, or the qualities of achieving or creating monument of the rest of the six realms of world. [Unknown gesture or incident;  laughter] It is one of the ideal situations of a materialistic society, ambitious society, trying to create the greatest, or the biggest, or the largest, or the longest historical monument. [Laughter] Trying to break records of samsaric speed. [Laughter] Kind of a heroic approach, which is also based on magnetizing. A heroic approach also is based on fascination, because you possess such intellect, intellectual understanding, of meeting with remarkable people. [Unknown gesture or incident;  laughter; pause] Which is largely based on, of course, self-conscious thing, what you don't possess. And when you hear of somebody else possess, when you regard yourself as insignificant, when you hear somebody significant, that impresses us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=942.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that kind of competitive situation of human realm sets the fixed state of human realm based on a continual thought process which will never end, because there's so much stuff goes on in our mind, result of collecting so many things, result of so many plans have been made. So the extreme state of human realm is that you are stuck on absolute traffic jam of discursive thoughts, which is extremely busy, there's no end to it, so one can't really relate with any kind of learning situation or develop a situation of any kind at all. There's constantly all kinds of stuff churns out, all kinds of ideas and plans and hallucinations and dreams churns out constantly, which is quite different from that of realm of god where you are completely absorbed into this blissful state, kind of self-snug situation of satisfaction. In the case of jealous gods, that also that you are also completely drunk on a comparative of extreme case, you are stuck there. It seem to be there's less possibilities of thought process happening, because your experiences are so strong and they overpower you are just hypnotized by that state.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=1170.0,1296.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the case of human realm that there seem to be a much more situation of thought process happening constantly, thinking process takes place, much more active. The intellectual or logical mind becomes overwhelmingly powerful. So one is completely overwhelmed by all kinds of possible if magnetizing new situation, trying to get hold of new situations or new ideas -- along with all kinds of strategies that you might employ, as well as case histories, as well as quotations from the books that we read, and overwhelming incidents that happened in our life. The things been recorded in subconscious begin to play back constantly all the time, much more so than other realms, so it's very intelligent realm, and very, extremely busy, and extremely dissatisfied at the same time. So human realm seem to have less pride than any of the other realms who are-- they find the other realms, if they are stuck in other realms, they begin to find that human-- that their realm is some kind of occupation, that you can hang on to it, begin to get satisfied with it, whereas in the case of human realm there’s no satisfaction. There is constant searching, constant looking for some new situations of improving the given situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=1296.0,1434.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And of course in the human realm also there is the six bardos qualities in it as well. That of fantasy or dreamlike quality, and that of continuously giving birth, and death, and absorption, as well as a gap, that you can experience the clear light. And all the other experience are simultaneously happens, which provides more varieties of speeding, possible way of speeding. It seems that human realm is-- on the other hand, it seem to be rather intelligent situation, but at the same time, it is one of the realms which is the least enjoyable, because suffering is not regarded as occupation in the human realm, but suffering is a way of challenging yourself, so constant reminder of ambitions created from the suffering.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could stop there, have discussions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=1434.0,1523.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Do all the rest of the six states have corresponding buddha families?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We have a…\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What are they?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We will cover [laughter] as we go on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=1523.0,1548.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, what about the extreme version of this? You say that each one of these is-- could be considered a psychotic state. What is the extreme-- I mean, this sounds like a very, sort of normal state in the sense that you’re describing. [Laughter] Is there a more extreme-- you say it’s an extreme version, that are more extreme.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, there’s extreme case is speed, trying to catch your own tail, and you are so fast that you begin to see your own behind. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=1548.0,1590.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, is depression associated with any one of the realms in particular?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How does?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Depression, is that associated with a particular family or realms?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If depression is associated with any realms, it seem to be the human realm particularly. Because, as I've already mentioned, that least satisfied realm is human realm, because intellectually highly strung, you know, and very… everything is regarded as tentative. At the same time there is possibilities of getting something, but one is not quite certain whether one is really getting or not. So there is a continual sense of failure all the time. Seem to be depression is a dominant situation in the human realm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=1590.0,1655.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, while you were talking I was wondering whether [unknown gesture or event;  laughter] there’s any really-- there is anything statistical about this. Whether in mankind in general you find rather more in one particular realm than the others, or whether it’s pretty evenly split up. You know, it-- I think what I’m saying is this human realm that you’re describing one in which more people tend to fall or is it-- would it just be [laughter] [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think you can't make a, you know, percentage, as such. But it seems that human realm is [unknown event or gesture;  laughter] colored by all kinds of other situations, which is the realm of hell, or hungry ghost, or jealous gods. It seems that generally there are more people involved with other six realms than standard human realm, more so. I mean that’s also associated with the cultural situation of the moment, political situation of the moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=1655.0,1750.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: And how about the presentation of ideas, you know? Yours is one particular form of presentation. Do you find that it seems to appeal to one type more than others?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which presentation?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: The presentation of ideas concerning, you know, is this what we really are.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that seem to be also applicable to all of those. I mean people belong to different types of makeup, like they have things we've been talking about, the different buddha natures they possess, and they have their way of viewing the understanding, either in terms of magnetizing or enriching, or whatever have you. So the presentation does not make any differences, but presentation is sort of neutral situation. It's there. And they adopt according to their style. I mean it's like baby eat food, for instance. Some people eat food for taste, some people eat food because they are hungry, some people eat food because they feel it's part of their occupation of escape, whatever have you, all kind of styles. I mean like there may be hundred audience watching cinema, and each person have a different way of-- purpose of regarding this particular movie scene, as a fascination, or entertainment, or expectation, or educational, there all kinds of ways of viewing it. So it’s same thing with any situations. And presenting teaching is also the same time, it's a neutral situation, presenting teaching is very neutral thing, it's where they-- how they take it, how they sense that neutral situation according to their state of being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=1750.0,1895.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, is there one way of sort of getting-- or not getting out of this realm of-- or one problem of this realm is not identifying with yourself? Or not seeing, sort of, external qualities in yourself, or...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One way of getting out of this world?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Well it’s solving some level of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think the attitude is quite applicable to all of those realms is that you should able to see the situations are clearly as they are, without colored by what you want to be see, what you would like to see, what would be helpful for you to see. But just things as they are, directly, simply. And then you begin to lose the-- any kind of ambition that involve with different kind of realms of world. Because each realms have their own style of ambition of all kinds, so stepping out is absence of ambition, not colored by present confusion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=1895.0,1989.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Rinpoche, the other day you characterized the buddha of the asura as having armor and a sword. What would be the character or quality of the buddha of this realm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The human realm is a buddha with a begging bowl. [Laughter; chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, what would be the meaning of that? In order to avoid all possible envy??\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's the mentality of poverty, which is the largest concern of the human realm. That in order to relate with poverty, you have to speak language of poverty. But you being fed all the time as though you have something to put your things into. And in other word it’s the-- ultimate mentality of poverty is the-- also the mentality of richness at the same time. Whenever situations need to be created, you create it and you got it. So you are command of the whole situation, so that's extremely wealthy [INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=1989.0,2071.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, does the buddha family that one has predominantly operated have an affinity to any particular mental aberration of the six realms of existence? Like would the karma people have a greater tendency to psychologically pick up the aberration of the asuras?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Or would padma people more-- be more drawn towards human realm, or?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. I think that’s-- you have your basic character, but at the same time the different experience of different realms are purely instigated from the current situation. You may use the same style that what particular family you belong to, but that style could be put into practice from a different state of being, at the same time, always.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: So would it be possible say for-- you said that the realm of gods is basically buddha realm, is it possible to relate to that from a vajra [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely, yeah. Yeah. Definitely, yeah. There could be quality of ratna and magnetizing as all kinds of other things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=2071.0,2155.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: For a person who-- that has not yet achieved a simple awareness of things as they are, and who has this human quality of intellect, and wants to understand things, for him it takes a certain effort, say just sitting here and listening to you, a certain effort to concentrate, to hear and understand what you’re saying. And that effort seems to be a kind of-- clinging, a kind of magnetism. For such a person, is there something he can do directly in his realm of intellect to improve the situation, or is it only through the whole process of meditation and achieving [INAUDIBLE] that he can do anything?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see, we're looking at, when we talk about improving situation, we are talking about two confusing topics. That we have the just basic idea of improving situations, but we haven't got to the point of the cause and effect of the improvement -- whether that should come from there or here is uncertain. So, in order to really deal with the situations, one have to start methodically, organically. That is to say that whether the situation is a hangup, or the person who is experiencing situation is a hangup, or the style of experiencing situation is a hangup, there-- which is very subtle and very, very delicate.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo it seems that in order to relate with that situation, you have to let first the inhibitions to come through. The hidden qualities, the mask quality, or the ambitious quality have to come through. So whole thing begins with not regarding the apparently hangup-type situations as hangups as such, and let them be as they are, and let further hangups come through. And then that hangup coming through shows us directions, whether those are really coming from here or there becomes quite obvious at some point. So it had to be a very individualistic style, very personal style.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=2155.0,2333.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What is the point or circumstances at which a person in the human realm is going to change into another realm, near the bardo? What builds up to that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Doubt, uncertainty -- which requires a kind of circumstance of double-take. You see one situation, you're just about to get into it, then you have doubt and you look again. So by then you are not speeding at that moment, on the process of your double take. You can't speed anymore because you are stopping, you’re looking back again.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Which way is it more likely to go, if you're-- if you did change from a human?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All of the others, rest of it, doesn’t really--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Not really?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, it could go up and down, wherever, or come back again. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Did you mean without doubt [INAUDIBLE] human realm [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No that’s the spacing we've been talking about, is some of the way of reducing intensity of human realm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: The doubt? [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=2333.0,2426.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Would it be good to try and create the doubt, to be-- to maybe try and do a purposeful double-take in these situations? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so; it wouldn't be honest one then. If you know that you are doing that, therefore you got yourself. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: How about creating doubt in other people and so forth?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there again, it’s the same thing, if anything is deliberate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=2426.0,2465.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Doesn’t meditation sort of create doubt? Isn’t sort of that the-- well, if you can say there’s a purpose to meditation, wouldn’t that be at least one of its outcomes? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Obviously, yeah. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: So-- I mean in a sense the question, you know, the answer could be, you know, to meditate.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not just in order to create doubt. [Laughter] You just meditate, just sake of meditating. You just do it. Then all kinds of disappointment comes out of meditation. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Isn't it true that anybody who goes into meditation goes in it for some purpose? Almost yeah, [INAUDIBLE] that anybody who would want to meditate would want to meditate for a purpose. Are you saying that would be a bad purpose for which people would meditate?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well you start with a purpose, definitely. But once you’re in the meditative state, you don’t have to dwell on purpose at all. you forget about why you're meditating at all. Altogether you are completely involved with the technique or the practice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=2465.0,2559.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: But it sounds like the human realm is only realm that it is possible to enter a meditation state from [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's why it has been said as human realm is the land of karma. Has got that kind of mentality of intelligence which the other realms doesn’t exist, doesn’t possess. Either they are too intelligent, like realm of gods and asura realm, highly strung and completely involved with their own scene. Or else like animal realm and hungry ghost realms, where things are very down, oppressive, and there's no chance of looking at it. So human realm is the kind of, one of the most painful and irritating realms compared with other situations, therefore it has-- it is more fertile situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: And yet [INAUDIBLE] see someone and want to be like them, so you meditate [INAUDIBLE] [laughter] whatever, want to be a buddha [INAUDIBLE] that association [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, for one thing there is physical situation is appropriate for you in the human realm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=2559.0,2632.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Rinpoche, is the doubt that you feel in the human realm the doubt that you can ever achieve your ideal? Is this the doubt that you’re talking about? I’m not sure about the doubt that takes you from out of the human realm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, it's some kind of doubts that, whether your occupation is valid or not, whether this is going to help you or harm you, or who is putting this into practice. I mean, the first doubt is the doubt of the goal or the effort, ambition. One is uncertain whether your ambition is-- ambition to put things into practice is the right one or not. And then, the second doubt also is that doubt with who is actually putting this situation into practice. One is begin to develop a sense of uncertainty of existence of ego or not. That kind of doubt is secondary one, which is a very profound one. Second type of doubt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=2632.0,2709.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: In the classification system we have-- as we travel through the bardos, we established that leaving one and entering another is the spot to leave that game. And on the other level you also said that there's this birth-death-- that continuum. I'm wondering if how-- is-- does that one have spaces in it too, going from a dreaming state to a birth state, or something like that? I mean, I'm wondering how they intersect.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean that’s-- these are the styles of a daily habitual pattern. I mean like in our living situation we sleep, and we get up, and we walk, and we wash, and we eat food. That kind of situation of way of existing in the realms is based on dreamlike quality of birth and death, and gaps of all kinds.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: There are gaps in those too?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, there are gaps in between one occupation, another occupation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: So that from the passage between one and the other there are also, like, points where we can get a flash of the whole situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As long as the-- supposedly, but as long as-- the intensity becomes overwhelming. Intensity becomes overwhelming. And then there is a sense of irritating space, where you feel you have to get to the next one. That could be a possible problem. Otherwise, there are obvious gaps. But those obvious gaps could become irritating, so much so that we have to immediately latch into another gap, another topic, so to speak.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Well that's the problem with all the spaces.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All state, yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=2709.0,2845.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Rinpoche, you said that the other realms happen simultaneously in the human realm. And does that mean that during each moment all the realms are happening at the same time? I mean with emphasis on, say, one realm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it could be said as there are all kinds of ways, either simultaneously or intensified situation of one realm at a time. That depends on how much you collect different means to maintain your ego. I mean, if you have to intensify your jealous, your jealousness, as well as if you have to intensify your grasping at the same time, so you are in both realms of human being as well as realm of jealous gods at the same time. And if you find that is not efficient enough-- sufficient enough, then you pick another realm to have a kind of auxiliary way of maintaining your ego. So, that could also happen. I mean, there is no, really, regulation of any kind, you know a fixed thing -- it could happen all kinds of ways.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Are they present together or consecutively?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=2845.0,2947.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: If a young child-- as his parents fall into a different realm, is he helplessly pulled into the realm, so in a sense he will reflect back to you what realm you as a parent might be in?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Your parents?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Well, a child-- the parents have fallen into a realm, and you are a child, let's say three, or five or six. Would he fall into that realm along with the parents?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It depends on how much the child would have developed a sense of concept, as independent concept. I mean up to that point it is possible that way. I mean including your pet animals, for instance, could be pulled into same scene as well. I mean that's exactly that what happens when you have a national leader who is also in one of the realms, whole nation becomes part of that realm. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: What realm are we in now? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=2947.0,3029.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Do all of the realms develop out of each other and have a common root?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Have what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: A common root. Like, if all the-- do they all develop, kind of evolve out of each other and have one common root?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well one common root is bewilderment of ego, uncertainty. That you feel you are losing ground unless you do something. So the obvious next move is trying to get into one of those realms.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Can you see it in a child? Like, if this human realm developed out of say the animal realm, and you can watch it developing in, say, an infant, in childhood?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: For infant child?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Like in an infant, as he develops into childhood, you know, and ego grows? And is that a kind of development?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, yes, it seems to be largely based on external situations interrelated with the observer to the external situations, and how you put your defense on a situation from your side.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=3029.0,3107.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Rinpoche, you just said that the six realms can contain, you know, all of the bardo state, as well as the gap, will form the possibility of experiencing the clear light. Is that the same as what you mentioned in your last lecture as the dharmadhatu? Is it the same thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, it seems that dharmadhatu seem to be the instigator of all the problems at the same time -- provides basic space for all of those, as well as the enlightened state as well. It’s all-pervading, that's why it is all-pervading.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=3107.0,3147.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Rinpoche, you spoke of this realm as being less inherently prideful than some of the others. But yet it seems to be extremely critical, generally negative, I'm suggesting, toward the majority of say the people around the person in the human realm. Can you explain that pride thing a little further?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Negative?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Yeah. Well you said that someone in the human realm is generally very critical of everyone who doesn't seem to match his style, and all the-- you know, there's a smaller number of say people, who seem extremely attractive, and one would have to magnetize them. But yet you said that that realm was less involved with pride than the others.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, pride in the sense of that you thought you have found a definite occupation. In the case of like realm of gods, you could dwell on your sense of absorption. And in the case of asura, you have a sense of occupation, that you are living your own jealousness. It seems that human realm hasn't found it-- hasn’t found a fixed, definite occupation except trying to magnetize any material that’s available around you. But that is very scattered situation. The situation around you are very unpredictable, they just present themselves and you try to go to get hold of it, but at the same it goes constantly. So your mind is constantly shifted between expectation of future and memories of the past, constantly, which creates the-- sort of a projection situation. So you haven’t found really a definite occupation as such. That is why particularly that human realm has the possibilities of receiving teacher and able to hear the teachings, because you are not fixed on definite, solid ground, and you don’t become deaf and dumb like the other realms would-- could become. It’s in a sense more open situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=3147.0,3347.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Is the clear light state a desirable state to be in, in the human realm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, depends on what we are talking about desirable. I mean it isn't particularly a comfortable situation in the ordinary sense. But it is definitely non-ego state. But clear light experience accompanied with a-- begins with rather, sort of deprivation. You've lost your occupation, and a certain amount of fear begins because you haven't got anybody to hang on to. It's complete all-pervading space, everywhere. Irritating.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: So, that’s how it differs from let’s say the gap, is that it has an irritating quality to it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Right, yes, precisely! The irritating quality of the gap is the clear light state. You've seen, but you are not *in* it properly -- you just perceived a sense of clear light, rather than you are in it. So the sense of clear light is a sense of desolation, of complete open space, you have nothing to hang on to. Therefore automatic reaction is instead of getting into it, you trying to latch onto another thing that you can hang on to, which is one of the realms.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Rinpoche, was the--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=3347.0,3454.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: You said there was choice in the human realm. But in the bardo lecture, seminar, we had a long discussion. You proved that there’s no choice. [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah well, that’s saying the same thing, in a sense, that there is no real choice, but you have to accept the given situation. And if you accept a given situation, then that *could* said as in terms of choice, because you have accepted the choiceless situation of that moment. And you can get on to next situation which is up to you, whether you get into it or not.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: But how’s that particular to the human realm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because human realm has less sense of fixed occupation. It is uncertain, extremely uncertain and filled with all kinds of anxieties, possible failures, or possible all kinds.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=3454.0,3535.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: How would you go from having a sense of clear light to being in...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Clear light?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: If you have, sort of like a sense of the clear light experience, how would you go from that point to dwelling [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That from that experience to..?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: To dwelling in the clear light experience, instead of running away from it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see, that's the thing, you can’t dwell on the clear light. That’s what I mean, losing your handle, something to hang on to. Usually when you try to get into some state, psychological state of something, you could dwell on it, you could keep up to it. But in terms of clear light experience, there is nothing to dwell on it, which is extremely, sort of foreign to idea of ego. I mean whole idea is if one would like to get into that state one have to give up all kind-- all the hope of getting somewhere or attaining something. Give up all kinds of hopes or fears of all kinds.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Well then if you got to the point where you gave up all hope of getting away from the sense of clear light, that’d be the same thing as giving up [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That’s why that clear light becomes part of you. 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You see there is a meditative experience, which is-- which could be said is a glimpse of clear light, which also does not have an aim, object, or goal, because you become part of the clear light. But that does not become permanent experience with the bodhisattvas. Bodhisattvas occasionally flash back to clear light, constantly, and still they have to occupy themselves with something.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: So the clear light is one aspect of a bodhisattva's being.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, and there is different intensity of a bodhisattva's advanced experience, up to the tenth state of a bodhisattva. That clear light experience become more frequent, until you reach the tenth. In the beginning it's less frequent.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: And the tenth, is the clear light experience--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is described in the books as being like visions seen in the full moon light, not as clear as the sunlight, as Buddha, but sort of relatively clear. 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But there’s some spaces that we can step out through. I don’t know if *we* come out through it. But once we step out, and we accept all possibilities, then we can become bodhisattvas. Now, what-- from what you just said, I understand that once we step-- once we get out of this map, once we enter into another plane, we find that that plane is also limited, can be described, that there is an evolution through it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which is a bodhisattva experience, do you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Yeah, that’s what I'm talking. It’s-- is that incorrect or...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there is constant discoveries. And those discoveries and experience you can explain or describe in great detail, because you are still talking about it from the point of view of observer. Like sudden glimpse of clear light experience for instance could be described, because you’ve experienced clear light before you become part of it completely. Functional state you maybe become part of it, but then you come out of it. When you come out of it, or when you just about to enter into it, you are still speaking in terms of watcher, or in terms of somebody else’s experience of becoming one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: So, where in that does-- I mean, it was a surprise when I found that the realm of the gods wasn't where salvation was. [Laughter] Where does salvation come in? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you could talk about salvation, it seems that when there's no direction, that’s the end of ambition, which is that when you become completely one with the knowledge. One with wisdom, whatever it's called, buddhahood or awakened state of mind, whatever it's called. That you realize that you never have needed to made a journey at all, because the journey is there already and the goal is there already. It's not so much of you're gaining something. It's not so much that you are achieving liberation. But it's more of that you realize liberation is there and that you needn't have sought for it. Which is the precise definition of \"jnana\" in Sanskrit word, or \"wisdom\", which means \"complete oneness with your experience.\" You don't really need experienc*er* as such, at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026#t=4149.0,4395.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138138/file/256026/transcript/72379/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We might have to stop at that point. Something happens at seven o’clock here, right?\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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