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By stepping out of self-deception and giving up the company of your shadow, the watcher, there is willingness to be a lonely person. That solitude is a spiritual companion and ultimate freedom, the marriage of compassion and shunyata. The perception of aloneness as wisdom and skillful means leads to knowing how to deal with your daily living situation. Talk took place on Alan Watts' houseboat during the \"Dawn of Tantra\" seminar. Published in THE MYTH OF FREEDOM.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Myth of Freedom","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 03"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: THE MYTH OF FREEDOM: Part 8: Tantra: Aloneness\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-myth-of-freedom-and-the-way-of-meditation-1073.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 3 (in contained book MYTH OF FREEDOM)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-384.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eJun 22 2024 to Feb 19 2026 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: JP Glutting Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Blaire Martin, Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1972"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eGround, path, and fruition of tantric path as organic process of growth: acknowledging the ground as it is, the chaos of the path, and the continuity of fruition. By stepping out of self-deception and giving up the company of your shadow, the watcher, there is willingness to be a lonely person. That solitude is a spiritual companion and ultimate freedom, the marriage of compassion and shunyata. The perception of aloneness as wisdom and skillful means leads to knowing how to deal with your daily living situation. Talk took place on Alan Watts' houseboat during the \"Dawn of Tantra\" seminar. Published in THE MYTH OF FREEDOM.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, single talk entitled Tantra, given on Alan Watts' houseboat in Sausalito, California, on February 12th, 1972.\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is a CTI custom remaster made July 2024.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=0.0,21.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --Professor Guenther on tantra. So in some sense same kind of mood continues, this time goes, that we're talking about the basic meaning of tantra and its applications in connection with life and so on. And the basic principle of living situation goes that... [Unknown incident] [Laughter; chatter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=21.0,92.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We were also talking about the continuity, which is a fundamental principle of tantra. There seem to be very important message in this, that sense of continuity in the living situation, particularly that we are working with a spiritual quest of some kind -- or rather that we have to work in the basic trend of continuity. That starting point of our whole being is not rejected, the process of continuing from the starting point is not rejected, and so therefore the continuity is also part of the creative process. Which leads to the idea of generosity, or sense of richness rather than poverty. That we do have a basic potential in all of us to look into something. It seems otherwise that we wouldn't be here at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=92.0,207.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That there is some sense of \"lost\" in other word, or some sense of possibilities of something -- which is to say, according to Buddhism, \"duhkha is suffering\" is a question. And the suffering is truth. Suffering is also intelligent. Our discovering suffering is discovering of wisdom. So from that point of view, the life situation, if you see it from the spiritual point of view, is extremely healthy and positive and beautiful situation. Not because we have attained pleasurable situations out of it, spiritual quest. In fact the opposite, that--\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] [Laughter; chatter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=207.0,329.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Search is not all that fun, actually. Or particularly search in terms of spiritual practice is not fun. [Laughter] Better not to begin. If you must, you must accomplish. Because if you begin then we have-- we leave unfinished business behind us if you decide to quit, which begin to haunt us all the time, constantly, because we have left unfinished business. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=329.0,393.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In a sense that getting onto the path, as Suzuki Roshi mentioned in his book, is getting in to railroad -- that you can't get off the railroad, that you go on and on and on, constantly. And also from the mahayana scriptures it mentions that the bodhisattva's vow of acceptance of the path is a contagious one. That it is planting tree that you can't stop growing -- it constantly grows, even if you decide to cut off the branches, still grows cons-- on and on and on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=393.0,459.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So stepping on the path seem to be continuous, because of this continuity of perpetual growth. Which also brings tremendous pain and misery in some sense, that because sometimes we want to step out of it, that we don't really want to get into at all. It's too close to the heart, we can't trust in the heart. It becomes pene-- too penetrating, too naked, too obvious. That seem to be the basic idea of inspiration through the pain. Students who stepped on the path continuously experience our inspiration, all kinds of setbacks. But these kind-- all kinds of setbacks could be said as part of its creative process, constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=459.0,546.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the continuity concept in tantra starts from the beginning, as what's called the ground tantra, and the path tantra, and the fruition tantra. The ground tantra is that acknowledging potential that does exist within your makeup altogether, that you are part of the buddha nature, and you are part of the energy that does exist. Otherwise you wouldn't come across with such situation at all. The situation that you come across with as such possible learning qualities is purely by chance. But it's just apparently by chance. That we are looking for possible operation without using anesthetics. That the constantly unfolding, unmasking, and the constant opening, on and on and on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=546.0,634.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This somehow requires a certain amount of bravery, that you're willing to be a lonely person, a desolate person. That you're willing to give up company of your shadow. That you're willing to give your twenty-four-hours commentator which follows you constantly, which is what's called the watcher. In the Tibetan tradition it's called \"dzinpa\" which means \"fixation\" or \"holding.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=634.0,686.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But then we have nothing left, if we decide to let loose that last hope that we have to fix on something, hold on something. We have nothing left to survive for, nothing left to continue it for. That's very big step towards asceticism, and discipline continues from that level. That \"Am I this, am I that? Am I doing right? Am I meditating? Am I studying? Am I getting somewhere?\" If you have to give up that questioner, or the answers, say, \"Okay, you are doing well.\" Or, \"You are not doing well at all, you should get better.\" If you give up that discursive mind, then we have nothing left.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=686.0,747.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the question arises that how can then we know that we are advancing in spiritual practice? That's very interesting point actually. [Laughter] That we do not know how we are advancing spiritual practice, to the extent quite possibly that there is no such thing as spiritual practice at all -- except stepping out of the self-deception, which we long struggled in trying get hold of it, and just giving that up. Other than that there is no such thing as spirituality [rolling the \"r\" in spirituality] as such at all. [Laughter] Very desolate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=747.0,810.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But at the same time great sages like Milarepa described the beauty of solitude: \"How beautiful my cave is, that there is a snow peak cap with the scarf of clouds wrapped around it, sun and moon shines behind the shoulder. Underneath that there is an alpine tree growing, monkeys playing about with it. Underneath there is a waterfall, salmon is leaping up and down. Underneath that there is the meadow, where the wild ass and musk deer taking care of its young and playing about.\" But from our way of looking at, these beauty may-- does exist if we are occasional tourist who takes photographs of them, or if you're a mountain climber with a certain particular project to win your contest, to climb up in the highest mountains. But apart from that, do you want really live in those desolate places? Not fun at all. It's terrifying, it's terrible. They don't present any kind of beauty or delight situation of any kind at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=810.0,921.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's very interesting point, in that situation, that lots of hermits expressed the desolate situation as being tremendous marriage, and desolate situation their practice is taking place is their first honeymoon period. That \"At last I've managed to married myself to the desolate situations or the aloneness. And this aloneness is-- keeps on and on accompanying me all the time. This aloneness is part of my makeup, aloneness act as my companion, my spiritual consort.\" There's something extraordinary about that situation. That when we begin to see the needlessness of the physical entertainer or psychological entertainer, but when we begin to accept that basic qualities of aloneness actually can entertain us, become out of-- part of our companionship, is extraordinary. At last that we cannot lose aloneness at all. Wherever we go that we are alone, whatever we do we are alone. Whether we relate socially with amongst our friends or whether we meditate alone, whether we perform ceremonies together or meditate together, aloneness is there all the time constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=921.0,1035.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that is the example of freedom, actual ultimate freedom, fundamental freedom. That aloneness could keep company. And that aloneness is described as the marriage of wisdom and shunyata, marriage of compassion and shunyata principle. The desolate situation of needlessness of a dualistic occupation, which acts as aloneness. And your perception of aloneness as wisdom, or your perception of aloneness as skillful means, that you know how to deal with the living situations. And such discovery leads beyond the need of ego. Or in other word you could say that such discovery creates the possibilities of cutting off the karmic chain reactions to recreate ego situations. Because that aloneness or the space of desolation, that particular situation which doesn't entertain you or doesn't feed you anymore, ultimate asceticism, is part of your basic makeup. Having realized that, that's part of… ultimate discovery, in the sense of… willing to accept the basic samsaric occupation. And from that point of view, giving up the basic samsaric occupation is the discovery. And searching for nirvana becomes redundant from that point of view, because sam-- discovery of samsaric's game as occupation is what is called the absence of a dualistic game, which is nirvana, automatically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=1035.0,1242.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's another point related with that, is that if there is a sense of need of occupation, requirements of some occupation within solitary situation, that is the appreciation of, or the understanding of the colorful mandala perspective of life as it is -- color, temperature, or texture, what have you. Which can only come through a certain basic discipline of closely working with a competent teacher, until to the point that competent teacher becomes a part of your mirror reflection, checking-up situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=1242.0,1331.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If your student experience in that-- experience of meditation, that they feel they are reduced into a speck of dust, they begun to experience they don't have a body at all, they experience complete into nothingness. And then student comes to teacher and relate that to their teacher. Then the teacher would say, \"However, I still see you as a person, I don't see you as a speck of dust anymore, at all.\" And if student comes to the teacher and says, \"I feel that I don't have a head, I feel my head is dissolved, I have no body at all,\" still teacher would say, \"I see you have head.\" And teacher seem to relate that situation as a mirrorlike reflection. And somehow that that kind of personal relationship seems to need it, terms of relating personally, individually, working with the basic makeup of one's whole being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=1331.0,1424.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So on the whole, that continuity in terms of tantra principle is concerned that there is continuity of acceptance of the beginning, of your basic qualities, and continuity of your path -- which could be hot and cold, or whatever have you, creative or negative -- and the continuity experience of the fruition. That you come to some conclusions, but these conclusions are not just sudden magical discoveries or result of certain application of gimmicks of any kind at all, but it is part of your makeup. So that whole process of spiritual path from the Buddhist point of view seem to be the organic process of natural growth: acknowledging the ground as it is; acknowledging the chaos of the path; acknowledging the continuity of the fruition, or the continuity or the colorful aspect of the fruition that does exist. And whole process seem to relate with an endless odyssey. Having attained realization, one doesn't stop at that point, but one still continuously make further odyssey of what's known as buddha activity.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you like we could have discussions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=1424.0,1541.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Please help yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nI must ask then the first question. I have been completely wrapped up in what you're saying. And I get finally down to the question: What on earth are you trying to do? You know, it's all right, but what you are talking about? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Does that need answer? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Now you see, if I can throw it to him that way, and he answers it like that, that's why, now, I asked him to come here. [Laughter] [Unknown gesture or incident; laughter] All the way from Tibet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=1541.0,1648.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, is there like a different text for the tantra than the Buddhist scriptures? Is that [INAUDIBLE]? No, is there a different text for the tantra?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Different tantra? You mean from other traditions, apart from this one, or… ?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: No, is it on-- are the tantra texts different than the Buddhist scripture?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well \"tantra\" is another term from the scriptures, as far as Buddhism is concerned. There are three types of scriptures that involve with the study of Buddhism. And one is what's called a \"shastra\" -- shastra, which is reflections on the scriptures, that certain teachers have created; commentaries, in other word, from their own personal experiences. And the other one is what's called \"sutra,\" which is experience of bringing together certain scattered mind of people into one-pointedness, and could be said as confluence or the junction. That people have heard all kind of truths here and there, ideas here and there, but they haven't managed to put them into-- categorized, and they haven't able to put them into organic situations together. So mention of the two mind or the bringing together, which is the sutra junction.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd then we have the tantra which is the other part of the scripture, the text. Which means, having discovered the junction then you go along with the river; having discovered already the confluence of the river, then you go along with it. And usually the meaning of \"junction\" in sutra is concerned is it's the application and the contemplative practice are brought together in terms of sutra. It's manual practice of what you should be doing if you have a confluence of mind and body; how to bring together, in terms of orthodox situations or systematic situations. And tantra is continuity of that. Like you have a big river, that rivers eventually go to-- flows to the ocean. So tantra is like the ocean, that river is still continuous within this flow of continuity. That river continues-- in other word the sutra continues within tantra. And then these are the three types of teachings or the scriptures that involved with the basic Buddhist texts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=1648.0,1857.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: And is vipashyana within tantra?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Vipashyana is basically sutra teaching. And there is what's known as the satipatthana method of development of mindfulness, development of recollection. And that particular practice is divided into two sections. One is the preliminary practice, which is the shamatha practice of primitive meditation, you might say. And the other one is the advanced meditation which is vipashyana, which included in the sutra teaching. Because you see, the point of vipashyana is also-- the aim of vipashyana is bringing together the conflict of body and mind, which both-- mind has its own concept of preconception, and the body has also its preconceptions. And it is trying to bring that situation together in one point, in terms of one person's daily practice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=1857.0,1939.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Well how would you compare vipashyana technically with the Tibetan dzokchen -- is it really the same sort of thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you have vipashyana as purely development of expansive awareness. And then you have what's called mahavipashyana, which is greater awareness, which does not even require awareness at all. And then you have the mahamudra practice, which is developing greater awareness, you begin to develop also the sense of beauty, sense of understanding of the colorful aspect, or the mandala perspective of your life. And then in the dzokchen situation it is like the greater vipashyana that we described it before. It's that you don't have to even have the appreciation of the colorful spectrum of the mandala, but it is already accepted it is so, therefore so what? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=1939.0,2013.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Was the mahamudra an original Indian text or was it-- is it a Tibetan text?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mahamudra is largely what Professor Guenther is working on, the life of Naropa, which contains mahamudra; and Song of Sahara is mahamudra teaching. And mahamudra teaching is what you might call it the secondary development of tantric tradition. Not the absolute peak but it's the secondary. The-- all the tantric meditations involved with mahamudra and maha ati, which is also called dzokchen in Tibetan. Mahamudra is the complete comprehension of the mandala aspect and its symbolism. \"Maha\" means \"great\" and \"mudra\" means \"symbol\" -- great symbolism, greater. So it cease to become symbol as analogy, but it is in *itself* a symbol, because analogy is also part of the practice as well at the same time, part of the understanding at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=2013.0,2096.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: You mentioned shunyata, and then you were talking about organic growth. And I would like to see how you relate shunyata and organic growth. Seems like two levels.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why do you think so?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Why do I think so?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well it seems to me like shunyata is the one with no part, and whatever can grow organically is one with part.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Parts?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Meaning...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: A plant has a root, and a stem, and a flower--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I see, yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: --and a seed.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --yeah. Well, that's interesting question. The organic growth that we are talking about is related with the more of the-- from the point of view of student rather than actual experience itself. In other word, you could say that a flower does not need root because it is beautiful in itself, which is, let's say, shunyata experience. Like the flower, beautiful flower, there are beautiful colors and everything. But on the other hand you might say that's a bit too romantic perception, that flower does need water, you can't just pick a flower and keep it forever. It needs its circulation of something, to understand the ecology of flower. So in order to relate with shunyata, you have to have a case history, so to speak, to understand where the shunyata came from, how shunyata should be cultivated. It's complementary from that sense. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=2096.0,2260.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: You compared a river for the continuity of everything. So I would like to know if-- is it the only way the Buddhists look at it, or is there any other religious people look at it the same way, the river [INAUDIBLE]? As for its... everybody refers to goes to the ocean, and do you consider the ocean as the state of nothingness or the nirvana, as Buddhists call it? And your way is only for a particular bridge, likely from the ocean to the particular point, and in the branch where the creek comes and joins the river, can it be like any other religion, it plays an important part?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You could say that there is all kinds of way of experiencing-- expressing an elephant. Some people might begin by experimenting elephant by its trunk, its legs, its tail, its ears. But if they explore the elephant properly everybody will simultaneously agree that elephant does not purely consist of legs or the tail or the ears. Elephant is a solid animal with four leg and a trunk and ears, and a tail as well at same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I heard the story, is a bit of a--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I know, everybody heard of that, yeah. [Laughter] I’m trying to remind you again. [Laughter] Much more familiar analogy. In other word, that when you begin to realize-- when you begin to talk about elephant is just like a trunk, or elephant just like a thread, elephant just like-- [laughter] leaves, that we are dwelling on the concepts of \"my discovery of that elephant is true.\" But finally everybody had to give up their doctrine, their dogma, com-- in order to bring a complete aspect of the elephant.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yes, but the part of the story I heard there were four blind persons, and there was one guy who can see the elephant. So there were-- he was just watching the four blind persons, how they are describing the elephant. One person took the trunk, the other one took the tail, then the other two explore on the legs. They both came up with different answers. He said, “No, the elephant--” the person who can see, he told them, \"What you are feeling is an elephant.\" So one person said, \"Yes, but it's so small like.\" You know because he touched the tail. The other one, he touched the trunk, he said [INAUDIBLE] [laughter]. I just want to know who is the person who can see it? [Laughter; applause]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see, that's the precisely the point, you don't have to have the watcher. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The four blind men could see the complete elephant if they begin to give up their doctrine. You don't have to have a third person to watch you or commentate you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Who said they were blind in the first place?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because they're purely involved with their physical sensations and they refused to use their vision.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But-- [laughter] My question is, how am I-- suppose I am the person who I can see this elephant.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Suppose if I am the person I could see the elephant, as far as for me there's a trunk and everything. But if he is a blind person, he's feeling it. And I have to speak in same language to him and show him what an elephant is because he cannot see at all, completely, I know, as far as my [INAUDIBLE]. I suspect [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there is no one apart from the blind people, as far as exploring elephant concerned at that point.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS : [Laughing] Yeah, that's right.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I feel that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nobody is authority there -- except elephant and you. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But you're comparing the elephant [INAUDIBLE], but I'm just saying...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, blind people could explore the whole aspect of elephant--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: They can have--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --and they compare notes with each other, of each other blinds. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: It's something like... [laughter] If there was a blind person was carrying a lamp, [laughter] [INAUDIBLE] there are some people who could see, and they looked at this lamp and they were laughing and they said, \"You're a person who can't see anything, what are you carrying a lamp for in the dark?\" He said, \"You idiots, I'm just carrying this lamp because all of you could see me coming and you don't have to talk to me.\" [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=2260.0,2708.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: If I understood your comment on the relationship between suffering and growth, or moving along the path, what stance can one take towards suffering, as suffering peels one layer away and then another layer and another layer? Passive? Compassion? Distance? Does that make myself clear in the question?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Passive?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: What stance can one, should one, take toward the suffering?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see it's not so much of strategy. I mean there is possibility that having been told that suffering is very fertile ground, that you should work on it. And quite easily one can take the attitude of-- anthropological attitude to the suffering as beautiful or intriguing animal in a zoo and trying to play with that suffering. But it's not so much of that suffering is part of you. Suffering is it is. One doesn't try to create a policy to deal with the suffering as such. If you're trying to set up policy to deal with suffering, then you already putting your own concept or your own style to it, so you cease to relate with suffering as its innate nature as simply as it is. So the basic point is that suffering is naked -- sharp, naked form, bush with thorn. And you are also naked without any padding between you and suffering. And one is relating with suffering directly, without any premeditated attitude of any kind. So suffering becomes then direct experience, or penetrating experience. So suffering becomes then something real. It becomes absolute truth as well as yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Growth then will always result?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. So suffering-- discovering suffering is one of the foremost way of relating with or discovering the absolute truth, the naked truth, as they talk about.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Yes, what could be more energetic than suffering?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=2708.0,2959.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I still experience a kind of shyness, that I-- about not being completely into my suffering, but kind of deceiving myself that I'm-- I have a kind of relationship with it. But I'm not really-- I don't really sort of throw my nakedness on the bush. I sort of find myself rubbing against it, but not really just open up completely to it. A shyness, kind of, about that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That situation seem to be just like… playing with suffering rather than suffering let it get into your system, in order to experience actual suffering as it is.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah, I won't let it circulate around inside of me, sort of, that's...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, regard-- relating suffering as a still, beautiful rosebush, and not getting into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=2959.0,3069.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What controls the depth of suffering? I mean it almost sounds like a thing to be cultivated or something like that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Depth of suffering. I suppose you could say that it is based on evaluation. That suffering as a result of your sin is bad, that suffering as the result of your austerity and spiritual practice is good, or whatever have you. You're interpreting the rosebush.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Is there a difference between \"duhkha\" and \"ananda\" then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Duhkha?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: And ananda. I mean, you're saying that they're polarized-- 5\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that they both are rosebushes.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well, if all that you are saying that it is [INAUDIBLE]. You know when a seed bursts? [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well from the Buddhist way of looking at the both pain and pleasure are regarded as a nuisance. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=3069.0,3197.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche, you've given us so much abundance that it-- all these excellent sentences, and it's difficult to pull one out. You're saying that continuity is karma, isn't that what you're saying?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Continuity is karma of...? [Laughter] The \"continuity\" is very difficult word actually to work with it, because you have all kinds of continuities, you see, from that point of view. That you have the continuity and you have the discontinuity, also continuous. So the sense of impermanence is all-pervading as well at the same time. [Laughter] So, in the some sense the continuity is karma, and discontinuity of that continuity is cutting off chain reactions of karma and the wheel of life principle of twelve symbols. That you have-- you begin with a blind grandmother, you end with a corpse, but at the same time the blind grandmother also gives birth to corpse. And it goes on continuously. And discontinuity is also the experience of awake state as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo in other word, when we talk about reincarnation and other subject involved around that situation, that we are referring that you can stop the chain reaction of continuity by coming to conclusion or understanding of that you don't have to give next birth in order to continue, in order to maintain as yourself. But then, not maintaining yourself also becomes continuity, which is the tantric situation of eternal energy. The energy that talks in tantric tradition is the continuity of the discontinuity. That is why the experience of enlightenment is regarded as everlasting. But because it doesn't ever last, because it is discontinuing, therefore it is there all the time. It provides as lubrication rather than solid system.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=3197.0,3402.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Rinpoche, you mentioned Naropa, and I find him especially interesting because he was a scholar for so long and then he had this vision of a woman with the thirty-seven ugly marks. And I feel like that's about the place where I've gotten to, and having just finished my twelve years of school. And I wish you would say a little something about that vision. That Guenther, he related that he, in being a scholar, had to ignore his feelings, and that was why he had the vision of a woman with thirty-seven ugly marks. [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's-- having accomplished everything intellectually -- both from philosophical understanding as well as scientific understanding which had developed in the Indian tradition of [UNCLEAR: Nalanda?] -- you receive your final degree, so to speak, by not only understanding of the philosophy but understanding of the language, epistemology, and art and other things. And then there is something else comes, which is beyond any possible imagination as far as scholar is concerned, who reached the highest degree of understanding of every-- that you can learn. Which is simply the scholar ignore the relationship to the sense to the words. Do you remember it mentions in the book that whether-- \"Did you know-- do you know the sense or do you know the words?\" And when he says, \"I know the words\" then old woman extremely excited and happy about it. When he says, \"I know the words [sic: sense]\" then old woman was extremely upset. So it's-- the final quality of scholarship is the understanding of the sense or the words. That seem to be one of the crux of the matter, fundamental situation there.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat in order to know the sense as well as the word completely, or sense according to the word or word according to the sense, know completely, you have to have some experience of duhkha, suffering. And that seem to be the point where Naropa had to go through whole process of searching for Tilopa, and on the process of searching for him that he had to go through all kinds of painful situations, like experiencing the physical pain, psychological pain, and all kinds of tortures. Even after that, having met Tilopa, then he also have to go through the process of torturing, in purely in order to relate with the sense and word together. It's a question of there's tremendous gap between the analytical mind, which seems to see things as appropriate, logical. But that appropriateness and logicalness doesn't mean to say you actually sense the sense. You're quite away from it. If you sense the *meaning* of the words, you don't look for logic anymore, which is the experience of prajna. Prajna is the particular state of understanding where you begin to lose the dualistic division between sense and words, that word are also sense and sense also word -- it's all same thing. It's a very direct situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut then \"jnana\" on the other hand is quite different from that. We were talking about that today actually, our-- in the seminar. And jnana has nothing to do with educational or collecting understanding of anything at all, even transcends beyond idea of words and sense at all altogether. That it is complete absorption into what you have learned. So even you forget what you've learned, that you learned-- what you've learned is part of your whole being. So it is absorbed into your basic whole being. So you have no conflict of collecting informations, or you have no conflict in sense of grasping on the particular ideas or topics of anything at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=3402.0,3779.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Rinpoche, you mentioned about, in terms of the stages of the path, the importance of finding a qualified teacher. Could you describe the-- what those qualifications are? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose at that point we could discuss differences between a competent charlatan [laughter] and a competent teacher. In terms of a charlatan, that such teacher relate with the student as part of his kingdom, so to speak; flock, prey, what have you. But still charlatan is extremely inspired by the teaching, because charlatan feels that he could have a successful occupation of his life by purely relying on that kind of self-deception. [Laughter] And usually the quality of charlatans have the sense of doesn't want to extend his territory. In other words students doesn't want to venture out from the critical aspect of the teaching, doesn't want to be criticized of the teaching, but purely want to accept it as law and order, as a command.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn terms of the spiritual teacher, allows students to venture about, work with one's own self-deception, and one's own doubts, negativities, as part of his learning process. So you develop sufficient critical attitude towards the teaching as well as teacher and work one's way through, deal with negativities as well as positivities, what have you. So that from that point of view, the charlatans have to keep his territory because he doesn't want to come across with any upmanship of any kind among-- as far as exposing if there's intelligent students there, or critical-minded or intelligent ones. So, constantly trying to repress the intelligence of the students or the energy of the students.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn the case of true guru that there is a continual encouragement to develop the intelligent student because the teacher has nothing to lose actually. Teacher is just there and as landmark. And if the students could venture about and begin to work with his own living situation, it becomes part of the teaching. So teacher has nothing to lose -- even the students decide to go away from the teacher, that the presence of the teaching continues with student, constantly. And so in other word, the-- what charlatan is trying to achieve is achieved by the true teacher. But at the same time the creative situation of developing student's basic intelligence are much higher and much greater. And there is a saying in Tibet which says that one of the symbol of a good kalpa, or golden age, is plenty of teachers and plenty of charlatans. That even charlatans are inspired to be charlatans rather than bank robbers or what have you. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Rinpoche?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=3779.0,4117.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92452/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING AND THANK YOU]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Might have to stop at this point.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Yes, would you like to? This is enough now. No, this is enough. The next--\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: I don't know, am I-- I haven't had too much to drink, I haven't turned on with any kind of drug for quite some time, or anything like that, but I feel curiously something or other! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Yes. Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Do you? Or is-- or am I drunk in my head? Thank you very much, Rinpoche bodhisattva. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Okay. Are you serving coffee? [INAUDIBLE] Please, refresh yourselves. [Party chatter] [Bell rings] [Party chatter continues]\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: All right, now, have you got a level? You okay? You tell me when. What-- at what channel? Oh, there was an old man of Vienna who lived upon tincture of senna. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nAll right. All set?\r\n\r\n\r\n[drawing out the syllables] OM. OM. OM.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat's all you deserved. You got three OMs out of me. [Laughs] That's a lot of resistance. [Laughs] [Party chatter continues]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989#t=4117.0,4773.43306"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92453","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720212VCTR5-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168768/file/306989/transcript/92453/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa 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