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Physical as relating to hinayana: we think we and external world are solid, but begin to see, through meditation, actual transitoriness. Psychological as thoughts, external experiences as constantly in flux. Gives analogy of a table, which we come to see as not solid. Seeing things as impermanent opens to experience of vipashyana, greater awareness -- of mind and external world as not separate, and both changing. Allows for letting go, dismantling of ego. Next is level of energy, environment of energy that exists that allows impermanence to occur. Accommodates everything, from depression to inspiration. Experience of death as not final, but ongoing experience of nowness. Expands on these ideas in an in-depth and thoughtful Q\u0026amp;A.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eJan 02 2020 to Apr 26 2020 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Leandra Ziegler Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Terminology Review: Matilda Perks Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA talk about the \"three levels\" of impermanence -- physical, psychological, and energy -- that define the experience of death and birth. Physical as relating to hinayana: we think we and external world are solid, but begin to see, through meditation, actual transitoriness. Psychological as thoughts, external experiences as constantly in flux. Gives analogy of a table, which we come to see as not solid. Seeing things as impermanent opens to experience of vipashyana, greater awareness -- of mind and external world as not separate, and both changing. Allows for letting go, dismantling of ego. Next is level of energy, environment of energy that exists that allows impermanence to occur. Accommodates everything, from depression to inspiration. Experience of death as not final, but ongoing experience of nowness. Expands on these ideas in an in-depth and thoughtful Q\u0026amp;A.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260407-876-tmwhtl.mpga"]},"duration":3511.2751,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/307/367/original/open-uri20260407-876-tmwhtl.mpga?1775598436","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3511.2751,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730324VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19730324VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - The Meaning of Death - Talk 2]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled The Meaning of Death held at Tail of the Tiger, Vermont. This is talk number two, March 24th, 1973. This is an ARP digital remaster made December 2006.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: The following is Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, at a seminar on The Meaning of Death, given at Tail of the Tiger in March 1973. This is lecture two, March 24th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=0.0,38.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What we have discussed yesterday in connection with impermanence, or death. There are difference way of looking at the structure of death, or impermanence. That there is the basic examination in the physical level, in connection with the death; and basic examination in the psychological level, connection with the death; and basic examination in a energy level, in connection with the death.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=38.0,108.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, to begin with the basic examination of the physical death is that of hinayana approach. That you relate with physical world as if it is a permanent one. That includes both time as well as the entities. That we relate to time as eternal and we relate to objects as if it's permanent one. And there is a sense of vagueness, a sense of a pure hypothesis rather than basic awareness that can examine the natures of things and time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=108.0,211.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the hinayana method of shamatha meditation practice, which is developing absolute accurate and precise way of seeing things as they are, the practitioner shouldn't-- would sit quietly and meditate on the simple events that takes place such as like the sensations of the body, or the movement of breathing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=211.0,268.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So this practice of meditation is therefore a way of seeing the precisions of things in a very direct way. And meditator would not occupy his mind with any area which is purely imaginary realm at all. That simply relate with the body, and simply relate with the breath, and simply relate with the environment. Which is a trans-- which is a way of overcoming the unnecessary-- or seeing through the unnecessary chatter of mind, of which seem to present a problem of experiencing the precision of reality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=268.0,351.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And state of meditation practice from that point of view is just *being*, rather than *controlled* being. The discipline is a spontaneous one. When you think, you think. And when you breathe, you breathe. When you're restless, you're restless. Very simple, direct approach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=351.0,395.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which tend to bring a new dimension of awareness of impermanence. That the-- for instance the meditator would find that the table front of him is not a solid entity. It's neither solid entity nor it is transparent. But there is some-- one begin to develop the table is a collection of numerous items, molecules, which are constantly dying and being born. So that it's not quite same as a scientific discovery as a result of working in the laboratory, but it's mental precision; you begin to see the solidness doesn't stand as solid. You could hold it, handle it, work with it, but still it's impermanent. The object is consist of influx of matters related with each other, mingled in with each other. And being born and being died. And seemingly look very peaceful scene, if you saw a table in the middle of room. There nothing else. Seemingly peaceful, and harmonious, and eternal somewhat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=395.0,548.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But in actual fact that any existence, any object, or any situations which are result of birth, caused by birth is going through a constant change. Constant change, constant death, and constant birth. Not only that but the times in those situations, the observing situation, when you observe you think the objects are-- you begin to see the objects are influx of impermanence, but at the same time, even the death and birth itself is self-perpetually being born and died. So in other word we can't fixed on the solidness of the death as being real either.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=548.0,624.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then we change our attitude beyond, and that is the psychological impermanence, which is quite different from that of the physical impermanence we discussed. Which will be still result of shamatha practice of meditation. When we perceive those impermanence that happens, those constant change that takes place, in the realm of matter and space, we are still a viewant [sic], looking at them. And we see the-- we watch the course of history, the changing takes place, as if we are watching a cinema show. The change takes place on the screen but we come in and sit until the whole thing finished. So, still there seem to be some holes in that such discovery of impermanence and the purely physical and time plane-- plan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=624.0,718.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The psychological change is also important as well, so instead of just purely viewing it, if one turn the whole logic backward, the table is viewing us. That us changing. So, from that point of view, table may be a continuity, but you are changing. You become discontinuity. [Laughs] But in actual fact neither of the-- that table or the watcher of the table are particularly continuous, or the one is solid and one other is continuous at all. If it is that, if it is the case, then we can't perceive table, if we are permanent and the table is changing or table is permanent we are changing. There will be no way of making relationships at all. It will be new, completely new dimension. So the reason why we are able to perceive our projections, our being of that same nature made out of same stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=718.0,806.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, we begin to find our thought process, mental process, to watch and observe the change, observing mind is also in a state of constant death. Which is a result of further awareness that developed in the sitting practice of meditation. The development of meditation called \"vipashyana\", which is development of panoramic awareness. Which includes the meditation and the meditator as being one unit. And the object and the watcher of the object being one unit. So there's a general sense of awareness that all these influx takes place together. The mutual birth and mutual death, projections and the projector, work together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=806.0,879.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in other word, our development awareness that takes place in a-- great awareness that take place in vipashyana practice, is to perceive the fickleness, so that you have nothing to hang onto. The meditation practice to realize letting go. Or we could use another term: meditation practice is a way of unmasking the ego, or whatever you like to call it, or stripping out the layers, layers of skandhas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=879.0,927.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But in actual fact there is no manufacturing skill, no creations happening at all. It's the-- awareness is seem to have several categories of the object of being aware of something, and the person who's being aware, and the awareness is being nursed. Seemingly there seem to be different categories of those things. But in actual fact they're all one. So in other word, complete awareness-- awareness can only develop when there's a sense of impermanence, sense of transitoriness has developed. Until that there is no real awareness that we can develop. Would be still in the realm of mental image, and we are thinking that we're being aware, rather than we actually develop absolute awareness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=927.0,991.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Awareness have to take place in a no man's land. If there's a subject and object of awareness, then it becomes watching rather than aware. And absolute and complete awareness is the sense of radiation without radiator. That intelligent just exist and perceived all directions. The sense of loneliness, or aloneness, or sense of desolation. There's nothing to hang onto, hold onto. Is the-- seem to be the ultimate pattern of awareness. You can call it sense of cleanness, or sense of freshness, or sense of aloneness, or sense of impermanence -- whatever you like you can call it. But it's basically simply being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=991.0,1075.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And such perception can only take place in short glimpses, because then we forget and we are-- our awareness has very small boundary. At the beginning of course then you have glimpse of the impermanence. The object is impermanent and perceiver of the object is also impermanent. And short glimpse of it. Often this glimpse is very... very abstract and almost indescribable, because happens so fast. Just a short glimpse of desolation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=1075.0,1130.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, the next impermanent that we're going to talk about is that of the energy, in an impermanent situation. We have a look at the-- looked at the physical impermanence, and psychological impermanence, and the next one is being the impermanence in energy level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=1130.0,1160.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that we have developed realization, or intelligence to see the things are consist of continual birth and death, impermanent, and the perceiver also has the same kind of flavor. But we haven't actually experience the atmosphere in which those-- that death and birth take place. Environment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=1160.0,1207.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, things are caused by their own nature. But not only that but things also caused by their nature within the environment. You can plant a flower, sow a seed, but if the plant has nowhere to grow or if there's no temperature of sort, appropriate one, the manure may be right and the plant-- the seed may be right, but there's no energy outside of it to create its growth. So, the existence need sympathetic environment in order to exist. The area outside of this birth and death had to be sympathetic environment so that birth and death could exist, could take place. You might say that death is easy one, it's purely destruction, doesn't need any environment, but that's not true. Death needs also environment, to be dead. So does the birth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=1207.0,1293.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that, now what is this environment outside? You could call this energy environment. Energy which minds the activities of the situation. Energy which takes part in it. Energy which deliberately forces the situations into state of impermanence. Not only the energy exists as a boundary, but energy is also not only the space but it's inside as well. It's-- it heart of every existence or any birth or death, has to have that space as well as the substance to combine things together, combines the matter together, objects together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=1293.0,1372.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that energy is-- seems to be intelligent one, as well as organic. But energies cannot be categorized as the animate or the inanimate. It's just pure air, atmosphere, all-pervasive. Accommodates birth and death. In fact, without that, situation cannot take place, as we mentioned already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=1372.0,1439.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that sympathetic environment of energy. I don't know whether we should use word \"energy\" or to not, but it's certainly is a powerful one. If we look at very closely, even if we call it energy it doesn't fit into that category alone at all. But anyhow, this kind of energy is the-- also the sense of experiencing that energy is also a sense of inspiration, the sense of dance, and excitement. As well as it's source of depression and chaos and fear, as well. From psychological level. And that energy is part of us; the same time it is away from us. But it's total function is to accommodate the impermanence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=1439.0,1545.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I suppose that sort of energy could be perceived by the discriminate awareness, intelligence. In other word, at the beginning, try and not discriminate birth and death, good and bad. And trying to see the sameness, oneness in the impermanence. And as we go along we perceive greater, greater vision of oneness. But having experience the oneness already, then that oneness had to be-- need to-- we need to *live* in that oneness, have to *work* with that oneness. The working with that oneness is-- needs discriminate awareness; to see the birth and death are different, and good and bad are different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=1545.0,1630.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, talking about impermanence, of just purely thinking that things are going to change: \"I'm going to die one day.\" And \"every day is changing.\" And \"things don't last long.\" That's-- just wondering on such thing doesn't seem to be enough. We’re still hanging onto-- we are still waiting to be dead. Rather than experiencing the impermanence of-- nowness of impermanence. Of course everybody knows we are going to die one day. And knowing that doesn't help. It's familiar situation. Unless that we are able to see the ever-presenting-- ever-present impermanence, in all levels: physical level, psychological level, and the level of energy.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have a discussion on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=1630.0,1727.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, in what sense is what you call \"energy\" itself an example of impermanence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: In what sense is energy impermanent? The energy in the sense that you use that term.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because energy is-- the nature of energy is sympathetic to the rest of the thing. Energy cannot exist by itself without its relationship. If energy has any relationship with the rest of it, and because of that it is-- energy itself is continual birth and death.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: And energy is, so to speak dependent on that which its-- which it moves--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --so the energy [UNCLEAR: supports?] [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it's reciprocal relationship.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=1727.0,1793.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, what-- you said that energy had intelligence -- I don't understand what that means.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well energy is sort of boundless. It's not intelligent in a sense of energy as being individual person, but it's self-existing depth. I mean energy has intelligent because we--- when we relate with energy and energy relates with us, it's purely subjective, you know, rather than that energy is-- has intelligent in terms of being.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It seems that the whole situation is subjective in a sense that you said that you couldn't have a correspondence between something that was permanent and something impermanent. That kind of the qualities that we are are the qualities, you know, that everything is. That we kind of lay the trip out in a sense. I mean there's not room enough for both.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's true, yeah. It's... I mean whole thing becomes one point of view. In some sense very limited. I mean that's why it is subject to decay.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The whole situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, subject to death.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Even the point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Otherwise you can't have point of view [laughs], if it's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: -- one thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Perceiving things as they are, that would also be subject to decay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To decay, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=1793.0,1923.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, if this energy is the environment accommodating birth and death, I don't understand how, as an environment, on the ground on which this is happening, how *it* is subject to birth and death? How *it* is impermanent?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it is subject to birth and death, because it has a correspondent relationship with the birth and death.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: But it-- how could birth and death take place if there wasn't some kind of...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Continuity?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Continuity on which it took place?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems by itself, and the sympathetic energy. Which also goes along with it. It's like you are traveling with somebody who helps you to find a way, but also your guide had to walk as well as you have to. Otherwise it doesn't become sympathetic. It would-- could destroy the energy pattern of birth and death, if there's a different altogether. It's like fire and water, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=1923.0,2008.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, last night you were suggesting that we might not be real at all, we might just be ghosts. And yet you speak about seeing reality, seeing things as they are, as though we *were* some kind of reality. Somehow there seems to be a slight dichotomy there in my mind-- I'm not quite clear how the ghost is going to see the reality?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But, you see the point of reality is, we're not talking about something solid.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But reality is equally ghost-like.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the-- maybe the, experiencing the reality is to realize the un-reality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Unless we’re nuts. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=2008.0,2069.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The term \"energy\" is kind of vague in my mind, but what you were talking about reminded me about a meditative term. I'm wondering what the relationship between energy and space is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think energy and space are seem to be same, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Or another term, how it is like the basic ground and sometimes viewing basic ground.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Basic ground? I think so, yeah. There-- these are sort of synonymous, all of these.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: And shunyata?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm? Yeah. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: So then you're saying that space is impermanent?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: You're saying that space is impermanent?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, very much so. That seems the whole point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: What’s the Tibetan word for...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: What's the Tibetan word for that you translate as \"energy\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there is a term called \"nu pa\", which means-- literally means \"energy\". Or sometimes \"power\", or \"strength\", or strength to survive, to live, to function. Which seem--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is that usually the way that we use energy in every day by [INAUDIBLE] a very energetic person or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, not quite.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --who would be around today.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not quite but you could use like a strength of a horse, or--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: The potential.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, or strength of-- sharpness of a sword or something. Capability kind of thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=2069.0,2169.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: It seems-- you talked about birth and death, and then you talked about impermanence. And then you talked about how birth and death, energy and potential and everything, that is impermanent too. If I understand you. But if you sort of *double* that by saying that the original thing is impermanent also, it turns back on itself. Into a continuity again. Well, maybe not...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean there is that great possibility of the only continuity is the discontinuity.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say is that if something dies then that's not permanent because there's going-- you know it can't stay that way.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: It's not a permanent thing. Then all of a sudden you sort of jump up another-- it's a constant again. This \"yes\" and \"no.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But that-- but then you have to ask the same question that's-- you're back at the beginning again.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughter] Yeah, I mean it's-- that’s level of perception. That you perceive something, and then your perception need also another perceiver to reassure that's perception. So the death had to be confirmed or had to exist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=2169.0,2257.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well how does this tie into the notion of escaping the round?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Notion of what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Of escaping the round, of birth and death, of bringing them-- \"moksha\", or whatever it's called. As though there were some way out so to speak, of this--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that freedom is a matter of opinion. [Laughter] In fact we have to free ourselves from opinions, rather than the actual things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=2257.0,2298.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Does this basic intelligence like the-- really the natural order of things, so to speak, like this flow of energy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: It sets the occasion then for the birth and the death.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. And itself. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=2298.0,2319.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Rinpoche, you said at the beginning we try not to discriminate. And then comes the oneness and at that of working with the oneness, and living with the oneness. And discriminating aware-- discrimination does come, discriminating awareness. To what end? I mean is-- if the discriminating awareness of unsympathetic energy? And to what end?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, discriminate awareness of itself. I mean then you don't have to protect yourself from primitive beliefs anymore. So you could have belief, which is not primitive one. It's like sort of destroying any trips, constantly stripping away. And then finally you can afford to have a tripless trip.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: And those are constantly coming through then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=2319.0,2385.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I remember during the Mandala Seminar [KCL, August 1972] there was a mention-- or at least I seem to to understand that what you implied was that there was an importance in tradition. In a certain way, towards-- of tradition. Now doesn't-- isn't tradition a contradiction of the changing process? To try to maintain tradition? Or is that just-- is all that is is sort of like security for us, by repetition?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, I don't remember that particular discussion. But there seem to be tradition in a larger scale, that there is a sense of order. Even the chaos becomes order. And there is also way of doing things, which are developed by other people, and we take onto that tradition-- that style. Maybe that style is to develop hopelessness, or to develop anything. So, I think from the tradition in the greater sense it is-- we needn't say it is necessary, because it is intrinsic part of it. I mean tradition versus to intelligence, in fact.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: A cultural tradition.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, cultural tradition is seem to be a smaller kind of scale. That-- I mean there could be pure security, that you don't have to think about it, that it's done things so you do it. Which you kind of create a security. But at the same time the cultural tradition also protects from frivolousness, as well. So, I mean you can't completely destroy it, or completely take in, so it had to be-- had to relate with a larger tradition, had to become the guideline to the cultural tradition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=2385.0,2511.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Is it possible to think verbally about transitoriness, impermanence, or anything? Is it possible to think verbally and allow for the transitoriness or impermanence of reality to become a part of your life. In other words, I find that every time I try to understand what you are saying, what impermanence is, that I turn the thought over and over in my mind with words. I keep saying, \"Well, transitoriness means this, impermanence means that.\" And I find that for that moment while I'm thinking about it, I'm sort of stagnant. I'm stopping at some place. So is it possible to think about something with words, and allow your true nature to-- allow yourself to go you know, think-- can you get back to your true nature at all if you continue to use words and concepts, which seem to linger in time? They have a duration.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that how you relate with the words. If you relate with the words as just purely words, then just become like a book. Has no intelligence -- except lot of intelligence things written on it. Whereas if you become-- if you begin to *feel* the words, you know, naturally, that words which concerns you, then you even don't of those in terms of words, but terms of implication behind it. You know, that if you be told, \"you are under arrest,\" then you don't think terms of words [laughter], in terms of the implication behind it. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: So if we cultivate the-- if we're troubled by words and how they feel stagnant, then if we try to find our way back to the feeling behind the words.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it's application with ourselves. Particularly on the things we are discussing, has to have application within our life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=2511.0,2675.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Rinpoche, does the thing with the impermanence, you know, you could completely sense, you know, your total impermanence. Don't you sort of reach sort of a level of permanence? Or does--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Welcome.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: --you keep on going about forever.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Keep on going forever. I think so yeah. When if there is a definite ending then it is against its flow.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: An ending is just another beginning.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's already permanent thing, there's really-- you know if earth is flat then there's a sheer drop. And it's continual, impermanence. I mean that's why the fundamental basic principle of impermanent is the space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=2675.0,2736.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: In terms of physical death...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Why wouldn't it be right to say that there was a permanent discontinuity for the perceiver, or whatever it was that was watching the cycles, and was involved in it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that physical death is not the final death.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: It seems that way maybe, but it seems very trusting.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seems what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Seems very trusting, to think that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Why trust it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, okay. Don't trust.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Well does it matter?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Doesn't matter. [Laughter] Things can change.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: But it's led to a certain confidence in a number-- there's been a number of questions, that came up in the last seminar, the question about \"can't like watch yourself be buried,\" was the discussion. And there was a question yesterday about the center of memory, what part of it is that remembers the past history. That's it. Confusing in my mind because on the one hand to trust that way lends a lot of confidence, about the basic ground, about energy. But if you give that up, what have you given up?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you give that up, seems to be you have to pick up lot of more occupation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: [UNCLEAR: Be? feel?] up more.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. So you can't really give up, in the complete total.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Couldn't someone?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's not known.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=2736.0,2875.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Did you say physical death is not the final death?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Well, obviously my question is, what is? Or is this where reincarnation comes in?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, the physical death is another expression of death.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: But we don't know beyond that, do we?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We don't.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: But you say it with such certainty. That it *isn't* the final--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Can't you say with equal certainty that it is? Is or isn't?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that you can't say that physical death *is* final death either.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Simply because we don't know?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Simply because we don't know. And if it is final death, physical death had to have tremendous power to seal off any kind of intelligence. I mean we have some general belief, you know, in order to end the pain, suicidal isn't answer. That seem to be a wide known belief, whether you are believe in the reincarnation, or you don't believe in the reincarnation, or religious, or whatever. And that implies there's some continuity. I mean suicidal is regard as shocking, so there seem to be some continuity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=2875.0,2997.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Continuity of intelligence you mean after physical--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: -- death? And the continuity of that intelligence can so-- if it associates with the energy that is present in both a life and death state, is that a further perishable point of view?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Say that again, in a simple way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: I wish I could. All right. Our intelligence, the intelligence that may be there or after death-- physical death occurs, will that, or can that intelligence identify with the greater energy that is available, and still maintain a point of view. Or will that-- or is it necessary that that point of view assimilate with that energy and therefore is no longer--- it doesn't matter whether it's a point of view or it's not point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that physical death is not all that magical and powerful to change the whole impression. Like when you fall asleep. And you wake up next day and you function the same way. And the continuity still goes on. The only difference is there's no solid identification such as physical body.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Is that-- the physical body is absent.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, just purely something is missing. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: And you-- intelligence can be conscious of that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: And intelligence can be conscious of that absence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well obviously, yeah. And if you lost a extra ring, you're conscious of it several days. So body is much more than ring.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=2997.0,3145.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Well, [laughs] I have to refer to ghosts. If we are ghosts, what about those energies of those individuals who no longer have their bodies. Are they super [laughing] ghosts, or [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs; laughter] are they the people who are real? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think basic idea of ghost has nothing to do with the particularly having body or not having body. It's the general transparency. So, if we have a body, ghost with a body; if you don't have body, ghost without body. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=3145.0,3207.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: You've spoke about unmasking a lot and you've just mentioned transparency. I'm just wondering what is this transparency to? Or what is unmasked? Is that the energy or is...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Transparency in this case is I suppose without basic substance, and in nothing to hang onto. And unmasking is to realize that you have nothing to hang onto. There's a belief that you can hang onto something. That not realize that you are ghost. And unmasking is that to prove that you are ghost.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=3207.0,3261.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: I understand that we can be reborn in animal form?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we actually do in our lifetimes. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: What about in the next life? Is it [INAUDIBLE] come back as a--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: -- [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --hypothetical possibility.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you could do it this lifetime [laughter] [INAUDIBLE] you can do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=3261.0,3288.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92680/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Rinpoche, is the sort of individual intelligence that becomes-- that sometimes is conscious that it doesn't have a body or something, is that the same as the energy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. It's-- you see body isn't all that important. 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Mhmm.\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=2878.57,2882.47"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92681/annotation/551","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER14: Well, obviously\nmy question is, what is?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367#t=2882.47,2887.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168967/file/307367/transcript/92681/annotation/552","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Or is this where\nreincarnation comes 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