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Humbleness, gentleness, warmth, and kindness essential for artists. \"Positive arrogance\" not chauvinistic but connected with uplifted, positive experience of yourself and pride in enlightened society, the presentation of heaven, earth, and man principle. Importance of being genuine, not cheating and not pushing your agenda. Learn to relax and settle down into your particular discipline, then breakthrough can occur. Responsibility of carrying your understanding of gentleness and genuineness out into the larger world. Imperial colors yellow and purple as representing masculine and feminine principles, when joined are accomplishment of four karmas. Talk ends with spontaneous poetry session."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: True Perception","BOOK: Dharma Art","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 07","BOOK: Art of Calligraphy","SRCBOOK: Visual Dharma Sourcebook III"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: TRUE PERCEPTION (previously titled DHARMA ART): Chapter: Joining Heaven and Earth: Part 6: Art and Society\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/true-perception-1597.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 7 (in contained book DHARMA ART)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-381.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: THE ART OF CALLIGRAPHY (out-of-print): Heaven, Earth and Man: Part 6: Art and Society\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.abebooks.com/products/isbn/9780877735915\"\u003eAbebooks\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nVISUAL DHARMA SOURCEBOOK III (out-of-print)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Dec 07 2021 to Feb 28 2022 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Sophie Perks Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1979"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Final talk of seminar. Humbleness, gentleness, warmth, and kindness essential for artists. \"Positive arrogance\" not chauvinistic but connected with uplifted, positive experience of yourself and pride in enlightened society, the presentation of heaven, earth, and man principle. Importance of being genuine, not cheating and not pushing your agenda. Learn to relax and settle down into your particular discipline, then breakthrough can occur. Responsibility of carrying your understanding of gentleness and genuineness out into the larger world. Imperial colors yellow and purple as representing masculine and feminine principles, when joined are accomplishment of four karmas. Talk ends with spontaneous poetry session."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/168/711/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1666471503","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19790719VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":3835.05275,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/168/711/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1666471503","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/168/711/original/19790719VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3?1665950016","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3835.05275,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19790719VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19790719VCTR1 - Naropa Institute - Visual Dharma II - Talk 6]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Visual Dharma, held at Naropa Institute in Boulder, Colorado. This is talk number six, July 19th, 1979. This is an ARP digital remaster made November 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=0.0,18.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Welcome ladies and gentlemen, and quite sadly or maybe happily, that this situation is drawing its conclusion, final day, evening, tonight. And working with you have been wonderful experience, as far as I'm concerned. And also that appreciating enormously your input and enthusiasm and your vision, that we can work together this way further more. But tonight we maybe go through just briefing and concluding the whole thing that we discussed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=18.0,69.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As far as the notion of the technicalities or the details of the informations that we discussed throughout this particular seminar, is I think quite obvious. And there's one correction should be made, with my apology, is the idea of seeing and looking concept. [Laughter] That you should be quite clear and you should refer to the last year's talk that we talked about that subject. So the idea of looking opposed to listening comes first, and seeing comes later, opposed to hearing. So you might have to make corrections to that particular situation. And my apologies in bad presentation, but I think if you look through the basic logic of the whole thing, you would make sense out of that, and I'm glad you are confused about that. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=69.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As far as to the diagrams that you've seen -- seen, or looked at -- [laughter] you could study them further, and reworking on your notes, or quite possibly that we would like to have the transcript of this particular session will be available to you. I hope we could take care of that. Mr. Green [Ken Green]? So that if you like to receive a transcript of this particular session, I would like to encourage you to contact Mr. Green and his office of this particular bureaucracy, and put your name and address, and so you will receive the transcripts and you could work with that particular diagram principle. Would be good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=150.0,229.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And tonight just I heard, is that some of you be working with arrangements with people in connection with idea of heaven, earth, and man principle in environment of a room situation, which is also very interesting. And I think it's also worthwhile situation, particularly from the concept of filmmaking and that kind of idea, or setting up a party, or how to set your dining room set and inviting your friends, and how to set your furnitures in your living room. And there's little situations and larger situations of that kind, would become extremely helpful for you to work on that particular principle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=229.0,277.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The final message, so to speak, if I may say so, is largely based on, with my humble duty, is that we would like to accomplish ideal artistic world and artistic situation altogether, throughout world. Not only it is being restrict to the North American hemisphere alone, that any modern world, or ancient world, whatever you have. And art is become so important in people's life individually. It is not only regarded as we discussed again and again, lots of it, it is not regarded as a money-making adventure, it's not particularly commercial concept and how we could become a bestseller, an expensive deal. But in the larger level, that it is definitely connected with idea of how we could actually clean up the setting-sun vision and transform them into what is known as the Great Eastern Sun vision. And that is our purpose altogether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=277.0,391.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I trust that lot of you have had throughout this particular session some idea of the notion of the Great Eastern Sun principle altogether. And if you haven't, maybe we could discuss little bit about that if I may, with your permission. The idea of Great Eastern Sun in this concept is nothing to do with chauvinism to begin with, or nothing to do with aggression to begin with -- ironically, the opposite of. Humbleness, genuineness, are the words that we can come up with -- humbleness, genuineness. And also the other term is sense of precision, and warmth, kindness, gentleness. The humbleness, gentleness, kindness, warmth concept is very important for us as an artist or as an ordinary, decent human being altogether. That is the definition of Great Eastern Sun vision.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=391.0,485.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there is also term called \"positive arrogant\" which some people find difficult to accept linguistically -- from the dictionary's point of view it maybe sound contradictory, but from experiential point of view however, that positive arrogant has lots of room to it. That in fact the whole principle that we be talking about, the idea of having heaven, earth, and man principle altogether, is presentation. It is positive arrogant. At the beginning we talked about that you may not have any idea what you going to execute on your drawing board, on your notepad, on your canvas -- lost, but at the same time, suddenly something perks up, which is positive arrogant. And that particular arrogant has no reference point at all with particularly idea of chauvinism. Chauvinism is a one-sided situation, that you support either this side or that side, and \"this\" and \"that\" or \"me\" and \"them.\" So chauvinism doesn't come in at all with that particular picture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=485.0,573.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the basic vision altogether, the whole thing, is that we would like to organize and create our \"decent society\" which is linguistic term, and we could be slightly positive arrogant by saying even \"enlightened society.\" Can we take that much arrogance? Shall we say that, or not? Shall we? Well... well we are not particularly afraid of that, saying \"enlightened society\", but at the same time that we do not want offend any of you at all, and if you think that by saying \"enlightened society\" means something very haughty, and something very unreasonable, and something aggressive, obviously we have to go step by step, process by process, as we go on. And we can't build up like a tent on the spot, right away. And it will be journey for each one of us, myself included of course. It will be a very slow journey to begin with. The first journey will be very, very slow and difficult to even see, the progress is maybe in question. And as we take such very slow journey, then we begin to realize the progress is not in question anymore. We begin to see -- ahh, something is taking place, there is a flash of goodness taking in our perspective. And we begin to develop wonderful head and shoulder as we practice, and we become authentic artists. We begin to take pride in that, and that pride could be connected with the notion of enlightenment. And we can do so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=573.0,714.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We are not fooling ourselves with a concept and ideas, but it has become evident in the past, and we can always refer back to the 2,500 years of Buddhist success, Buddhist vision, is always built on that particular kind of slow journey finally making sense. And we begin to create tremendous spark and tremendous explosions, unexpectedly. Sometimes you think that certain area, certain corners, maybe not worthwhile investigating, and you just let them go, but suddenly to your surprise, you begin to see that very corner that you neglected has spark, here and there, all along, all the time. So that particular spark is known as the enlightened society spark.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=714.0,773.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, outcome of this particular session I would like to have is that basic gentleness and kindness as an artist yourselves -- or the audience of you, whoever they may be -- please don't push your trips to begin with, and please be gentle to yourself to begin with. That the every calligraphy and explanations that you've seen, and also you will see the flower show which happens on Saturday, will represent that particular type of vision of the gentleness which has two tones. There is a gentleness of gray area, and maybe it's silver-gray. And then there's a gentleness which is very red like an open wound, which is very red. Then there is the gentleness of gray-green, which compensates the redness of the flesh and basic silver-gray, and in turn the redness begin to shines through. If you look at arrangement of colors which are basically silver-gray, if you put red streaks over it, and if you put green-gray over-- on the top, sounds terrible doesn't it, but [laughter] if you actually do that in the color arrangement you find out that there's lots of dynamic situations taking place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=773.0,898.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then we are getting into the four-karma-type arrangements that we discussed the other days, also has very interesting point of reference. That all of these shapes and colors are basically connected with, as you know, white, yellow, red, green. But if you simplified whole thing into one particular perspective of color, of putting all those colors together, the ideal traditional conclusion is being lemon yellow and purple. Those two colors are known as imperial colors in the imperial courts -- China and Japan, Korea, India, in Ashoka situation as well. That you have the lemon yellowness which is what we call it traditionally is \"high-class\" yellow, which is connected with idea of strength and father principle of kinghood. And the purple, particular type of shade of purple-- I wonder anybody has the serial number in PMS [color chart], that particular purple?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=898.0,995.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Two? Two-six-six, in the PMS color chart, you can see it, which is also called \"high-class\" purple, which is the ultimate idea of femininity principle. That when the masculine principle and feminine principle are joined together, then you have the complete accomplishment of all four of those actions -- pacifying, enriching, magnetizing, destroying -- and everything is accomplished that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=995.0,1026.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You might say why and how that could accomplish that way. I don't think I can actually give you any answer to. Maybe I can, obviously could cook up a some scientific reasons, but I think that's not the particularly the point. And idea is then here is being that you should actually see those colors and put them together. The yellow, we have a serial number on the yellow, high-class yellow? We don't. Anybody? Well, we find out. That whole purpose is idea of soothing such aggression and such passion and such ignorance, that everybody is want to learn so hard and wants to do the *best*, which might be all right on the other hand of such enthusiasm and exertion, but on the other hand that could become killer. And if you begin to relate with such situation too intensely, that we begin to lose the notion of gentleness and genuineness, which is the essence of work of art altogether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=1026.0,1109.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, what we trying to do here altogether is to tame our society, including yourselves, if I may say so. That you could be more decent and less experimental in a sense that you don't try lot of aggression-- aggressive ways to trying to prove your theory, but learn to relax and settle down into your particular discipline, whatever you are doing -- whether you are making a film, whether you are riding horse, or whether you are photographer, or painter, musician, landscaper, interior decorator, whatever you have. Linguist, scientist is also regarded as a work of art. From this way of thinking, scientific research is regarded as a work of art as well because the scientific discipline also do need tremendous notion of gentleness, otherwise it would become experimenting the universe, and which means cutting down everybody and open their lungs and heart on your clean carpet in your drawing room.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=1109.0,1194.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we do have a tremendous integrity and scheme, if you like, to make our world and our understanding is workable. That there is a tremendous outcome coming out of this, is that only thing what we want to do is that invite human beings into taking part in something real, and something very gentle, and something very beautiful at the same time. And we find that there is a problem with traditional scientific or traditional business mentality concept, might have a higher suggestions of how to succeed, but they lack how to make friends, how to be warm. And that is become a tremendous obstacle. And when we begin to realize how to become warm and how to actually make friends with your world, and when that begin to happen and when that kind of breakthrough begin take place, then there is no problem in introducing buddhadharma in your work of art, at all. The essence of buddhadharma being compassion and kindness, fundamentally. That is the components of enlightened mind, which consist of \"prajna\" which is the \"discriminating awareness\" and \"karuna\" which is notion of \"friendship\" and \"kindness.\" So that when the kindness and discriminating awareness begin to take place then you have a complete outfit, so to speak. That you have acquired your particular spectacle, which is a good prescription and also clean at the same time. So then you can look through your world that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=1194.0,1319.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, I would like you to go away with memory of what I said tonight, is we will have to be so genuine and we have to be so gentle, and otherwise there is no way, no way, no other way, to work with the universe, at all, work with the world, at all. And you have a lot of responsibilities, all of you, ladies and gentlemen, who are taking part here, have a tremendous responsibility. And the responsibilities falls into twofold situations. First one is yourself, become that way, other one is obviously work with others that way. So it is very important for us to realize that how powerful all of us here. When we get together here it seem to be almost insignificant that a bunch of us get together in this particular place, and we have our scene, and then you go away. But on the other hand all of you will be branching out all over the country, all over the world, and carrying your mind atomic bomb along with you, this point. And you can play tremendous role in developing peace in the whole world. And it is very important for you to realize that how important you are and how your role is very important, including those who also going to stay in Boulder itself, is very important to play the role as well at the same time. So this particular talk is more like plea than talk, particularly, but however we could have a short discussion on it, if you like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=1319.0,1458.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: When a practitioner is sitting in that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: When a practitioner is sitting meditation -- in that case, that person is unifying heaven, earth, and man in that situation. Is that correct? They take the posture--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Long time ago, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What do you mean long time ago?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, like Buddha--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Buddha did it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We all do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Right. But when the practitioner is in a situation where it is not unified, where the elements of heaven, earth, and man are then--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Awareness, mindfulness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: First flash. You should be mindful, can you be mindful? Then you have a receding process with that-- proceeding process with that. Choo choo choo choo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=1458.0,1512.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: So even if the situation is chaotic it is not-- the index is the awareness--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Always.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --of the practitioner then, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's always, choo choo choo choo.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Right, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Always taking place.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: So is it literally when one is sitting, you know, you're man, you're on the ground, the zafu, the heaven is the atmosphere around?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Heaven is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: The atmosphere around the situation then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Everywhere.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah, everywhere. It's that literal then.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Very real.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: All the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Extremely real. I thought that was slightly, kind of [UNCLEAR: tour de force?] question.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Sometimes it doesn't seem so clear that things that are there can be unified into that, at all--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All right.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=1512.0,1576.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Young lady here.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, it seems that at times a certain kind of energy will come up in an artwork--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: A certain kind of energy may come up in an artwork, and suppose it seems to be destroying energy, in that case -- or in the case of any energy that you might perceive coming up -- would you say that one could explore that, one should explore that further? Or, should one let that go and just wait for something to come up again?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=1576.0,1633.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you mean destroy?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well supposing the work has some elements of change and that triangular kind of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seem to be all right.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Then--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As long as you don't cause pain to anybody else.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yes. And should some further vision come up from that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --should one go deeper into that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Practice, and you'll find out.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [Laughs] Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's all right, I think. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=1633.0,1674.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: In the color schemes that you mentioned, the first one--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: In the color scheme, the color-- four colors first and then the two that they resolved into -- I missed blue in that. Somehow it-- I wonder what's happened to blue. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Blue?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah, I didn't know if that's a silly question, but I know if I-- I'll go away and think about why didn't we have blue representing something, you know, as--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Blue--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --representing lots of things. It represents England, [laughter] to begin with, and also represents France, as well. And it represents ocean and also represents the original mirror, cosmic mirror. And here we have a blue representing dragon, which is the idea of conquering heaven. And blue is connected with idea of after you are woken up, then you see blue. That is to say that you have a first dawn is white, and then the medium dawn -- halfway through the dawn and before the sunshine -- is pure blue. Idea of awake and first exit, first opening, and also blue representing Royal Air Force in England.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=1674.0,1778.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I wonder if you would share with us some names of Western artists in the history of art whom you have admired?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: With the idea of what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I guess I'm--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Of the ideal?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I guess perhaps I'm asking you your favorite painters or artists.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=1778.0,1801.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, well, that's interesting. I'm afraid it's quite limited. I find that Turner is the best and my favorite artist, not because he's purely English but somehow that his vision is very open and wonderful in terms of painting. And I can actually [UNCLEAR: restrict?] with that. In terms of music I like Mozart very much on that principle altogether. But if you turn into the Oriental music, like Japanese and Chinese, Korean situations, it is not so much of the artists who compose them, but because the music themselves are very basic. And I would definitely suggest that people should listen to gagaku, Japanese gagaku court music, which is wonderful. And people often talk about purely listen to koto music alone, but somehow gagaku has much more eerie sound for strangers, but once you begin to get into it you begin to realize that the whole beauty connected with that. And the-- if you actually witness somebody who would be playing a shakuhachi, personally, rather than listen to record, which would be good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=1801.0,1895.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And my notion of music and art is extremely romantic in some sense. And it is very romantic, but at the same time it holds its ground, so there is a different kind of approach listening to classical music such as like Mozart, opposed to latest-- or the earliest -- what you call? -- jazz, which might be the classical version of Mozart in some sense, in connecting with separating the cultural growth and the personal development free from rock music.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=1895.0,1955.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER4: What about contemporary painting?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Contemporary painting? I'm afraid I haven't kept up my up-to-date particularly. Not very much.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=1955.0,1983.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gentleman in the back.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, I wanted to ask if you could tell us something about an enlightened view?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I could do what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: If you could tell us something--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Tell you something?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: --of an enlightened view regarding the purified form of economics for the support of living dharma art?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Purified?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Purified form, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=1983.0,2041.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think you have to start with yourself to begin with, so that we have something to start with pure. And then we expand beyond that and have to take confidence on that. And there is a possibility obviously that all the time that your work of art would be extraordinarily success and popular. At that point the artist have to hold back and it does not become merchandise situation. And then go beyond that.\r\n\r\n\r\nI'm sorry, I don't know what you're trying to get out of that, but that's what I think on how you can do it, is have a some sense of basic integrity. That you're not going to push your work of art into the JCPenney level, or Woolworth-worthy, [laughter] or anything like that. And stay above it, but at the same time one cannot become completely arrogant and not relating with that kind of Americana. And there had to be some kind of relationship goes with that as well, obviously. But at the same time the popularity and the success means different. When you're popular that is basically idea of setting sun -- popular meaning that you are encouraging everybody's sense of frivolity. And the success mean also that, but on the other hand the success could mean that you're making good success, that it is workable situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Well--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=2041.0,2177.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not sure whether I'm answering your questions.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: My thought in regard to what to you're saying is that living life as a sacred art form does not necessarily have a product.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can always go on and do that. You can always continue with that. I think the basic point is that if you can have-- if you could develop basic sense of wholesome existence, as regard your personal life, everything speaks for itself beyond that. And we talked about artist being genuine people and not cooking something up for the purely presentations. [Speaking French] Ca va?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=2177.0,2268.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Rinpoche, for the last few days all of us are have gone through a tremendous experience. You have opened new vistas for us and this is something--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon. Can you say that again?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=2268.0,2283.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER6: Yeah. For the past few days we went through with you a tremendous experience because you have opened new vistas for us. You have awakened new concepts about art for us. And we were told we should go and see the exhibit at Marpa House, that I think some of us or all of us have done, and we have a current exhibit at the community room in Dorje Dzong. So, as you probably know, there are two trends, we have noticed two trends. There is the traditional art, Tibetan traditional art, the thangka; and the other is a kind of new Buddhist trend, Buddhist art, that we seen at Marpa House. But we were mostly impressed by what we have seen at the community room in Dorje Dzong. So we would like you for a benefit of all of us to make a comment of these two trends, traditional Buddhist art and modern Buddhist art. And also yesterday evening you had made a beautiful calligraphy, but we hardly understand the meaning of the, I think, Sanskrit or Tibetan words you have shown on the screen, so will you please care to make a general comment on these we really appreciate that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=2283.0,2421.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you. [Laughter] Well, I think the general idea of the art exhibition at the Marpa House, which I unfortunately unable to see them all, but I think I know the artists, in any case, which is connected with idea of we decide to call it as \"journey art\" rather than presenting our Buddhist version of art, as such, particularly. It is regarded as a journey of their evolution and their development, altogether. So, in some sense my apologies on their behalf. But at the same time they can develop further and better as they begin to develop non-ego type of art process. We have to realize that in this country that people regard their particular expression as a ladder, stepping stone, and often they might produce the wrong ladder, not the right ladder, to step on, so that's problematic situation in some sense. But on the other hand it is only working basis that we have, based on that particular principle. The calligraphy of last night is very much connected with the display of the thangkas that you've seen. It's vajrayana basic idea of first thought, best thought principle altogether. Which is based on idea of simple and no ego involved, just purely [sound of exhale] precise, tchoo. Better than a monkey chant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=2421.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We should discuss that more privately actually, would be interesting to talk about. How long you going to be here?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: You ask me how long I'd be here?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I will stay here until the end of the second session.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well let's see if we can get together.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Thank you very much.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Talk about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=2580.0,2625.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nCOLLIN WALCOTT: Rinpoche, the terms \"eccentric\" and \"neurotic\" and sometimes even the word \"crazy\" seem to be used interchangeably when talking about artists in this culture. Could you review the Buddhist notion of neurosis as it's different from the say Freudian notion of neurosis, and if the idea of eccentricity ties in with notions like crazy wisdom and the transmutation of neurosis?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=2625.0,2659.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you. Well, that is very interesting, because it goes with the whole European society concept. Occasionally the various European courts have invited so-called artists because they are cute and they are object of amusement, and they could come up with funny ideas. They could dress differently, they could be out of the ordinary, beyond the courtiers, the ministers and rest of the situations. And they feel that-- they felt that it was interesting entertainment. And taking art from that situation altogether into the present situations is that artists also regarded as extraordinary people. And the only license of craziness was given to the artists, not to the criminals. If you have a crazy criminal, that he or she should go to the jail right away; if you have a crazy artist that he or she should hang around and entertain the city. And lot of municipal creative functions are based on that particular concept of having crazy artists around it, because purely they could think something completely upside down, downside up, which ordinary people never think of. So therefore it is regard as new ideas born in the society [laughter] and fantastic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=2659.0,2791.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that concept is maybe more so in the early days of this particular century. And because everybody had to come up with such upside-down idea already, and so the [UNCLEAR: market? marker?] is slowly going down of this particular century of liss-- less-- last decay, and so we don't have any room for or making money situations of such situations particularly. That's a general and ordinary fact-and-figures concept. Then on the other hand there could be the other twist which is the people of enlightened society could come up with a downside-up idea and their particular logic, their particular viewpoint. And it would be-- it will sit, stand, on the space, because there is more connection, further connection -- I wouldn't say \"more\", that's wrong word, I would say further connection with how to stand up on your feet opposed to on your head. So, we'll see how it goes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=2791.0,2887.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"COLLIN WALCOTT: Mhmm. Do you think say in-- for instance, Beethoven is often cited as a classic example of a neurotic artist, and yet there seems to be a great deal of sanity in his upside-down-ness or in the work that he created.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we could say Beethoven is, you know, he's post-art he might be extremely neurotic, but the way he is, he is on his feet. So any of the medieval musicians of that type, early days, I think they are standing on their feet opposed to on their head.\r\n\r\n\r\nCOLLIN WALCOTT: [Laughing] Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=2887.0,2929.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well ladies and gentlemen-- oh! Here's Mr. Ginsberg.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche, you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Just a minute, just a minute.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=2929.0,2950.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ALLEN GINSBERG: My question is similar to Collin's, if-- Collin Walcott's, who just spoke. You use the word \"experimental\", defining it as trying aggressive ways to prove your theory or aggressive ways to project your trip; and in that use of the word \"experimental\" nobody would disagree, or nobody here who has understood what you're saying would disagree. But in the specific application of the word \"experimental\" to, I think, jazz, early and late jazz, and twentieth-century painting, I think I disagree, and many people here might disagree if they understood what you were referring to, but I am not sure precisely what you were referring to. I think that's why some people asked who do you like and who don't you like, past and present. But I think that's a great problem when you use the word \"experimental\" in a pejorative way, because in the twentieth century there was an experimental art that rose out of inquisitiveness rather than out of aggression, or it was-- or it might be seen to rise out of-- an experimental rising out of inquisitiveness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=2950.0,3029.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's fine.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: So there's no problem there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't--\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: You said it's understood by everybody here in the room.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't see any problems.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: But I am not sure [laughter] that there is not a problem when you put down jazz and blues, and we've discussed this before.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we'll see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3029.0,3045.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ALLEN GINSBERG: So would you kindly expand on that and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I don't think I can expand--\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: --explain it a little more?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --very much on that. But I would say there is no problem. And on the other hand that there might not be enough promise.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: Promise.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Promise. Problem and promise -- goes in hand in hand, right? If there's a problem there's no promise, if there's a promise there's no problem. That's basic logic. But if there's no problem this case, there may not have any promise, particularly. But I don't know, we have to wait and see. And I don't think we can particularly predict of the future of the society that way, but we are working here to trying to find out what we could come up, so it will take several years, at least, maybe couple of years. Maybe next year we could discuss about the whole thing. And I don't want to particularly commit myself by saying, \"This is bad, this is good, this is promise, problem--\" ALLEN GINSBERG: Fine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3045.0,3110.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's open, open affair--\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: Well-- sure. It's just that when American heaven is recognized, I hope the saints will come marching in. [Laughter] That's the title of a great jazz song. That's a title of a great old-time jazz song, \"When the Saints Come Marching In.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Whatever you say, sweetheart. [Laughter] Your guess is good as mine. And maybe your best-- your guess is better than mine. We'll see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3110.0,3138.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anybody else? Well I would like to-- oh! Melanie?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MELANIE: I wanted to ask about positive arrogance of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MELANIE: Is that-- that seems to me to be connected to a basic confidence, and an effort, and a leap. Is that accurate? Could you say--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Basic confident and what?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MELANIE: A basic confidence. Positive arrogance. Positive arrogance I'm talking about.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. Being the same-- saying the same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MELANIE: It is. It's kind--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's saying the same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MELANIE: Confidence--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3138.0,3185.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well positive arrogant is very touchy to linguistics people because there is never-- \"arrogant\" is usually bad word. And when you say \"positive arrogant\" it is for the linguistics by saying \"the good bad.\" So bad can never be good, so if you try to say it is very badly good, and nobody will understand it -- it's totally un-understandable. So with that level, so positive arrogant is idea of that uplifted, positive experience of oneself, which is same as basic goodness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3185.0,3233.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNCONFIRMED MELANIE: It sounded like there was something in there of some movement forward. Is that accurate?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Some what?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MELANIE: Movement.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MELANIE: Like effort.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --sure. Well I think it's connected with life, livelihood, altogether, way of life, altogether.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MELANIE: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3233.0,3257.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: SPONTANEOUS POEM #1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I would like to close this point, this point, but we can't close our gathering without somebody's composing good poetry. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nThree line. Please, who would like to do that? Anybody?\r\n\r\n\r\nOkay. All right. Better be good one! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: \"Rinpoche / sitting and laughing / like a big circle with large smile\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3257.0,3334.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: SPONTANEOUS POEM #2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Another one. Maybe Mr. Ginsberg can do it. I'm sure. Three line.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Up to you.\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: \"Heart beating in my chest\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: \"Heart beating in my chest / Banner shining in electric light / Is it a good experiment?\" [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3334.0,3360.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Needs finishing, finishing ending, to the whole thing. Last line. What is that? Quick!\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: \"Everybody listening.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Don't think!\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: \"Everybody listening.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: \"Everybody listening.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Everybody's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: \"Everybody listening\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Listing?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: \"*Listening*\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [UNCLEAR: Destiny?] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3360.0,3388.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ALLEN GINSBERG: It was-- yes:\r\n\r\n\r\n\"Heart beating in my chest / banner shining in electric light / everybody listening\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm. Jolly good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3388.0,3399.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: SPONTANEOUS POEM #3]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Aha, we have Mr. Rome here. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: \"Seeing comes before looking [laughter] / in spite of the words / and the end is the beginning\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3399.0,3436.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: SPONTANEOUS POEM #4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All right. Mr. Green, again. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nKEN GREEN: \"A jolly long week / poetry comes hard / when you're on the spot\" [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3436.0,3481.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: SPONTANEOUS POEM #5]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay. Gentleman in red T-shirt.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: \"From compassion / and from discipline / your art can enrich the world\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3481.0,3498.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: SPONTANEOUS POEM #6]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Could we have Melanie, again? You can do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MELANIE: [Laughs] \"Sitting together / listening together / new eyes\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3498.0,3552.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: SPONTANEOUS POEM #7]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well maybe could stop that point. I would like to indulge myself once more, if I may.\r\n\r\n\r\n\"At the session of dharma art / we gave lots of births of reindeers. Reindeers / They bounce, they buck, but they're totally fresh.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nCan somebody read that back? David?\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: I'm not sure I got it quite right. \"At the session of the dharma art / we gave birth to...?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Gave birth to,\" yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Mhmm. Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nALLEN GINSBERG: Gave lots of reindeers.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Lots of births. Gave lots of births.\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: I thought it was: \"At the session of the dharma art / we gave birth to lots of reindeers. / They bounce, they buck, but they are so fresh.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Something like that. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3552.0,3658.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us, altogether. And I would like to invite, again, to witness the Saturday show of the flower arrangement, and appreciating very much of your participation here, but please be genuine, and good, and please don't try to cheat. Please don't. Please try to be genuine. You can do it. We don't need to borrow that kind of-- that particular type of *hypocrisy*, anymore. It is terrible. If you want to succeed and work with the world and mankind altogether, and if we want to work with the bodhichitta idea altogether, we have to be so gentle and good and honest. So with everybody's work of art, please don't try and cheat anybody. And once you begin to do that, you will never come up with any good ideal, because there's no bodhichitta in you, your executing work of art.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd thank you very much being-- everybody's being so patient and good, and I appreciate all of you very much. And thank you. And let us get back together next year, if you like. Remember our purpose is not cheat anybody and be gentle. That is very important -- *very*, very important. And because we don’t want-- we do not want set further pollution into this particular universe. And you can do it, and take pride in yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3658.0,3818.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41112/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER14: Sir. At this time the T.A.s and the students of the Visual Dharma seminar would like to present to you a token of our gratitude for presenting the genuine teachings to us this last week. And we'd also request that you continue to teach us.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3818.0,3835.05275"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19790719VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE:\nThis is the Venerable Chogyam","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=0.35,1.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Trungpa Rinpoche,\nseminar entitled Visual Dharma,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=1.82,5.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"held at Naropa Institute\nin Boulder, Colorado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=5.75,8.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number six,\nJuly 19th, 1979.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=8.17,12.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital remaster\nmade November 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=12.24,18.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nWelcome ladies and gentlemen,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=18.29,21.52"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and quite sadly\nor maybe happily,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=22.53,27.56"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that this situation\nis drawing its conclusion,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=27.56,32.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"final day,\nevening, tonight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=32.32,38.35"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And working with you have been\nwonderful experience,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=38.35,45.49"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as far as I'm concerned.\nAnd also that appreciating","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=45.49,50.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"enormously your input\nand enthusiasm and your vision,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=50.96,56.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that we can work together\nthis way further more.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=56.26,60.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But tonight we maybe\ngo through just briefing","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=60.95,64.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and concluding the whole thing\nthat we discussed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=64.65,69.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As far as the notion\nof the technicalities","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=69.6,73.78"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or the details\nof the informations","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=73.78,76.52"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that we discussed throughout\nthis particular seminar,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=76.52,82.42"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is I think quite obvious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=82.42,85.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there's one correction\nshould be made, with my apology,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=85.66,90.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is the idea of seeing\nand looking concept.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=90.11,95.281"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That you should be quite clear","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=95.281,99.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and you should refer\nto the last year's 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Please, who would\nlike to do that? Anybody?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3282.44,3292.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/813","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. All right.\nBetter be good one!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3303.16,3307.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/814","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3307.54,3311.258"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/815","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11: \"Rinpoche /\nsitting and laughing /","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3313.72,3317.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/816","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"like a big circle\nwith large smile\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3317.71,3322.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/817","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Another one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3327.34,3330.78"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/818","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe Mr. Ginsberg can do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3330.78,3334.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/819","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm sure. 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Quick!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3367.22,3372.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/829","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ALLEN GINSBERG:\n\"Everybody listening.\"\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nDon't think!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3372.39,3374.52"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/830","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ALLEN GINSBERG:\n\"Everybody listening.\"\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: 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Mr. Green, again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3436.41,3441.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/844","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3441.28,3445.033"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/845","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Unknown gesture or incident;\nlaughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3448.0,3453.848"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/846","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KEN GREEN:\n\"A jolly long week /","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3458.78,3461.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/847","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"poetry comes hard /","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3461.75,3466.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/848","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when you're on\nthe spot\" [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711#t=3466.4,3475.235"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76194/file/168711/transcript/41113/annotation/849","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nOkay. 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