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Bardo of birth, living, and dwelling on particular state of being, is based on speed, aggression, and ambition. At the peak point of any experience -- whether passion, hatred, joy, aggression, or insight -- confusion and uncertainty arise, not quite sure if we are learning something or missing something, going mad. Wanting to dwell in, grasp the peak experience, but also doing double take, looking back. One experience includes sanity and madness, not either/or. All bardos contain feeling of both hot and cold water poured on you simultaneously, pain and pleasure, samsara and nirvana, two sides of same coin. Lengthy Q\u0026amp;A, topics include: [Q3] self-observing awareness; carefulness, leading to negative view of what could go wrong, creates paranoia rather than positive state of mind; [Q9] experiential level of madness and sanity; [Q17] surrendering to guru."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Transcending Madness","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 06"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: TRANSCENDING MADNESS: Part One, Chapter 4: The Bardo of Birth\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/transcending-madness-1570.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 6 (in contained book TRANSCENDING MADNESS)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-380.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["May 02 2021 to Sep 14 2022 Transcribing: Jessyca Goldstein Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}}],"summary":{"en":["The bardo of birth, associated with the realm of asuras, jealous gods. Bardo of birth, living, and dwelling on particular state of being, is based on speed, aggression, and ambition. At the peak point of any experience -- whether passion, hatred, joy, aggression, or insight -- confusion and uncertainty arise, not quite sure if we are learning something or missing something, going mad. Wanting to dwell in, grasp the peak experience, but also doing double take, looking back. One experience includes sanity and madness, not either/or. All bardos contain feeling of both hot and cold water poured on you simultaneously, pain and pleasure, samsara and nirvana, two sides of same coin. Lengthy Q\u0026amp;A, topics include: [Q3] self-observing awareness; carefulness, leading to negative view of what could go wrong, creates paranoia rather than positive state of mind; [Q9] experiential level of madness and sanity; [Q17] surrendering to guru."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/256/017/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1730819902","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1730819867_19710718VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":3569.6065,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/256/017/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1730819902","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/256/017/original/1730819867_19710718VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3?1730819869","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3569.6065,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19710718VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19710718VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Allenspark - The Six States Of Bardo Experience - Talk 4]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on The Six States of Bardo, held in Allenspark, Colorado, in July 1971. This will be talk number four, Bardo Experience in the Realm of the Asuras, July 18th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=0.0,23.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is this straight water?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Straight water.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Straight water. [Laughter; Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I don't know, maybe you should [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: It's straight water.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=23.0,41.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I hope that we had enough informations in connected with the first state of bardo that we discussed yesterday, in terms of world of gods and particular point of eternity or involvement with eternity. That whole idea based on certain kind of spiritual practice, which is based on ego principles. And one tend to get certain… peak point of that spiritual trip is based on not knowing whether you are following the spiritual path or whether you are completely getting mad, freaking out. That's the point of bardo of meditation, or \"samten bardo\", which means \"meditative state of bardo\" -- where that you are not quite certain, because you worked so hard up to the point of getting something, eternal promise, eternal blessing, and you begin to feel something that you're achieving. And at the same time you are not quite certain whether that achievement is something imaginary or something based on self-deception. And that doubt brings the madness, and that conviction is part of the pattern which leads you to the madness, conviction purely based on relating with ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=41.0,208.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And from there, next level-- you see all the time when you talk about bardo principles, all the bardo principles consist of the same analogy that I used yesterday, as though that you are experiencing simultaneously both hot and cold water being poured on you simultaneously. And that's kind of pleasurable and extremely painful at the same time. That continues with all the six types of bardos. But next stage seems continue with the like \"jealous god\", \"asura.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=208.0,258.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"According to the teaching, it is described as like the \"bardo of birth\", \"kye-ne bardo\", the birth and dwelling aspect of the bardo, living and dwelling on particular state of being. Which is again based on speed, in terms of our own individual experiences, as speed, aggression, and that we-- that which brings the speed and it brings the ambition to achieve something. And this case not necessarily meditative state of spiritual practice, but in ordinary everyday life situation. That you put out a certain amount of speed constantly, but yet you are not quite certain you are getting anything out of this speed or whether you are losing something from this speed. There is certain peak point of confusion or hesitation, uncertainty. You see, it's like if you are going too far, if you go really fast and fast, faster and faster -- or probably better to say if you are spinning around faster and faster -- if you're spinned fast enough that you are not quite certain whether you're spinning or not, whether it is stillness or whether it is absolute point of speed that drives you. Absolute speed seems to be stillness. This is again exactly the same point of that uncertain of sanity or madness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=258.0,386.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You see we come to-- all the time we come to this problem when we experience some peak experience of aggression, hatred, passion, or joy, pleasure, insight -- whatever we experience, there is always some kind of uncertainty when you just about to reach to the peak experience or when you got to the experience of peak point. It's though-- as though that you experience both hot and cold water at the same time simultaneously, that kind of uncertainty and fear of freaking out and possibilities of learning something, you're about to get somewhere, which is I'm sure a lot of us have experienced that, it is very simple and experiential thing. And this particular type of bardo, the second aspect of bardo experience, that you experience the birth and dwelling experience, therefore. And this birth and dwelling experience is based on, again as I said, speed, and trust in speed, which is the dwelling experience, which is kye-ne. \"Kye\" means \"birth\" and \"ne\" is \"dwelling\": kye-ne bardo experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=386.0,519.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would like you to get clear perception of the bardo experience, both theoretically as well as experiential level. That particularly those who have experience, or those who have *felt* that they have got into some so-called \"satori\" experience of something, have felt this experience. Always whether they-- not certain whether they have actually achieved something, whether they are just about to freak out. And this kind of very faint line between sanity and insanity is very profound teaching in experience of bardo in Buddhist teaching in general. According to the history, Buddha experience the same experiences. At the very moment of enlightenment that there was both hosts of maras attacking him in aggression as well as trying to seduce him with beautiful girls. And that is the peak point or the moment of experience of bardo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=519.0,619.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You see, the point is that once we have achieved some higher state, so-called higher state, or more profound state of something, the negative aspect or the mara aspect is also equally going to be the exactly the same, and they are more subtle. The subtleties of awakeness is exactly the same as subtleties of sleepness, or confusion. Same kind of subtleties continues all the time, side by side. So therefore the whole idea of the samsara and nirvana are the two sides of coin. They occurred-- they occur on one situation and simultaneously. And this experience happens with us all the time. We don't have to peak experience of dramatic experience, but in ordinary, everyday situation as well. That we are not quite certain whether we are learning something or whether we are missing something. That particular point of the doubt, if you are more paranoid you will think you are missing something, if you are more confident you will think you are learning something. But there is also the awareness of either the learning or missing qualities simultaneously occurred in experiences all the time. This experience is always very common and very obvious in many case, that we don't have to ask any more questions, what is real, what is not real, what is safe and what's not safe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=619.0,744.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Whether you're just about to approach to the safety, then you are not quite certain whether this is really the true safety or not. And there is some faint suspicion of the danger. At the same time you feel tremendous safety. More you feel tremendous safety feeling, more you feel the danger of something, supposing sort of double take takes place all the time, this kind of looking back again. And that's the basic factor and experiential level in connection with the bardo experiences.\r\n\r\n\r\nPerhaps we should have discussion. I shouldn't say too much. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=744.0,790.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: What's a good attitude to take to that ambiguity around [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, at that point you can't control the situation. *You* are the situation. So it depends on technique or practices that you have already gained experience of something, and it is really depend on that. You can't really correct, you change the course at all. And the idea of changing course doesn't occurred at that particular moment because you are so much in the situation. In fact, *you* are the situation rather than situation's something external.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=790.0,846.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Is there any difference between the feeling of confusion and the feeling of confidence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Feeling of...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Feeling of confusion and the feeling of confidence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Differences, did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Is there any difference?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, of course. But it doesn't seem to be, at the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well you said that sometimes you tend to be not so confident, then you feel like paranoid.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's the same thing you're-- the same experience happens exactly the same level. You see, fundamentally, experiential level of... in other word, the perception that we possess is extremely fantastic and possesses all sorts of attributes. It's really fantastic to discover that perception is-- has wide range as well as narrow range and penetrating range, and it is capabilities of seeing hundred things at the same time. That's why things have been referred as wisdom and things have been referred as confusion. You see, that's the very important point. I mean that's really the key point when we talk about madness and when we talk about sanity. That's extremely important thing that everybody should know. That that point is *one* point rather than that you belong to either of the groups. You don't have to belong in order to become madness or in order to become wise or liberated. You don't have to associate or become yourself a part of either of the good or the bad. But you become the *one*. That one possess both good and bad simultaneously. That's very important point in the terms of experience, extremely necessary to know that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=846.0,962.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Whenever that thing happens, I just feel that something's wrong, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you raise your hand?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Whenever something like that happens, a peak experience, and there's a doubt comes in, and it's confusion, and it could go either way, I just feel like there's something wrong. My immediate attitude that I notice right behind that, coming right behind it, is that there's something wrong. And it's like I'm putting judgment on it, and I say that \"once I get more cleaned out,\" or \"if I can see this thing clearer, the peak experience would just be all clear,\" or something like that. Or all pleasure, or all insight, or one of those things. And I always see it as something wrong. In a way, I get from what you're saying is that that will always occur, always, always, always.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it occurs always.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: So there's no sense to expect it to diminish?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, no, I mean, you don't have to make the decision that whether you belong to that group, this group, but you see the-- that situation as it is, and that's the important point. But you can't change that particular situation, that particular type of situation at all. Only you can divert that situation is some kind of chain process that you impose your experience prior to that, like becoming familiar with sanity, or equally same way becoming familiar with madness or insanity. Either ways are safe and instructive, and either of them could be said as insight. And then, one-pointedness automatically switch you onto the awake state or enlightened state automatically.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Is that awake state then somehow free of doubt?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somehow what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Is that awake state free of that doubt or that uncertainty?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, of course that-- the reason why it is free of doubt is because there is so much reinforcement that you have already worked with before that experience. You are quite familiar with what you are-- what you've gone through.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut I would like to say something else in this particular point, is that when we talk about self-awareness, self-consciousness, self-observing, and somehow that self- observing awareness is negative. Quite possibly that kind of carefulness, when you're trying to work on self-observing or self-awareness in the terms of self-consciousness way, then you are-- the reason why you're being self-conscious or self-awareness is purely trying to ward off the danger, sort of conservative attitude. In the general philosophical conservatism, you don't think what's go right, what could go right with you, what is best thing for you to do, but often the inspiration of conservatism starts from what could go wrong with you, what's bad thing to do. And then because of that you give guidance to other people, from conservative way, saying that \"I am trying to talk to you in terms of safe and sound, that what you're doing is not a mistake.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSo the first statement comes from negative, \"What you are doing is not mistake, and accordance with this I'm giving you instructions or recommendations.\" And that kind of is the fundamental basic subtlety of self-awareness, is self-awareness not looking at the positive and healthy aspect of that state of mind but constantly aggravating the negative, what-could-go-wrong state of mind. And that could pile up in the process of path. And quite likelihood is when the person is in peak state of mind of both sanity and insanity happens simultaneously, then immediate first [snaps fingers] flicker of mind reflects back naturally of course what's bad, and that sense of paranoia, then you could flip back to madness. Sounds quite dangerous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=962.0,1282.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Do you have to be a warrior, and you just have to go right into it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You had to be what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: A warrior.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Warrior.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Warrior.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Warrior.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Warrior.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. SPEAKER6: I guess--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think in a way that you are willing to see the creative aspect rather than negative aspect. This whole process is sort of going along rather than looking backward in each step.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=1282.0,1316.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Is this doubt a result of a sense-- an impending sense that the peak experience is going to deteriorate and return to a less profound state of consciousness? Or it is a result of a sense that perhaps the peak experience won't end and you won't return to a less profound [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don't think you would return. Once you had it, you had it. I mean that doesn't mean to say there will be only one peak experience. There will be succession of peak experience happening all the time, which happens with us anyway all the time. I'm not talking purely theoretical aspect, but in our own experience of everyday life there is some flashes happens all the time, peak experiences.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But is the doubt a result of worrying about not maintaining the peak experience, or worrying about not being able to get away from the peak experience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, doubt is not able to match yourself with prescribed goal. Whenever there's doubt, that you also have ideal concept of the absence of doubt, which is the goal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=1316.0,1401.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Is this peak experience between sanity and insanity ever resolved by what's known as surrender or an openness to the guru?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's known as what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Surrender, or openness to the guru or something like that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I would say both yes and no. You see at that very moment nobody can save you, but at the same time, that very moment, things could be inspired, somebody could push you overboard. I mean both situations are possible. But fundamentally nobody can save you. You have to make your own commitment to the situation, that's for sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well then there's no surrender.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Surrendering is early on. If you surrender, that means that you are associating yourself with the positive experiences and you are not trying to hold back and being careful and conservative attitude as be saying. Surrendering to guru is very positive thing, and therefore it proceeds with inspiration rather than holding back and checking the danger. You see, the idea of the term \"surrender\" is just once you surrender, that's the whole thing. You don't surrender because of something. Surrendering to the guru is quite different from insurance policy. In case of insurance policy, you would write down a list of all sorts of dangers, until up to the point of will of God-- or what's it called, act of God. [Laughter] Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8:[INAUDIBLE] visualize, I just don't know what's happening next [INAUDIBLE], I'm just going to take it as it came.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I don't know what's going to happen next so I just, you know, let it come, whatever it is.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Next? Next means what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I don't know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Next after...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=1401.0,1558.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: You talked about the nirvanic and the samsaric world as being co-existent. And autobiographically speaking, I am very much aware of that in certain chemical states--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNPGA RINPOCHE: Certain what state?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Chemical states, where the reality of the world or physics reveals to me the world of wave patterns and whirling molecules and whatnot become a great reality to me and in which all my conceptions disappear, because there are none of my senses react anymore to the reality which I then somehow become a part of. Now this, seems to me, what this world and modern physics have revealed to us very often is equated with the nirvanic state, where really you as an ego, as a separate item, cannot exist. However, I also fail to experience the deep [UNCLEAR: path?] in the role of a human. I will always decay into or decay or change over into the world in which my senses take predominance, and where again I see you as a figure and not as a force field. And this is inevitable and I've never felt the fear people talk so much about, that the loss of ego is so frightening. The resumption to an egohood seems to me inevitable at the state where I am. So while I glance, I can never be lost.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. [Laughter] What is the question?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Do you see the nirvanic state as I described it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, nirvana-- state of nirvana, freedom, cannot be described in anywhere. If you're trying to describe it then you are involved with some wishful thinking of some kind than natural reality, because immediate when you begin to describe, you are separating experience from experiencer. And nirvana is something not-- something quite different from that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: But somebody still said he had seen, nirvana so he must have been aware of something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, definitely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well, then there-- the split then remains into nirvana. Or as you come out of nirvana there is a moment where your senses react to the state-- to the high state you've been in and say that \"I come from nirvana.\" [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, once you got into it, you are in it already, you can't come out of it. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=1558.0,1799.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Is there only one bardo experience associated with each world, like, well the birth and dwelling bardo in the world of the asuras, or is it possible to have you know any of the bardo experiences in any of the worlds?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yes, like I've been saying yesterday, bardo experience associated with the world of gods, and today we been talking about connected with the world of asura, jealous gods, and its speed of wanting to give birth, want to take birth and dwelling on it. And each experience is somehow connected with each sphere so to speak of world.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: So there's only one-- what, there's one-to-one correspondence between bardos and worlds then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, but these corresponding experience happens irregular style with one's own experience happens all the time. You may begin with hell and you may also continue with the world of human beings. World of human beings could go back to world of preta, the hungry ghost, and so on. This could happen continuously. But whole point that I'm trying to make is the bardo experience is that peak experience where you are not quite certain whether you are completely gone mad or you are just about to receive something. And that particular peak point is the bardo experience. And bardo experience cannot be resolved unless there is training in a continual life situation of practice of meditation, and accordance with the practice of meditation, putting the skillful actions of bodhisattva into practice, that you cannot have complete bardo experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=1799.0,1911.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Rinpoche, what is madness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's a good question.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: What was the question?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is madness? Well, in the experiential level, madness is-- begins with some kind of confusion between reality-- experience of reality and experience of perceiver of the reality, conflicts between the two. Then further on, that one tend to go on with that confusion and try to discover ultimate answer to pinpoint down what is reality, what is perceiver of the reality. One tried and one struggled more and more, until up to the point that you cannot discover, unless you give up the idea of existence of experiencer and experience. And that level that you're so overwhelmed by such experiences, and you could pretend to yourself all sorts of way of convincing yourself -- either trying to rationalize that there is such thing as self and me, and things outside is dangerous or seductive, and me as rightful person to experience that. Or on the other hand that you begin to feel that you are out of control, then you become ultimately mad, you are so much confused what is experiencer and what is experience. Then the whole thing is completely amalgamated into one or many.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt's confusion between one and many, that you don't have earth-grounding process of seeing \"that\" opposed to \"this\" anymore at all, because whole thing is so overwhelming. And you are completely sucked into it and you get all sorts of experience of being claustrophobic because whole situation around you are so overwhelming. And you experience paranoia because overwhelming experience could trying to suffocate you, trying to destroy you, trying to destroy the experiencer. And at the same time that you would like to act as though nothing's happened, and you begin to play game of deaf and dumb, that you heard but actually you never heard of it. And all sorts of hundreds of millions of tactics begin to develop because of this overwhelming suddenness, this overwhelming crowdedness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Is it possible to achieve enlightenment without becoming mad?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we are mad anyway, [laughter] in different degrees. We may not become completely mad, unless you are maniac of something, a religious maniac [laughter] or political maniac, whatever it is.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Lose control of the situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Lose control of the situation, yeah. You-- we have this sort of medium madness all the time going on, with the possibility is absolute madness. You see, that's the samsara *is* madness. And that which is not madness is called \"enlightenment.\" [Laughter] Because there is such idea as madness exist, therefore the-- that which is not madness is automatically enlightenment. So if you-- once you begin to talk about enlightenment, freedom, that means that you are speaking in terms of madness. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=1911.0,2205.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Rinpoche, it seems one thing you're saying is--\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Louder with the question.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: It seems one thing you're saying is that when you approach this peak experience of the bardo, if you're not prepared for it, if you're not-- if you haven't got a groundwork of preparation for it, it's too sudden and you go mad. Is this what you're saying?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that seem to be the point, yes. That's why the whole idea of why we mention bardo at all, because it is connected with the teachings, it is connected with the path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=2205.0,2245.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Could you describe the bardo of-- in the asura world again? Because like I don't have any feeling for that at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it is trying to give birth and trying to dwell on it, suddenly, at the peak experience. That you trying to give false issue of situations and trying to push your situations, because you're about to reach some experience and that experience is being pushed by certain effort, extreme effort, and you would like to retain that particular effort.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: You mean like a woman trying to give birth and trying to keep the baby at the same time?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exactly, yeah. It's so much of action consciousness-- action conscious.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Is it any sense of a feeling of having too much energy, like an exploding--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Too much energy, yes--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Too much energy.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --because the ground where the-- this particular bardo of birth and dwelling, bardo of birth and dwelling is on the realm of asura, is altogether whole environment is very much of action conscious, all the time rushing; but you get more than that action, state of asura level, you get peak experience of you have to push yourself into some particular peak experience, and you would like to hold onto it, grasp that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=2245.0,2358.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: If you see somebody sort of going crazy, is there anything you can do, or should you just leave them alone? Or they might be destroying themselves or trying to destroy others. Or you feel it's like somebody's really holding back because he really needs to do it. You know you just see him-- what do you say you can do for someone?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you can do great deal. I mean to start with, better not do anything at all. And not try to use any system of psychological schools or concepts of anything Freudian or Jungian or whatever it's may be. Or Buddhist or Christian. You see, that's one of the problems that when we come across with somebody who is absolutely mad, that immediate thing is we try to *do* something with them, rather than trying to understand the basic ground. So you have to allow yourself space and not be completely situation's be controlled by them. And you should allow space and not associated with any category of philosophical or psychological school. Not analyze at all -- that's the last thing you would like to do. That's been wrong anything-- that's the source of what's been wrong in the past. And not trying to fit into pigeonholes of that category or this category, but open mind and relate with the situations of the moment of the person, as well as background of the person as well. As well as *your* state of relationship with however-- how much that situation is your imagination, or whether it is actual existing situation independent of your experience, your imagination.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd then from that level, once you get clear perception of it, then you can proceed and relate with the person. But you can do great deal because generally madness is ultimate concept of frustration of something, and frustration needs to be worked with or communicated, some kind of external situations. Even though the person who is in a state of madness is appear to be completely, absolutely incommunicative, absolutely going wild. It might appear to be that. But at the same time, the wildness is depend on the external situations or internal situations of mind which is be sparked up by external situations. So nothing is could be said completely impersonal. So in other word, not relate that person is impersonal thing, but something still living and something continuing. And that way that you be able to relate with the person and go along with the situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd main important point is not to be too compassionate or gentle, or not to be too aggressive. I mean these little details couldn't be just generalized, but depends on individual situations, that one should be aware of the idiot compassion aspect of being too kind. And also one-- at the same time one should be aware of that your trip is putting on the other person, which is individual matter and one should work along with it. But one can do great deal to help them. And there is a moment where the person should be let them to be what they are, and also there will be a moment that the person shouldn't let them do what they are. And that is individual inspiration, how you relate with that person. That's also depend on how much space you allowed at the beginning of the time and that you didn't rush immediately.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Like I saw somebody wanting to, you know, put their hand in fire and prove that they could withstand pain, and it was a thing for me to just watch their hand sort of swell up like a marshmallow. [Laughs] And then I had to say, \"No, you can't do that.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean you use your basic, sort of-- what you call? What's it called?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Common sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, common sense. [Laughter, laughs] I mean, you see, actually there is particular type of mentality involved with person who are dealing with people like that is whole thing is regarded as a game, and one would analyze every activities with this person and appreciating it, the symbolism quality and letting do what is like, completely letting do what the person like. And somehow that's too much self-indulgency, and one should use some common sense on the process, definitely, of course.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn other word, one should not expect any miracles. If person said he couldn't feel heat and his hand is invincible, that is person trying to imagine more than what is quite possibly he would like to-- he would like to become what he imagined he should be rather than what he is. And one should realize that situation. It's the earth-grounding quality is very important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=2358.0,2746.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: How can you respond when a maniac attacks you, is attacking you?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you can stop it. Well, I don't know the general situation, but you have to deal with individually. Whether person is attacking in order to get some reaction from you or whether person is attacking because he would like to release himself. It's depend on situations.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Sometimes they attack without knowing why they attack because they are in a crisis, whatever it's called.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They are in?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: In a crisis. In-- there are some people-- I have known one person who is normal most of the time, [laughter] but... Well, she works, actually and she's a hundred percent normal, what is called normal anyway, so that she can work a full working day. But in periods of sometimes of maybe three years pass and she gets what her doctors call a crisis. I don't know what it is, but she can scream and she can sometimes just run out of the house without-- and it's very difficult to catch her, without I suppose knowing it herself because she doesn't remember many of the things when she is again well.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: So in this case, I mean you can't say you respond according to what the person wants, because not only you don't know what the person wants, even the person doesn't know what they want.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seem that you must have some knowledge of the person as person is, in any case. Unless somebody just you met in that very moment in the street.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: This is a friend of mine.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: This is a friend of mine I am talking about.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, if the person is a friend, then there will be some idea of state of mind of the person in any case.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Not if the person is a really sort of [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily person have to be insane, but his aspect of sanity and his particular way of handling himself in terms of sanity.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: No, but this is a case that she is completely out-- I mean she is-- she goes to hospital. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] She has to go to hospital. I mean she-- [laughter] she is completely out of herself, in that she can awake in the middle of the night and do anything, and if she doesn't go to hospital she might kill herself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite unlikely. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Well, in this case, I mean, how can you deal with the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you can deal with the given situation. If you are friend then there must be some understanding of her, not necessarily from technical point of view of psychiatrist, but you can deal with that particular aspect and go along with it. You *can* deal with it, of course. It is exaggerated aspect of the normal-- normality of the person. So you deal along with that situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: But then sometimes you have to use violence [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, you can.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: But it's not-- you're not supposed to do, I mean-- [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNPGA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean that's also depend on situation. I don't mean to say you have to be completely gentle all the time, that's another weak point of trying to be too kind. In fact, a person need reminders shaking back, it's violence in this case, reminder of violence of sanity -- of course, presuming that at the same time that *you* are, who is going to work with her, also is sane as well. [Laughs] One have to use the sane kind of violence, but not insane violence. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=2746.0,3003.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: What happens if you're the one who's really feeling crazy? If you're the person that feels out of control. Some kind of like you don't know quite how to handle a situation, and you just feel that there's a lot of fear and everything, and you just don't know how-- just how to react or how to do anything, you know? What do you do when you find yourself in that situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean you don't have to purely live on your dream world how to deal with your imaginary and neurosis with yourself. But you have something else to relate yourself with, that is actual physical world outside. And if you are going too far, your physical world will act you as reminder. And I mean, that's very important point, that is the only way to deal with oneself is your relationship with the actual physical world outside. Therefore, body is very important in this case, human life.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Sometimes you begin-- sometimes you begin seeing things out of the physical world that aren't there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Hallucinating.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, then it means that you are not seeing the physical world as it is, completely. One should take a second look. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=3003.0,3106.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: What is openness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Openness is without paranoia, I suppose, to begin with. Is you don't have to put barrier or boundary of your territory -- that in your territory others be welcomed as well. That doesn't mean to say person have to be absolutely polite, diplomatic, and become acting. But it's genuine kind of welcoming, act of welcoming, that your territory is not defensive territory, but it's open territory that anyone can walk on to it. By doing that automatically the other person would be able to walk into it without putting any territory of his own type.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=3106.0,3164.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Do you-- in terms of the experience of bardo in relation to awakened state, I was-- development up to the peak experience that you were talking about, you get an on-off kind of confusion about it, paranoid-confident kind of thing growing. And then if you become more familiar with the elements of that peak experience as you-- they become your friends more and more you get to know them, whether it's an emotion or some kind of insight, whatever it is. You said then when you get more friends with them then you could possibly have some awakened feeling about the experience more than... And what I wanted to know is that if in the awakened state if you have that familiarity, you feel a little bit clear about these experiences when they happen, does-- is there a bardo experience possible in the awakened state? I'm trying to understand bardo more.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well in awakened state there will be experiences of the kind of essence of the bardo experience, which is the constant act of compassion, which is a continue unloosening process.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Loosening?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: A loosening process, either in terms of other person or yourself, is taking place all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: So that's like on the other side of loosening coming-- getting more space or opening more--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, natural process, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: So like is the bardo always like moving from one experience to another? [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, mhmm. Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=3164.0,3265.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Could you speak further on the difference between surrender to the guru and a life insurance or an insurance policy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, insurance policy automatically talks of what could go wrong and you are guard against it. Insurance policy often talks about a guardian. In other word, sort of exorcising danger. In case of surrendering to the guru experience is not so much of the danger aspect, but the danger could be also transmuted into creative relationships and everything what comes in the pattern is continual creative process. Both negative and positive could be used as stepping stone on the path, which the guru could point out to you, as long as you didn't try to hide from the guru. That's ultimate meaning of surrendering, is surrendering all aspect of yourself to the guru, and then you learn from that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017#t=3265.0,3342.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138129/file/256017/transcript/72340/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think perhaps we should close.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: What does self-defense answer at all if the idea of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Self what?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Openness and generosity. Self-- well I don't know if it's the right word.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Self-defense or... it seems to me from my personal experience that sometimes, not often, but there is sometimes a certain point that there is a… boundary between generosity or openness and self-defense.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's a boundary between openness?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Yeah, I mean that there is-- there are sometimes cases that you can't be generous or you shouldn't be generous without-- you can't be generous without hurting either yourself or both yourself and the other person.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Hmm. Well, you see the idea-- general idea is that if you open yourself, in terms of what given situation is, then you see the situation completely naked quality. That you don't have to put a defensive mechanism at all anymore because you see through them and you know exactly what to do, and you just deal with them rather than defending yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: But if-- but then the feeling might be that you had to refuse to somebody something or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, yes. That doesn't mean to say openness doesn't necessarily mean that you have to all the time make yourself available to the other person. But openness is knowing the situation, either in terms of if it's healthy and helpful to the other person to involve yourself with them, or else it is healthy situation not to involve yourself and show this kind of commitment is not healthy for the other person. It works both ways. Openness this case doesn't mean you have to take everything in, at all. 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