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Whereas everything we experience is marked by impermanence, in life we try and maintain sense of self in attempt make things seem permanent. Striving for survival a fundamental problem, as avoiding reality of impermanence. Describes fickleness of everything: thoughts, emotions, experience. To realize nonexistence of self important to understanding Tibetan Book of the Dead. Misconception is that bardo experience is chance to continue ourselves; instead, everything is marked by impermanence, transparency. Death as a constant in our lives too, every moment; making friends with that is key to understanding Tibetan Book of the Dead and egolessness. In Q\u0026amp;A, fields many questions about nature of death, bardo; describes meditation as practice of getting in touch with, familiar with discontinuity.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eNov 22 2018 to Dec 08 2023 Transcribing: Daniel Nguyen Checking: Travis May Final Proof: Travis May, Anne Seidlitz Terminology Review: Matilda Perks Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAbout the connections between impermanence and egolessness, in life and bardo experience. Whereas everything we experience is marked by impermanence, in life we try and maintain sense of self in attempt make things seem permanent. Striving for survival a fundamental problem, as avoiding reality of impermanence. Describes fickleness of everything: thoughts, emotions, experience. To realize nonexistence of self important to understanding Tibetan Book of the Dead. Misconception is that bardo experience is chance to continue ourselves; instead, everything is marked by impermanence, transparency. Death as a constant in our lives too, every moment; making friends with that is key to understanding Tibetan Book of the Dead and egolessness. In Q\u0026amp;A, fields many questions about nature of death, bardo; describes meditation as practice of getting in touch with, familiar with discontinuity.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/219/751/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1702357048","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1702357024_19730706VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":2314.97138,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/219/751/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1702357048","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/219/751/original/1702357024_19730706VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3?1702357026","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2314.97138,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730706VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19730706VCTR1 - Public Seminar - RMDC - Tibetan Book of the Dead II - Talk 2]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled Tibetan Book of the Dead II, given at the Rocky Mountain Dharma Center, in Red Feather Lakes, Colorado. This is Talk 2 given on July 6th, 1973. This is a CTI Auto Remaster made November 2023.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=0.0,32.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I thought perhaps that we could discuss about the meaning of impermanence tonight. Those are all related with hinayana’s approach to the Tibetan Book of the Dead, is understanding the meaning of impermanence, as well as trying to understand the meaning of egolessness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=32.0,70.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, from the point of view of egolessness, that basic life situation, such as being born, raised, educated, getting into the world, relate with the work, relate with the parents, and the marriage, and sickness, and death, and everything that we experience our life, contains the *fundamental* meaning of egolessness. But at the beginning, I would like to refer -- I would to make clear that when-- what I mean by \"ego\". That in this case ego is something that maintains itself, maintains its security: trying to survive, trying to live, in spite of its pain and discomforting situations. To be alive cost a lot of energy to try to convince oneself that you do exist, and therefore there’s nothing to be afraid of. But, at the same time there’s a glimpse of-- flashes of experience that maybe you do not exist. Maybe all those things are expressions of non-existence. Could be said as expression of egolessness. Which is not particularly a very positive thing, if you look at it from a very conventional point of view. Have develop-- developing *self-centered* notion, of knowing who you are, and getting jobs, becoming successful in the business, and so forth, if you pointed out that way, that egolessness is tremendous *threat*, rather than help.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=70.0,243.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But because that our primitive belief on ego is so extreme, in many ways, that we would like to be constantly entertained, constantly secured, again and again. And we begin to find that we’re *obsessed* with our existence, we’re *obsessed* with our health, we’re *obsessed* with our survival. We’re obsessed with maintaining ourselves; that’s been the problem. That’s the source of all the neurosis that developed in our life situation, is the problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=243.0,296.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And all the problems are not based on purely that we have egomaniac tendencies. But we have problems of seeing that our ego doesn’t cover all that areas we would like to cover. Therefore we begin to find our ego trip becomes heavily concentrated patches all over. And boundaries of those patches uncovered, not looked at. So therefore the panic begins at the patches, the boundary of the patches. So there’s constantly experience of egohood happens our life situation. Which is also expression of death, of course, that there is a sense of you are not able to survive, you are not able to *be*, as much as you wanted to be. That there’s that problem at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=296.0,368.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If we view ourselves very simply, directly, if we looked at ourselves directly, simply, we find ourselves have no substance, literally: that basically, fundamentally, completely we do not have any basic substance -- as personality, existence, life credentials. That we are impossible, that we cannot inherit such credential, and we cannot have I.D. cards. If we speaking of \"my existence,\" that we do not exist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=368.0,414.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It’s quite simple one. It’s not a mystery, it’s not a mystical experience, or a philosophical, metaphysical understanding or discovery. That simply, we do not exist. Because we have no basis. That our approach of continuing our life situation is made out of fickleness of our emotions, thought process, which is seemingly supposed to be a continual process, but that continuity is made out of *discontinuity*, of diminishing the first experience, trying to reignite the next experience. And trying to refer the previous experience as past memory, which confirms your present existence. And you hope for the best of the future. [laughter] That you constantly go on that way. So we have no real basic credentials that we do *really* exist, at all. Our -- that’s very factual, that’s very definite. And, in fact, it’s not worth trying to introduce the argument, the other side, that we do exist. That seem to become fruitless to even try to prove that, our existence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=414.0,500.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The non-existence of ourselves plays important part to understand the Tibetan Book of the Dead, from hinayana point of view. That everything’s spacious, as transparent, non-existence, fickleness, whatever you like to relate with. That there’s no *really* basic substance we can hang on to anything at all, in the ordinary level, spiritual level, or whatever level you want to relate with. That even the eternity of spiritual promise, if you relate with ego, ego’s language, that we cannot have such thing as longevity of eternity, as such. That we are completely broke down, reduced into dust.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=500.0,553.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that is understanding of meaning of death, or impermanence. Is that we have to maintain ourselves, because we are constantly living in now. And now had to be maintained constantly by the dead now of the past, that your nowness being dead. Therefore your memories of the *past* nowness is presented as your proof or credential of you do exist now because you had a past, and your future is invited because you will have wishful thinking that you will exist, and you're now exist, therefore there is some future does exist. And the whole thing is a level of purely hypothetical, *highly* hypothetical level that we do not have any substance, basic being, at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=553.0,606.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that seem to be one of the basic point of this approach, that we have to understand our death is not being a *physical* death that’s one day is going to happen to us, alone. But we are dying constantly, we are being born constantly, at the same time. That birth, death plays important part *all* the time. That particles of our life cease to exist and the next particles of our being begin to be born out of nothingness. And then that gives wishful thinking of a future does exist to us. And understanding egolessness is that, also understanding the meaning of impermanence at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=606.0,669.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seem to be very interesting discuss the bardo experience of that particular approach. “Bardo”, as I mentioned last night, means “in-between,” the intermediate time that we go through ourselves, between birth and death. And that is why the bardo experience in the Tibetan Book of the Dead are made to be one of the important point of view. Because it’s very important, therefore, that we should try to understand it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=669.0,707.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And bardo experience is that a moment of our death of present existence occurred, and that point there is no time to renew our past memories, yet. And we are trying to-- hypothetically trying to clutch onto the future possibilities. Nobody knows how it’s going to be. So there is gap, there is some kind of gap in our state of being, which is unknown to us, from ego’s logic. That there is a gap, there’s openness of unconditional openness, which could be a one-thousandth of a second, or a fraction of second, whatever. *Sudden* glimpse of experience that we experience -- that we experience all the time. As we-- our thought process dies, new thought process comes up, and that death takes place, that birth takes place, that gap takes place. And that particular gap that there is, is referred as \"bardo\" experience. Which is experience of-- in the Tibetan Book of the Dead, is referred as a \"clear light\". And the reason why it’s clear light is because that there is sense of precision, there’s sense of luminous. That although we do not know what we’re going to be, how we’re going to handle our next moment. But at the same time there’s a sense of precision, sense of intelligence happening. And that seem to be the basic approach towards... sudden glimpse of our buddha nature, or whatever you like to call it. Happens constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=707.0,827.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, as you see that in order understand the Tibetan Book of the Dead, that we should really understand *real* meaning of life and death before we get into the tantra iconography, or symbolism or whatever. That we have to become friend with ourselves to begin with so that death is constantly alive. Alive is constantly dying. That that simple truth is extremely important to know. So that we do not have chance to hypothesize, dream up all kinds of new logic or trying to work into some extraordinary logic, that we have achieved our continuity, eternity of life, or anything like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=827.0,879.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As I have discussed last night, that basically that what we’re trying to do is that we, by seeking spiritual discipline, or contemplating, meditating on spiritual discipline, and try to attain enlightenment is simple, share, human, or, in fact ape quality of trying to *survive* ourselves so that we don’t have to experience death. Maybe there is sudden spiritual gadget which will save us. That we will be regarded as a eternal person because we have managed to trick the death. That we associate ourselves with enlightened being. And all those experience, all those ideas, that had once Westerners are so excited to hear the doctrine of reincarnation, which was extremely promising for them, they could keep on being, as they want to be. Such dreams shattered, or ought to be shattered. [Laughs]. That is necessary to be shattered, because otherwise we are getting into the false impression of that trying to associate ourselves with openness and enlightenment is seeking eternity of our ego-hood -- constantly, constantly, continuing, being -- which is entirely misunderstanding.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=879.0,974.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So therefore, the very simple, basic truth of egolessness is very important to realize or understand. Perhaps I shouldn’t talk too much about that. And you could ask me questions about -- or we could have a discussions together on the subject of egolessness, of its simplicity and its directness. And anybody like to ask questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=974.0,1005.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: If someone dies, who dies?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You die. I die. But the discontinuity is not dead. The *dis*-continuity is undead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=1005.0,1042.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is there twofold egolessness of people and ourselves and things?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We made things. So we are the things.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But in terms of, like, to develop our understanding of reality, is there a traditional separation of examining, from the hinayana approach, our egolessness and egolessness of other people and objects?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean, they are regarded as part of our manufactured world, from hinayana’s point of view. Like going through the twelve nidana process. That world is manufactured by us.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So is that the same egolessness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that there’s two types of egolessness, in fact. One is called egolessness of the personality, another is egolessness of the manifestation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Do they amount to the same egolessness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, definitely, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well, then if manifestations are egolessness, but there’s a-- form is form. Why wouldn’t that-- if form is form applies to the manifestations and you can throw away all conceptualizations about form, like egolessness, why can’t you do that about yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can. [Laughter] Sure you can. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=1042.0,1135.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: In Buddha’s wheel of dharma -- is that it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Dharma, wheel of dharma...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Dharma?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah. You know that? [Laughter]. I mean... [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Like wheel of [UNCLEAR: door?]. He concentrated on reincarnation, I think.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I think he concentrated on reincarnation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He? Quanta?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Concentrated.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Concentrated on reincarnation?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yes, in the wheel of-- wheel of dharma.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Wheel of dharma? The Wheel of Life you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. No, I mean, it’s not a question of introducing a new topic, or introduce new ideas. But reincarnation-- I prefer to call it rebirth. But when we talk about \"reincarnation\" in English language, which means that there is a continual soul that pass through, and is living being, is constant alive and being lived. But I prefer to call it discontinuity, or rebirth. And rebirth is become part of the integral teachings of Buddhism. That because nothing can be regarded as continuity, therefore, discontinuity *is* continuity.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: But what part of a human being is reborn?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What part of a human being is reborn? You talk about rebirth.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Depends on your characteristics. If you are animal-type human being, you reborn as animal. Mosquito... or pig. [laughter] You know, snake, so forth. Whereas you have-- you develop human-type dog, and human-type snake, you become human your next life. I mean that’s-- it depends on your level of intelligence, you see what I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah. Your mind, you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.[laughter] Your mind, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, how does a snake develop human-like qualities? [INAUDIBLE] at that level. How--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You’re asking me? [laughter; applause] It seems all animals have anthropomorphic being in themselves. And that is equally, you know, applicable to human being, as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=1135.0,1360.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: What makes you think that there is any rebirth? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because I see you are alive. You had your grey hair, few months ago, you have -- still having right now. And you’re being dead and born at the same time. So, I see you’ll be dead and born again and again, many times. Even right now, our conversation is happening, you’re dying and you’re being born at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: What I mean is that is there anything that is within me now, whatever it could be, that will be reborn?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: --after I die?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you seem to be doing pretty good job [laughter] of rebirth of yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=1360.0,1426.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I think Chinese Buddhists and Taoists, their theory of reincarnation was that once you evolved through rebirth to the human plane, you didn’t fall back into the other realms. But those realms still describe psychological states that you had as a human being, in your rebirth as a human being. When you talk about being reborn as an animal, is that what you mean? Or do you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean, when are you reborn as animal, a real animal.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: A real animal?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: A real kangaroo or real... [laughter; laughs] marsupial. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=1426.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: When you talk about living and dying in this moment, is that somehow connected to the [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: We can’t hear your question.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --the breath?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I mean that’s the precisely-- you know, there’s alternative situations. That birth and death happening, each time, all the time, that we live.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: In each breath that you take?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=1470.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, with regard to security, when--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you raise your voice because the people on the other end would like to hear.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Okay. This is with regard to security. When one loses one’s job or something crumbles, and the panic sets in, and we strive to find some replacement for what we’ve just lost, what would be Buddhist practice of dealing with that type of high energy, paranoid situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would say purely go along with the panic. And rather that you wanted to be saved from your panic. And relate with that panic as a workable situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: How? 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Is-- in fact, meditation is reviewing your troops of discontinuity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=1558.0,1590.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Is the idea of meditating also to be conscious of the gap, in-between?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not-- I mean if you’re trying to be conscious of it, then you’re regarding as a foreign element. 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[Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ask yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I never met anybody that killed themselves.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You might attempted yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I mean, they killed their body, [INAUDIBLE] end their life.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It’s saying the same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: No, but could you explain, how you can be *sure* that there isn’t some extra element added in? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think for sure there’s extra element added in, of course, because they have no body.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: No?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But still, it’s the same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: How do you know?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because we’re waiting.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Pardon? \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Waiting. \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Waiting?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: For what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: For the answer. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I don’t get that. [laughter] You see, you explain it as very matter of fact, but then it gets very mystical. And beyond that, is it something that we just have to take on -- believe your word, believe what you say about it --until you get some--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you don’t have to believe my word, particularly. But physical death is not changing any attitudes at all. It’s like if we’ve gone through accident, car crash we had, we regain our conscious in hospital, it’s saying the same thing. That there’s continuity.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Do you remember having been dead, physically?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Physically?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. I think everybody does.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: What’s it like?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That’s not regarded as a mystical experience, particularly. I’m sure everybody does.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=1656.0,1813.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: How is the length of time that one is in a bardo state, how does that affect one’s rebirth?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it depends on how much you around to hang on to your present existence. And that familiarity or that habitual pattern had to be worn out. And then you begin to have a sense of you had previous existence as is that you had association with your garbage. And you begin to dislike it, then you are attracted to a [UNCLEAR: next? nice?] clean, absolute birth. That goes on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: In other words, the Tibetan Book of the Dead seems to imply that you have your chance for rebirth immediately after death, and you can let yourself be reborn right then. Or you can wait until the next day, or they say the sixth day, the forty-ninth day or whatever.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it’s--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: On the other hand, in an all-day sitting, it seems like the longer you’re dead, the better rebirth you get.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean whole thing depends on heightens of your neurosis. That how much regard as a hallucination or how much is regarded as experience of reality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=1813.0,1902.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: When you say so categorically and definitely that we don’t exist, it leaves me sitting here trying to figure out *how* I don’t exist. And I-- and I’m so *here* that I have to figure that, if I don’t exist, I also don’t *not* exist. Would that be true?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. 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Which is from hinayana’s point of view that discontinuity’s some entity that goes on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: And then it’s another kind of the same thing that you were talking about--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In some way yeah, you could say that you know, your car crashed, and you can’t use that car anymore, but your insurance still continues, so it can buy another car. [Laughter] And I think at that point we have to come to the mahayana point of view, which probably I’ll be discussing at a later day. Tomorrow, the day after, whatever. And it will clear out a lot of that-- this-- all of that continuing of problems, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=1923.0,1997.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: If there’s a continuity that continues after you die, does that mean that what we consider like the psychological aspects of our being and emotions and things, they’re not dependent on the body? Like the body dies but those things keep going? Like thoughts?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well, discontinuity is constantly happening. Because you are not out of this particular universe. There’s still time and space, that you are conditioned by it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=1997.0,2032.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Is there any implication of evolution in rebirth? Like if you-- in, like there’s a-- is there any inference that there’s a *drive* to more and more realization, in humanity at any rate? So that would there be any reason to look at the condition of the race now, as compared to some thousands of years back, from what sense we have--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we have done that already. And we’re doing it in any case. And that is one of the hopeful situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: I’m not sure, are you saying that there is an evolution?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean we are doing that, in any case. That’s one of the very hopeful situations happens in our life, is that there is constant learning and developing process happening. That as we go along that there is more intelligent things happening our life, in our *lives*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: In other words, you’re saying that the human race is at a higher level than it was in the past?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure. Definitely, yeah. I mean they are more cynical, and they are more scientific.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=2032.0,2115.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: I would like to know where the ego -- speaking of egolessness again -- where the ego leaves off? Like if I--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean -- I can’t hear you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: I’d like to know where the ego stops. That if I’m conscious of anything other than what I would consider \"me,\" is that my ego? If I’m like experiencing just a nice consciousness, but then I become aware of something, is that part of my ego, that thing I've become aware of that is separate? That I still--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. Yeah, I think so.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: But if I considered it part of myself, would it no longer be my ego? If I was one with it, if I was with it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well if you become one with it, then you begin to realize you don’t have any security, grounds to stand on anymore. That you feel you are threatened. At that point, you begin to experience egolessness, because you are threatened.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=2115.0,2184.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: You told me once that there was nothing wrong with trying to survive, after a friend of mine committed suicide. And I thought, as opposed to him, I wanted to survive. And I don’t understand, what’s right or wrong with that? What’s wrong with trying to survive? What’s wrong with survival?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nothing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Oh, so what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure... [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Okay. [laughter] Well, what’s wrong with--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But what next?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Huh?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But what next?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Well, what’s the difference between trying to die and trying to survive?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That’s precisely doing the same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: So it comes down to trying. Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: So what about trying?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Trying to commit suicide or trying to live.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Yeah, trying something or other.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Well, if you don’t try then what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Your guess is as good as mine. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Well, what’s your guess?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: What’s your guess? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: My guess is: so what? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=2184.0,2286.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62579/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ladies and gentlemen, we’re going to close our meeting tonight, at this point. So you should get good sleep tonight, so you’ll be vigorous tomorrow. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Why? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why not? [Laughter] Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=2286.0,2314.97138"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62580","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730706VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62580/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE:\nThis is the Venerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=1.13,3.57"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62580/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"public seminar entitled\nTibetan Book of the Dead II,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=4.68,9.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62580/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given at the Rocky Mountain\nDharma Center,\nin Red Feather Lakes, Colorado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=9.74,14.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62580/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is Talk 2\ngiven on July 6th, 1973.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=15.68,20.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62580/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a CTI Auto Remaster\nmade November 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tonight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=34.11,38.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62580/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Those are all related\nwith hinayana’s approach","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=42.34,49.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62580/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to the Tibetan Book\nof the 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You know that? [Laughter].\nI mean... 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Quanta?\nSPEAKER3: Concentrated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=1179.94,1183.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62580/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nConcentrated on reincarnation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=1183.94,1186.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62580/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3:\nYes, in the wheel of--\nwheel of 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Your mind, you mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=1304.28,1306.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62580/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nYeah.[laughter]\nYour mind, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=1306.83,1309.79"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62580/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3:\nRinpoche, how does a snake\ndevelop human-like qualities?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=1311.0,1315.55"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62580/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[INAUDIBLE]\nat that level. 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Why?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=2299.71,2303.06"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62580/annotation/490","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nWhy not?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=2303.06,2305.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62580/annotation/491","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Laughter]\nThank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751#t=2305.03,2314.22"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62580","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115872/file/219751/transcript/62580/annotation/492","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/062/580/original/19730706VCTR1-Captions-ForAudio.vtt?1702511753","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/062/580/original/19730706VCTR1-Captions-ForAudio.vtt?1702511753"}]}]}]}