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Yet Marpa was also able to train students who became great yogis, tantric philosophers, powerful teachers. A great scholar who learned languages quickly, interacted with other scholars, but led ordinary family and business life. Describes Marpa's direct, uncompromising style as important to the lineage. Marpa as having highest level of mahamudra understanding in the midst of ordinary life. Inspired enough to produce a person like Milarepa. At end of talk, Trungpa Rinpoche gives heartfelt encouragement to the students to do day-long sitting practice the next day, and describes impact it will have."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Dec 07 2019 to Nov 12 2020\nTranscribing: Leandra Ziegler\nChecking: Ella Milligan\nFinal Proof: Travis May\nTerminology Review: Matilda Perks\nOther Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Describes Marpa's life situation, as an ordinary householder and farmer, how that set the tone for the Kagyu lineage. Yet Marpa was also able to train students who became great yogis, tantric philosophers, powerful teachers. A great scholar who learned languages quickly, interacted with other scholars, but led ordinary family and business life. Describes Marpa's direct, uncompromising style as important to the lineage. Marpa as having highest level of mahamudra understanding in the midst of ordinary life. Inspired enough to produce a person like Milarepa. At end of talk, Trungpa Rinpoche gives heartfelt encouragement to the students to do day-long sitting practice the next day, and describes impact it will have."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/267/370/small/Screenshot_2025-03-13_at_12.45.10%E2%80%AFAM.png?1741837693","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1741837594_19730902VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":4443.328,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/267/370/small/Screenshot_2025-03-13_at_12.45.10%E2%80%AFAM.png?1741837693","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/267/370/original/1741837594_19730902VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4?1741837627","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":4443.328,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730902VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19730902VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Life and Teachings of Marpa - Talk 2]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=0.0,141.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What we seem to be going to discuss tonight is particular characteristics of Marpa and his special approach to life, as well as his way of communicating with students, this point. In connection with the blind faith and intelligent faith, that it seems blind faith based on one's expectation and hopes of all kinds. And intelligent faith is based on sense of a real approach to what is happening at the given situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=141.0,275.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blind faith is just purely picking up something habitually. Somebody is going to save you; therefore, you might as well latch on to that particular boat. And intelligent faith is that that boat is actually functioning, worthwhile getting on to that particular boat. Whether you should get onto it or not, it is very intelligent one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=275.0,312.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the style of Marpa's life is concerned, that he acknowledged himself as a householder, ordinary citizen of Tibet. And he acknowledged himself as being part of the society. And original inspiration of when he left his country, terms of money, that he could pay for his travel expenses as well as relating with his teachers; or that he has a well-trained horse and saddle that is made out of teak wood. And he went out trying to sell them to get more gold for his passage as well as for teachings fee when he get to India.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=312.0,410.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That his approach was very bold, direct, extremely bold and direct. And receiving teaching from Naropa, he returned to Tibet. Because the reputation of a disciple of Naropa come back to Tibet, he made more gold; he made more, he developed more fame. And he married at that particular situation to Dagmema. And he still trying to pursue that his life is householder, ordinary citizen. And his practices are based on how to develop his basic, ordinary life situation maintaining his dairy up in the mountain. Managing his farm and the field, and he work that way. So that is a perfect model of one of the lineages of the Kagyupa tradition. That, as far as Marpa is concerned, that he was not slightestly [sic] guiltcome [sic] -- guilt...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Guilty?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=410.0,517.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Guil*ty*. And still that he was a household man. That he was supposed to give up his farm and his house and his animals, his wife and children, at all. That provides very interesting situation, which seem to be contradictory to many yogic trainings that recommend you to give up anything to do with living situation like that: managing farm, relate with the family, kids, relate with the business at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=517.0,574.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Marpa's example seem to play the one of the most *important* part in the Kagyupa tradition as the breadwinner of the lineage. A real father of the lineage. People feel that is not yogic tradition, Marpa's style not yoga tradition. And it is written, and it's been said in the many journals and many writings of critics that says that Marpa is not a legitimate holder of the lineage. He was a mere translator; he just translated because he has money. He want to collect his money, and he collected gold and he received teaching and he translated. In turn, he's transmitted to his lineage. And trained people by certain extraordinary coincidence, that his students become more inspired than what he was. So Marpa, as a worldly person, is no good. That in turn, his students have picked up the message, and they become greater person than Marpa, who was mere link, mere bridge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=574.0,667.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which seem to be, at this point, if we look at from that approach, that seem to be extremely ludicrous and *stupid*, we could say as far as to the point. Ignoring the transmission that could have pass along and transmission of teaching is continuous, so somebody has copped out of his discipline of relating with the teachings and somebody picked up later on. That's stupid. That's just purely based on the Western logic of somebody made a better discovery than their master. And that master is no good and master could be challenged, because students are much more smarter than the master. And such approach could be said as pure sociological, archeological surveyor of the Tibetan Buddhism without any feelings towards real meaning of transmission and the direct lineage that involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=667.0,765.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the case of Marpa, it seem to be extremely unique as Marpa had four disciples. One of them highly versed in the philosophy of tantra; and one of them highly involved with the practice; and one of them highly involved with the techniques of yoga practices; and one of them highly involved with the dealing with the students, the domestic affair. Those four of them regarded as four great pillars of Kagyupa traditions at this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=765.0,824.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So Marpa's style is extremely unique and important if you would like to study and understand of it. Ordinary householder who still minds his business, and he takes care of his every cow he has up in the highlands, and he takes care of every crops of barley field and wheat field that he has in the lower lands. He's just ordinary householder, extremely ordinary householder. But he's also taking care of spiritual welfare of Kagyupa lineage for the future. He is extremely temperamental, short tempered. And, according to the description, that Marpa is very short and stocky, he had crew cut in his hair, and a sunburned face, extremely business-like and practical.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=824.0,909.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He loses temper at his wife and children very easily, as well as his disciples. And, when he meets his first disciple, he deals them like a business partner. \"How much you going to pay me? Are you going to work with me or are you not going to work with me? Are you are going to study? Okay, go and study. I can't support you; you have to find your means.\" Everything is a matter of fact and very simple and direct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=909.0,944.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And his home, his farm, supposedly very spacious, a great mansion made out of Tibetan style of that particular district. That particular area is similar to that of the adobe houses that you might find in New Mexico with the white washed outside and spacious accommodation inside. His library, kitchen, bedroom, huge place for a treasury to keep his treasuries of his wealth. Boxes of coins and gold and brocades and grains and their butters and cheese and everything. As far as we know, in the Marpa's life situation is concerned, that he is generally behaving as ordinary farmer. Farmer, merchant businessman, which is common in those times in Tibet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=944.0,1033.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Marpa converted one of international merchant Tibet, called Marpa Golek, who's a international tradesman. That he goes to China, he brings wealth through Tibet to India, travels through the Silk Road-- Route that traditionally developed those period. And Marpa Golek become disciple of Marpa Lotsawa, the Marpa the Translator. And he had help lot to promote Marpa's business of merchandising his butter and cheese industry. The butter exchange program that does happen once a year in certain, particular spot in Tibet. There is a trade fair where the merchants from the East Tibet, from China, comes from India, Nepal comes. There's exchange of butter, exchange of butter, grain, cheese, leather goods, and saddles, and pegs, and pillows for the tents, and mules, horses, and so forth, that is be exchanged.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=1033.0,1132.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Marpa benefit a great deal from those trade fairs. But, still, he remained himself as good ranch owner, good farmer. He raise his children, educate them, very simply, directly what he had learned. Also, the literacy of being Tibetan, high class society. But Marpa did not make any attempt to become a government official to-- trying to rule the district area politically, but he maintain himself as good farmer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=1132.0,1181.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is been said, in the one of his life stories, that Marpa was regarded as a bad politician if he's going to be district local official. Although he was proposed, because he had such bad temper that he wouldn't make good politician. So people decide to make him part of the-- his own farm should managed by himself and make success in his farm. Although he'd-- or, \"He's acquired knowledge from India, so let him rest. Let us not take him out, as he might make big fool out of the whole thing, because he has such bad temper. And his ideas too stubborn and ordin-- so demanding.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=1181.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we could see that Marpa is very ordinary person, extremely ordinary person. Extremely inspired person at the same time. In the early story of his childhood, that when he was five years old, eight years old, that parents thought that he should be sended to religious student-- as religious student; and he should be sended to a guru, some kind, local guru of some kind. Otherwise, he would become a bandit or some terrible, aggressive person going to fight for his territory. They're afraid of that. So, therefore, he was sent to local school to make sure that he becomes scholar rather than ranch owner. And they're afraid of that he might make tremendous enemies around the vicinity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=1230.0,1316.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"His language and philosophy is not so much with-- because he was an intellect is highly refined and superficial, because he knows what he speaks, if anybody disagrees with him, he challenges them on the spot. Which he has knowledge to do so. And his training two-- three years, he took three years to learn the local Hindi language as well as Sanskrit. It took three years for him to learn the whole thing, complete the whole thing. And because he was so stubborn and he was so \"at it,\" so much into it, such stubborn person become great scholar. Consequently, become enlightened person, because he is stubborn. Very interesting guy. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=1316.0,1394.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I feel like he is right here, talking about him. Real person. One of the interesting point about Marpa is because that his approach to life, enlightened life, is based on spiritual development-- [Laughter; applause; chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [to audio technician] Still working there?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yes, it's still working.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=1394.0,1445.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: His spiritual development, the spiritual development we are talking about, is that he would be able to maintain his life situation as he is and still able to attain highest or one of the most highest form of mahamudra understanding. Which is fantastic, unbelievable in fact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=1445.0,1476.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One of the convenient situation that Marpa is experience is that he has no-- he had never made attempt to exclude himself in the ordinary living situation. But he commit himself into daily business, whatever comes up. And a spiritual commitment he regarded as-- Marpa regarded as a further expansion of his pride, his achievement, his ambition, so forth. So we have, at this point, Marpa is the only, the one and the only examples of greatest farmer, householder, father of nine kids that able to attain enlightenment still doing the same thing on the process. And was able to produce person like Milarepa at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=1476.0,1582.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Such stubborn person who really answers your questions -- except cut you down; particularly, if you ask a spiritual question, he will cut you down. And if you ask, \"What my next discipline should be?\" and he will send you out to the field to round his cows, clean out the cow shit from his barn. That's first discipline that he will tell you to do so. Or build another fence around his farm. Eat good, feel-- good meat, good food. Drinks lot of barley beer. And lose his tempers to his wife. [laughter] Smacks his children. But still, there's something about him is enigmatic and wise, very spacious, fantastically spacious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=1582.0,1695.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The only problem in dealing with Marpa is that he's unpredictable. That you thought you made a very little mistake in dealing with his farm or whatever, but he get outraged. When you thinking you made a tremendous, big mistakes, that he feels okay, he's accommodating.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=1695.0,1738.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He receives his scholars all over the place from all over Tibet and from India, entertain them, tremendous hospitality towards them. But he never lose sight of that his employees lost their track, and they work in his farm, building his house. He is always ready to watch you and strike you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=1738.0,1781.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He's very interesting person. For one thing-- on the other hand, you could see the extremely uninteresting, you see, there's no mystery about him. Because he's so ordinary. But, on the other hand, you could say that he's *so* extraordinary that one never knows what he has under his sleeves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=1781.0,1816.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think that we have inherited lot of his styles in this particular lineage, Kagyupa lineage, Marpa's style, constantly, all the time. That he is the only symbol of breadwinner in the Kagyupa tradition, which plays important part, extremely important part. Without him, that I feel that we can't survive. His short temper is extremely useful. Without those cutting qualities, we cannot survive. So the teachings generated passed through constantly, on and on, up to present days.\r\n\r\n\r\nAny questions? I think we should stop that point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=1816.0,1899.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What do you mean by mahamudra? I'm not sure what that term means.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can somebody explain about mahamudra? [laughter] Mister Jeremy, Say something about the mahamudra. [laughter] Can you step in, Jeremy? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: [INAUDIBLE] [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: It's a-- it means \"great symbol.\" [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Something more than that. Can you say something about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Somehow it's connected with--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can he hear you?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: No, I [INAUDIBLE] can't hear.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He can't hear you, so you have to step out here.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: It's connected with--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why don't you stand there? [laughter] Why don't you come closer? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: It's connected with an intelligence that penetrates beyond the limits of ego.[laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you understand?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: It's connected with it, but what is it? Is it a form of meditation or what?\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: No, it's not a form of meditation.[laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is it individual?\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: It's a way of living, I suppose. An attitude to life.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: A philosophy.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not quite a philosophy. Living. Traffic rules, how you drive your car.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Does it involve set practice?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's not a philosophy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: But does it involve set practices? Or is it more intuitive?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: More than set practices. A life's commitment. So it's not a hobby.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=1899.0,2195.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What is your interpretation of Marpa's treatment of Milarepa?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think there's interpretation there particularly. It's very nice and very good and very necessary.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well, why did he make him build so many houses? Was it because he practiced a negative form of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, he has so much negative to himself, and he has so much ideas of that he want to purify himself. That he begin to realize that purification does not rely on doing his duty of building houses, but he have to realize himself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well, why did he put him through that extreme physical hardship of actually having to build material houses, and suffer sores and the degradation of not knowing whether he would ever get the teaching after he finished his work?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because he had to give up his hopes of receiving teaching, see it as a savior. He had to give up right there that he's going to be saved.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well, didn't he get saved? I mean-- [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, until he give up idea of saved.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: After he gave up--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --hope and fear.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: So he didn't really get saved.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Whatever you'd like to say.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Right. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=2195.0,2281.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche, in talking about the style of the relationship between the teacher and student, and what we know about the lineage -- for instance Tilopa and Naropa and Marpa, Milarepa and Gampopa -- each one of them in connection with the other had a style which was different from the teacher. Is that-- does that say anything in terms of the relationship of the teacher-student relationship? For instance Milarepa, as the student of Marpa, instead of being the householder was a yogi. And Gampopa, the scholar monk instead of the yogi. And so on and so forth.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's depends on the up-to-date situation with the society is going through its change, social structures are going through its change, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well, I mean, does it mean anything psychologically in terms of the student-- in terms of the tendency to imitate the guru? Or the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean, they don't try to imitate the guru anyway. That's one of the basic thing, is that the students are not encouraged to become replica of their master. And students not supposed to talk like their masters, dropping articles or whatever it's may be. [Laughter] But they should develop their own system, their own individual technique, which they feel they could communicate with the rest of the student. Speaking pidgin English or whatever. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I think that-- I think that's a very big tendency of your students to imitate you in your style of voice.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Too bad. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=2281.0,2425.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: What would you do with a student who wanted to go out, leave everything? Perhaps just build your houses over and over for you, but otherwise run around naked with nothing. Would you give them teachings?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sounds like what you said is they should be caught.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=2425.0,2490.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I heard a story today.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You did?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Yes. [laughter] One of many. And, in this one, you're the star. And--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I am?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: It seems you had spilled a bowl of soup.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: *What*? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: And the story gets more interesting. I think-- I don't how-- whether you-- the student didn’t know what to do about it, whether to clean it up or not. So then you suggested that he eat from the rug. [laughter] And then he did. And a few others did, spilled a little more soup, and everyone else was eating from the [laughing] rug. And then you also did this. And [laughter] I suspect it's not your habit to do that, that you had a lesson in that. And I was wondering what it was? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What can I say? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: You can light up another piece of paper? [laughter] Okay, if you-- what about-- what if someone had said \"no?\" What if someone had decided not to do it? Let's say ten or fifteen people had decided to lick the soup from the rug. And the sixteenth said, \"No thanks, I don't think I'm going to do this.\" [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would say, \"Too bad.\" [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Yeah. [laughter] But it's not really an either/or situation, it seems to me.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: It's not really an either/or situation. You know, that you either must or that you must not.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You *must*. [laughter; chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: [INAUDIBLE] intelligent faith or not. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: With intelligent faith you must.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Intelligent faith.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You must. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=2490.0,2637.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: You said that it was extraordinary that Marpa could reach such a high state of mahamudra experience, even though he was a householder. And yet [laughter] this seems to be the basic approach of the Kagyupa lineage, one of the basic things.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's one of the most important and basic-- [audio equipment beeps; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAnybody who is a coward was kicked out. Because the master is not a coward, even if he-- even if the student's coward. To make statement, a definite commitment.\r\n\r\n\r\nThe message is the teaching, and the teaching method is to help you make up your mind, give you a chance to cop out. If you can't cop out of the teachings, well the teacher's situation will cop you out for you. So make sure there is a clean cut, and there is nothing ambivalent. Everything is straightforward and direct. That you don't hang out in unknowing what you are doing, whether you are in it or whether you are out of it. The method of teaching and the teacher would help you to either cut you down, destroy you, or become part of the lineage. So you have more chance to work on yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=2637.0,2843.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Doesn't trying to imitate-- the students trying to imitate his teacher in a more and more and subtle ways -- in other words, keep dropping off the obvious foolish things like pidgin English -- doesn't that help the students become himself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It becomes a subtler pidgin English.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It becomes a very subtle pidgin English.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: But doesn't the-- just the effort to do it *show*-- isn't that how the teacher functions as a mirror? It's ridiculous for us to do it, and we only can see it by trying.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It had to have some personal interest, personal inspiration, rather than purely imitating constantly. As long as there's personal interest, the personal style is also exercised without being embarrassed of what you are.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=2843.0,2914.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Rinpoche, didn't you say last night that you have to act sane to be sane?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You have to what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Wasn't it that-- somebody asked the question last night whether you have to be sane first to act sane. You said no, you thought it was the other way around.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't be sane? [laughter] What you mean by that? I'm not quite sure. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Well, I don't know, I was asking you that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm not quite sure what you asking me there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: What you meant by-- I mean-- the way that ties into-- it doesn't matter anyway.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In time what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: It doesn't matter, never mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it does matter.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Well, I-- just a question of acting sane. I don't know how to formulate it well enough, I'm sorry.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: See what happens.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: The question was that, \"Do people have to act sanely to be sane?\" And the answer was, \"I think it's the other way around.\" [laughter; chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that seem to be natural thing. I mean, there's no question that thought evolve.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Well, other times, even in the-- in the Padmasambhava seminar, the Crazy Wisdom seminar, you said that at some point you start acting a role, and then you find out that the role is true. Like you pretend you're Buddha, or you pretend you're sane.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There is intelligent question, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: I think that's what she was saying.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well, that doesn't mean to say that you have to trying to con or trying to neglect your style, particularly. But you have your style, then your style is accepted, therefore, acceptance of your style is-- seem to be sanity already. Rather than trying to hide your insanity to imitate sanity, something else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=2914.0,3110.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: You say that a master does not have-- is not a coward. I wonder how you feel about human characteristics. Does one have both coward instincts and bravery as well? As being human, don't we all have that the same?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: So you’re saying that a master does not have any coward instinct?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It does, because it kept-- but, at the same time, the coward instinct is translated into a sense of dignity, rather than wretchedness of the person's makeup. So you are not embarrassed about your cowardness. Your cowardness is also regarded the exit to the basic sanity at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: So that, as I understand what you're saying, is that a master does have a coward instinct, but he is aware of it and doesn't get uptight about it and kind of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: --and kind of transfers it into a--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Put in nutshell. Yeah, yeah, so to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=3110.0,3214.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: How do you tell the difference between a style and something that could be just in respect of ego-tripping -- a trip that you're on, like you used to talk about getting rid of your trips? How do you know that that's style?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, style it seem to be part of you. A trip is something you that latch onto you, that you want to be. Trips usually happens because you are uncertain of yourself, and you trying to detach-- you trying to bring some extra thing onto you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: What I mean is, if you have that uncertainty, then how are you going to be able to judge in yourself which is trip and which is style?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't. You have to throw yourself into it to begin with, and then you begin to distinguish which is your skin, original skin color, which is your tattoo -- once you leap-- once you leapt. It needs a first initial jump to be willing to face both possibilities, and then you begin to realize it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Is it possible to be any more precise about what that leap could-- would be like--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: --and what some experience that-- [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You have to do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's no reassurance for that; you just have to leap to begin with.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Well, I don't mean a result--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. I know what [laughing] you mean. [laughter] There's no reassurance. One has to do it, just simply.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=3214.0,3333.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: You were talking about the ambivalence as far as relating to teachings, are you saying like that that’s basically an unhealthy situation? Yet it would seem at some point that's sort of a natural situation; like there comes a point where that ambivalence is just there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't see any problems with that. You just go ahead and do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=3333.0,3368.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: In talking about a master having something like cowardice, you said that he had his cowardice as a basic exit into sanity, or had an exit into basic sanity. Which means-- would mean that it isn't whether or not he has something like cowardice; it's that he knows what to do with it, how to give it an exit. In the light of that, what would you say was insanity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Insanity seem to be that you would expect something return. You got your money's worth; you put out your energy and so forth. You would like to something in return, so that your investment is secured.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: That sounds very business-like though.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Obviously. Ego setup is already business-like.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: But you were talking about Marpa being so business-like even in spirituality.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm, yeah. But that's different kind of business, it's entirely different kind of business. Marpa's made business because that his investment is not-- no reward to him. But his business investment is just purely for sake of business itself, to receive teachings and so forth, which is entirely different.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: So when you are asked to give up your insanity, it includes giving up the idea of getting your money's worth.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Like was asked of Milarepa, to give up his expectations.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I think I would say that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=3368.0,3497.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Is leap synonymous with surrender that you talked about yesterday?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Is it a meditative experience? Just something that happens?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It is not only meditative experience, but it’s day-to-day experience, meditatively. Everyday life experience. It doesn't have to be contemplative particularly. But it happens all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=3497.0,3544.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: You talk about the importance of Marpa as a breadwinner, a kind of unique thing; and it seems really unique and reading about different teachers and men who, you know, saw into the source of nature of things. Isn't it-- hardly of them, you know, are-- have that kind of ordinariness as breadwinners as opposed to the yogis who are something very special. But is there any reason for that? Or was Marpa the last one like that, or...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As far as the Kagyupa lineage is concerned, Marpa is extremely unique. He demonstrate the breadwinner qualities. That's made Kagyupa tradition special, extraordinary, superior. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Other traditions don't have-- are you saying other traditions don't have that same kind of unique ordinariness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, I don't think so. Because like Nyingmapa tradition is concerned, that Padmasambhava is invited by King Trisong Detsen. And king is already breadwinner of his country already, so there's no hardship, there's no look-- working for resources, how to maintain itself. And such is like there's no breadwinner qualities involved at all. In terms of Zen traditions as well, that the Zen tradition was accepted by the royal families of the country of Japanese tradition at that time and become the patrons of the kings, so there's no chance to make breadwinner message to the rest of students at all. So Kagyupa tradition uniquely stands out from that point of view. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370#t=3544.0,3670.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144647/file/267370/transcript/77330/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Rinpoche, you said that Marpa had four disciples and they were highly trained in four different areas. Could you repeat that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One is the intellectual understanding of tantra; the other one is Milarepa, who's contemplative practices; the other one is he’s relating with his family life situation, social structure; and fourth one is he who related completely in terms of his discipline as friendly relationship with dealing with his students, personal relationships. And those are represented by the-- if you remember the book that Milarepa's dream, which was interpreted by Marpa, four pillars. That Milarepa was represented by this vulture perching on a pillar. And the others are lion, and tiger, and garuda and so on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo that is to say that there is intellectual aspect of the Kagyupa tradition, as well as the practical aspect of Kagyupa tradition, and the contemplative aspect with it, as well, at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Why is it that we hear mainly of Milarepa then? 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I feel if you didn't take part in this particular sitting practice, that you are not actually getting anything out of it at all, because you have not committed yourself into finding out what things-- what reality is all about, what is Marpa is all about. So sitting practice for a certain period of time, which is tomorrow is a rather short period—starts nine o'clock and ends at--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: Seven.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seven, which is extremely short. [laughter] Extremely short, and you have further entertainment is another talk in the evening, which is [laughter] well, one shouldn't be such thing, but... And since short of time, that we have to do that thing, which I feel guilty. [laughter] So, anybody just taking part in this seminar is not experiencing complete seminar without sitting with us. Otherwise, you are deceiving us. And actually, you're polluting that ground you're sitting on it. This particular area, land that we bought is devoted to meditation practice, and if you're not taking part in it, it's greatest pollution that you can ever do.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo you might find very difficult to do that sitting practice for whole day. Maybe lot of you are newcomers and haven't done it before. But just trust yourself -- *try*, give a try. I'm sure you can do it. That's what they find themselves extraordinary interesting person, because they fell in love to themselves -- that they can do that thing, that they can do their practice. After you are not a bad as what you thought.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo chance to develop trust in yourself. And also part of the day tomorrow that, if you sat here together practicing your [UNCLEAR: day?], complete meditation without talking, without indulging all kind of extraordinary business things. We are stopping at least 1,000th of American speed, which is very contagious thing to-- thought to think about. We are slowing down American speed, neurosis. You are also contributing great deal to this country as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo I would like to invite you very heartily. Please try and take part in this nyinthun, which is a very short period. And we will be-- I will feel very grateful if you could take part in the complete nyinthun. I feel what we are talking makes more sense if you have indulge yourself, this case, into some kind of space and a period of nonaction on the space, and non-thinking, which is good.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo I would like to invite everybody to take part in that. And the members of community here will set you example [laughter] and lead you. So please, try to sit with us, which makes a lot of sense. And let me not explain too much about what sense it makes, so that makes you too much think-- too much thinking for you tomorrow. But you will come up to conclusion what sense it made if you sit for a certain period of time doing nothing, for part of the tomorrow at least, that will be great. So please try and do it. Thank you, have a good night, nightmare. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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