{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/rr1pg1js0z/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1975-08-14: The Iconography of Buddhist Tantra: Talk 8: Self-Existing Humor"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1975-08-14"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Video"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Boulder, Colorado, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Course"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/227/show\"\u003e1975 Naropa Institute: The Iconography of Buddhist Tantra\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 8: Self-Existing Humor"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Art and Aesthetics"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["A two-part talk, with Trungpa Rinpoche first re-emphasizing that understanding tantric iconography comes from understanding oneself and the details of one's world. Developing clarity to see ordinary challenges of life as visual dharma. Three aspects of viewing visual dharma: humor, bringing cosmic perspective to bear on life situation,  relating with things as they are, both harmonious and not.  Foundations for understanding peaceful and wrathful deities in tantric iconography, and teachings of enlightenment.  In second part, Trungpa Rinpoche shows six slides, demonstrating essential tantric principles in both his own photographs and traditional images of figures and deities within Kagyu lineage. Famous early thangka of Vajradhara; thangka of Marpa,, the \"Washington of the Kagyupas.\"  His own photographs illustrate five buddha principles, including aggression, peacefulness, humor, as well as glimpse of realization."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: True Perception","BOOK: Dharma Art","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 07","VIDEODVD: True Perception"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: TRUE PERCEPTION (previously titled DHARMA ART): Chapter: Self-Existing Humor\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/true-perception-1597.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 07 (in contained book DHARMA ART)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-381.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nVIDEODVD: TRUE PERCEPTION\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.kalapamedia.org/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=DVK421\"\u003eKalapa Media\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Apr 03 2021 to Aug 28 2021 Transcribing: Leandra Ziegler Checking: Sophie Perks Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1975"]}}],"summary":{"en":["A two-part talk, with Trungpa Rinpoche first re-emphasizing that understanding tantric iconography comes from understanding oneself and the details of one's world. Developing clarity to see ordinary challenges of life as visual dharma. Three aspects of viewing visual dharma: humor, bringing cosmic perspective to bear on life situation,  relating with things as they are, both harmonious and not.  Foundations for understanding peaceful and wrathful deities in tantric iconography, and teachings of enlightenment.  In second part, Trungpa Rinpoche shows six slides, demonstrating essential tantric principles in both his own photographs and traditional images of figures and deities within Kagyu lineage. Famous early thangka of Vajradhara; thangka of Marpa,, the \"Washington of the Kagyupas.\"  His own photographs illustrate five buddha principles, including aggression, peacefulness, humor, as well as glimpse of realization."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/207/small/thumbnail_164207_1664392349.jpg?1664396840","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19750814VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrHD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":3648.43538,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/207/small/thumbnail_164207_1664392349.jpg?1664396840","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/164/207/original/19750814VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrHD-Access.mp4?1659502267","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":3648.43538,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19750814VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19750814VCTR1 - Naropa Institute - The Iconography of Buddhist Tantra - Talk 8 - Self-Existing Humor]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=0.0,43.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK PART 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like to go further, if we could, this point. In terms of what we been discussing in past few weeks, or during this particular term. I think basically that what we want to work, or what I want present, for your benefit, is that we don't want to jump into the conclusions of the iconography right away, right into it. That we are unable to see them, properly, and we're unable to develop sense of sacredness, and sense of richness, completely, properly. Which is very hard and very difficult. And particularly, that such course has been publicized in the catalogue of Naropa Institute, as well as that you have all kinds of expectations, that such situation might happen, might occurred, that you would like to understand, and want to know all the ins and outs of arts in the Tibetan Buddhism. Artistic expressions of particularly paintings, thangkas. And that seem to very cheap way of approaching the whole thing. And I feel extremely protective about that. And I must say that I have to remain on that particular point, and trying to present the whole situation precisely, clearly, directly, and experientially, which is very important; that it is not particularly a shopping process, or it's not particularly a training for you to shop, particularly, this point. And which I feel regret if I planted such thing in your mind, to make you greater, better shoppers, to buy one million dollars worth of ancient Tibetan artwork or thangka in New York City. And you manage to sight them out, and you manage to buy them, for two dollars, or sell them out, make two million dollars out of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=43.0,183.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's very sad situation: that's precisely the, particularly Tibetan cultural work of art is going down the drain. By lots of rich or thick people -- like the soup -- are going through that kind of process; they are thick, they don't understand anything, but they're still rich, so they can afford to buy, and the every picture, every thangka, every work of art is either been made into lamp stands or exhibition subjects, and be sold, for further profits, that creates greater aggression.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=183.0,225.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which seem to be interesting point. And I feel that this particular project is much more desperate, and much more sacreligious than eating meat, from that point of view. That ecological rape on the wisdom of Tibet has been really abused, and used so badly, extremely badly, that it's almost *hurts* a lot. That you buy a great thangka, just hang them up, and have fantastic parties around it, show it to your rich friends, and have a great time. But nothing comes out of that; it's just fantastically that, \"People in the past, or those people in the Himalayas in Tibet, did such great work of art, and how beautiful it is, how fantastic it is, ha-ha.\" And nothing goes beyond that; it's becomes virtually part of junk, just another version of junk, expensive junk, that doesn't make any sense. Nobody understand what's *in* it, how to view it, where to look at, how to experience, properly. So I feel extremely resentful about that particular type of mentality and approach. And maybe I should be more hypocritical; if we're going to raise more funds, you should approach some of such people like that and be more generous and grateful and kind. But I *can't* do that. It's beyond. And when somebody begin to rape that kind of particular-- or disrespect that particular kind of wisdom, insight, enlightenment, purely worth the money, it becomes that unbelievably criminal thing to do. And even we had get money from such people, I think we afraid of use it. Probably burn them down, put them in the stove, make a nice bonfire out of it. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=225.0,358.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's very serious matter, that what you are getting into, what we're going to discuss, what we *are* discussing, is that it is up to *you* people, who are interested in learning iconography. And you people are the saving grace on this particular work of art, particular insight, and practice, experiential situation that set up. It's purely up to *you* people. And I'm glad you are able to come, and you are able to understand, or not understand or whatever -- at *least* to pay attention to what's happening. It would be great-- it *is* great, that you are actually doing this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=358.0,395.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That I would like you to know, furthermore, what we were discussing early on, and appreciating the mountains, and appreciating the streets of Boulder, and appreciating your particular lifestyle, and lifestyle of cooking and lifestyle of viewing visual world, as it is; it's very important for you. If you want to really learn about iconography as such, basically you got to know who you are, what you are, to begin with. Otherwise that you are just simply going to be agent for those people who sold the dharma for their own benefit for millions of dollars.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=395.0,441.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, we should think about those terms much more. And from today onward, in my particular few talks that is available, is based on the idea of trying to look into much closely as the iconography, per se, as such, as much as we could. But before we get into that particular iconographical understanding, that we also refresh our memories that what we have discuss in the previous few weeks. Which are very meaningful, very important. And when the nights that I'm here and discussing with you people, are not so much of that I'm doing it for my own kick, or I'm here as just purely person who does great show business. That's not the point. The point is trying to get through to *you* people. And talk to you, something that you might pick up something, something here, personally, that your spiritual journey is benefited, at the same time your *wisdom* is increased, from that point of view. To see the world as it is, in its own perspective, but nevertheless, touch of insight, how to look at needle in the pine tree, how to smell raccoon, how to drink cup of tea, how to wear-- how to *feel* your hair, your dress, your clothes, how to touch your foot on the ground, how to walk. All perceptual level; that everything is artistic level of some sense. That there had to be some kind of communication and *real* perception, had to be involved, definitely had to be involved. That's absolutely important. Without that, that we have big barrier. That as far as my obligations are concerned, I don't feel like talking to anybody, if there's no actual interest in the life. If there's purely only interest in trying to recapture, or trying capture, the informations about thangkas. So what? You might go to study Mexican cooking, for that matter. Trying to learn how to make horseshoe. Everything seem to be waste of energy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=441.0,608.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That there is lots of power, behind the whole thing, in iconographically. And the symbolism is not so much of art school project, this point. And what this particular class is not regard as art school project, in the swinging University of California. [Laughs; llaughter] This is a different place: you are not in California, you are in Boulder, Colorado. Much more serious than that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=608.0,647.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We are working with the fantastic mountains, we're working with the fantastic plains, of the America, and sort of energy center that Boulder is unique place -- turn out to be unique place, rather than it's planned that way. And here we are sitting together and discussing about the whole thing, about work of art. And I'm glad you are here, we're doing this. And I don't think is the mistake at all. It was predetermined, in some sense. Although it is not arranged by our big daddy or anything like that. [Laughter] But here we are! Working together, talking to each other, this point. At the moment I am doing the more of-- most of the talking rather than you are -- you'll be talk later. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=647.0,702.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"However, the question is that, there are certain energies that when you begin to view visual dharma, certain energies that takes place in you. Having understood the visual dharma in general, and your perceptual world, the world of phenomena that is colorful, and nasty, exciting, helpful, and all the rest of it. And there is something is taking place in our visual perception, our actual *world*! That there is something is taking place. You can't avoid it all the time. And we are trying to take that particular... that particular *essence*, so that we could appreciate tantric art. And this particular training program here, that what we're doing, is not so much of that you should be trained to be good thangka-lookers, necessarily, as such. We're not talking about that, we are talking about the-- that in the thangka tradition, and particular perception that exist in the thangka painting discipline, is not so much of that work of art, but it's a lifestyle situation, that can be *shared* throughout your life situation, throughout walking in that sidewalk, crossing red lights, making your own egg in breakfast, and listening to the kettle, hot water whistling, asking for attention. And little things that takes place in our life are most important ones. And that seem to be one of the basic point. How to view things as they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=702.0,837.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there are two types of set-up -- or I should say *three* types of set-up, this point, in terms of viewing the ultimate vision of the dharma painting, as well as dharma picture, that exist spontaneously in our world, in our life. There's two types of situations taking place. That one is that the first, have some kind of sense of humor, some kind of basic understanding as to how things work. [Speaks aside to attendant] [Long pause]That seem to be general area is based on idea of some kind of humor. That doesn't mean to say that when we talk about humor in the ordinarily, that people have idea that you must be laughing at somebody, behind somebody's back. Or you think everything's extremely corny and funny, and it doesn't make any sense, and which means there's immense aggression behind the whole thing. We are not talking about that kind of crude and resentful humor. But we are talking about humor in this case as being some kind of *delight*, and then begin to learn perpetual understanding about how the reality works. Not by studying scholastically, but by perceiving how the humor exist within the cosmic world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=837.0,982.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And with that kind of humor, then we begin to develop some kind of understanding, that humor and separateness -- humor begin to see through the separateness, from \"me\" and \"others\", \"others\" and \"me\", that we talked about early on. That separation between \"you\" and \"I\", and the separation between \"you\" and \"your world\", and the separation between \"you\" and \"your God\", whatever. That separation is cut through by some kind of sense of humor. That seem to be the basic point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=982.0,1027.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then after that particular level, then we begin to come up with some kind of basic space, some kind of basic space in which that the humor is self-existence, and we begin to see the manifestation of a cosmic structure, in a very personal level, nothing very archaic or nothing very blissful, nothing very *divine* particularly, but something very ordinary, and very matter of fact level. That there is some kind of complete open space, that virgin territory, that ground that has never been messed up by plowing, sowing seed anymore, they're just complete virgin territory, so to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=1027.0,1082.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then we begin to develop to next stage from there. That experience become much more realistic and much more grounded, and more personal; more personally that you are able to actually relate with things as they are, very closely -- *almost* precisely, you can able to do that. And that particular precision takes all kinds of sharp edges. And all kinds of sharp edges from that point of view, by meaning, that idea of peace, idea of harmony, idea of aggression, idea of negativities and all things are included. In the tantric iconography, that understanding the distinction between the wrathful deities and the peaceful deities, are based on idea of having those foundations. Remember the foundation that we talked about in this particular talk? First one is some kind of sense of humor, non-individualistic sense of humor, and then there is a sense of all-pervasive space. And after that, when there is a perceiver, which is the sense of humor person, who begin to appreciate the play of the phenomena, properly. Then there is perception, which is big wide open empty sky, bright blue in color, takes place. And third time that then there's a little comet comes out of it, out of the sky, blue sky. Or little cloud, with little designs comes out. Or for that matter little bird begin to fly -- or bigger bird, airplane, whatever it's may be. There's something's begin to take place, which begin to change the *mood*, in your openness; that openness is finally begin to acknowledged by the different tone of energy that takes place: peaceful, which is pacifying, benevolent, and a sense of harmlessness, and a sense of warming up, sense of warmth, and sense of encouragement of all kinds. Then you have the next situation which is wrathful ones. Which is mocking, in some sense. At the same time it's overwhelmingly exposed caricature of ourselves begin to churn up. And sometimes deadly savage. And sometimes, dignifiedly strong and powerful, to handle that situation, which takes place, quite simply.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=1082.0,1262.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And having had those particular experience developed already, then we have some sense of the understanding of the teachings, the teachings of the enlightenment. We begin to appreciate the sense of reality, in the fullest sense. That all these experience that we are going through, are somewhat workable, and it's not just purely your lonely trip alone, but somebody has done it already, and somebody has the idea and information, and somebody has the lineage behind it, that in the sense of some kind of sense of warmth, of the guru -- personal guru, helper, friend, spiritual friend, master, elder, medicine man, whatever you like to call it -- begin to take place. And to begin to relate with that particular kind of-- *finally*, phew, come down to earth. That those experience are not all that outrageous or fantastic, but it's *real* in some sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=1262.0,1348.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that's seem to be basic point that I would like to discuss and talk about it, or we might see through some of the visual perspective on that, as well. Although I feel somewhat uncomfortable that I be showing too many slides lately. [Laughter] And I don't know how much is going to help you, how much is going to be source of entertainment, and things like that. Which is some kind of basic fear, in my mind, some sense -- concern, I should say. Is that, how much we are going to turn even a work of art into arty-fartsy. [Laughter] Or into reality, and real experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=1348.0,1396.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Whispers aside to someone in audience, nodding] Artsy-fartsy. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=1396.0,1401.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the last thing I really would like to do is that turn everybody into thangka buyers. Who would begin to know all the ins and outs and the logics of the thangka, and \"how we're going to paint them, and sell them, or how we're going to paint them and glorify ourselves. And how we're going to paint the old ones, and how we can tell the good qualities, bad qualities, how much is going to-- money going to make.\" And how much glorify, that you can create, decorating your homes and show it to your friends. And that's kind of artistic materialism, which is another category, or which is spiritual materialism in any case. I hate to do that particular thing. There's enough of that already, so we don't want to go too far with that. And that seem to be one of my basic concern.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=1401.0,1451.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you like to have any discussions connected with what I have discussed already, you're welcome to talk about it, if you like. You should think-- if you can keep up with closely with the subject matter that we've been discussing, it would be very helpful. Thank you -- in your questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=1451.0,1489.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, do you think that it's possible to be an art dealer in thangkas, and not be a materialist in that sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's possible, but idea is not so much of that it's like dealing and marketing pigs. That, you know, that how many males, how many females you have, that much price difference. Something like that; it seem to very animal realm situation. A lot of art dealers have no understanding of discipline or practice, or absolutely no *reverence*. And that seem to be the problematic. And obviously, we've got to sell it to somebody who are practitioners, who are actually have some kind of understanding, and the artwork has been sold in certain right environment, I think that’s okay. But, you know, that's not quite a hundred percent of course, you know, it's... I don't mean to say that there shouldn't be any art dealing work done at all, necessarily. But it's possible, at the same time. But I think it depends on how you begin to give the feeling of the whole thing, into the situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=1489.0,1578.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: White?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, would you say-- like, the description you gave of the space, and then something happening in it and stuff like that, it sounds really close to descriptions you've given of, like the development of ego, at a specific point in time, maybe. Is that connection?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think there's natural connections, in some sense. That the perception of ego is perception of reality at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So that's kind of a use of-- or a learning situation in viewing the thangka and stuff like that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, what else can we do. We can't just be completely egoless before we view our thangkas. We have no choice. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=1578.0,1679.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Throughout the talks, you keep making reference to seeing things directly, seeing things clearly, when we're looking at a situation. How much of that has to do with seeing the objects as objects themselves, or-- and how much of it has to do with seeing energy patterns and plays of energy among the objects? I mean is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's saying the same thing; there's no differences. And, I mean that seem to be one of the problems, that when we begin to see-- perceive tables and chairs, we would regard them as a different category. And when we begin to see deities in ourselves, or begin to see auras in somebody, whatever they are maybe, we would begin to put them into different category altogether. And your question is that, I think both situations are equally-- could take place simultaneously in fact. That experiencing things as they are, in terms of psychological state and actual perceptual level, they are same thing, absolutely same thing. That's what the whole thing is all about, actually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=1679.0,1783.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: When you speak of seeing the dharma, or things as dharmas, or dharmas manifesting, does that have to do with not only seeing the object and the patterns of energy around it, but also with the way it comes up and goes away? What is the particularly dharmic quality of our sight, when we see the dharma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you think?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well I think it has to do with the way they come up and go away again, and are not only vivid, and delightful, and manifestations of the way the world works, but they also are simply gone, when they're gone, and they simply... I think it has something to do with that. Maybe even like a slightly dream-like quality even though it's very real. But I'm not quite sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don't think dharmas are regarded as dreams particularly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I meant the fact that when it's gone, it's... quite gone. *Like* a dream -- I know that-- I don't mean to say that it *is* a dream, because it is seeing reality--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: --supposedly.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it's-- thing about dharma, dharmic about the whole thing, is that it is very precise and irritatingly precise, and extremely *sharp*. It cuts through both \"that\" and \"this\" at the same time. That it's quite demanding in some sense: when we begin to perceive something, it's not only begin to cut *that* area, but cut this area as well. So, in other word we can't keep as collections, as a collector's item anymore. That there's a mutual cutting through is involved, all the time. So that you can't rest yourself in a security anymore. That there is irritating aspect of that. Which *could* be quite pleasurable, in some sense -- \"blissful\" if you like to put it that word. But, you know, it's-- basically it's not yielding, it's-- and nothing actually becomes satisfying, in terms of the ultimate ego's terms.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=1783.0,1946.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, I've noticed that in poetry, and in dance and theater, an adaptation of traditional disciplines has been more obvious. And I was wondering to what extent we, as visual artists, can adapt the traditional iconography of the deities, and of the thangkas in general, without being fools? [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's been very basic question. I don't know, it's being very interesting point, that how much you can change the mahakalas into being cops, or oh... [laughter] or the lineage holders being presidents. That seem to be very difficult. I think as far as visual dharma is concerned it's-- it has somehow clean-cut situations. That there is a traditional training that people should get into completely. And hundred percent if not two-hundred-percent of traditional training, completely involved. *Real* understanding of the tradition *and* its craftsmanship at the same time, completely. Once we begin to have that kind of footing, basis, then we can extend beyond that, which nobody has done yet. So we don't know exactly what we're going to do, but I think something can be done.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd in terms of the photographs that we be showing, slides tonight, and previous nights, is some kind of attempt to see that visual dharma in ordinary everyday life. Of course they are not paintings, they are photographs. But that might give you some kind of clue, which I was hoping to do it you know; that there is some way of expressing the truth, the dharma. In understanding the principles and the basics of it, then you can do it. And-- but I don't think you can reckon, basic corollary, you know, throughout the whole thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But why is that with the visual image, that is so much more true, whereas with poetry, say, one wouldn't have to study traditional Tibetan poetry before being able to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, nobody's studying Tibetan poetry at this point; people have barely got some kind of grasp of the traditional Western poetry at this point. And nobody's doing Tibetan poetry at this point at all, you know. And people are just groping, into the world of poetry, and to-- not able to actually keep up with their own tradition, completely. So, work of art and art seem to be the only thing that is very direct and precise. And nobody's able to adapt, for instance music, into a Western tradition -- Western style of Tibetan chantings or anything like that. We've been trying for years, in how to actually learn, develop some kind of tunes, to chant our sadhana, and nobody really had to come up with a good ideas, so far. So that seem to be very difficult. That that has some truth in it actually -- the visual things comes first, then you begin to hear, and then you begin to smell, as we, by the way, talked about early on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, don't give up. But it doesn't have to be that clever thing, that, you know, somebody's done it, or you're going to be the first person who manage to cook up this particular gimmick; you know, just keep plodding. *You* might make it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=1946.0,2200.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Rinpoche, I'm having trouble relating Tilopa's approach to teaching Naropa with your approach to teaching us. In particular, Tilopa has Naropa do many acts, which on the surface seem very aggressive: beating people up, beating up princesses and then getting beaten up himself, or jumping off buildings. Could you somehow connect what you're asking us to do -- develop a sense of humor and appreciation -- with Tilopa's approach? I think there must be some connection, but it's hard for me to see it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, wait and see I suppose is the only thing. [Laughter] And then we can talk about it. I'm glad you're aware of the corrallel [sic], and relationship, and see what happens.\r\n\r\n\r\nYeah? Do you want to say something more?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=2200.0,2287.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK PART 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, at this point I would like to go through the thing, that what we discussed early on, in terms of the stages that we discussed, and maybe in a visual form. We got some slides here tonight. And to begin with I would to start with some sense of humor, which is not particularly funny shot, that I don't think you're going to be in stitches particularly. [Laughter] But it's a solemn humor, which is very meaningful. Maybe we should-- could project our carousel at this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=2287.0,2337.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[SLIDE 1: Photo of sign reading \"Holy, Holy, Holy. Lord God of Hosts. Heaven and Earth are full of thy glory\"]\r\n\r\n\r\nThis was a shot in Coventry Cathedral. That during the war, that the Nazis bombed the whole entire Cathedral. And there's little shell of cathedral is left and they have built the famous modern Coventry Cathedral. And this was just kind of a little note of forgiveness, that exist in the old part of the ruined Cathedral, in the Coventry in England. And I was there last-- this year actually, early on, in the summer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=2337.0,2381.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, it makes sense in some sense. We're talking about sense of humor in this level actually. That I'm sure that may be difficult for some people have a strong kind of hangover. But you can even see through *that*, this point. And it's very, very powerful message actually, here. Is the-- are not only the what it says, which really doesn't mean a great deal, except a lot of platitudes, or something like that. But, the whole set up is very interesting, that steps leading up to the wall, is the actual altar, which was bombed, and that's only thing left is that leftover cross, which was somewhere here, up there. And the interesting point of this particular humor is that the solidity, at the same time it's kind of glority [sic]-- glorifying the process. And that seem to be the basis of sense of humor, is hot and cold put together, so you can't help not laughing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=2381.0,2470.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[SLIDE 2: Vajradhara thangka]\r\n\r\n\r\nThis is thangka that the shot by His Holiness Karmapa himself, actually. When I asked him for some of lineage thangkas that he has, beautiful ones, and he had send me these copies, which was actually shot by His Holiness himself. And this particular one is the first of the lineage Kagyu tradition thangka that exist. As somewhat related with the idea we be talking about early on, onto the sense of space. And this particular Vajradhara, who represents fundamentally the basic space, basic sky; therefore he is in blue in color in that form, autumn color of deep blue. And the idea of all-pervasiveness. And his hands hold together, in the level of his chest, with the vajra scepter and the bell together, which speaks of indivisibilities of emptiness and joy together, or bliss together. And surrounded by two bodhisattvas: one is the orange one, representing knowledge, wisdom, and the blue one representing energy, power. And he is basically sort of archetypal symbol of the basic existence in the practicing lineage. That, he's regarded as the beginning and end of the whole thing. Not in the level of a particularly Jehovah as such, particularly. But in the level of more, much more *diffused*, more impersonal level. So that seem to be-- that seem to provide some kind of a ground to react, or act -- react or act.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=2470.0,2620.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If there is some kind of basic -- [to projector operator] can you flip back to the other one please? If there's some kind of basis of humor that exist -- [to projector operator] can you flip back, again -- there's some kind of continuity could exist at the same time. That the sense of sacredness that presented by the humor shot, the \"holy\" shot, which still continues a sense of sacredness, still continues, but it's sort of-- this point it's sort of... I was thinking of what kind of slides I could have tonight, to represent this, and I been looking through my collections, and there's no one shot which just purely shot of blue sky. So, this is close to shot of blue sky, from that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=2620.0,2675.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This particular painting school is what's called \"Gadri\", which is particularly developed by the practicing lineage tradition of the Kagyu order, and designed by our great master in the Kagyu tradition in something like in the 15th century. And his design continued. And there's lot of richness exist in that particular thangka. But at the same time there's also a lot of honesty and some kind of bluntness, of this guy sitting on his throne, with the clouds behind him, with the garuda hanging on the top. There's the pink garuda there. And these clouds looks like clouds of ice cream, and this garuda -- a little cherry or something. [Laughter] And it's a picture of pleasure, and a picture of a *large mind*, big mind. And the blue in color, sitting there quite nonchalantly, and surrounded by these two seemingly nice friendly guys. [Laughter] And sitting on a lion throne -- the lion seem to be quite contented, like a little Pekingese, or something like that. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=2675.0,2766.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So there’s a sense of all harmony, and a sense of that space of immensity. And big mind is operating. Otherwise the little mind can't operate; there had to be some kind of sharp corners, some kind of complain had to be taking place all the time. And this is the expression of big *mind*, and big *desire*, and fantastic idea, taking place. Okay, next one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=2766.0,2793.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[SLIDE 3: Photo of Coventry Cathedral jagged edges]\r\n\r\n\r\nNow we're going to switch it back to the contemporary art, so to speak. This is a shot actually I did at the Coventry Cathedral itself, when I was there, which is I thought very interesting shot. That's what *I* think. [Laughter] Maybe you have different opinions, but that sort of represents immense aggression, immense aggression, and the jagged edges coming down and there's all kinds of lines. And every shot, this particular shot is based on the traditional idea of the five buddha principle of course. That there is the spacing of the whole thing, and allowing a lot of areas, and to corner oneself into that particular situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=2793.0,2842.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I thought, it's actually an ordinary sight: that nobody would think of taking photographs of that -- it's extremely ugly, depressing. And particularly such pollution takes place in England. And also the gray weather, and the constant rain that takes place, which inspires nobody to take any more photographs, [laughter] but somehow, this was just attempt to recapture some kind of idea of anger, or idea of resentful, sort of jaw of some kind, that the two mouths trying to bite, trying to eat this particular space. [Laughter] Which is the idea of wrath, idea of resentment, idea of anger. But at the same time, that since it's not jaws, it's not-- space can't be eaten, so therefore whole thing becomes just a big joke, in some sense, and... Maybe we should refer back to the previous slide, to see how the connection goes.\r\n\r\n\r\n[To projector operator] Can you flip back again now? Can you do it faster than that? Do it again. Next.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=2842.0,2930.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[SLIDE 4: Photo of apple tree]\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd then we have, next one is pleasurable kind of smooth and fantastically rich and very seductive and romantic kind of scene. It's autumn tree, which is completely filled with beautiful apples. This particular shot was taken in Massachusetts, in Charlemont, which is in Massachusetts. And that whole line that goes through the line of trees, that connected with the whole thing somehow seem to be too busy; nevertheless they're been seduced into those beautiful bright red apples. And ready to be eaten, and mouth-watering. Which is somewhat idea of peaceful principle, but not *quite* accurate exactly. But in some sense peaceful is-- there's a lot of gentleness and serenity, as well as there's some sense of seduction is involved.\r\n\r\n\r\n[To projector operator] Can we go back to the first one, just so we can think about the first one? Very first one? Okay. Let's think about it.  [Long pause as photographs cycle on screen]\r\n\r\n\r\nWe didn't have that particular category, what's coming next time, next one, here, is that some sense of idea of that having had some sense of understanding already, that we don't want to limit ourselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=2930.0,3124.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[SLIDE 5: Photo of triangular window in black space]\r\n\r\n\r\nBut at the same time there's some kind of sense of need for limitation, is definitely required. That particular shot was-- I think it's again, in the Coventry Cathedral area, in England. And I like the particular the reversed vision -- instead of having a black triangle in the middle with the picture window, this seem to work the other way around, which is very odd. I don't see why it should happen that way. But there it is. It's a question of narrowing down everything; need for some kind of seeing the glimpse of realization, through the teacher, through the lineage holder, person, teacher, is very important, this point. That seem to be extremely important, from that point of view. This is sort of narrowing down the experience that we've seen in thangkas and shots that we've seen before, as sort of narrowing down into the one basic point: that there is only one way, somehow. And this does not necessarily mean to say, there is a kind of doctrinal, or from that point of view as idea of sectarian or all kinds of words we could use -- dictatorial, all sorts of things. But this case it's just *choiceless* choice. That, when we begin to experience lots of other things, we begin to get more into some kind of basic reality, in which that we can't actually trust ourselves alone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=3124.0,3264.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[SLIDE 6: Marpa thangka]\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd-- [to projector operator] can you move the set a little bit so that little dot on-- underneath his eyes? Whoops, that's on the film, anyway. Okay!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=3264.0,3281.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is same sequence of the picture of the lineage, and this is the Marpa the Translator, who is the father of the Kagyu tradition, teacher of Milarepa, student of Naropa. And that might represent some kind of a common ground to us; seem to be this is basic point. He is a farmer, and he's householder, he's father of seven children, and he's a great scholar, great practitioner, and hot-tempered person, and wouldn't buy anybody's trips. And he's very precise. He is quite arrogant in his own knowledge, learning. At the same time he's quite gentle, and he's good-hearted; whenever there is need for generosity, he always throws a big feast or gives you a fantastic *gift*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=3281.0,3339.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So he is part of that iconographical thangkas that His Holiness Karmapa has in his Rumtek Monastery. And he's usually crewcut hair, that that seem to be his particular style, that his hair is short. And he's wearing a Tibetan sort of cloak, and a white robe, just which is layman's clothes. And he's sitting on his meditation posture. And somewhat he's somewhat fat. And so he's round in his body, and quite possibly sunburnt face. And a very seasoned, well-seasoned Tibetan redneck. [Laughter] [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=3339.0,3406.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We could get into this deity later on, Hevajra, which is his patron deity. And his protector Mahakali, who is here. And his famous students, that Ngokton, who's one of his famous students. And there’s another one here, who's also another renowned disciple of his, here. And there's no picture of Milarepa, because he's in the next thangka, actually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=3406.0,3437.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the whole interesting point here is that such ordinary person, Tibetan redneck person, are included-- *is* included in the lineage tradition, which is a very interesting thing. That they have a lot more to tell, a lot more guts. And he's extremely good fighter -- Marpa was extremely good fighter, he's fantastic person. And he was a great scholar, but nevertheless, that he had a big fight with his fellow students all along. And therefore they trying to sabotage his notebooks, in India; they're trying to destroy his notebooks, and his credentials and everything, but without any obstacles from those people. That he was able to bring the *whole* tantric vajrayana tradition into Tibet, which we are follower of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207#t=3437.0,3500.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76125/file/164207/transcript/39671/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This particular thangka actually represents a sense of immense celebration and dignity, that the \"Great Father\" -- you could say that the Marpa was the Washington of the Kagyupas, or the Tibetan practicing lineage, if you like. I wouldn't say that Marpa never told a lie, for that matter, [laughter], and maybe Washington's better than Marpa. 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