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Styles of neurosis as ways of entertaining ourselves, distracting from boredom of ignorance. Trying to solidify experience. Primordial intelligence as existing simultaneously, sees ignorance, and that self-consciousness as beginning of path.  Exposure to teachings and teacher awakening intelligence. In long and detailed Q\u0026amp;A, audience asks detailed questions about how mind and confusion work; Trungpa Rinpoche stresses experiencing rather than theorizing. Discusses \"panic\" as result of seeing one's confusion, and how staying with it opens one to reality."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Orderly Chaos","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 06"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: ORDERLY CHAOS: Part 2, Chapter 2: The Birth of the Path\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 6 (in contained work ORDERLY CHAOS)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Jun 24 2023 to Apr 22 2024\nTranscribing: Ella Milligan\nChecking: Julia McKaig\nFinal Proof: Ruth Veleta\nOther Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1974"]}}],"summary":{"en":["A talk that prompts a further exploration of the fundamental ground of ignorance we all share, how it gives rise to confusion and neurosis but contains fundamental intelligence. Styles of neurosis as ways of entertaining ourselves, distracting from boredom of ignorance. Trying to solidify experience. Primordial intelligence as existing simultaneously, sees ignorance, and that self-consciousness as beginning of path.  Exposure to teachings and teacher awakening intelligence. In long and detailed Q\u0026amp;A, audience asks detailed questions about how mind and confusion work; Trungpa Rinpoche stresses experiencing rather than theorizing. Discusses \"panic\" as result of seeing one's confusion, and how staying with it opens one to reality."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/283/809/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1754167244","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1754167219_19741223vctr1-audio-prod-ctiautormstr-access.mp3"]},"duration":3894.12569,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/283/809/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1754167244","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/283/809/original/1754167219_19741223vctr1-audio-prod-ctiautormstr-access.mp3?1754167221","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3894.12569,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19741223VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19741223VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Mandala of the Five Buddha Families II - Talk 2]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Mandala of the Five Buddha Families, held at Karme Choling, Vermont. This is talk number two, December 23rd, 1974. This is an ARP digital remaster made June 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This is the seminar on the Mandala of the Five Buddha Families. The following is talk two.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=0.0,31.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Again, I would to like to remind you that what we are discussing here is based on the personal experience level, or more of intuitive level than intellectual one. And what we discussed early on about the fundamentals of ego experience comes with also a lot of energy. That the basic function is a sense of boredom and a sense of familiarity in the primitive ignorance produces further desire to look for some excitement and some kind of adventure. And that adventure becomes somewhat neurotic because not having surveyed the ground and oneself at the same time. And there is the existence of duality begin to happen. And duality, this case, is just at the beginning killing boredom, and then begin to realize that the sense of taking chance is very dangerous. And as you continue on, that things becomes more threatening. And one begin to develop various perspectives of-- various tones of emphasis on various types of style.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=31.0,221.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what's known as the five types of buddha family, this point, are manifested in confused five variations of world, styles: aggressive, intellectual one, or seductive, highly active, or magnetizing, enriching. So that the expressions that tend to come out is expressions of somewhat desperateness and the basic ground. And the desperateness here is somehow being based on the style that one can operate in order to ignore that basic ignorance. So in other word, all the things that's happening in a confused mind is fundamentally way of overcoming boredom and way of entertaining oneself in some point. And in some point way of taking one's mind off from the threats of one might return to background, one might see the sense of embarrassing confusion that does exist and to try and conceal that private parts in oneself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=221.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the analogy is that the various levels of ignorance, and first ignorance is like having a body. That one's style of life is affected by what kind of body one has, and one's behavior pattern is mold around to one's body. There is naturally natural body-consciousness takes place -- like if you are big or if you are small, or if you are fat or thin, or whatever you have, your body's makeup might be, accordingly that you begin to create a way of organizing a smooth operation of behavior accordingly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=420.0,493.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's kind of natural self-consciousness that takes place always. And if you are cold, automatically one never think in terms of \"my body is cold\" but \"*I* am cold and *I'm* hungry\" so forth. There is natural tendency to identify one's body with one's state of existence, being. And that kind of basic ignorance which is constantly there, and whenever there is the area which is uncertain, or slight gap, or unexpected ones of that doesn't go along with the programs that one sets forth for one's own behavior, it doesn't happen. When that doesn't happen somehow there is element of panic and uncertainty, which then pushes oneself to take certain actions. And these actions being connected with various types of style -- mainly in the fashion of five types of styles that takes place. In this case we are not talking in terms of what particular category you personally belong, but we are talking about a general, almost haphazard and random improvisation that takes place constantly in your life, trying to fill the gap and trying to entertain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=493.0,620.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At that level the various types of experience connected with the path of Buddhism, dharma, Buddhist approach to five principles are connected with a sense of intelligent. And somehow that there is also at the same time within that loss of ground. And within that continual self-consciousness there is also sense of intelligent that takes place, which actually it doesn't come from anywhere, doesn't have origin or actually we are uncertain where this come from, from this point. And there is this intelligent which tend to comment on the things that takes place. That intelligent begin to see the function of the self-conscious, basic, primordial ego as it is, and also begin to see the various trips, so to speak, one begin to get into, as far as to safeguard from against boredom or whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=620.0,745.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there is a continual commenting process that takes place, which is beginning of path. And in many cases that that intelligence is inborn intelligence of some kind, without origin, without such birth, birth as such. But that intelligence is awoken, usually, by a help of teacher, or seeing example of someone else's approach, someone else's style, life, and wisdom. But it's not quite simply that such intelligence was given birth by a teacher into your being and-- which is impossible in some sense, that such direct transplantation cannot take place if the intelligence is part of your being -- but quite certainly that such intelligence can be woken. And that's the-- almost the basic kind of process of sabotage or uprising process that takes place to set chaos into the well-settled programs and policies that developed within the ego space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=745.0,848.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And such, in fact, intelligence often work with emotions and work-- often work with ego's tendencies at the same time. So that intelligent is a somewhat transparent one. It does not really take part in any particular area. It does not always act as a sabotager necessarily, but it just act as kind of a hired workman which complains very heavily to the employer, but at the same time works with it. And it takes place in both areas -- that it works with it, and uses intelligence, but at the same time there is undercurrent of percolation takes place at the same time. And that seem to be the birthplace of path takes place. And somehow that begin to exaggerate the neurosis of the five principles more in some sense, because things are getting into a very threatening situation, and also things are getting into very personal, and things becoming much, much closer to heart.\r\n\r\n\r\nWell I think we can go on building up from that level, but maybe we should stop there and have a discussion if you have-- anything is not clarified or further confusion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=848.0,998.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Are the styles that begin to operate determined karmically? I mean, is there a certain sketch that exists, and then you kind of almost automatically fulfill that sketch? Or is there some process of intelligence that spontaneously responds?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's natural and extremely organic, and there is no guidelines, particularly. It is approaching closest of what is available and just doing it. But obviously there is a kind of-- some style which is like the habitual patterns of elements. You know, water flows and the fire burns and that kind of natural thing, yeah. And there is no intelligent from that level *except* that the partial intelligent which is try and avoid -- avoidance to see the original background, which is the only seem to be logical or intelligence function of all. The rest of it is very sort of animal level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=998.0,1090.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: If the neurotic-- the five neurotic styles are based on one's body type, what would the five enlightened styles of energy be based on?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's just a kind of analogy. I suppose one does, but I don't think that has anything to do with the neurosis or reality particularly. That's just a way of functioning. I mean if you have a body you have to behave in certain way. So, there is no guidelines particularly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well, is there any particular reason why one person would fall into one style rather than another? I mean is there any-- is there something in one person-- one's personal makeup that would...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think it's a question of the different form of irritations that involved in terms of relating with the background of ego, that how you wanted to cover up or ignore. And there is a lot of aspect of that, you know, can be dealt with in a different way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Would this carry over from lifetime to lifetime, so to speak?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. It's simply a day-to-day almost kind of thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=1090.0,1209.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: It seems like we're kind of working up into the different levels of consciousness, the eight levels. You were talking before about, today, about the alaya, and then you start talking about this basic notion of duality coming into the \"nyon yi\" [seventh consciousness], or however how you say that. How else does this apply to the other states of consciousness? Is this just furthering the confusion as we sort of evolve into the other states?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, theoretically supposed to be the level of the sixth perception, which is mind. From the eight types of consciousness, the sixth one, the mental faculty, which then relates with the sense perceptions. But I think in this case it's-- also this could cover a lot of areas, you know, like dealing with not only consciousness alone but also dealing with feeling and perception and impulse and those areas of skandhas at the same time. And this is very early stage in some sense, you know, that nothing is really fixed properly but this is just a level of trying to develop a system and trying to grope around. So no rules and regulations are developed, style is developed, but just a groping. So it's level of feeling or like the second skandha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=1209.0,1338.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: When you were talking about the way in which these styles are motivated, I was a little confused, because you referred several times to-- that one aspect of that motive was an avoidance of boredom, to avoid the boredom. And then you mentioned once a sense of threat that one might fade into the background. So is the-- I'm confused about-- are those-- about the motive because you said those two things.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there is, in fact it seem to be lot of them. Those are just a random choice and there are hundreds of other possibilities which begin to find all kinds of areas of irritations and all areas of uncertainties, you know. That there is area of irritation which is hundreds of them, and areas of uncertainty which lot of them, and then all areas of just sort of roaming around in animal stupidity and things happen to be coincide into one situation into another, which is another type. And trad;litionally divided in three sections: area of aggression, area of passion, and area of ignorance. But within that there are a lot of descriptions and there's supposedly 84,000 variations of those. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=1338.0,1438.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I have a-- if you could please clarify the confusion a bit. We talked about the blockage in connection with ignorance and confusion. I'm wondering whether that it means it's the blockage that prevents it-- that prevents us from us trying to see whether we are-- we exist or not. From exploring that whole question whether we exist or not. Whether that's-- that clog of confusion, I mean, that that prevents us--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's the word you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Clog. I think it's the word you used.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, clog, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: That prevents us from investigating the whole question of existence and nonexistence.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think that somehow that never came up, the whole idea of nonexistence or existence never came up. And there is a possibilities of coming up. Until that the word is been heard, that there is a possibilities of nonexistence and the possibilities of intelligence looking back to oneself and finding out and cutting through various trips -- until that level that nothing's been heard, nothing's been, you know, discussed. So, hearing the teachings become very shocking in some sense. And until that, things seemingly smooth and there is a sort of gentleman's agreement and one never talk about those things, or even think about in this case.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Does Naropa-- going back-- Naropa's jumping off roofs and going into sandalwood fires, was that symbolic of him exploring that whole question of existence and nonexistence in some way--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that all the-- you mean in his meeting with Tilopa?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well all of those have connection with that. That there is the-- him marrying the king's daughter, and then the kingdom disappears, and all kinds of other things happens of that, you know. I think all of those things are very much of this kind of thing. That there is a reality of some kind but it is a very painful reality. But then, having experienced the painful reality and you thought you did good job out of it, then somehow you realize the whole thing doesn't exist -- which is also painful because you thought you had achieved something, at least. [Laughter] You know, you managed to break the ice and so there is no ice does exist, you know, to break. So it's that kind of thing, which is actually, obviously, the nature of the path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=1438.0,1651.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED TULSI: Since there are 84,000 combinations of styles, does that mean that it's not possible to go through the human experience in any way that is not somehow conditioned by one of those combinations? Or is there another kind of humanity that's possible?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You want some more?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED TULSI: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Numbers? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED TULSI: [Laughing] No. I mean a way that's free of that. Just as you've often said that arriving at a state of clarity does not indicate-- does not imply psychological suicide. Does that mean that it's not possible to experience-- to have the human experience without being somehow limited by one style or another? Is there a way in which to function without it being filtered that way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there are hundreds of them, yeah, I mean, thousands -- it's not limited only for 84,000 alone. But, in other word, that idea is being that you can't have a complete manual of what the human conditions might be, you know. And if you have to follow up the details of it, but you can only look at from aerial view of it. You know, that the-- where those things derived from, and where they are heading towards, which would be same thing. It's like the analogy of that all the rivers goes to ocean and, you know, that you can predict that much, but you can't name all the rivers that flows in the world. And there is some final conclusion which is trying to exist, you know, trying to prove one's-- trying to live through life without being hurt. And hurt in all sense, you know, even without being slightly hurt but just complete kind of freedom and pleasure-- pleasurable state. And that seem to be the general pattern, you know. And somehow the teaching becomes the opposite in some sense. That it says that that isn't the way particularly. And in fact, as matter of fact, you can't exist, let alone about survival, but survival is the opposite, you know, you're at the wrong end of the stick. So, then we are back to square one. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=1651.0,1826.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I thought Tulsi was trying to ask what-- is it possible to avoid any of those particular styles or angles and just have a completely open experience of humanity without any of the conditionings or any of the colors?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean that is the contents of it. I mean, it's not possible, I can't imagine.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah, the fact that it wasn't-- that it's not possible -- I mean that it seemed to me that that wasn't possible, and that impossibility seems to create the reality or in a sense the essentialness and necessity for the variations of the five buddha families.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, obviously, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But in that comes the question or the mystery of how does that multiplicity or variety come out of that oneness? And you-- your talk has been about that yet, you know, a lot of the questions have been, you know, trying to direct to that point, you know, that mystery point of how does that, you know, variety come out of that one, basic energy. And it still seems to be confusing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean if there is one basic energy, or one basic approach, and there doesn't have to produce another one, but there could produce many -- you know, if you have one big, bad weather and you have hundreds raindrops. [Laughs; laughter] You know, it's impossible. [Laughs; laughter] It's conceivable, and it happens, you know, that the-- like the blind man's version of elephant.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Oh, I see.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You know, that you have different versions, and for the very fact everybody agree together that they are blind. But after that comes a lot of other conclusions, you know. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But then that would require some difference in people, or some-- to create-- or lessen an arbitrary kind of point upon which-- or prism, that it creates different angles through which different colors come through. So that it seems that there would be some duality or something for the-- for, you know, this oneness as something to be affected by [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well where-- as you come out, you come out as from the oneness, I suppose. But when you are on your way, you break into different fractions.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What's breaking you?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Huh?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What's breaking you? That's the question.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's the point. I think the what's breaking you is because of there is more room to play about. When you are not cons-- restricted by the oneness, there is a sense of breaking off from, or better word is \"indulging\" freedom in different ways, different way of indulgence in freedom. That you might come out of same home with your six other brothers and seven other sisters, and each of them step out of your home and beyond restriction of your parents' rule. Then they have-- they assume different lifestyles because they are no longer restricted by the command of the, you know, their parents. And the break takes place because of you want to prove that you exist, in different ways.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=1826.0,2079.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: When you answered Stefan's question it sounded almost as though it was something that you could pick. That you could sort of decide how your response was going to be, in terms of the different styles, that you could pick a style. But I thought when you were answering Mack's question that it was almost as though the style evolved out of this sort of basic background. But that leads me back to Stefan's bewilderment which is, if the basic background is the same, how do the different styles come to be different?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think because basic background has been the same, therefore there could be differences. Otherwise there wouldn't be-- I mean, if the basic background is different then your expressions will be same. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I don't understand that. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think that's worth thinking, actually. [Laughter] That background is being one, so to speak -- not exactly one as one entity but all-pervasive one as filled, you know, all over, so to speak. And then something happens out of that which allows us to, you know, step out. And as we step out, then there is possibilities of moving around that big room.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But it's an interaction--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: For the very fact that the area you're moving out is big one, all-encompassing one, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So it's really sort of an interaction between yourself and the space or how you perceive the space.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah, it is like having big floor that you finally begin to dance, you know, room to move about. And you move because there is oneness with you and your space, and therefore it allows you to more move and gives you some kind of freedom which is, in this case, somewhat distorted, but nevertheless it's kind of looking for freedom of some kind, yeah, to demonstrate one's freedom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=2079.0,2238.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: This may be a question along the same lines, the ones that have been asked. Is there some kind of predetermined wedding or mating between a certain kind of style and a certain kind of style of ignorance that is represented in the mandala. An intelligence -- that it kind of takes a human form as it appears in this energy pattern, you know, a human energy form? Is there predetermined before this energy comes into a human form? Or is it something that's more socialized that happens as a person, you know, grows up and lives in their home and goes out with their six brothers and seven sisters and passes in the world? [Laughter] Is that a socialized response, this style? Or is that more of a-- kind of predetermined?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's more of accident in some sense. It's very hard to answer. It's somewhat it's chance, but there *is* some kind of determining factor which tend to create the chance itself. So in some sense, if I may say so, it's both. But you know it has the both elements in it as well at the same time. And it's not really well-defined as that, you know, particularly. And that there is various-- you are prone to a lot of accidents. And more you become intelligent, more you become prepared for the teachings, that you are prone to more accidents. I mean that somehow the accidents comes out of some kind of intelligence, which is based on weakening of the basic strategy is begin to fall apart slightly, so there is less kind of defense mechanism takes place, so therefore you are prone to more accidents.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=2238.0,2368.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: You were talking about having the basic, all-pervasive oneness, and then all of a sudden something happens. And then all of a sudden there isn't-- there's a duality situation at that point which is-- I think is first skandha, as I understood it from what you said in the first talk, or-- I thought that was the first skandha. What I don't understand is you said-- you also said the reason you could roam about is because you *were* one. It's the situation of being one and not being one at the same time which I find quite paradoxical, [laughing] just to say.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that is the case. [Laughter] Well it's-- I think it, if we intellectualize the whole thing, we could turn the whole thing into a madhyamaka logic, but try not to do that as much as we could. But if use some kind of experiential style this point, which be more efficacious, and that is-- in order to accomplish an experience, you have to have a chance to dance with it. In order to have-- you know, have chance to dance around that experience, you have to have a chance to play, you know, explore. And whenever the exploration takes place you can say that each style of exploration is a different manifestation, but nevertheless it's one-- part of one big game. It's same thing. So it's more of like, the traditional logic says that mala bead -- is mala bead, rosary?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is one. It's not a hundred, because if it's a hundred pieces you can't have one mala. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=2368.0,2516.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Is there something about the totality of the ignorance, the totality of the way the ignorance covers the ground, that each one of these primal energies also covers the ground--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: --in terms of experience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Otherwise you don't function, I mean you have some driving force behind you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: So there's a certain way that intelligence is relating to the totality of the ignorance?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. That's why that the intelligence message of the teachings become more threatening, because there is no room for escape is left. The whole area has been completely covered.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=2516.0,2572.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Can the energy change? Can your basic energy change from birth or the way you manifest yourself from childhood?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose you can change your opinions about things, but energy remains the same thing. But that-- I mean, from childhood to adult level is not particularly big deal -- that's just a question of becoming professional person, [laughter] you know...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: In that family?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Huh?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: In that energy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's same thing. That for the first time you try and unscrew cork from, you know, bottle, wine bottle, and you spill all over. And next time, or third time, or fourth time, fifth time, you become good at. You know, that has nothing to do with the energy particularly. [laughter] It's [laughs] just reasoning mind and physical body-mind coordination. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=2572.0,2641.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: You spoke of trying to fill the gap. Is that the same-- is that gap the same for all people?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think it's not so much of that how-- whether the gap is the same gap, but how much is the boundary -- whether the boundary is fat or thin, the gap is always the same. The gap is depends on the boundary I suppose.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: I don't understand. Is the gap boredom or?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Huh?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Is the gap boredom or feeling empty?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything, you know. Gap is something that you can't, you know, utilize as part of your energy. It's something slightly foreign but it's still part of you -- boredom, uncertainty, ignorance, you know, any gap and absence of ego, for that matter, [laughing] which comes later I suppose. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=2641.0,2708.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Is the sense of panic intelligence? Is this a manifestation of the intelligence that we're talking about?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think it's-- depends on what happens after you panicked. [Laughter] There is a sense of intelligence in the panic. That having panic, then if you don't resort back to more entertainment, and if you let yourself be suspended, little bit, then the-- that panic is much close to the reality, much more \"dharmic\", if we could use that word.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: More precisely aware of what's going on?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah, yeah. The other panic is just you are, you know, diving into more deep water.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=2708.0,2797.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: How do you let yourself suspend yourself? How do you choo-- you know how-- what's the process of turning that way instead of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think this point, if we might go through the whole thing and let what we are going to discuss, what we are discussing is more personal experience, rather than even guidelines to how to solve your problem. [Laughter; laughs] So from that point of view, it's not so much of question of how to do it, but it's question of that somehow letting the panic possess you. And usually what happens is that when the panic arises we brush off, and we trying to occupy something else, you know. And the traditional thing that when the wife panics the husband's had secure the freaky wife or whatever, you know. That there is somebody who is very reasonable, say, \"This is your imagination. Everything's going to be okay.\" [Laughter] \"Don't worry, take a rest or have a glass of milk\" [laughter] or [laughing] whatever. Somehow that if you go along with the panic and if you become the panic -- and there *is* lot of room in the panic because panic is full of air bubbles, so to speak, you know, it's very spacious. You're crackling all the time. And very spacious and *somewhat* unpleasant on the surface, you know it could be a real *thing.* [Laughs; laughter] So, you probably find yourself suspended in the midst of panic, which is suspended in space. It sounds like Coke ad. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=2797.0,2951.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: When one finds oneself in a situation, an uncomfortable or irritating situation, does a person stay with one particular style through that whole situation or does the style change from moment to moment? Or does the style just change as each new problematic situation arises?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's a question of how you-- which particular area you're relating to. And sometimes it change very speedily and sometimes it remains very solid. But I think it depends on the-- your reference point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: On the type of problem that arises?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, and also the type of problem *and* your reference point from outside world coming back to you, and how that relates with the whole thing. And that usually then you act accordingly, you know, you reshape your style or whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=2951.0,3023.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: I remember this old theory in sociology, something about--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: I remember this-- [laughter; laughs] I remember this, like, more radical theory in sociology. One professor was telling me that there was-- you actually have no personality. And it was just situations that were similar, and that people somehow had been conditioned by similar situations and the situations called upon certain-- the certain reactions from them. And I was wondering that -- this is getting far out -- [laughs; laughter] in a certain sense, like when you-- when that basic split happened with the alaya, whatever you call it, that there is a certain what's-ever-going-on calling for-- that kind of stimulates one of the five types of responses, more almost like an astrological positioning of whatever's going on. You know, creating a tendency for that response from that original energy. [Unknown gesture or incident;  laughter] Is that the case? That, you know, just things are going--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is that what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Is that the case that, you know, in terms of Buddhism, would Buddhism go along with that? [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Sounds like we are talking politics. [Laughs; laughter] Well, [laughs; laughter] that's question is very kind of existential, you know, idea, that everybody's been shaped. It depends on the situations. But somehow there is also element in that is ignoring the basic ignorance at the same time. If everybody's reacting according to the situation, if you don't have a personality, then where are you-- when do you-- when would you learn your lessons? And if you can't learn your lessons you constantly reacting to the situations all the time. You be ping-pong-balled all the time and you can't develop egohood or you can't become anything particularly, you be constantly being bouncing back and forth until you die I suppose, even after. We don't know about that. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: The idea would-- it wasn't that there was no intelligence but no particular style and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean style is intelligent, that you begin to collect successive informations of the when you went wrong and when you can go right. And you begin to build your record of that, and then as you become more experienced then you become professional. And in fact somebody else can go to-- come to you and consult you, and you can give professional advice to how to handle the whole thing, which is maybe expressions of ignorance on even professional level, but still nevertheless it is some achievement that takes place.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Well if the style itself is intelligence and that intelligence is coming from that whatever the primordial energy which is, you know, just one energy, it still doesn't-- I still can't see the area or the time or place where the variety takes place.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well maybe the primordial intelligent. I think we got confused there and we got misunderstood there. When we talk about primordial intelligence of the ego level, the ego's primordial intelligence, we are not talking in terms of one intelligent, we are talking about all intelligence. So we are not particularly dealing with one and many as such, we are talking about all and one at the time. All and one at the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=3023.0,3324.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Would that-- does that-- that leads me to this question I've been wondering about. Is it-- in terms of-- is there-- there's this basic split of the-- from the alaya or the first skandha, whatever have you. Are there-- is that just-- does everybody have a certain split? Are we all, you know, in that case, or is there one split that created all this? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think it's all -- all-encompassing, all big space, and out of that. In other word the question is that you don't exist as one little, confused fundamental ego -- your ego is big, gigantic. [Unknown gesture or incident;  laughter; laughs] And you have all-pervasive ego. And everybody else has all-pervasive-- somebody else might all-pervasive ego, you know, which is a different thing. And I'm not saying that we are all child of one ego, particularly. So we all have our egos, we all have our backgrounds, primordial backgrounds, but each of them are big.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: So there's a number of alayas, there's an infinite number of alayas?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, yeah. And that has been actually one of the biggest issues that the debate that went in the tantric-- the philosophy of tantra-cism, so to speak. And that the certain people say that there is only one alaya and the certain people said there's only-- there are many. And that argument went on. But they finally discovered there are many alayas. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Is that going to be published in SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN? [Laughter; Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=3324.0,3471.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Rinpoche, in view of the experience of this present moment as being all that there is, wouldn't it follow that what we call \"personality\" or \"style\" is really a collection of memories or echoes of what proceeds out of this present moment? And if so, wouldn't it follow then that personality is not an organic thing but something which is merely dead, in the past, tracks?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think it's possible that there is some memory which makes that your trip becomes hardened as you go on, you proceed your life. It becomes more daring and more professional troubleshooter, so to speak. [Laughs] But at the same time, that you have-- depends on certain messages that derives from what does exist in life. And so that tend to feed you, and you begin to put them into pigeonholes of your memory. It's not exactly memory as such but it's just a kind of that historical feelings that you preserved in your mind, in bad experience, good experience. Not memory exactly in the sense of, you know, definite details, but you tend to get impressions of things as they are. That-- and then you coincide with what does exist in a life situation at the same time, which then tend to feed your memory or the concept that exist. So, in other word that whole thing seem to be is build out of a sort of dream world and fictional world, of some kind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=3471.0,3642.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: I'm getting a little confused. [Laughs; laughter] In, you know, a lot of the statements made about sort of the basic split from the alaya have-- I think were previously made about, for instance the one mind, what-- you know which is also-- which isn't part of the, let's say the Kagyu tradition at all, as I understand it. Are these two different or-- because one would seem to be, you know, the enlightened state and the other one the ignorant state. You know, are-- there aren't sort of two basic fields from which we sort of oscillate back and forth?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean, are you trying to say that that particular approach-- different particular approaches belongs to different sections of good and bad?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: No, no. For instance, you made the statement that there are many alayas and not one.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Well isn't there-- you know hasn't there been a similar, you know, argument about whether there is one mind or not? For instance, I think this is more in the Hindu tradition where they-- where you-- the idea is to become *one* with the one-mind. And the one-mind is omniscient. For instance, this isn't, as I understand it, let's say, the Buddhist teachings.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think question here is that if you're theorizing, you could dream up, you know, a big mind-- big one-mind, that everybody included in that. But in terms of experience, at least which is very real to us, and from that level, that we experience a totality which is your totality. And you find your neighbors still roaming around in samsaric battleground, you as realizing one-mind. So it's entirely two different world. So we are talking about experience in terms of what happens now, you know, at that point, to you. And you might experience *the* one-mind, but it is worthless to talk about whether this *the* mind is somebody else's mind, or am I getting into my own one-mind? There's no point in, you know, splitting hair, [laughing] at that point. And it's particularly since you have achieved one-mind already, you are not particularly desire to look into the further territorializing, whether this is mine or somebody else's mind in it, in me. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Okay, but tonight specifically when you said about the split from the one -- you know, people have been using that expression, \"when you originally split from the one.\" What-- I was getting confused what that \"one\" was referring back to, you know? Was that referring back to the alaya?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Alaya, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: And would that be-- well, why not from the, let's say from the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: From the all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: --dharmakaya or...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we haven't got that level yet -- we are just talking about halfway through, the territory of samsara level, which is very personal to us. If when we begin to talk about dharmakaya it would be fictional. So we are talking about from the level that we can actually experience or grasp. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809#t=3642.0,3869.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154710/file/283809/transcript/82205/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think I'll let-- should let everybody to have a good night's sleep.\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\nGoodnight.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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