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Meditation, or shamatha, is accepting passion and aggression as they are. Shamatha as subtle way to relate with one's thoughts and emotions with a precise and simple technique. Beyond that, vipashyana, or insight practice, leads to an awareness of the environment one is practicing in. Shamatha and vipashyana as freeing oneself from passion and aggression through observing things as they are, instead of grasping or demanding. Next is mahavipashyana, or greater insight: panoramic vision without a barrier which begins to dissolve passion and aggression. Finally one develops understanding of the absence of barrier, which is shunyata principle.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eJan 26 2021 to Nov 06 2023 Transcribing: Leandra Ziegler Checking: Al SanValentin Final Proof: Ella Milligan Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick, JP Glutting\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eThe stages of meditation practice in relation to passion and aggression. Meditation, or shamatha, is accepting passion and aggression as they are. Shamatha as subtle way to relate with one's thoughts and emotions with a precise and simple technique. Beyond that, vipashyana, or insight practice, leads to an awareness of the environment one is practicing in. Shamatha and vipashyana as freeing oneself from passion and aggression through observing things as they are, instead of grasping or demanding. Next is mahavipashyana, or greater insight: panoramic vision without a barrier which begins to dissolve passion and aggression. Finally one develops understanding of the absence of barrier, which is shunyata principle.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/213/807/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1699318789","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1699318772_19711010VCTR2-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":2082.22038,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/213/807/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1699318789","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/213/807/original/1699318772_19711010VCTR2-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3?1699318774","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2082.22038,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711010VCTR2-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19711010VCTR2 - Public Seminar - Montreal - Passion and Aggression - Talk 4]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled \"Passion and Aggression,\" given in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. This is Talk Four, given on October 9th, 1971. This is a CTI Auto-Remaster made October 2023.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on Passion and Aggression, held in Montreal in October, 1971. This will talk number four, October 10th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=0.0,49.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Having discussed already the ego development, and is developed a relationship to aggression and passion, that it seems to be appropriate situation to get into different stages of meditation practice relate with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=49.0,81.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that meditation practice relate with that might appear as therapeutic practice, but at the same time it is not such, or for that matter medicine -- at all. And the basic principle of that is that because if you regard it as a medicine that there is a separation between yourself and the drug, and you are taking this particular medicine in order to cure yourself. And no doubt that there is a certain amount of pain and confusion that goes around with that basic mental psychology, psychological neurosis, that happens in terms of development of patient -- passion and aggression. So the peak point of passion and aggression is associated with-- accompanied by related situation of thought process. Which trying to keep the circulation of neurosis keep going, mental pain keeps going, because both passion and aggression contains basic psychological dissatisfaction and pain. And from that point that meditation practice is not particularly regarded as, as I said already, as mental gymnastic practice to subdue the pain as such, but to accept the whole process as it is. And that seem to be the path or the whole practice that concern to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=81.0,223.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that practice that concerned with dealing with neurosis, as well as its circulation that been created by little thoughts which concerns the past and present and future, had to be dealt with by certain practice that we discussed last night, as well, but it is again worth repeating again. It's what's called the practice of \"shamatha\" or \"development of peace\". And that state of development of peace is based on providing some subtle means to relate with one's thoughts and one's emotions in its unharmful process. Unharmful in terms of that they don't provide dramatic situation of, for instance, murdering somebody or that kind of situation, but it's still act as a kind of basic circulation, blood system, in order to maintain the-- in order to survive that of ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=223.0,316.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And first stage of shamatha, development of peace, is simply dealing with actual techniques, actual practices that has been given in terms of technique. And usually techniques consist of like working on the breathing, as well as working on the physical movement like walking. That working on the breathing is very minute and very precise activity which is connected with developing precision and sharpness of your practice. That that particular precision and sharpness is being dealt with not concentration or not meditating on it in the popular sense, but completely identifying, completely being sensitive to the techniques, becoming one with it completely. So becoming one with that particular technique is part of the whole process, that you develop very subtle process at the preliminary stage, like you be aware of that you're breathing and that your breathing is coming out and that your breathing is expanding, that your breathing is dissolving into the space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=316.0,433.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Similarly that you have the walking practice which is based on a specific technique which is based on especially relating with the whole movement. That is to say lifting your right foot, and carrying up and swinging over, touching the ground, and pressing. That very specialized movement of your physical body provides a certain amount of satisfaction and comfort of being one with the simplicity of the moment. You could say that it is comparable to watching autumn leaves coming out of the tree branch, and it's being blown about, swinging around in the air, and gently touching the ground and landing on the ground, and finally it is on the ground. That kind of very precise vision of the whole thing, based on a very basic precision.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=433.0,498.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that precision of subtlety of the whole, simplicity of this breathing or walking practice, is based on what's called shamatha which is development of peace. When we talk about peace in this case, it's not so much peace in terms of tranquility as such, but it is the pleasurable situation of simplicity, that something is real, something's obvious. Similar concept is that poet who writes poetry might feel his satisfaction of writing his experience down on paper and pencil, providing, experiencing, or telling all the details of the precision of the-- his poetical work. And particularly I mean similar thing connected with the reality of nature and the simplicity of nature which could find out in Japanese poetry, haikus of all types, explains that details of that precision which brings the aesthetic appreciation as well as basic ground of sureness of things really do happen that way","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=498.0,581.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And somehow from that point that we have to leap into beyond that level which is, again, based on practice of absence of aggression and passion. That is to say that instead of being specific way of appreciating the things as they are, that person also develops what's called \"vipashyana\" practice, or \"lhakthong\", insight practice which leads into further, greater, process, that you feel not only the precision of things as they are but space where those things actually happening. Which is environmental feeling that movement of your leg, movement of your breath, is happening in that certain, basic space. That everything's-- activities happens in the space as it is, so the appreciation of whole environment of the space as it is. As far as the-- that particular practice is concerned, that there is no specifying in terms of how to conduct the whole thing but just general comprehension of the territory or the area where all these subtle and solid things takes place. And that brings, as \"vipashyana\" means, is \"insight\", or clear comprehension of the environment of everything that happens. And that particular practice of shamatha and vipashyana is way of freeing from oneself from the aggression, aggressive quality of demanding territory, demanding situation as it ought to be, as you would like to be. And whole thing is that based on whole substance of passion, because you're not trying to grasp anything, but you're trying to observe things as they are, completely and thoroughly and fully.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=581.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And next situation seem to happen from that level is that there is a basic pattern which is something more than just purely being aware of meticulous quality of things -- movements of your breath, the movements of your leg, movements of things happens around you, as well as the space where these things takes place -- but you relate with something much more wider than that. That is to begin to realize the-- that fascination that you involve with whole this, all of this -- these fascinations come from watching all these details too much. So what's called \"mahavipashyana\" or the \"greater insight\" begin to develop by practice of constant meditation. That greater vipashyana comes from not only by sitting alone but in everyday life as well. But whole thing is based on that which keeps you away from seeing things as they are in terms of shamatha or development of peace, and that which fail you to see the environment as it is, but that which associate you and your projections as complete picture, that you are in complete, one piece situation. That you don't regard external things as they are, but you don't have to regard internal things as they are at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=720.0,833.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that point that what's called mahavipshyana is also associated with the daily living situation. When you do things, you do things; when you don't do things, you don't do things. It's very simple and direct related situation providing complete panoramic vision without a barrier -- in fact without a division between watcher and what being watched. And at that point, that person also deals everyday individual life, as well as details of the living situation of energies or emotions or whatevers comes up, one begin to deal with it, one begin to develop that basic principle of dealing with the whole situation. That dealing with the whole situation needs precision, needs particular discipline of willing to go, willing to relax, and willing to let go, completely and thoroughly, completely beyond to the level of any individualized self-motive of any kind. At that point the both aggression and passion begin to dissolve into-- or the pain for that matter begin to dissolve into the precision of things as they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=833.0,951.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And beyond that level that person develops the understanding of absence of barrier which is what's called \"shunyata principle\", which doesn't need particular technique or practices of any special type but just simply being there. Whether person in meditative state of particular daily schedule or whether person is in a particular terms of living situation, it seem to be the whole thing. And at that point that reality of world becomes transparent, or illusory, in a sense that because you begin to see the absence of barrier so much and so clear, that whole process of reality of the world becomes definitely... transparent, because there doesn't contain your version of the world anymore. But at the same time that world contains something very flowing, fluid and easy, spacious. That that particular living situation becomes part of one's basic make-up.\r\n\r\n\r\nPerhaps we should stop there and have a discussion on it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=951.0,1058.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What do you mean by being precise?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What do you mean by being precise?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Being what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Precise.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because there's nothing to be imprecise. You begin to perceive the living situation, absence of barrier.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: How does one *be* precise?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't try to be precise, you are.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What is there to do?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm? What there's to do?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's the whole point, you don't do anything. It is so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1058.0,1106.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What you’ve described so far I have always associated with the hinayana path, especially in Theravada Buddhism. How does what you are teaching differ from that and the fruits, of say, arhat-ship or pratyekabuddha-hood?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's depends on the level of shamatha and the level of vipashyana. In fact that we can't really divide that particular teaching is involved with hinayana or the mahayana, or the vajrayana for that matter. That whole thing contains simultaneously together -- depends on the viewer. You don't make divisions. You don't make divisions at all. And in terms of pratyeka which means in terms of \"shravaka\" which means the \"learning and hearing\", which is a preliminary introduction to the teaching; and in terms of \"pratyekabuddha\" which means \"self-enlightened person\", which practices self-discipline, almost in the level of shamatha and vipashyana without mahavipashyana.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You're saying he practices self-discipline, which-- well anyway, when you're talking about discipline, where is this discipline? You just said that there isn't any.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that is discipline in itself. It takes very long time to not have discipline because we want to do something constantly. And once we get completely let loose, in terms of not introduce any new areas of any kind of at all, it becomes very barren and very severe situation, like you're entering into a room without any furnitures, without any other equipments, you're just entering into bare minimum room.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well does this formless path have any manifestation in the world of form that we live in?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that is, in itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I don’t understand.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that is world of form in itself, because you begin to see the absence of form aspect of the form world. But at the same time that person is diverted from actual application of mahavipashyana, therefore person has no energy involved at that point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1106.0,1273.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Your state of transcendental wisdom and your sensitivity to the needs of this group -- what would you say is more important for us, the majority of us at this time: the lofty discussion of transcendental wisdom, or the actual practice of meditation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm. I think both, because it's been traditional practice throughout all the ages that it is been said that understanding intellectual, without that which-- without intellectual understanding and blind practice is like a person without a limb trying to climb up a rock. And also at the same time, person who had no practice without intellectual understanding is like blind trying to walk in the street. So it simultaneously be emphasis on all traditions, that you can't have just blind faith practice, or you can't have just intellectual speculation alone, that both had to met together, and it had to be simultaneously; that practice and study should happen together at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] wise for a person to walk around saying \"well here I am\" when they're truly not there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well if you have to say that, that sounds very brave. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1273.0,1395.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: In this business of seeing space -- being within space and everything that's very there, getting, you know, eliminating all of that, and just seeing the space -- the other side of it is that sometimes we're not aware of things as they are, as we're not aware of form, and we're living without that kind of perception. So in that case you would be aware of form, would you not, because there is a place where you attend to all these things that are about you and absorb them?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Absorbing?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In absorbing?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Just the world that you're in. People's faces and trees and the farms that are about us.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: That you have spoken about seeing things as they are.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Which I had taken to mean to be aware of form.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, aware of form.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah, yeah, right. That you're-- then you were talking about seeing things as though they were bare and seeing the-- that is, eliminating the detail.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Which is moving both way-- you work on both axis.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean, you don't see things as they are completely, if you don't have that particular perception. You're seeing things according to with your version rather than things as they are completely. But when you be take-- remove that barrier of your version, and then you become quite familiar with things as they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1395.0,1503.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Are you ever surprised?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Are you ever surprised?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Constantly. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is that to mean that one cannot acquire control over the images, that they just flow by, that it's hopeless to try to control?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. Because controlling matter comes from practice of meditation, sitting down and practicing meditation and that you become familiarized with living world as they are. And then after that, you begin to perceive much more deeper and much more precise.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: But things still surprise you? Meaning that they catch you unawares or something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's the play, which is beautiful.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [INAUDIBLE] And yet you feel safe that the surprises are always going to be, you know, good surprises?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well safety doesn't apply at that point. It's just surprise, naked surprise.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: So I understand you had an accident and you were surprised by the accident, yet you were indifferent, it was just play to you, you couldn't be bothered by the consequences?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Delighted. *Delighted*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Really?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6:That's far out! [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not really.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1503.0,1587.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: When you are able to attain, or if you're able to attain, the state-- the fluid state, where you flow with everything around you, or [INAUDIBLE] , are you one with it or are you one with it and yet separate from it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you are one with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But you still pursue, you still--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: At the same time you see the differences. Because you're one with it, therefore you see the differences, completely, precisely, for the reason because you're one with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: And at that point you are able to see things as they are?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, which means--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Including yourself--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah which--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --and your relationship to it [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --which means that you have see things in discriminating wisdom, happens there at the same time as well as equanimity.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: That's a good feeling. But to attain that must be a frightening experience, to let go.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well because you don't mind letting go you thinking of \"that can't happen, this can't happen to me because I'm not advanced person,\" and you have constant fears of all sorts of things happens. Which is the-- which makes you deaf and dumb, not able to hear the teaching. But once you're able to relate to that as eye-level relationship then you are already good candidate for it. Of course that equally means that you lose your individual entertainment; that you regard the whole thing as separate and that separate thing entertaining you constantly, you lose that notion, which is rather depressing in a way. From this day onward, that beyond that situation, there's no one entertaining you, everything you see as they are, and one have to let loose from that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1587.0,1714.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Have you a need for stimulation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Have you-- have I what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: A need for stimulation. That is if someone said, “Now go into seclusion for x number of months,” or something, would that at all...? Do you have need for stimulation in all its forms--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --and all its forms.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --I think that point, you-- I wouldn't say exactly stimulation but you have to face the facts. In order to face the facts you have to have familiarize with the facts and you have to have equal direction, equal understanding with the facts, and you finally come to conclusion of the facts. So you do have to have some kind of familiarizing process, you do have to have, but I wouldn't call it stimulation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1714.0,1762.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Aren't facts just illusory? What need is there to become familiar with facts if they're the basis of materialism and the scientific approach, which has proven itself to be not firmly based?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well they are firmly based in a sense that they are illusion, there's no doubt about that. But that relative truth is itself absolute -- relatively speaking. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Think about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1762.0,1806.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: If you have it so that your thoughts and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you have what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: If you have it so that your thoughts or, you know, the structures in your mind, are not in agreement with your, you know feelings, whatever your experience is, then you're really split. And that I'm now talking about this idea, say, of you're talking about the reality of the world becoming transparent, but it then-- you then start to experience it as fluid and spacious. And that therefore the idea of the personality of myself, say, in an environment is really an illusion, and that what really exist that I-- each one of us is an energy in a network of energies, in the field of energies, because that's really all that exist is energy.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1806.0,1866.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Why is there desire?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Why is there desire?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because you want to be desired.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: But why do you want... It seems that [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because that makes you happier, pleasurable.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: But is desire -- [Laughs] I don't--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Sex?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: --I don't want to play with words but... is desire something to be desired?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's purely up to the desire, it's... I mean, it's never end. There's no end to it -- or there's no beginning, so it ends by itself. Desire maintains desire, because it doesn't allow any external outlet of any kind. So if you ask desire why there should be desire, desire would say \"why not?\" But that's meaning in itself, end in itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: But desire is-- isn't desire the cause of suffering?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it is. There's no doubt about that. It's pain.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: And happiness.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Happiness as well, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: So is there any-- what is-- is there any getting away from suffering and happiness -- from the state of happiness and depression, from desire?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well to see the foolishness of the whole thing, that that is in itself a very exclusive game which has no end.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Is it just like a bird's eye view, watching? And a self watching this and saying \"well, I'm suffering, and that's it\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You just don't leave-- you can't leave it there: \"I'm suffering and that's it.\" Nobody can accept that. Until person said \"this is foolish, I have to get out of this,\" otherwise, you are in vicious circle.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: But how can you get out of it if the-- if desire is always there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because desire is there, therefore you get out of it. There's something to work on. If desire is not there, you can't work out -- you can't step out.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Step out to where?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Step out of both pain and pleasure, which causes desire. Of the karmic force.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: How can you step out unless you step out to something?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's remains a mystery, that you don't have to step *from* somewhere to somewhere, but you just step out. Because beyond that the language of ego doesn't apply anymore. We are talking purely in terms of relative language of ego, from that point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: It seems to show limitations of talking about these things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1866.0,2073.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61170/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think, talking about limitation, we should end our discussion tonight. We have further talks tomorrow.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=2073.0,2082.22038"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711010VCTR2-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE:\nThis is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa 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Canada.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=8.71,11.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is Talk Four,\ngiven on October 9th, 1971.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=12.27,17.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a CTI Auto-Remaster\nmade October 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Aggression,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=29.01,30.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"held in Montreal\nin October, 1971.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=31.63,34.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This will talk number four,\nOctober 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you--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1730.99,1732.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I wouldn't say\nexactly stimulation\nbut you have to face the facts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1732.75,1736.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In order to face the facts\nyou have to have familiarize\nwith the 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facts","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1765.05,1767.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if they're the basis\nof materialism\nand the scientific approach,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1767.43,1772.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which has proven itself\nto be not firmly 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itself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1909.54,1914.05"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Desire maintains desire,\nbecause it doesn't allow\nany external outlet of any kind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1916.42,1923.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So if you ask desire\nwhy there should be desire,\ndesire would say \"why 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thing,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1960.05,1962.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/406","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that that is in itself\na very exclusive game\nwhich has no end.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1962.81,1969.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/407","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11:\nIs it just like\na bird's eye view, watching?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1969.41,1972.06"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/408","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And a self watching this\nand saying \"well, I'm suffering,\nand that's it\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1972.06,1975.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/409","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nYou just don't leave--\nyou can't leave it there:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1977.79,1980.07"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/410","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"I'm suffering and that's it.\"\nNobody can accept that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1980.07,1982.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/411","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Until person said\n\"this is foolish,\nI have to get out of this,\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1984.17,1988.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/412","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"otherwise, you are\nin vicious circle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1988.72,1990.57"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/413","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11:\nBut how can you get out of it if\nthe-- if desire is always there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1991.52,1996.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/414","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nBecause desire is there,\ntherefore you get out of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=1998.21,2001.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/415","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's something to work on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=2001.36,2002.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/416","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If desire is not there,\nyou can't work out --\nyou can't step out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=2003.5,2006.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/417","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11: Step out to where?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=2007.75,2009.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/418","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nStep out of both pain\nand pleasure,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=2009.77,2012.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/419","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which causes desire.\nOf the karmic force.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=2014.93,2019.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/420","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11:\nHow can you step out unless\nyou step out to something?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=2023.69,2028.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/421","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nWell that's remains a mystery,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=2031.05,2033.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/422","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that you don't have to step\n*from* somewhere to somewhere,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807#t=2033.22,2037.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/111722/file/213807/transcript/61171/annotation/423","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but you just step out.\nBecause beyond that the language\nof ego doesn't apply 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