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In the hinayana, we acknowledge the problem of suffering (the first noble truth). However, this understanding creates more problems of viewing our experiences of pain, pleasure, and confusion as proof that we exist. In the mahayana, we interrogate this perspective. The shunyata, or emptiness, principle transcends the dualistic barrier. Central to this path is the bodhisattva vow where we give up the ambition of attaining enlightenment, and instead, devote ourselves to working with other sentient beings. The vajrayana is an experience of the phenomenal world just as it is, unobscured by dualism. It also contains symbolic feedback from the phenomenal world.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 12 2024 to Jun 15 2025 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: JP Glutting Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Blaire Martin\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1972"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAbout the three yanas: the hinayana, or foundational, path; the mahayana, or bodhisattva, path; and the vajrayana, or tantric, path. In the hinayana, we acknowledge the problem of suffering (the first noble truth). However, this understanding creates more problems of viewing our experiences of pain, pleasure, and confusion as proof that we exist. In the mahayana, we interrogate this perspective. The shunyata, or emptiness, principle transcends the dualistic barrier. Central to this path is the bodhisattva vow where we give up the ambition of attaining enlightenment, and instead, devote ourselves to working with other sentient beings. The vajrayana is an experience of the phenomenal world just as it is, unobscured by dualism. It also contains symbolic feedback from the phenomenal world.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/550/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759344847","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20251001-2006876-zssnr5.mpga"]},"duration":3658.01019,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/550/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759344847","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/293/550/original/open-uri20251001-2006876-zssnr5.mpga?1759343377","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3658.01019,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720210VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19720210VCTR1 - University of Colorado - Boulder - Spring 1972 - Class 4]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, University of Colorado Classes, 1972, held at the University of Colorado. This is class number four, Hinayana, Mahayana, and Vajrayana, held February 10th, 1972.\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is a CTI custom remaster made September 2024.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=0.0,22.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTRODUCTION]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Speaking quietly] I think you could say something.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: [Whispering] Okay. What [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Speaking quietly] Well just probably go through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=22.0,47.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JOHN BAKER: Well, this is the last lecture that will be given on Buddhism, and we're going to start with Krishnamurti. If we go through this very rapidly, there's been a great deal that was left out. To summarize the whole mahayana in one lecture, that I did last week, it's [laughs] quite a trip. But we've asked Rinpoche to speak tonight -- he was actually talking before we finished, we could give-- we could ask Rinpoche to speak on something of the whole overview of Tibetan Buddhism, meaning the three divisions of Buddhism: hinayana, mahayana, and the vajrayana. So, without further ado...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Whispering] I see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=47.0,140.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: LECTURE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There is one particular correction I would like to make, is that there is no such thing as Tibetan Buddhism, but Buddhism in Tibet, maybe. And it seem that Tibetan Buddhism, or Japanese Buddhism, have a certain connotation with a definite way of changing the whole ideas to fit their particular categories of their mind of the inhabitants. As far as Buddhism in Tibet is concerned, that Tibetans didn't develop Buddhism, but Buddhism developed in Tibet. And we still follow the same principles or the same process that had developed in India as well. So fundamentally speaking, Buddhism that developed in Tibet is also Indian Buddhism. And it follows the same logical process, the same process of philosophy, theology, what have you. And Buddhism in Tibet developed into categories of practice and experience, on the two levels, as much as that any kind of religious scene could develop. As the practice, the church, and experience the practice the church practices, which could be same thing in any country, whether you are Christian or whether you are Muhammadan, whether you are Zoroastrian, whether you are Sikhism, what have you. There is the practice, there is the pra-- there is the knowledge of the practice. So Buddhism in Tibet takes same shape as that much of Ceylon or Burma or Thailand. That might disturb the archeologists, that they cannot pick out particular characteristics, and the whole thing has been same. But as far as the practice of meditation and the practice of Buddhism is concerned it's same, all over the country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=140.0,356.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have three different aspects of Buddhism: that of the \"hinayana\", \"lesser vehicle\"; that of the \"mahayana\", the \"great vehicle\"; that of the \"vajrayana\", the \"diamond vehicle.\" Three categories involved with Buddhism altogether. Development of hinayana is the first introduction of Buddhism. And development of mahayana is the second development in Buddhism, where the Hindus -- or the heretics from Buddhist point of view -- attacked the idea of existence of Buddhist knowledge, Buddhist wisdom, developed philosophical way of looking at the Buddhism, concretely, properly. And the vajrayanists developed also because the heretics begin to see Buddhism as worthless, there's no profundity of anything at all. Vajrayanists developed, which is based on the three different stages of life of Buddha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=356.0,440.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Buddha was born and looked upon his life situation as it is. He begin to discover the pain, neurosis of human mind, and hinayana developed. First turning of wheel of the dharma, wheel of doctrine, is developed. And then you have the second turning of wheel of doctrine, which is life is pain and dissatisfaction, but at the same time there is also way to look at that life. And thirdly, that life is not all that trying to solve the solution, but life contains joy or bliss, excitement, energy -- the vajrayana developed. So whole teachings of Buddha developed in three aspects of attainment of enlightenment at twenty-four, when he was twenty-four years old, until when he was eighty. The teachings presented coincide with whole this process as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=440.0,530.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we could start on the first principle of hinayana, why it's called a lesser vehicle, smaller vehicle, narrow-minded, involved with the doctrinal principles. Things shouldn't be as we think, but things ought to be as we see, as we perceive. Things shouldn't be as we would like to be, but things ought to be as it is. Still there's dogma involved. Who said that \"ought to be\"? Ego says so. We pai-- we feel pain. We feel pleasure. Pleasure is real, pain is real. So things must be as they are, after all. Pain -- what is pain? Let's look at it in psychologically. That which experience pleasure, that which look at the situation of, \"I want to get some personal experience of maintaining myself so that I'm full-fledged human being. So I should be-- I should have right to experience pain and pleasure, so that I could prove myself full-fledged human being. That I have ego, I have fight. What am I-- what I'm fighting is legitimate because I feel what I have right to fight, what I have right to protect myself against from something. In other word, I want to become self-righteous, I want to become perfect person, so that I could refute my enemies.\" Pain comes from comparison. \"Am I real?\" That's a question. We are not exactly certain. One never knows. [Laughs] But nevertheless, \"Pain seem to be real, so therefore I must be real. Pleasure seem to be real, therefore I must be real.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=530.0,718.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we can't start anything from here, but we start from there. That's what's called dualistic split, in terms of ego. Same thing as when we try to buy merchandise. \"Am I buying expensive thing? I can't understand my merchandise. But I can only understand it by the comparison of the price of the-- my merchandise. If this particular stuff is a million dollars' worth, then I must be getting something extraordinarily rare, extraordinarily rich thing, because it cost a million dollars.\" But we do not know, we are not expert. So from that point of view ego-- understand ego is-- nobody's under-- nobody's expert in the sense of understand of ego at all. Ego is hypothetical thing. But we judge by what we get out of it. If pain is real, pain is oppressive, pain is terrifying, irritating, then there must be something which experience pain, but we don't know that exactly, at all. Hypothetical, extremely hypothetical. We could say that \"I experience pain\" but that's based on the pain itself, already. So we don't have any landmarks of who is experience, what is the intensity of the pain at all -- it's based on purely hypothetical reasons.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=718.0,844.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The first hinayana way of looking at life is based on that particular logic: \"If somebody die, if somebody got sick, there must be someone to get sick, someone to get die.\" Whole logic is based on that sickness, that death is apparent phenomena situation. \"Because the phenomena situation exist therefore there must be someone to relate with that, there must be.\" Which is the first noble truth of \"we are dissatisfied with our life, what we are doing. We would like to see further, more meaning in life, constantly. Life must be-- must bring a message.\" But we do not know. It seem to be-- it seemingly bring message, hypothetical situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=844.0,934.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The logical structure of our mind is extremely cunning, up to a point. And up to a point it is extremely self-deceptive. We don't work on one base, but we try to bounce back on something else or our confusion. When confusion bounce back on us, then we say, \"Ah, there is confusion, there must-- therefore I must be the perceiver of the confusion.\" So we constantly tend do that all the time. We generally create uncertainty. Uncertainty and its paranoia throws out. That paranoia bounce back on us so therefore that initiate our uncertainty, therefore we must be-- something definitely uncertain person -- uncertainty in the sense of solid person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=934.0,1004.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seem that in many cases that lot of us involved here in the spiritual search is related with such search, such quest. That we begin to feel something is not quite all right. We want to get into some kind of meaningful existence, spiritually, healthy. In order to do that we have to bring out the questions. We trust so much to the questions, hoping that those questions must contain some answer, that's why we get into it. But we don't actually experience the answers at all. We are just thriving on the questions. We are thriving on the busyness of the speed of the questions involved constantly. That's four noble-- first truth of pain and origin of pain, and discovering of the cessation of pain, discovering of the path. Whole process of four noble truths takes that particular pattern. So hinayana is basically looking into some particular situation in which that we could discover source of the problem. But we don't discover the source of problem at all -- we just recreate further problems, spiritual problems. That's the function of hinayana. Acknowledging the problem, recreating the further problem, trying to bring out our subconscious level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=1004.0,1121.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then we have the mahayana situation, which means \"great vehicle.\" Which discuss the \"Do we have to find the problem to prove ourselves? Discovering the problem or negating problem or understanding problem -- is this the only way, or not?\" Apparently not. \"Where does the problem begin? Who said there is a problem? Who on earth said there's problem? What really mean 'problem'? How do we know there is a problem at all? Who told you there is a problem? Is this from your upbringings in your school educational system? Did your daddy tell you there is a problem? Did your mommy tell you there's a problem? How on earth such thing as problem does exist? Where does this problem come from at all?\" [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=1121.0,1202.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"On the other hand, \"What is problem? What do you really mean 'problem'? Problem about what? What you talking about? Be precise.\" [Laughter] \"Problem about something,\" you would say. \"There seem to be something wrong in somewhere. [Laughter] Something's not quite right. Something, somewhere is bugging me. [Laughter] But I'm sorry, I can't tell you, but you know what I mean.\" [Laughter] \"That's not a good answer. I know you experience pain, I know you experience pleasure. I know you experience longing-ness to find some answer. Nevertheless, what ground did you have to have solid ground to search for such thing? What makes you not give up hope, at all? What happens?\" \"Well, there is problem. I want to solve it.\" \"Why do you want to solve that problem? What happens after that if you solve the problem? As far as I see it that your existence of livelihood is dwelling on the problem. If I solve your problem, that you going to commit suicide, because you have no purpose of living anymore. [Laughter] You lose your identity and everything.\" Situation comes at that point is one wonders what is really problem, what isn't problem, what is question, what isn't answer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=1202.0,1401.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that searching in itself becomes the barrier of itself. Because you want to search for something, therefore you are begin to separate yourself from the knowledge. You create concept, ideas of the answer or the ideas of solving the problem, or ideas of something that you going to achieve out of that. That in itself is problem in itself. So that's what the mahayana situation trying to deal with is that what's called shunyata principle. \"Don't try to solve your problem, give up hope all the time, constantly. Take your bodhisattva vow. Say that 'From today onward, I'm going to give up attainment of enlightenment. I'm not become Buddha anymore, but I'm going to work with sentient beings, rest of my life, eternally.' Give up, say that. Go ahead and say that. Believe in that. I'm not going to continue my pursuit anymore at all. Take a vow of bodhisattva. Give up that search, give up that goal. Give up being good guy.\" [Laughter] Still you may practice generosity, patience, morality, energy, meditation, knowledge. You go through all these process. But nevertheless those are no means to become your buddha, at all. These are just your daily existence. You might have bacon, eggs, steak, vegetables, tea. [Laughing] Water. Milk. [Laughter; laughs] Your daily requirements. [Laughter] Nevertheless, you are not getting anything out of this except what you exist on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=1401.0,1597.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the mahayana tradition of giving up hope of attaining enlightenment but working with sentient beings, that the vow of compassion is vow of giving up goal, ambition. Because ambition is the barrier at this particular point. Constantly happens all the time. Hope of attaining enlightenment or discovering your confusion is also painful situation. It is also part of the confusion. As well as attainment of enlightenment, also hang-up, because you have certain goal, aim, object involved with the whole thing. Be generous because purpose of being generous. Regard the whole thing as livelihood. That's precisely means \"paramita\" in Sanskrit word, which means \"transcending on the other shore\", which means other side of the river, other shore. Paramita. Which means just behave as it is. Get to the other shore without big deal -- just go ahead and do it. So what? You're on other side of the shore. Continual practice. You have a long way to go if you go to other shore. That's not big deal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=1597.0,1725.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then we have the next situation. The inspiration of shunyata, experiencing the removing the dualistic dichotomy -- what you been told, what you been indoctrinated been removed already. So you have what you might be, sense of what you might be, sense of what you could be, in terms of transcending the dualistic barrier. And that situation is very, very tricky from that point of view. Just purely related what you are, what you might be -- purely in terms of transcending hope and fear. If you remove hope and fear on the living situation, then you don't find any further things but you begin to see things clearly, precisely, as it is, directly as it is. Six practice of paramita of bodhisattva's path is a part of that. Seeing things as it is; don't expect anything in return and don't try to manufacture anything out of that; don't experience magical situation on the process, just be on the spot of practice of what you are; be generous without any return; be patience without any expectations in return. Precisely trying to get into the situation as it is, directly. That is experience of shunyata, in a sense, the absence of nondualistic-- absence of dualistic situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=1725.0,1853.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And vajrayana situation is quite different from that point. Vajrayana -- \"vajra\" literally means \"adamantine\" or \"noble stone, diamond, indestructible quality.\" Because of that indestructible quality, vajra, therefore it has the most efficient and most apt vehicle, \"yana\" which means \"vehicle\", that involved in the process of path. Which means there's continual practices that involved with the practices, or the continuity, from the nondualistic process that we have experienced already. From the nondualistic practices, nondualistic understanding of things as they are actually, without hope and fear of bodhisattva's point of view, then maybe we don't have to approach the whole process as defensively as we thought of. That we could approach whole thing as creatively.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=1853.0,1949.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the vajrayana principle is trying to bring creative process from the hinayana, and the mahayana has been very defensive of trying to reduce the all kind of inspirations into one simplicity, transcending that or transcending this. In the case of vajrayana, extending your tentacles and trying to experience something actually living there. First glimpse of actual experience of living situation. There is existence of sound, there is existence of colors, there is existence of emotions, there is existence of sight, there is existence of feeling. But all of them could be seen in nondualistic way, but nevertheless they are what they are -- they do exist actually. Relate with the whole process as a living situation, actually living situation, without any question. Cosmic or organic situation. When we see a red light in the traffic, that means \"stop.\" When we see green light, that means \"go.\" When we see white flag flying, that means \"I surrender to you.\" Things do have meaning behind them. As long as we don't relate with hope and fear, but things as they are, means a lot to us.\r\n\r\n\r\nWell let's take example. I wonder what you think if somebody paint picture of bird on a blank sheet of paper. What does it mean? Can anybody say anything about it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Flying?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Flying?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But flying where? If somebody paint picture of bird in a blank sheet of paper, what would you think that picture is consist of?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Color and form.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Color and form?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're being too philosophical. Anybody?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You once said it was space.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who said that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You did. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anybody?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm? If somebody paint picture on the piece of paper, with birds in it, what would you say? What is that portrait of what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE] that--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Portrait of birds.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Portrait of birds. I--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's what I mean.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [UNCLEAR: You can see?] it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You just see it, I don't have to say anything.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You would just see it, you wouldn't think anything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't have to what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: See it [INAUDIBLE]. You can see it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well of course you can see it. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: [INAUDIBLE] you probably painted it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Means you probably painted it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Of course, but so what? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Why does it have to be anything?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It happens to be something. [Laughter] It be can't it be too subtle. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: If we see a picture and there's a person and a bird.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Person and bird. Is that supposed to be problem?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I was more interested in the real bird.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I was wondering where the real birds were. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=1949.0,2315.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very philosophical. But we are not dealing with the philosophy in this case or metaphysics. It's just a simple picture, simple just picture of bird, but nothing else around it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, if I asked that question [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, it is not at all. It's just-- I'm sure child could experien-- explain much better than what our people could do.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Bird going nowhere?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Bird going nowhere? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: It means that you [INAUDIBLE] bird is like [INAUDIBLE] the bird.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm. Well it's extremely simple. Since we don't have much time to speculate on that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: The bird's mind?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=2315.0,2383.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That whole picture is portrait of sky. In order to express sky you can't just have blank paper. We put a bird in it, which implicate that bird flies in sky. It's extremely simple. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=2383.0,2411.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: There’s a poetry like-- poetry like that, [INAUDIBLE] a series of paintings. Like one will be blank, and then one will have what looks like birds followed by lines, and the next one will have-- it will be blank and it will have the lines and it might have a triangle in it, and the point that [UNCLEAR: possible about?] maybe a sinking ship in the ocean, and the triangle is just the last part of the ship that's in the ocean. It was very hard to understand. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=2411.0,2448.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that seem to be problem of that we can't think simply. It's when we talk about tantric visualizations, tantric symbolism, they're actually equal to bird flying in a blank piece of paper, which means sky. It's actually as simple as that. There's no mystery involved, not at all, absolutely nothing. It's just a literal situation, things as they are. Absolute things *as they are*. So symbolism of all this situation is extremely simple. That because whole thing is too simple, we might have dis-- understand the simplicity, and we approach from the philosophical, metaphysical level, which bogs downs us, constantly, and which deceived us constantly, all the time. So from that point of view tantra is that of experiencing things as they are, symbolically. Experiencing things as they are literally, directly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=2448.0,2525.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have used this analogy several times, but I might repeat again. That you had an argument with your friend, and you don't want anything to do with him anymore at all. Absolutely pissed off. You say goodbye to your friend. You slam the door and caught your finger in it. [Laughter] That's tantra. Tells you to slow down, tell you to-- there is pain. Constantly happens that way. There's a Tibetan story of that particular situation. That husband extremely angry with his wife, while there is hot water boiling in the kettle on the stove. And husband want to hit his wife with a pot. He raises his kettle and pours on his head, [laughter] hot water, [laughter; laughs] before he hits his wife. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=2525.0,2614.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tantra means message, from that point of view of daily living situation. There are messages of all kinds involved. You don't have to be divine or pious or believe in God or whatever have you, at all. As long as you are sane and direct and literal, simple situation of your psychology simple enough, that you don't get into religious trip or spiritual trip or whatever have you. That we could see the symbolism or direct symbolism tantra could be experienced as literal as possible, constantly. So that's what's called mahamudra tantric situation of living situation as it is. And colors and patterns, temperatures of life, becomes a part of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nMaybe we should have a discussion on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=2614.0,2674.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is meditation tantra?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All of them. Meditation is tantra as well as hinayana and mahayana. But meditation in action could be said as tantra, on the other hand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=2674.0,2711.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: How do you [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: How get a message from [INAUDIBLE] situation [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well just find out, I would say. On the whole, the whole teaching of three yana -- hinayana, mahayana, and vajrayana -- is based on a living situation, a psychological pattern. As far as Buddhism is concerned, there's no religion, there's no theology, but there is-- maybe you may say there's philosophy. Some understanding of view and the life situation as part of your living situation of spiritual path. And it is extremely humanistic approach. Does not believe in a divine power of any kind at all, none whatsoever. Divinity seem to be part of the organic situation of life, because no mysteries involved. The practices are very basic and very literal, from that sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=2711.0,2802.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: In comparing these different systems, are you saying that the experience of-- the different people that speak about, say, Vedanta or the other systems, people that earlier you called heretics, is that experience of-- and you know also the hinayana, is that experience different from the experience attained by people that practice the vajrayana philosophy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't say-- as long as they approach in the living situation of psychological pattern they're going to be same thing. But as long as they begin to relate with the divine principle or whatever have you, or divinity or hierarchal structure of mysterious power overlooking at you, in other word Big Brother is watching you, and then it is regarded as heretics.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But they may teach that way, but is the experience different?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because they may teach that way therefore they're indoctrinated in their ideas, therefore their belief becomes colored by their-- what they want to have, rather than what is. Generally, whole thing is that if you approach some other topic then what is in a psychological situation of living situation, and if you introduce further mysteries, that what human mind want look for, trying to conquer another area -- and we want to go to the Moon, we want to go to the Mars, we want to conquer the Moon and Mars, we want to conquer Mount Everest, whatever it may be. That's coincide with samsaric thinking, and it's not going to help at all, but it create further complications. It's quite simple as that. That's why quite wisely it is called heretic. Not heretics because against the doctrine, the teaching, but it is heretics from sense of-- from the point of view it is against human nature. We begin to ignore the human nature as it is, but we begin to relate with the human nature is that human beings are inferior. They should be something better than human beings. That deceives human beings all the time, trying to become superman all the time, which is called samsara all the time happening. And human beings contains tremendous, beautiful, rich in themselves and never introduce that hidden wealth, hidden treasure. That's why it is heretic.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well is it-- [UNCLEAR: finding this?] experience like of this understanding of what the [UNCLEAR: humanists said?] different people claim to have understood, is it a different understanding or not?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well if you experience heat -- we all agree simultaneously, if we put our finger on electrical ring, it's going to burn us. The conclusion going to become the same. Maybe the reason why we put our finger on the ring will be different altogether. Some people think it's beautiful color, some people think it's nice and warm. Some people think it's \"I don't know what's happening so I-- let's feel it.\" But result is going to be same thing, that everybody's finger is going to be burned. It's very organic and natural process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=2802.0,3055.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I was wondering the other day, if my-- if the idea of my ego is illusion, who is it that has the illusion? I never knew an illusion without somebody to have it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Idea of your ego is illusion. Who would know that is illusion? I think that seem to be same thing what we discussed about electrical ring, you're putting your finger on it. That we do not know whether this electrical ring is piece of picture or whether it is something which gives you heat, warm, because your hand is cold. But when we put finger on it, it burns. In other word, experience of pain is more of the guideline rather than what it’s supposed to be. Someone telling you it is illusion doesn't help at all, because we have to experience illusion personally, ourselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=3055.0,3140.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: What do you mean by saying the experience of pain is a guideline?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that which shocks you, shock you back, like experience of pain of putting your finger on your electrical ring in stove.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: To help you see what is illusory and what is not true?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you see a mirage of big lake, in the desert, then we get into the place, the answer is obvious, that it is desert, there's no water anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=3140.0,3175.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche, is hinayana, mahayana, and vajrayana the same in the process of question and answer?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Well that's happening all the time. You do not have questions unless you sense the answer. You do not have the answer anymore unless you felt further questions. So answer is question, the question is answer, constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=3175.0,3208.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Do you think pain is in the mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Of course.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [INAUDIBLE] no inherent quality in itself, though.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, it's psychosomatic.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [INAUDIBLE] energy, is a state of energy [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=3208.0,3251.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche, you spoke of the transition between hinayana and mahayana as being a matter of giving up the search for an answer for nirvana. Does this simply happen when someone becomes so frustrated in trying to find an answer, and failing that they just give up? Or is it something else [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. There is further inspiration to look for answer, or there's frustration to find answer -- both leads to mahayana, both are possible. In the Gampopa talks about the, what's it called, the different kind of families. That dubious family, and cutoff family, and inferior family, all kinds of things like that, different intensities, and you have all kinds of experiences with that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well with the mahayana family [INAUDIBLE] is going on to a higher truth, whereas the other families it might be sort of a matter of giving up trying to find what they thought they wanted?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems the all family leads to mahayana from that point of view. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=3251.0,3343.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: Rinpoche, it seems to be when a person-- that when you start on the hinayana level or whatever, even before that, that they come and the whole idea of samsara is that-- you know traditionally they talk about desire, and so people running around trying to satisfy desire [INAUDIBLE]. And then somehow they begin to-- at least in the Buddhist approach, they begin to question the whole thing of desire itself. And so they get into religious-- the Buddhist religious trip. Which sort of seems like that instead of having a whole bunch of scattered desires, that then it sort of gets narrowed down to one big one. Enlightenment is the answer to all of it. And that that makes the whole thing simpler to work with, and then by answering-- by working with meditation or whatever, that then the idea is to tackle that sort of, you know, focussing all those scattered desires. Is that-- do you think that's accurate? Do you know what I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't say that people become [INAUDIBLE] that point, except they find the big stumbling block, they can't find any answers to them all. They solved all the majority or the subsidiary problems, because that is so because of that, and so on, so on, so on, they go on. Then there's some big stumbling block, that one doesn't know what it actually consist of. And that's the discovery of enlightenment or the basic ignorance. I wouldn't say at that point they are actually thinking in terms of Buddhism at all, just person discovering, in some sense. But they might hear the message of the bodhisattva path is being that giving up your hope is the way to do, which somebody have-- might introduce to you.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: So it seems like people are asking a lot of-- at first people ask a lot of questions, to which you can get answers, it seems. And so finally they begin to question the whole questioning process, and for that there is no answer. And so that's the-- I mean this-- and it's not-- you know I look at people on the Buddhist path and everyone is running around saying either \"I want enlightenment\" or \"I shouldn't want enlightenment.\" [Laughter] But you know there's great things are connected with Buddhism or Eastern religion. \"Enlightenment\" is a pretty big word.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But usually when they hear about enlightenment that's something they *should* have.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: They should have but shouldn't want. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's good starting ground. Make up your mind. Sit, meditate. Whatever you're doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=3343.0,3586.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Where does the basic ignorance come from?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nowhere.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Why does it exist?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because it's nowhere. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=3586.0,3607.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85006/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well friends, we could go on for centuries, until we all become skeletons in this classroom.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Become what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: *Skeleton*. Somebody comes in the room and he find a skeleton, people sitting on the chair. Skeleton person sitting on the chair, as speaker. [Laughter] We could go on and on and on and on. But it might be better if we stop. And we could have the study groups. Are there any rooms, anything like that?\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: Yeah, we're using the same room we used last week [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\n[AUDIO CUTS OUT]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=3607.0,3658.01019"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85007","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720210VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85007/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche, 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[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=1500.42,1516.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85007/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Still you may\npractice generosity,\npatience, morality,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550#t=1516.2,1521.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161701/file/293550/transcript/85007/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"energy, meditation, knowledge.\nYou go through\nall these 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