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Describes traditional bardo retreat, meditating for seven weeks in complete darkness, as contacting real meaning of death. Creates sense of openness, death and birth become the same. Ati as nothing to hang onto, even shunyata. Affords highest level of understanding of reality. A lively Q\u0026amp;A which touches on many questions, about bardo retreat and its history; connection between maha ati and other teachings such as mahamudra, two truths, prajnaparamita. Includes an appeal for donations to complete purchase of land for Rocky Mountain Dharma Center, which is of historic interest, and makes connection between practical finances and dharma practice.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDec 22 2018 to Dec 09 2023 Transcribing: Travis May Checking: Daniel Nguyen Final Proof: Travis May, Anne Seidlitz Terminology Review: Matilda Perks Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAbout the experience of death from maha ati point of view, which is \"pure dharmakaya.\" Maha ati as \"supreme yana\", highest state of tantra, without reference points at all; even ideas of peaceful and wrathful deities become irrelevant. Describes traditional bardo retreat, meditating for seven weeks in complete darkness, as contacting real meaning of death. Creates sense of openness, death and birth become the same. Ati as nothing to hang onto, even shunyata. Affords highest level of understanding of reality. A lively Q\u0026amp;A which touches on many questions, about bardo retreat and its history; connection between maha ati and other teachings such as mahamudra, two truths, prajnaparamita. Includes an appeal for donations to complete purchase of land for Rocky Mountain Dharma Center, which is of historic interest, and makes connection between practical finances and dharma practice.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled Tibetan Book of the Dead II, given at the Rocky Mountain Dharma Center, in Red Feather Lakes, Colorado. This is Talk 7, given on July 12th, 1973. This is a CTI Auto Remaster made November 2023.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=0.0,29.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We could say that what we're going to discuss tonight is connected with maha ati experience of death. Maha ati -- ati is fundamental principle in which that the notion of even visible signs of enlightenment is un-applicable, irrelevant. At that point, still the sense of generosity continues, but we discuss the bodhisattva's path of generosity in terms of without clinging to life and understanding death in its absolute nature and bardo as well. And generosity in the maha ati level, at this point, is having sense of realizing that the wrathful deity and peaceful deity, what we discussed last night, become also irrelevant -- somewhat -- because that there is no sense of imagery, no sense of perception, no sense of experience in the sense of contemplative approach to how things ought to be. Meditative point in the sense of how things ought to be as such. And the sense of nakedness becomes more outstanding. That the sense of realizing peaceful deities and wrathful deities are purely part of your creation, your conceptualization, your manifestation, manufacturing process, much more than way that we could free ourselves, particularly. Even *such* notion becomes irrelevant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=29.0,195.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the maha ati approach of experiencing pure dharmakaya. Dharmakaya this case is experience without basic format to stick ourselves in -- in social or security situation. And the basic notion of non-existence of security, and particularly that we have nothing to hang onto, nothing to hold onto.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=195.0,266.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The meaning of death and the meaning of dharmakaya experience of maha ati, or the highest state of tantra is concerned, becomes without imagery. There is the -- what's known as the \"bardo retreat,\" in which that person goes into a room without any windows, any lights coming except a skylight coming down. And when the skylight is closed, after twenty-four hours, that person stays in that room with that total darkness -- room without total light, total darkness. And the person stays there for seven weeks. And food is provided very lusciously; apparently, people spend more time if they don't see anything, they're more hungry, because they're trying to see so many things, the whole seven weeks is a tremendous feast; all kinds of foods. Luscious breakfast, and solid lunch, and a good dinner, and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=266.0,375.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In that personal experience is that person is-- are not, who take part in that retreat is not allowed to visualize, not prescribed to visualize any deities or do any particularly given lower-level tantra exercises. No pranayama and no visualizations, no mantras. That only exercise they have is to visualize open eyes gazing onto them. [Laughter; murmuring]. Dependent on the particular approach that the open eye is gazed from the backside of your skull. Looking into your brain. Another open eye is gazing at *that*; looking at your brain. And open eyes looking from your heel of your leg up to your marrows in your skull, in your bones.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=375.0,476.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And such approach becomes extremely important, that to realize that there's no reference point *at all*, even to relate that our survival process does not apply us anymore. Survival process becomes irrelevant that point. Even the wrathful and the peaceful deity becomes irrelevant. Because we have understood the *complete* meaning of *real* death. That-- in which point that we can't even con -- could we call our rejected lover to come and take part in our Saturday evening's party. Could we ask our rejected lover to take a walk together and pluck flower from the meadow opposite our house. We can't. The rejected lover is rejected lover, needless to say. [laughs; laughter] And no further projects involved with our rejected lover. Any approach that we make, or any passes we begin to make towards conning our rejected lover, we are not going to get any response. That is to say our rejected lover is also awake person or organic person, such as like death. That death is organic relationship. Death might be regarded as a rejected lover who rejected you. Still, we can hang onto that principle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=476.0,652.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maha ati's approach to life and death and bardo experience are that-- is that related with the life situation and love situation, which contains *ultimate* sense of death. Much more terrifying if you-- we look at, as in the experience I have discussed early on about the experience of shunyata, and its horrifying aspect of it. Much more so than that. Much, much, more so than the shunyata experience which we feel maybe threatening, terrifying. The shunyata experience present us experience. In experience of maha ati, no experience *at all*. If you're trying to do so, that will be foolish, and comparable to trying to dig out your wife's grave. And so far as to say that you trying to make love to your wife's corpse, who already 30 years old being in the grave. I mean that's very foolish. [laughter] Impractical. [laughter] Anybody who is involved with the understanding how life works wouldn't dream of doing such thing. But you be surprise, lot of us might *do* such thing; lot of you might do such thing. Who knows, there’s once in a million there are a lot of eccentric people in our society, who might try and venture out such thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=652.0,824.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maha ati experience of death and relating with life is very definite, very direct. It's one of the ultimate sensibility, being very sensible, that once that death rejected you, we do not try to make death into life. But death should be let go its way, its pace. And death produced life, and then life produces death simultaneously. Sense of openness, tremendously.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=824.0,864.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At that point, the even message of the peaceful and wrathful deities are not applicable; they become out of dated. Because even such message is approach towards trying to survive in our life situation at this time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=864.0,899.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Experience of life. It's workable because, that promise of life does not contain in its life-ness, that life doesn't bring us any promises; it's simply very ordinarily being alive, rather than life presents us promises that rejected wife is going to renew our marriage license. And rejected wife already experience [laughs], already experience you and your marriage and your experience of marriage. And horrific aspect of it at the same time. And how it was *big* mistake, already. And if rejected wife or husband trying to renew that particular certificate, or dead wife or dead husband try to renew that certificate, it would be getting together into the coffin of your dead husband or wife. Trying to make best of it. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=899.0,1005.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it seem to be very desperate, at that point, as far as the idea of mahamudra and maha ati principle is concerned, that such notion of hanging onto life, even to the wrathful deity and peaceful deity, related with them, are impractical. That they presented some kind of message of security in our living situation as such, are impractical. That we can't hang onto the peaceful deities or the wrathful deities at *all*. Full stop. That even subtle spiritual message, \"you might have a chance to work with this and this\", and that \"you might have chance to work with that, that, that,\" is absolutely irrelevant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=1005.0,1063.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maha ati experience of death and bardo in its absolute, complete nature, complete state of being, is sense of humor. The both death and birth are same grin. Same grin on your face, and same smile, same dimple, that you created by smiling if your face is very fat. The snugness of the dimple. [Laughter] Nothing to be terrified of, or indignant of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=1063.0,1150.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We could say that lower tantras, including that of the shunyata freak, people want to hang onto shunyata principle as a savior, might resent the principle of maha ati looking back on us as complete fools. And have gigantic and a beautiful grin, smile with the dimples, watching at us. You be resented such idea does-- such principle does exist. In fact-- at a matter fact, that's too bad. And we can't actually avoid that happening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=1150.0,1218.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Such experience could be said as highest level of tantra's understanding of death, birth, and its continuity. That death and birth [unknown incident; laughter] are not *independent* entities, but they depends on the sense of rigidity of experienc*or*. So we could say both death and birth are good, because they have their root in *reality*, as far as reality goes. [laughter] As far as shunyata goes.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe should have a discussion about that. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=1218.0,1283.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Who introduced the bardo retreat, and do you recommend that your students do one?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Absolutely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Who introduced the bardo retreat?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The guy named called Shri Simha, who is the master to Padmasambhava. Long time ago. [Laughter] Teacher of Padmasambhava. And Padmasambhava did, and since the rest of us did. Which was about nine hundred years ago, roughly. And all along it happens to be good idea to do so.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Why did you tell me I was being suicidal when I said I wanted to do one?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why shouldn't I? [Laughter] Good luck. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=1283.0,1370.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Am I to understand that at the maha ati level, reality doesn't go very far?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maha ati level what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Reality doesn't go very far? Is that what you were inferring by saying reality as far as it goes?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It doesn't go very far, because there's nothing to far of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=1370.0,1393.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3 MISSING AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Can you explain--\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO - MISSING AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --you got a parachute in outer space [laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=1393.0,1423.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Can you explain how one can be rejected by death?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Could I explain what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: How one can be rejected by death. You mentioned being rejected by--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Rejected by death because you don't accept it. You’re suspended to life.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: You're what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You are suspended into life. Not realizing the momentary death that happens all the time. And then you are rejected by death because you have no way of relating with the real death.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: So that would be the same as you rejecting death, death rejecting you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah. I'm saying same thing. What is what? Who is who?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=1423.0,1467.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Then does it follow that in the bardo retreat that one must-- would try to *not* be rejected by death. Is that what-- the point?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. The death is always there. That nevertheless your rejected husband is related with you, rejected wife is relating with you, in spite of its exterior forms.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is that what--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're still married.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is that what the eyes are? Death?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The eyes are much more than that; it's irritating precision of those facts. That a life contains so many facts and figures, that appears to be looking at the whole thing, that there are six types of wisdom that described in the bardo retreat practices. That the wisdom of gravity, wisdom of eye-level experiences, and wisdom of looking down and looking up. All kinds of wisdoms involved. And all these wisdoms are looking at inquisitiveness of life, that life is extremely inquisitive. And it's like society never had a toy, and suddenly when you provide all these toys to the particular society that never had toys, even the adults peers their eyes on their particular toys. As well as the childs-- children.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=1467.0,1582.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Is the quality of the bardo experience designed to be primarily visual in terms of body experience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No -- everything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Equally?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would say.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Is there any oscillation at all between the quality of life and the quality of death as far as--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --that we had thought of it before that point?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As long as there darkness. It's saying the same thing. You would like to at the same time. Some point you begin to lose the reference point of being total darkness in the seven weeks, and being in light at the same time. Because then no reference point for you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=1582.0,1624.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche, are life and death independent of a \"liver\" or a \"dier\"? I mean-- or does it take an experience--?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, life and death are the manufacturer of liver or the dier.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So, they're related to ego [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=1624.0,1644.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Is death-- Rinpoche, is death also inquisitive, or does it seek to smash and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Very inquisitive. Because we want to know about death, intensely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: But--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We want to find out the meaning of death and what happens when we die.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Does that mean death is inquisitive too? If--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean, death is *experience*, rather than death is entity. So the experience*er* of the death is inquisitive. So we can't say death is entity of its own, because death is dependent on life, and our body and everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=1644.0,1691.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Is there any experience of ignorance at all in that state?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Is that feeling of ignorance our experience the same thing as the feeling of wisdom?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you are adventurous enough to say so. [Laughter] You're right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=1691.0,1724.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: What's mahamudra?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why did you ask such question?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Well, you explained maha ati. And then you talked about mahamudra, so I was wondering. You mentioned mahamudra.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Did I?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Yeah. [Laughter] It's true!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Yet last night you said that mahamudra was a more highly evolved experience of shunyata. And of shunyata that out shunyata'd itself or something.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: \"Shoonyatta.\" [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mahamudra is seeing phenomena as it is, in its fullness, rather than voidness that shunyata experiencer might experience. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Strikes gong; deadens]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: So it's seeing your dimples just as they are.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely. Say that again.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: So it's seeing your dimples just as they are.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sure. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=1724.0,1840.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Does maha ati experience relate at all to just being in the human realm? The pure--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Human realm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Yeah, I mean, in other words with just a pure kind of letting go of them. I don’t know, even up in that maitri group you indicated that the human realm is indicative-- it's corresponding to our shamatha meditation practice, was the gap--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well maha ati experience obviously is connected with the human realm, but much more so that the human realm connected with the brain world, in the head. Transcending heart. Mahamudra could be said as relating with the heart. Maha ati experience are connected with the head and the brain chakra. That describes in the Tibetan Book of the Dead. It's possible that we could expand ourselves into outer space.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Why would we do that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, because maha ati has no reference point. Maha ati has no reference point of all-pervading level. Maha ati is -- maha ati's only reference point is downward. That other levels of maha ati's reference point are non-existence; up in all directions. Only maha ati's level is still just little umbilical cord of its own name, is related with the samsaric world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=1840.0,1954.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: How does the crazy wisdom of Padmasambhava relate to maha ati?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Without reference point of upward, but downward in relating with the audience, simply.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=1954.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: After you finish bardo retreat, do you ever do yidam meditation again?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You transcend from the whole thing. You are united with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=1980.0,1994.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: In the prajnaparamita literature they talk about these things called the \"two truths\". Are you familiar with that? That Nagarjuna talks about two truths being the mundane truth and the transcendental truth. Is that what you're talking about here with respect to this maha ati experience? Or is that something totally different?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the maha ati's truth is related with the transcendental truth. The logic of maha ati may be related with the mundane truth. Interconnected with the downward logic. But maha ati experience *itself* is transcendental truth.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: So that's not fact with prajnaparamita literature is expressing. Or is it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well prajnaparamita is at that point at maha ati level. It's very primitive. It still have a lot of hopefulness about the higher truth, and unable to relate with the mundane truth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=1994.0,2060.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: In your lecture last night I had the impression that when we do what we want it leads us to frivolity. Like you said that if you go into a relationship with a therapist, you do psychotherapy, because you have an idea of what you want, it leads to frivolity. But I was wondering, in our daily life we have to make choices all the time about how to spend our time and energy and what to do with ourselves. And on what basis do we make that choice if it isn't on what we want? Or am I missing something?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Up to you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Is there another basis?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's up to you. It depends on your journey.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: It doesn't seem very clear.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It wouldn't be as intellectualization is concerned, but when you meet with certain hitchhikers, that you meet hitchhikers on the journey, you'll be very clear which hitchhikers you would like to take and which hitchhiker you don't.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Okay. It’s clear.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good luck! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Thank you!\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Pleasure. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=2060.0,2144.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: If there is no experience in maha ati, how does it relate to the samsaric world? Just purely through the audience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Purely what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: If there's no experience in maha ati, how does it get connected with the samsaric world?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Only because it feels the maha ati experience are superior. It's imperial yana. You understand that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: No. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You could say how come that umbrella bends down? Only because there is someone to protect. That's why maha ati -- maha ati yogayana is described as \"imperial yana\", \"wang gyur tap kyi tekpa.\" \"Imperial yana,\" which only looks down than anywhere else, because looking down requires to ease related with the compassion attitude. And maha ati's acknowledgment looking down in the world is through accordance of its own experience of a compassionate debt, that it owes to rest of the humanity, sentient beings.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=2144.0,2247.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Other than-- it seems like really delightful, imaginative stories. And how does this...? It seems there’s some kind of a quotient of irony in what's being presented in the sense that it's... And it sounds kind of fascinating and neat. Scary and stuff.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: But how does it pertaining in the form of the data that's being presented? I mean here we're having this description of something that, at least as I experience it, doesn't-- seems, at best maybe, to entice my imagination.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It isn't.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Other than that what-- what can we-- what can-- what might--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nothing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: --you say somebody does with this?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Nothing. Truly nothing. Full stop.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: No maha ati, no anything.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: *Even* no maha ati. Clean cut. But you might say that that *is* maha ati. That's depends on opinion. But actually there is no maha ati.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=2247.0,2354.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Is there some kind of experience associated with the-- [laughter] Is there some kind of experience associated with the navel center? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Unless you join the naval [laughter], I can't tell you. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: But I mean, the navel that's emphasized by Don Juan and Suzuki Roshi. They--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Suzuki Roshi joined the naval? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: He's maybe in the \"yaki\" navy!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: They talk about it as being more that kind of experience, some experience associated with, you know, what they call the 'hara\" as being more basic than emotional experience or intellectual experience.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Suzuki Roshi must be joining with the Japanese navy. [Laughter] And Don Juan with the Mexican navy. [laughter] They must develop some kind of hara. It's hypothetical, what they did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=2354.0,2477.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Is maha ati essentially a state where there's a complete [laughter]-- a complete absence of any kind of gratification of the ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. In fact if we could say more than that; no gratification at *all*. Even for its own sake. If you could imagine such thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: How could you stand that? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't. [laughter] That's why you regard yourself as egoless. Because you can't stand; it's absolutely horrific. It's death.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: And the smile is never without gratification? There's no gratification in that smile?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe there's dimple. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=2477.0,2550.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: You mentioned there was a skylight in the bardo retreat that was open for twenty-four hours and then closed. What's the point of that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To adjust fire with the sunrise and sunset.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Oh you mean it's open for each day of the bardo retreat--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: --or only at the beginning?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Beginning. After that you have your own...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Sunrise and sunset. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or transistorized sun and sunset.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Transistorized?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=2550.0,2596.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Talking about transistorized, I think we should end our meeting tonight here. And we have further announcement to make, how we could become transistorized, all transistorized.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=2596.0,2636.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JOHN BAKER: Hello? [laughter] Let's see. Well my name is John Baker, for anybody who doesn't know me here.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Hi John.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: Hello. And I'm here to talk about something a little different. Which is the land, and the fact that we need money to keep it. And we're looking for donations, or loans, or whatever. And the situation roughly is that we have land payments now for the next three or four years. Four more land payments; one each year. And they go up each year, so that we paid about fourteen-thousand dollars last year, and we have about twenty-four thousand dollars due this year, and then twenty-seven, and then thirty-one, and then thirty-five. And our situation is that I-- well, we're not sure how much we're going to have after these seminars. But to make it safe, I could say that we might need about fourteen-thousand dollars to make this payment, meaning that we'll come out of this with about ten. It's possible that we need less than that, but at this point we don't know. And, in addition, we've talked to the banks, because land payments this big are rather difficult. And if we can come up with an additional twenty-four thousand on top of the twenty-four we owe for a total of forty-eight this year, then they would refinance the balance for ten years, so that then we would have pretty much a livable situation, where the land itself and seminars, and the people who live on the land, would be able to make the land payment every year. So we're looking for loans and donations.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd of course what this makes possible is that we can continue seminars like this. And also, this year we're doing a seminary program for the first time. Which is ninety people, and there are going to be eight or nine people teaching courses, and Rinpoche's teaching. And it's going to take place for about two-and-a-half months, with alternate weeks of sitting meditation and study. And it's going to start in September, and we're going to have to rent a place for that. And what it would mean if we could keep this land is that we would be able to have it here in the years to come, which we very much want to do.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd also there are plans are afoot now for a Buddhist college, which would be an ongoing thing; we'd like to have that going all year round. And there are more and more people turning up on the scene who would be able to teach at that college. And we're working on that, trying to get it going within the next year, we hope. And we'd like to be able to do that here too, at least in part. So if there's anybody here who can help us out with the land payment this fall, or refinancing, or anything like that. It doesn't have to be the whole thing. [laughs; laughter] We'll put a lot of little ones together. And we very much appreciate it.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd you could talk to myself or you could talk to Marvin [Casper] or Fran [Lewis]. And Marvin and Fran, could you stand up, so people can see who you are? That's Marvin. [laughter] Would anybody like to ask any questions? Okay, well, thank you all very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=2636.0,2911.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62587/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Money is good. It's necessary, to attain enlightenment. [Laughter] And the seriousness of whatever I've been talking about the other day -- yesterday, in fact, night. That people don't take life too seriously, enough. And, hopefully that we could take our life seriously. That the very ground you're sitting on, underneath everybody's bottom is; you are sitting on this particular land, is been bought, or borrowed by. And in fact we haven't paid for. [laughs; laughter] I would like to everybody feel that special feeling about where you're sitting on, sleeping on, in your tents.\r\n\r\n\r\nChronologically, it seems to be bought; the top of the mountain on the crest. But as land payments goes on, we are possession of land goes-- extends, that maybe the seventh year that land you are sitting on is, rather than borrowed rather than bought. And that you are sitting on our hospitality. All the hospitality that goes on here is pretense in some way, that we feel that we haven't got enough possessions of it. To set our foot on it. That you are sitting on a foreign land, foreign ground.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd there's some kind of commitment to this fact. That we feel that you could help us, very sincerely. Any kind of help seem to become... appropriate and pressing at the same time. So that when you sit and meditate and feel you're sitting on the actual *land* which is belongs to us. Rather than you’re sitting on ice floating; that land hasn't been bought. [Laughs] Actually it does happen that way. Think about it tonight, if you could help us, your help is very extremely welcome. I'd be delighted. [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nThank you. Have a good nightmare. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=2911.0,3150.70694"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62588","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730712VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62588/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE:\nThis is the Venerable Chogyam\nTrungpa 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upward,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=1964.92,1967.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62588/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but downward in relating\nwith the audience, simply.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=1967.92,1973.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62588/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER16:\nAfter you finish bardo retreat,\ndo you ever do\nyidam meditation 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It still\nhave a lot of hopefulness\nabout the higher truth,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=2047.61,2052.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62588/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and unable to relate\nwith the mundane truth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=2053.59,2055.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62588/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER18:\nIn your lecture last night\nI had the 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It’s clear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=2129.68,2131.42"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62588/annotation/370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good luck!\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=2131.42,2135.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62588/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER18: Thank 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Nothing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756#t=2307.04,2315.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115877/file/219756/transcript/62588/annotation/404","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Truly nothing. 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