{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/s46h12x72d/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1973-07-23: The Message of Milarepa: Talk 7: Milarepa’s Compassion"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1973-07-23"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Video"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Karme Choling, Barnet, Vermont, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Public Seminar"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/565/show\"\u003eMessage of Milarepa\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 7: Milarepa’s Compassion"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Tibetan Buddhist Lineage"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["The theme from the previous talk, of true mahamudra experience having to do with appreciating the world, entering the world, and working with the world, is continued. On the whole, a continuing thread through all three yanas of Tibetan Buddhism -- hinayana, mahayana, vajrayana -- is sympathy and kindness, warmth and compassion. In the vajrayana, this is characterized as \"expansive compassion… joy, or pleasure, rather than [just] compassion.\" Milarepa expresses this in relating with his two disciples, Rechungpa and Gampopa, who need different kinds of training. Milarepa was a mahamudra master and crazy wisdom person, but his compassion is what allowed him to relate to his students and the world."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Milarepa"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: MILAREPA: LESSONS FROM THE LIFE AND SONGS OF TIBET'S GREAT YOGI:\u003cbr\u003e\nChapter 18. Milarepa’s Love and Compassion (only source for that chapter)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/milarepa-3865.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Oct 25 2023 to Mar 10 2025\nTranscribing: Ella Milligan\nChecking: Jessyca Goldstein\nFinal Proof: Leandra Ziegler\nOther Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["The theme from the previous talk, of true mahamudra experience having to do with appreciating the world, entering the world, and working with the world, is continued. On the whole, a continuing thread through all three yanas of Tibetan Buddhism -- hinayana, mahayana, vajrayana -- is sympathy and kindness, warmth and compassion. In the vajrayana, this is characterized as \"expansive compassion… joy, or pleasure, rather than [just] compassion.\" Milarepa expresses this in relating with his two disciples, Rechungpa and Gampopa, who need different kinds of training. Milarepa was a mahamudra master and crazy wisdom person, but his compassion is what allowed him to relate to his students and the world."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/267/369/small/thumbnail_267369_1741835697.jpg?1741835725","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1741835557_19730723VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":2294.89067,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/267/369/small/thumbnail_267369_1741835697.jpg?1741835725","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/267/369/original/1741835557_19730723VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4?1741835570","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":2294.89067,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730723VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19730723VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Message Of Milarepa - Talk 7]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369#t=0.0,94.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Since this talk is going to be the last one, there is-- we might be able to see the conclusion of mahamudra experience and its applications. The basic trend of thought runs right through, from the hinayana level to the vajrayana level: that there is a tendency of sympathy, compassion, kindness. That sense of warmth in hinayana level developed to yourself and making friends with yourself. And mahayana level, that friendliness generated to rest of sentient beings. And in vajrayana level, that that warmth and compassion and expansion has been used in the fullest sense, applied properly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369#t=94.0,182.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So mahamudra experience could be regarded as-- in the wrong view, it could be regarded as utter self-indulgency. That you are appreciating the phenomenal world, you are working with the phenomenal world, and you pick up the messages of the phenomenal world, that what happens in it; but at the same time, there's no awareness of working with the rest of the world. So that seem to be the basic understanding, is that the right approach to mahamudra experience is the sense of expansive compassion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369#t=182.0,246.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the vajrayana tradition, prefer to call it love than compassion -- or joy or pleasure, rather than compassion. In the rest of the Buddhist tradition, that word \"love\" has been somewhat questioned, since it is very vague term and it has all kinds of possible misunderstandings. But in the vajrayana sense, that it covers everything, like almost the same meaning as word \"love\" in English language. It covers personal relationships, and also it covers the aggression and passion demand that goes on, and also it covers that spiritual-mystical meaning of the whole totality, at the same time. So love is very important in the vajrayana tradition, particularly very important in the mahamudra, *and* more importantly in the maha ati teachings.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369#t=246.0,322.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That one of the problems that we face is when we talk about mahamudra experience, that there is no tendency towards, or no room for good deed, being kind, being loving. That everything seem to be self-indulgence; or else if it's relationship with other world, it just cutting and very aggressive, almost. And that attitude seem to be the wrong approach. So in connection with Milarepa's life, that the idea of compassion and love is still prominent. In spite of personal discoveries of nonexistence of phenomenal world, and the phenomenal world as being a double-cross play of mind, all kinds, that still there's room for that gentleness. But gentleness of course naturally means either being wrathful or peaceful. The gentility in this case is-- or peacefulness, this case, necessarily does not mean-- not dealing with the energies, but simply dealing with the romantic notion of being charitable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369#t=322.0,430.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So Milarepa's life brings this possibilities of working with extending his understanding and relating with the lineage. And he feels that he should, almost to the fact we could say, \"recruit\" future generation of lineage holders to keep the teaching alive and teachings available to whoever is ready for it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369#t=430.0,493.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And one of the first opportunity is that his meeting with Rechungpa, is one example. That up to that point, Milarepa has achieved what he wants to achieve. And he developed that sense of individuality and sense of vajra pride that he's lord of the universe, that he has command to all experience. But then person approaches him, and that universal monarch is not above everything, but universal monarch also have to become a householder, father. One had to come back to the world and nurse one's child, children. So his way of bringing up Rechungpa is being bringing up child.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369#t=493.0,592.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Rechungpa's case, that he was extremely unmanageable person. That he is self-opinionated, and he has all kinds of tricks that he could play to his father. And he's very bright and diligent, but he could take very quick sidetracks without noticing, just like naughty child. Which usually you find that with any intelligent or highly-potential person as student, have that kind of tendencies. They're quick and they're open, understanding, also patient. But they make sudden quick turns, which could deceive the faithful father or the teacher. Thinking that everything's going to be okay, but then suddenly -- that you think he's sitting and meditating beautifully in retreat, and suddenly his seat is empty, vanished for miles. [laughter] That's the peculiarities of intelligent future lineage holder, who takes sudden, quick jumps.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369#t=592.0,709.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Rechungpa has being also acting as administrator in somewhat. Very little things to do in Milarepa's set-up, but still there is hundreds of people wanted to talk to him, see him. And people crowded, he's demanded attention, and somebody had to moderate that -- who is the worthy person, who is the purely dilettante? And Rechungpa was acting as, somewhat, interview arranger, as well as being chief disciple and very ambitious person. He associate-- he has been referring constantly as \"us\" and \"them\": \"us\" being the mahamudra people and \"them\" is the people belongs to other camps and other ideas, who are foreigners, so to speak. That he was very upset at the logicians' challenge, challenge of the logicians, and he lost temper and he was very angry about the whole thing. So Milarepa had to deal with those little problems, those situation that arising from the experience of bringing up child. And he can't constantly fall back to his mahamudra experience, being now everything is just purely phenomenal play, so you can afford to Rechungpa to fool himself. And there's some kind of responsibilities, which is act of compassion of mahamudra.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369#t=709.0,872.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And also then there is the Gampopa, who arrived towards the end of his [Milarepa's] life, is another kind of personality altogether. That he's highly well-trained, he's learned, well-trained. And every effort that he made to relate with the guru is very proper and sophisticated. And also he had more experience in ordinary life. That he has been already father and husband, and his mother died-- his wife died and his son died. And he had gone through all kinds of traumas, or problems. That his son died, and when he finishes his son's funeral and return to home, his wife died. And then he decide to become a monk and a scholar. He's already a competent physician. And he did the right things that a solid citizen would. And very sensible, very grown-up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369#t=872.0,963.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And his approach was too conservative when he meet Milarepa. That he has no intention of breaking his vows. And on the first arrival of Gampopa and Milarepa, that Milarepa rejected the gift of a brick of tea and offering of gold. And after that Milarepa gave him a skullcup full of barley beer. And that's the interesting introduction of breaking conservative monastic vow, should be, you know, broken down. And it's the opposite of Rechungpa, where Rechungpa should be brought up as conservative and grown-up person. He [Milarepa] had extremely difficult time in doing that. But on the other hand, there comes Gampopa who's *more* than conservative, more than proper. Had to be broken down as well, to bring down that kind of extreme, at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369#t=963.0,1037.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Milarepa's approach to Gampopa is, surprisingly, he could be-- sound like Milarepa was as if great scholar, like Gampopa himself. And all the technical questions be answered, and everything's approached philosophically *and* experientially, of course. And Gampopa has a lot of problems in which that he had all kinds of visions in his meditation practices. That he saw visions of Buddha and herukas, all the deities, and each time he thinks this must be the real experience. And Milarepa had to send him back and telling him those experience are just purely trip and replaying of his neuroses coming back. Nothing special about it. So there are all those type of different approaches that Milarepa is using. And he is intelligent and Milarepa's coordination of his-- of how to--\r\n\r\n\r\n[laughs; laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369#t=1037.0,1133.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So Milarepa was person of crazy wisdom, somewhat, and certainly a competent mahamudra master. But he was able to handle day-to-day living situations. And the reason why he is able to do that is the warmth of compassion, which brings down, which makes sense -- that he has ordinary logic or samsaric nature. That he could think in the same logic as samsaric mind could comprehend, as well as same kind of logic which is the enlightened mind could also relate with. That kind of coordination, that kind of sophistication is largely due to the compassion aspect, or the joy, or \"mahasukha\" as it is known in the... [laughter] in the vajrayana tradition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369#t=1133.0,1220.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that whole point is that -- to finish our seminar -- that the coordination and sanity that goes along with experience of mahamudra is still that of compassion, which is extremely important. Without that, there is no way of relating with the world. And no way of relating with oneself if there is no compassion. There's no way of relating with the fellow students if there's no compassion. The purely penetrating inspiration of mahamudra alone does not help. And in fact, there's no such thing as mahamudra experience without compassion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369#t=1220.0,1292.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so is the Milarepa's inspiration to continue his messages to the world, and extend the lineage holders in the world. And his efforts towards it, and keeping the living oral instruction, or the oral teaching would flourish and continue is also part of that. That the compassion of Milarepa still exist and continues, up to this very moment. And compassion is being up-to-date experience, up-to-date energy. So therefore, the compassion which keeps the flow of energy alive and up-to-date. And therefore, along with the compassion, that brings also a sense of subtle understanding of play of phenomenal world, at the same time. If some-- a mahamudra teacher is not interested in teaching anybody, working with any other people, we could say that that experience is the mahamudra-- we could say the castrated experience of mahamudra. That any holder of lineage of mahamudra are capable fathers, should be capable fathers -- that they could bring up their children, and children could bring up their grandchildren.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have a discussion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369#t=1292.0,1476.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Was it necessary for Milarepa to cultivate his compassion or did he-- was it a natural outgrowth of his character?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would say it's very natural, because he's not interested in cultivating anything at that point. He just lives, in the style of old-dog quality. So it's a natural happening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369#t=1476.0,1525.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I really thought that full-blown compassion was love. And now you say that love is something beyond that, there's something past compassion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Love is?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is even beyond compassion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well from the compassion of mahayana's point of view, the love is much higher, or in tantric language, it's called \"sukha\", or the \"great joy.\" The sense of celebration, perpetual celebration and feast, and mutual working situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well, wouldn't that be compassion, I mean, fully?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, yeah, would be compassion. But compassion is still related with the bodhisattva's path in the conventional sense. It's still doing good deeds. But this case, it's everything is good, so you don't have to actually practice good deed, as such.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But isn't-- excuse me, the compassion in the bodhisattva sense, isn't that a spontaneous [INAUDIBLE] ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, but some point, but not totally, completely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369#t=1525.0,1618.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Once Milarepa had been brought to the point where his ego was naked, as you said, and anything other than that great loneliness that he felt when he went off into retreat would seem gross, by Marpa. Was the transference of the teaching essentially accomplished, or was there another great transaction between Milarepa and Marpa after that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No because the-- it's like sowing seed in Milarepa; and as he goes away and nursed the plant, that finally the flower blossoms.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So it was all there, really, even though it wasn't manifested?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah. But at the beginning it wasn't comforting to Milarepa, as he wished to be; but still, he begin to, you know, unfold in himself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369#t=1618.0,1692.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Would you say the less that you have to lose, the more compassion will reveal itself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I would say that the less you have to fight with anything to maintain anything, therefore you could-- that much you can let go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369#t=1692.0,1709.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But once, I think, that perhaps once that initial insight into compassion is reached, is there a self-conscious-- or is there a conscious cultivation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. Yeah, I mean still, you know, conscious cultivation is still a mentality of poverty: that you don't have it, therefore and you should generate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369#t=1709.0,1745.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I think you said that in the vajrayana tradition, that our love includes relationships, passion, and the demands that one makes. But aren't some of these ego motives?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Could be. But so, what is ego then? Ego is just a bubble. And it's perfectly harmless, and in fact, very useful stepping stone. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: But I think the big point is-- but are you talking about along the way? I thought you said that at the level of compassion, at the same level or maybe higher, was love, including all of this. Wouldn't that be a level that transcends the ego demand for gratification?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I wouldn't say that, you know, that it's completely without ego. And the vajrayana terminology of transmutation is like lead changing into gold. And you don't reject the metallic aspect of it, but you change the substance and its appearance. So ego is not particularly destroyed, but ego is transmuted into something else. So therefore, that the-- in fact, the basic sanity is based on ego. Without ego, you have nothing to work with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369#t=1745.0,1836.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144645/file/267369/transcript/77318/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Could you say a little bit more about the difference between the shunyata experience and mahamudra experience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Shunyata experience is you begin to feel there's no barrier between you and your projection. That everything is open, spacious, and a new discovery of freedom. In the mahamudra experience that it's something more than the purely experience of freedom. That you begin to discover that you can work with freedom and things are excitingly creative. It's like shunyata experience, that point when you are released from prison, that now you can go out to the world and be yourself. And mahamudra experience is going out and getting job, and you can improvise your freedom into different styles. So freedom isn't enough, but you have to learn how to dance with the freedom.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: You mean the shunyata experience then you can sort of get apart from all aspects of ego and all the phenomena. And then mahamudra you go back?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somewhat, yeah, yeah. 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