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Students offer their reflections on and questions about how the battle of ego applies to their personal experience. Chogyam Trungpa also speaks on topics including the path as the goal and why the conflicts of ego are necessary for realization.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eJun 28 2022 to Jul 21 2023 Transcribing: Al SanValentin Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Travis May Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1970"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAn open discussion on building and dissolving the castle of ego in everyday life. Students offer their reflections on and questions about how the battle of ego applies to their personal experience. Chogyam Trungpa also speaks on topics including the path as the goal and why the conflicts of ego are necessary for realization.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/273/490/small/open-uri20250521-778-sxt90z?1747839503","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20250521-778-eqhc0f.mpga"]},"duration":3350.17794,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/273/490/small/open-uri20250521-778-sxt90z?1747839503","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/273/490/original/open-uri20250521-778-eqhc0f.mpga?1747839503","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3350.17794,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19701231VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19701231VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Battle Of Ego I - Talk 7]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. Seminar entitled Battle of Ego held at Tale of the Tiger, Vermont. This is talk number seven held December 31st, 1970. This is an ARP digital remaster made October 2005.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=0.0,19.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: OPENING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs; laughter] Well, who's going to start?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like to hear it again. [laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=19.0,57.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --with the point that we wanted to make, wanted to share, this experience is not particularly only the highlight alone but the process of growth. Right from the beginning of the landscape and the building of the castle and the destruction-- or dissolutionment, rather, up to that point of question: Does the battle of ego took place? Did the battle of ego took place really or not? I don't think it's necessary to go through everybody, but it would be good to have some of the raw and rugged qualities be expressed in terms of words.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=57.0,163.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Would you like to begin?\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Well, I mean, that I was just thinking of just now when we were playing here, and then just when you were talking just now, I remembered when I was a little child. And it's a scene that's kind of often come back and-- at a children's party. And for some reason this occasion-- well, this particular scene, it's as if something happened that caused anxiety at that party. And I remember the whole scene, and I don't know what happened. I never found out what happened, but somehow something happened which caused anxiety. And when we were playing--\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\n--seemed to me as if it's quite all right to be-- we play like this. It's quite all right even to be a child. It's quite all right. And maybe what happened in the party was that suddenly there was a doubt as to whether-- I mean, there was a realization that, \"Here I am in this party.\" I must have been quite young, I don't know how old I was, and maybe the doubt as to whether it was all right to be a child like this and to play like this. And maybe this is what would interfere with these children's parties is doubt as to whether it was quite all right to just play.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm. And how would you link that with the...\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Could that be the finding a stone? Finding the stone?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that seems to be the whole thing. [laughs] Thank you. [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=163.0,308.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Michael?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: I was just sitting here wondering if I was right about [laughing] something, which was concerning the brick, the first brick, and its squareness. I really understood that to be a concept. I thought something that I thought-- I thought a concept was something very primitive, something that permits you to recognize anything whatsoever. For instance, a tree as an object. The thing that makes it possible for you to call two different things, \"tree.\" This object and that object, \"tree.\" Is that what that is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Because in the experience of \"now\" there are no two objects alike. And also, there's something left over in my mind from a lot of philosophy that I did that I can't seem to [laughing] spit out, so I seem to be-- have spit it out now. Please forgive me. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: That... one of the things they point out in the study of perception is that you can't-- that you don't see the back of an object, yet you supply an entire object. You don't actually take in data for the entire object. And so it appears that the back of the object is supplied by a whole-- by a memory. Some kind of structure is necessary just to supply that. And that once that's supplied a whole space comes into existence, which is based on that structure. And I was wondering if that was like the brick, if it was that fundamental to perception itself or whether there was already something personal in it, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm. Is this statement or question?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Question.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: [laughs] I mean, it's-- the question is, is that what that's about? Or is there something more personal in it? Or what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I won't say personal, but there's some situation that could be refine, could look into more... refined fashion. The sensitivity, like the-- you remember the ignorance that we be talking in the beginning, three types of ignorance? Very fine details, very faint differences.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: You said it was the first conclusion. I remember that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: And there was something really square about it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it is.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Yeah, I feel that. I don't know what it is though.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Trouble is there are corners.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Hmm? I don't understand.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nobody makes round brick, some reason. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: It fits with everything else.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: So-- because it fits with everything else there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, because--\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: And--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Should be reinforced by something else. Because if anyone makes round brick, then you don't have to make anything else, just one round brick.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=308.0,653.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: When-- can I just ask you, when you said that's the whole thing? I mean, that that is what I described as the whole process of building up the whole castle with the king in it and everything. And that one would have to go into that experience right from the moment, right from just *being* from completely in charge--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: --through to the moment of anxiety--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, and--\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: --and analyze that step by step.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There seems to be question, \"Is this all right to be playing?\" And that question seems to be a pregnant question. That is to say the answer is already there. It isn't really question, but it's just a survey. Which could be said in the seminary the idea of, \"Who am I?\" In meditation, \"Who am I?\" I mean, that's the sort of confluence of complexity and simplicity. Complex, the differences between the two and one, existence of samsara and nirvana as separate thing, and the nonexistence of anything at all. I mean, the child is simply say--\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: In particularly, the contact, I mean, the conflict, between the two?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, child begin to ask this question only if he begin to see the conflict and the complexity of it, opposed to his simplicity and directness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=653.0,807.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Henry?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED HENRY: I don't-- I'm not quite sure what I'm supposed to say here. [laughter] I mean, some remark on the whole seminar or something like [INAUDIBLE WORDS]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, anything you like. Something connected with the process of building of the castle and disillusionment of it. Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED HENRY: I can't think of anything right now.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=807.0,896.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Kesang. [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nKESANG TANIA LEONTOV: I think the thing was, it seemed to be a very difficult journey to go along, to go from step to step somehow. It was so hard to see. And I think it's because we're always operating inside the ego, and in meditation you get flashes of aspects of it, but to see the whole journey, I mean, to really go on the journey, sort of, from step to step all the way through. So how to just begin to recognize aspects of the ego and just kind of flash in meditation, and this way they become more pinpointable, like a great map, just sort of [INAUDIBLE WORDS]. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughs] Thank you. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=896.0,955.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, who is there?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well, I was just saying that what really struck me was that the landscape was so barren and the sun was so direct, that I kept having the feeling that that's what the struggle was about, was that there's just landscape and myself and... I've never understood why the landscape seems so solid, and I seem so solid. Why that there was this tension between the two.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: And I kept feeling that all the way through the discovery. And even now-- I realize that even now, this moment became the landscape. I found myself in a similar situation as that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: And that was what made me look for the brick.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. And what happens then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=955.0,1036.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I would like to tell a story in connection with my experiences. Some of the people here know that by profession I was a construction engineer. And when we started to build the story, building the castle was right down my alley. [laughter] [INAUDIBLE WORDS] people were looking for the tools, and I wasn't used to looking for the tools, they were furnished. Then when we got the whole castle built, we found out that it was of no use, and here I was a construction man, who built the whole thing and it is of no use. Now I got to tear it down. You are going to deflate my ego very much, but I still had to do that myself. And then, you gave us a ray-- you gave me a ray of hope and said this is not the end. So then, I didn't get fired. I still have a job to do. And you told a story then, I mean, later on you told the story about the little boy who took the long way around to find his father, and I find that I'm just a little step along that path now, and I'm-- fortunately I'm making some progress. That's my story.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you. Is that it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: That's my story.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay, thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: You're welcome.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You haven't attend-- you haven't heard quite complete seminar but probably you've had some glimpse of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=1036.0,1138.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Sir, are you calling on me?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Alan?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED ALAN: The instance of spiritual advisor struck me in a very hard, very strange way. Seeming to be, at the same time, the most treacherous part of the journey, and also there being a certain comfort in his existence. There's no cheating.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED ALAN: This-- it's real, it's real [INAUDIBLE WORDS] And somehow that, at the same time, it's like an incredible stumbling block and very encouraging for some crazy reason.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think discovery of false is, in fact, more encouraging than discovery of the truth. That was all the time Buddha was talking about, started on the truth of suffering and all the rest of it. It's good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=1138.0,1234.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Kunga?\r\n\r\n\r\nKUNGA DAWA RICHARD ARTHURE: I must confess that I find it much easier to follow the development of the attack of the castle, the dissolution process. This seems to correspond very exactly with meditation experiences. Rather than the building, or the actual origin of it. And I remember I was very interested in what you said about the three kinds of confusion, and that seems quite logical depending on how somehow I can feel this sort of thing happening in myself sometimes. But the origin of the first one I can't fully understand. In a way, the feeling of it like in the sense of a kind of heaviness, dullness which doesn't make any particular split. But just all pervading confusion, very heavy and [INAUDIBLE] quality. And then, I can see how that becomes charged up or, in a certain way with fascination that something splits off and becomes self-conscious within that of the second confusion. And that creates the initial duality, the split between the self and the [laughing] rest of confusion, or space. And then, the third one where the mind projection is where there's a fascination with external objects becomes-- emphasize the split even more, you know, very vivid and precise mental projections without realizing that they're just part of the space at all. It becomes absolutely separate, clear, sharp, like hallucinations.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd which seems also with thoughts this happens a lot, that they become so vivid it's the actually living that experience when it's purely imaginary thing. And once that develops from there, then the fascination produces the different aspects of it from the subconsciousness as well, of the castle. And-- but I must fully understand why the very first kind of confusion comes into being. I don't really quite understand that. The paranoia, I can see how, when it splits off and becomes self-conscious, that to me seems clear. And the way of dealing with that seems very clear, it seems quite-- early on in meditation practice that one has glimpses of just not reacting, not acting on anything, which helps to deal with the paranoia, and then there's just sort of nothing happening, which allows the sort of space, maybe just between two thoughts.\r\n\r\n\r\nUsually one reacts all the time, but sometimes there's just a tiny gap. And once that has happened, then sometimes it's easy to kind of extend it and begin to feel the space of dealing with the generals of the impulse, kind of curiosity, and kind of making kind of defensive reactions against, it could be thoughts or sounds or things that we see, the immediate defensive instinctive reaction. And when we begin to sense the space and openness, that becomes sort of transparent so it doesn't really happen or almost half happens, but then there's a gap and it doesn't happen anymore. And then with the prime minister, or thoughts, concept... it seems that that develops out of also the feeling of the space. That that also helps, although we, I know personally, suddenly I came to the conclusion that the sense of humor was the main point to deal with that. But I found that, there too, when one completely lets go of the thoughts, and when they really begins to expand, getting into just space and the all pervading quality, you see, the thoughts don't necessary vanish automatically, completely, but they seem less real. They just soon become part of the space. But I suppose the spark of energy of sense of humor would be necessary to have real insight into the transparent quality of thoughts and not really realizing it.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd then also the leap, because even then when one feels the kind of openness, there's still very open, I know, I've experienced it over and over again, a sort of feeling of, I can feel it but there's still, \"I'm feeling it,\" \"I'm feeling.\" It is so familiar. And now I'm feeling that space, and so there's still something fairly watchful checking on this, \"Now this is happening.\" And I almost have to propel oneself into it. It's partly letting go and partly just propelling oneself into it. And, almost holds one's breath, that having taken the leap that one doesn't then immediately create another reaction of observing it, commenting on it.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd that was the king and then the spiritual advisor-- I mean, sorry that was-- I skipped the king. The king was the bowing down, surrendering, process of surrendering, letting go completely, surrendering. Which is surrending, I suppose, of the watchfulness of the observer of the consciousness. And then, that sudden leap comes from the spiritual advisor, which still idea of nirvana. We're trying to attain something, kind of spiritually ambitious aspect, which also then seems to make a split between enlightenment and confusion. And then, I suppose, there's returning to the ground of just the emptiness, openness. But still, maybe we're feeling that that-- that this is enlightenment, or still there could be that element, so it would have to end up by realizing that there's no particular enlightenment as such or ignorance as such. Therefore, there's no particular battle. I mean, the battle seems very real somehow to me still, because the methods of approaching the problems, because almost one begins to recognize what's happening in the mind. Those methods of dealing with it are so vivid and that it really seems to produce some effect. One has the occasional flash of being able to put into effect. So, for me, the state of saying there is no battle at all, there never has been any castle, is rather the realm of theory, right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=1234.0,1798.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: This idea of it coming in flashes seems to be helpful to me. [INAUDIBLE WORDS] It is almost-- it's so quick because something comes in and starts saying that now it's happened. That's what makes it only a flash, because it almost barely happened, and then something comes along and says, \"Oh gee, that's too bad. It's happened now.\" And the whole thing is *completely* just ruined. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose that's the-- there are a lot of teaching is connected with sudden enlightenment. In many ways, it's misunderstood in terms of being shortcut, as such, but a sudden glimpse. It's inevitable, even the gradual path. And even gradual gradual path, as such, have been presented, but there had to be some sudden discovery of something. The gradualness only comes in terms of not expecting anything. Being patient and not expecting anything. That path should be regarded as the goal, and the goal should be regarded as path. But sudden process of discovering conflict, really, to start with. And somehow it seems that the conflict starts the sudden click into the realization. I mean, if there isn't any problem that we wouldn't be-- we wouldn't try to solve the problem at all in the ordinary or everyday process of life. Same thing. So therefore, that's very powerful, that's very... victorious one, that there's no particular obstacle at all. Whenever there is obstacle arises that means that some conflicts with-- between the background and the energy process. And then, somebody likes introduce into next process. Which is exactly the same as the ultimate attainment of buddhahood as been explained by theory that says that when the bodhisattva who reaches the ultimate stage before enlightenment, the tenth bhumi, he realize that his glimpse of the awake is only seeing like through a full moon light. When he realizes that, he begin to see that his vision is only like full moon light, rather than sunlight, then suddenly that reinforces to the next stage of vajra samadhi, is the ultimate awake state of realization.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo therefore, this case, this continual conflicts is the ego conflicts, conflicts that be started with ego. So, in this way, you should be grateful to the ego. It isn't villain, it isn't something that we should destroy and kill it, get rid of it. But it's something that you should-- we should use as part of the, like somehow there's a manure of experience. We should use as part of the process of cultivating, process of awakening. But always some kind of sudden glimpse is necessary, which is, in fact, the ultimate communication with the teacher or the disciple or disciple to himself. Every experience develops in process of communication, because the inspiration arises from compassion, which is ultimate communication, and wisdom arises from ultimate sharpness. Such precision of being right on the point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo building of the castle and having started the battle of ego is learning process rather than something that we had to do it. It's part of the necessary arrangement, part of the necessary process. Seems very much that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=1798.0,2147.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: In this process, there's-- in the picture of the castle and its destruction, there's... you know, you would ask how now that this is-- that we have focused this particular obstacle, how are we going to overcome it? And it all took place with the certainty that it was going to be a complete picture. And so what was sort of missing in the exposition was an understanding of what makes this process go on. I mean, in other words, a question of effort arises.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm. Well, that seems to be quite obvious. That's why it is the process of evolutionary process rather than anything else. In other word, that if you started on the non-reacting way of dealing with guards at the beginning, then quite obviously that you have to get to the heart of the matter. How to really put things inactive, properly, which is the dealing with the impulse of the generals. And the same thing applies to gradually as we go along. I mean, there will be automatically a sort of leading point, like if you are going to buy a house, you also have to buy furniture, you also have to buy crockery, and all the rest of it. It just comes spontaneously one after the other. And since each process is a sudden leap, a sudden discovery, which heightens the sharpness of your onward going energy. Because you have discovered something, therefore that energy is automatically led to the next one. Of course, the problem arises, as we had found out, is what's going to happen at the end when we have done everything, gone over everything? And then, of course, instead of onward going process it's in a sense sort of returning process to the overthrowing only that which drives us, which is the ambition to become enlightened one. So the-- this type energy becomes such intelligent state, that it only it doesn't see-- it only see-- not only does it sees the onward process, but it also sees all directions. So whatever comes any direction being seen through, so therefore, the one particular area that you haven't been examined is ambition to become enlightened, ambition of the achievement itself, which automatically build some kind of hangups on your process.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn other word, it's the not looking the-- methods are hangups. So, once you become more skillful in next more refined form of method, then the previous method is very much of second hand kind of method, and it's a very crude method.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=2147.0,2419.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Could one-- you've described this whole thing as a sequential process, but somehow it almost seems as if-- that it goes on all the time. I mean, wouldn't-- well, I mean non-resistance could be there, and maybe even a sense of humor, and even not-- I mean, ambition for enlightenment. Couldn't that somehow be there all the time?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Even though the battle wouldn't-- isn't won, haven't won the battle yet.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, it takes place all the time. But a different emphasis. That sometime the prime minister becomes more vivid in a situation, sometime the king becomes more vivid in situation, sometimes spiritual advisor becomes more vivid in a situation. You see, this building of a castle takes place with us every minute, every moment. We build the castle all the time, we're in process of building of castle all the time. So there's-- it depends on the various intensity of the situation, what comes, then you have to deal with it that way. But this doesn't mean to say very methodically worked out and predictive [pause] move necessarily at all, but it's depends on the intensity. Each intensity of depth of ego's mechanism has the wisdom to deal with that automatically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=2419.0,2516.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: One of the most difficult things, for me at least, is having to apparently stand almost still. It seems like you have to just stand still for a long time while you deal with the very small things. Because it's like the ambition keeps saying, \"Forget about that. It doesn't matter if you don't really learn how to handle the little things.\" You know, the undercurrent of ego's personality, and, you know, get on to something more, bigger or something more concrete. Because it feels like we just have to stagnate almost while you thoroughly get into the undercurrent of your character, and just put more ofthe sanity in it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Put more...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: More of the sanity in it, like handle the little things that bother you, which often you like to forget about in trying to get on to something more.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that seems to be also biggest problem. In spite being-- seems to be insignificant. That is so. But, on the other hand, trying to handle the bigger things is often offputting. Because that means you have a further ambition to completely wipe out the whole problem and transform yourself into a good person. So the-- it seems that most effective and most spontaneous is do you handle with the-- handle the little situations, the different conflicts that arises in the state of mind, because then it is like continuously putting, slowly, gradually building of the strength. I think that's very important. Rather than trying to become extremely powerful and completely purify the situation, which is very difficult, almost impossible. It's rather like in order to destroy a wall, you have to destroy it stone by stone rather than trying to knock out whole wall.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=2516.0,2677.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nKARL SPRINGER: You know, Rinpoche, the whole thing has got me completely bummed. I mean, it seems that everything I would do -- could do, can do, will do -- is out of ego. Everything. Just everything, you know. I want to be an enlightened person, I really do. [laughter] And then, okay, you say I have to give that up. Sure, right, so that I can become an enlightened person. [laughter] I mean, I find it very hard to escape from this kind of-- and even you know, what's the difference if I do the little things, because I think that I should do the little things, because that's the right way to do it. Because, I mean-- how does-- how do you open that up, that kind of feeling that everything is just all going in the same direction of ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: There's a story called, \"Everything that rises must converge.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=2677.0,2753.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Has anybody got answer?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I would suggest that you be very comfortable right where you are now. Enjoy it. Whatever ego trips, fine, but watch it. Get outside of yourself, see what you're doing, within this framework of getting off the ego trip. Just watch yourself, don't push, and gradually you'll get rid of this ego attachment. You might try going a couple days without food and lose the compulsive attachment there. \"Oh gee, at twelve o'clock I've got to eat.\" You might try going a month or two without sex. You'd find [INAUDIBLE] it may be different from what you expect. Losing that attachment. Then, when you lose the attachments, great, enjoy it, but it's in a different way, you see. As you lose each attachment, you still do the same things, maybe, maybe not, but it's within a different feeling. So I think you're trying to do it all at once. You're trying to push a button and get there. You're not enjoying the trip. This is the American way, you know. Zip on a jet plane. But, when you relax, you enjoy the trip, you watch yourself, you say, \"Here is enough, now is enough, there's no place to go,\" And all of the sudden, in the moment of now, relax here and now, feeling it, enjoying it, you start to...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=2753.0,2844.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: That kind of thing could be in a way very dangerous advice, to watch oneself. When I was in college, one of the things that probably had more to do with me leaving college than any was, I was in class and talking and this professor said something that struck me very much as exactly where I was headed if I stayed with these people, like, and I was talking to my teacher, and he said to me, I said something, he said to me, \"Now what makes you think that you should feel that way?\" [laughter] I was seeing that to the observer, being an observer and not being-- having it be a pitfall would be a very subtle thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: It's also really hard to watch yourself without-- just being the spiritual advisor, you know. I think, that’s kind of what it is, in a way.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's interesting thought. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: From what you have said, if I understand, there's no where to go anyway. So why should we want to take any trips, any journeys? There's no desire to, just do nothing, relax.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's happened to the castle meantime, then?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Well, you'll just see what happens. [laughs; loud laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=2844.0,2957.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: It seems like you just sit there and let things happen. I mean, the whole thing that's keeping this endless dream process going is like some cybernetic nervous chemical reaction that goes on inside your whole fiber of being. And like, I know in my own experience, you know, one day I might experience the conquest of the king for a second, and the next minute I'll-- the next day I'll experience the conquest of the impulse. And it always-- it doesn't always go in a ladder sequence. It can be up there one moment, here in another moment. But it's only like a flash. So like, it keeps telling me that somewhere there is a structure to it, and that I'm just being, you know, I'm seeing the different parts of it. And that if I totally ignore it, then I'll just be in the waves, which can be very-- really a gas, you know what I mean. You can be thrown here and there, enjoying it. But when you begin to get a glimpse of it, it just seems to call for work, you know, or for concentra-- for effort and yet try to remain, you know. The whole thing is to expend effort as much as you possibly can and then release it. You know, expend it and release it and expend it and release it, so that you don't quite get caught up in either the effort or the releasing. That's hard. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nOne thing I was just going to say that I sort of learned from this whole outlay of the castle is that for a long time the experience that happened to me has been really sort of guiding every waking moment. And I sort of realized that for myself at least the clear light was a spiritual advisor. It was like, really the spiritual advisor. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's good discovery.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Yeah, it's true.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=2957.0,3120.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Is it possible that this process of breaking through the various stages, which you say is automatic [INAUDIBLE WORDS]. Is it possible that actually it has happened to us and it is happening to us all the time, as well as there's the building up but there's also the breaking down? And that really all you're doing is showing us some new places to look in our experiences. Like to put our awareness in a different direction and see that instead of the other?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there's certain requirements of the energy. A constant alertness but the alertness is so refined form of alertness. It doesn't really look for trouble as a defeat or as threatening gesture, but this alertness is kind of expansion of complete being in the present which is not really looking for answer but looking in terms of seeing from a different--\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --one is not wanting to get enlightened, but you discover one day that you have enlightened-- become enlightened already, because this alertness is such efficient and such relaxed alertness. It doesn't look for battle of any kind, so it's question of seeing from different angles. That's what the teaching is for, rather than built or destroy anything. It's in other word, seeing the castle in a different angle. The existence of castle and absence of the castle and non-existence castle as such at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=3120.0,3266.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80086/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DISCUSSION PART 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Rinpoche, not to question the benefits of the applications of the teachings of the seminar from-- in terms of the structure of the castle, but, to put it in terms of who receives the teaching, it's the prime minister who receives the concepts and adds them to his storehouse of knowledge. There's an expansion of consciousness that seems to take place either during the teachings or from some other kind of process that seems in some ways to expand the king. And through meditation practice there’s also an apparent understanding of how the battle works, the spiritual advisor is also strengthened. So it seems that we have more weapons for the fortress and the castle--\r\n\r\n\r\n[AUDIO CUTS OUT]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=3266.0,3350.17794"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80087","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19701231VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80087/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=0.64,4.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80087/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Seminar entitled Battle of Ego\nheld at Tale of the Tiger,\nVermont.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=4.48,8.55"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80087/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number seven\nheld December 31st, 1970.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=8.55,14.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80087/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital remaster\nmade October 2005.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=14.88,19.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80087/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\n[Laughs; laughter]\nWell, who's going to start?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=19.6,35.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80087/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=35.08,40.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80087/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like\nto hear it again.\n[laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=40.26,47.155"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80087/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=52.64,57.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80087/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --with the point\nthat we wanted to make,\nwanted to share,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=57.48,69.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80087/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this experience\nis not particularly\nonly the highlight alone","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=69.9,78.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80087/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but the process of growth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=78.12,85.56"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80087/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right from the beginning\nof the landscape","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=88.33,94.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80087/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and the building of the castle\nand the destruction--\nor dissolutionment,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=94.09,100.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80087/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rather, up to\nthat point of question:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490#t=100.77,119.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148906/file/273490/transcript/80087/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Does the battle of ego\ntook 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