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Anuttarayoga unites action and experience. Causal characteristics are no longer involved, and things simply are as they are -- direct, precise, straightforward, and beyond any notion of purity or impurity. In tantra in general, relationship with teacher or guru changes; shifts from the ferryman in mahayana to the warrior in vajrayana. Samaya definition; practitioner’s acceptance into tantric tradition, lineage, which creates all sorts of challenges for the student. Role of guru as benevolent dictator in tantra.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Lion's Roar","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 04"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: THE LION'S ROAR: Part Two, Chapter 8: Anuttarayoga\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-lion-s-roar-921.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 4 (in contained book THE LION'S ROAR)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-385.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eApr 23 2025 to Dec 04 2025 Transcribing: Eirikur Baldursson Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Ruth Veleta, Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAnuttarayoga, the seventh of the nine yanas, and the first of the three higher tantras. Anuttarayoga unites action and experience. Causal characteristics are no longer involved, and things simply are as they are -- direct, precise, straightforward, and beyond any notion of purity or impurity. In tantra in general, relationship with teacher or guru changes; shifts from the ferryman in mahayana to the warrior in vajrayana. Samaya definition; practitioner\u0026rsquo;s acceptance into tantric tradition, lineage, which creates all sorts of challenges for the student. Role of guru as benevolent dictator in tantra.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1766092537_19730525vctr1-audio-prod-cticustrmstr-access.mp3"]},"duration":4081.16094,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/299/064/original/1766092537_19730525vctr1-audio-prod-cticustrmstr-access.mp3?1766092538","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":4081.16094,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730525VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19730525VCTR1 - Public Seminar - San Francisco - The Nine Yanas I - Talk 8]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, Public Seminar entitled The Nine Yanas I, held in San Francisco, California. This is Talk Eight, \"Anuttarayoga\", recorded on May 25th, 1973. This is a CTI custom remaster made May 2025.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=0.0,35.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Tonight, we are going to discuss the anuttarayogayana or \"anuyoga.\" That a sense of perspective to reality from kriyayogayana, of purity, and that of upayoga, of a sense of bringing the action and experience together. That \"anu\" means, literally -- \"anu\" literally, or \"la-me\", \"la-me\" in Tibetan word which means \"none higher.\" \"La\" means \"higher\", \"me\" means \"not.\" So \"none higher than this.\" Anuttara is the highest tantric experience that one can ever relate with. That there is a sense of personal involvement. The experience of tantra is extremely personal one. Rather than purely philosophical or spiritual or religious one, in a general sense; that there is really definitely personal sense. The reason why anuttarayoga is regarded as highest of all, is that the sense of everything is mind's creation, mental projection, and everything is based on mental purity, that notion is dropped. That everything *is* what is, rather than purely a causal characteristic of certain consequence of based on idea of purity or impurity as such. As far as anuttarayoga is concerned, that there is no notion of causal characteristic, of chain reactions, or ecological consequence. But things are based on as it *is*. The chain reactions have their own basic nature, which makes even the results of chain reactions are as they are. So you can't have origin or the results or fruition of things *at all*. That things are cut-and-dry -- if you like to speak that way. That things are straightforward, definitely straightforward. Direct, precise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=35.0,249.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there is something else that we haven't discussed in the basic tantric tradition, which is common to all the tantric traditions -- kriya, upa, anuttara, so forth -- is that the importance of the transmitt*er* of the tantric strength, or the energy, to the student, the importance of the \"vidyadhara.\" \"Vidyadhara\" is the \"holder of crazy wisdom.\" \"Vidya\" means \"science\"; \"dhara\" means \"holder.\" The \"holder of scientific knowledge.\" In this case it's higher level of crazy wisdom level. And in Tibetan language it's \"yeshe\" means \"wisdom\", \"cholwa\" is \"gone wild.\" \"The wisdom gone wild.\" The crazy wisdom. That holder of crazy wisdom or holder of yeshe cholwa, holder of scientific knowledge, is the guru, spiritual master.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=249.0,357.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the tantric approach to guru, we could apply from the kriyayogayana, upayogayana, and anuttarayana, whatever we talk about, that the notion towards the guru or the teacher, is that quite different from that of the bodhisattva's approach that we've discussed already. In the bodhisattva level, that teacher or master is regarded as a ferryman. That the ferryman's notion is that ferryman had to save his own life as well as he had to take his fellow passengers as well. So there is mutual understanding of sympathetic approach; that fighting for common enemy, fighting for common element. That kalyanamitra or spiritual friend, from the mahayanist point of view is friend who saves you, the driver of the vehicle, charioteer of the vehicle, or the pilot of the vehicle. That the pilot is also in danger; if the pilot didn't lead, operate the vehicle properly, that pilot's life is also equally dangerous, as well as the passengers at the same time, in the mahayanist tradition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=357.0,478.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But in the tantra, it's the notion of the warrior that we be discussing early on. That guru, teacher, spiritual master, has tremendous power. And also possesses a lot of understanding in terms what particular situation that that particular master is dealing with. From tantric point of view, that spiritual friend is no longer spiritual friend. From tantric point of view the guru is a dictator -- in a benevolent sense [laughs] -- who minds every step of your life experience, and who also demands faith, trust, within bondage of samaya vow. \"Samaya\" in this case literally means \"sacred word\". In Tibetan, \"tamtsik\" -- \"tam\" means \"sacred\", \"tsik\" means \"word.\" Samaya vow is sacred word. That you have mutual experience; that the guru's involvement is also in the-- within the realm of sacredness. And student's role in the involvement in the tradition of teaching, discipline, is also sacred. So therefore there's a mutual sacredness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=478.0,609.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And therefore, the guru is regarded as the buddha in flesh, buddha in human body. That guru *is* the herukas, that guru *is* the definite manifestation of divine principle of all kinds. That's why in tantric traditions, that when you are accepted in a tantric tradition, that you begin to take certain abhisheka principles. Which is important. That commitment that you made, tantric tradition. Which is in some sense the Christian tradition of confirmation, anointment. Or that maybe similarly that Judish-- Jewish tradition of a bar mitzvah. [Laughter] That from today onward, you are accepted into the circle of grown-ups, in tantric level. That abhisheka, or the initiation as to the popularly called. Which is wrong translation: in fact initiation into certain tribesmanship or things like that are not quite necessarily applicable, and not quite a precise usage of the language, but that gives some general idea. That you are initiated into this particular creed, particular dogma. By the father of the tribe, the chief of the tribe, who execute the ceremony.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=609.0,775.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That in this case, therefore, the guru's role is regarded as chief, the warrior chief, who put you into all kinds of categories, challenges of all kinds. That you can't initiated just pleasantly, delightfully, smoothly. But you have to be put into a certain challenge, in which that you are made aware of the phenomenal world.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you remember there is a movie made and called \"A Man Called Horse,\" or something like that -- is it called \"Man Called Horse\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Yes. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Man Named Horse,\" \"Man Called Horse.\" What is it?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: \"A Man Called Horse.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=775.0,843.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"A Man Called Horse.\" And he had to go through all this acceptance into the tribal system, that he had to go through all kinds of trainings. Excruciating trainings. Challenges. That finally he begin to see himself in vision, of himself; see himself in a vision, see himself in vision, and so forth. That you begin to realize who you are, what you are. Which is interesting analogy. That spiritual friend turned into a tribal chief, this case. Begin to mind your business much heavier than you expected on the bodhisattva level. Extremely heavy-handed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=843.0,922.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And tantric tradition generally -- we are not particularly discussing tonight that of the anuttarayoga as such particularly here -- but we are discussing general tantric approach to life, in connection with the teacher, or the transmit*tor* as such. That we are discussing the need for devotion, to the guru, in tantric tradition. In Hinduism, which is regarded as a theistic religion, that devotion to guru is very conveniently developed, as devotion to Brahma, or god. The guru is the only link between you and God. That God is already mysterious, that \"thing\" out there. He or she, whatever, is out there already. That in order to find out whether God is he or she, that guru can only tell you what it *is*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=922.0,1001.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And a similar discipline that developed in Christianity, of Jehovah could be communicated only through Christ, that worship the latter. That worship the spoon, and the fork and the plate, which relate with the food. [Laughs] Link between you and food is the spoon. That you ought to-- you have to hold it with this certain practice of meditation, contemplative practices of discipline, which is your hand. The hand of devotional practice, related with the spoon of faith to Christ. And Christ *is* the spoon which relates with the food, directed toward Jehovah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=1001.0,1069.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in the Buddhist approach, that such idea of external being is completely ignored, and regarded it as extremely crude, primitive idea. [Laughs] That you do not need an interpreter between the language of god and language of human being, translator. And the function of a guru, from the Buddhist point of view, that which communicate the sense of mysteriousness of the world. That which communicate to you the sense of reality, from the Buddhist point of view. Which is nontheistic approach to tantra -- or atheistic approach to tantra; whatever you like to use, the word. Is that your spiritual friend, in this case, benevolent dictator who minds your business, begin to relate with you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=1069.0,1194.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The consequence of deception, ignorant, passion, is great. So you might keep yourself in the law and order; try to tune yourself into the law and order of the cosmic kingdom. And there is no question of, in terms of that guru representing the divine messenger as such. But guru is the sensible teacher, sensible scientist. Almost a level of sensible attorney, your lawyer, who tells you how to handle your life. That guru this case act as precisely as the role of attorney, who tells you how to handle your life. But attorney in this case is not as attorney that we pay money to attorney, but we pay our attorney of the guru with the faith, trust.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=1194.0,1302.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And seems to that's natural situation, that if we are in trouble, if we are highly involved with our trouble, we actually are absolutely fucked up and helpless, desperate, that we begin to relate with our attorney as guru. If we are not fucked up all that, and we think that attorney is also rejectable, not indispensable, that we have light-hearted relationship to attorney, our lawyer. So in tantric level that-- or in the spiritual level that we are already fucked up in any case, completely in mess, for the point of view of that we do not know who we are what we are, let alone the cases one may-- might be. That we can't even create or manufacture an argument, because we are uncertain who is arguing, who's putting the case. So we are absolutely fucked up. We do need our attorney, our lawyer, very badly, extremely badly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=1302.0,1394.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In tantric tradition, the sense of guru plays extremely important part. And reason why that the guru plays important part is because you are desperate. That you're commit yourself in much more involved situation, such as like tantra discipline. That the guru's word is regarded as absolute, super truth; not just ordinary old truth, but *vajra* truth. Truth with a statement, truth with a power behind it. If you reject such truth, you can get hurt, you can get destroyed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=1394.0,1460.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you take threefold vows, committing yourself to the guru. Form of guru is regarded as self-existing truth, manifestation of the truth, search towards basic sanity, of vajrayana. And speech of the guru is regarded as mantra, proclamation of that anything that you sound, intellectual level, is absolutely accurate. If you doubt such a thing that you can get hurt, destroyed, your intuition can get cut down. And mind of guru is cosmic mind; that if you doubt of *his* mind, that you can also get hurt, because you could end up into the sense of *in*sanity, fundamental freak out, of ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=1460.0,1547.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The tantric tradition makes tremendous importance in the transmit*ter*, who is the guru, plays extremely important part in this. That form of the guru, speech of the guru, and mind of the guru, had to be respected and surrendered, and you are willing to relate with that situation as absolutely hundred percent. Basic sane situation. In a level of a benevolent dictator. Once we trod on tantric practice, that we are switching ourselves into the bodhisattva's practice of kind and gentle, of democracy. We are entering into the realm of dictators, the benevolent dictator. That the guru plays extremely important part in the whole thing. If you disobey guru's message in the form or the speech or the mind, that you are striked, you are straight down to vajra hell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=1547.0,1646.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The consequence of getting involved with the vajrayana seems to be very dangerous, very powerful. Without any preparation. That is the precisely reason that I personally feel that introducing tantric practices in this country prematurely, is more of a destruction of individualities of their development than help. So, at this level that the practice that goes on within the students who studies with me, are in the level of basic Buddhism, of hinayana and element of mahayana. But we haven't got into that kill-and-cure philosophy of tantra yet. Hopefully that we'll be able to get into that in near future, very near future.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=1646.0,1726.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think that's the vows. The-- there is something like seven hundred and fifty vows of tantric discipline, \"samaya shila,\" had this-- that's developed in tantric literatures, tantric traditional practices. That all of these are based on the guru. And if you mistreat the guru, if you have a doubt of the guru, if you have a vengeful attitude towards the guru, that you can get striked. That in fact before the tantric samaya shila develops, that the guru gives you water of oath, and you drink this water. Having drunken such water, this water either is going to be saving grace, of developing basic sanity, or else it's going to be absolute atomic bomb. You're going to be get killed, destroyed, into the highest form that one can ever imagine, into the vajra hell. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=1726.0,1823.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And reason why that I felt that tantric introduction to this country in excitement aspect is very exciting of course. But when we discuss the consequences or the problem that involved with tantric is very scary. That people should know the danger of tantra rather than advantages of tantra -- that you could walk in the air, you could fly, that you could develop inner heat, of central heating system. [Laughter] All those little things are-- that you are thinking: once you become millionaire, you can buy Mercedes, a Jaguar, have all kinds of penthouse places you could live on. But that's not the point. That how to become-- what's the dangers of becoming millionaire, is the question. Is the problem that we are facing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=1823.0,1881.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I thought that in connecting with the mahayogayana-- anuttara, rather, is that all tantric approaches to life need a transmitter to transmit such spiritual power. It could be turned into good or bad, powerful or destructive. That there is an analogy that developed in Tibetan tradition, saying that if you take the discipline of tantra, it is like putting a poisonous snake in a bamboo pipe. That the snake could go either up or down. In connection with tantra, that once one is connected with the relationship with tantra, that you have no choice, there's no compromise, there's no happy medium, there's no madhyamika, or the middle, happy compromising system anymore at *all*. Once one get into tantric discipline, that either you go up, or you go down. Either you become buddha or you might become Rudra, of cosmic monster.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=1881.0,2001.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The basic point of mahayo-- anuttarayoga is concerned, that's a question of trying to relate with the abhisheka principles that goes with all tantric practitions-- practitioners, whatever. That basic key point of anuttarayoga is that finally that we begin to realize sense of mahamudra principle that we discussed last night, can be realized and worked with; that there is no doubt about anything *at all*. That basic mahamudra principle could be seen and felt; in consequence that there's no doubt in relating with all the symbolism, iconographical -- herukas, or dakinis. That those situations become very straight, direct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=2001.0,2085.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That real manifestation of your particular buddha nature could come through you, able to face with it, as one basic heruka, or yidam, is called in Tibetan, that you can relate with. That heruka is manifested as vajra nature of that you could relate with it if you're vajra nature, padma nature, you could relate with if you're padma nature. That you have no doubt that that particular principle that's involved in life situation is also workable, highly powerful; that you could relate with it. And you can transcend -- reason why it is called \"anuttara\" or \"mahayoga,\" is because that you are able to work with such principle, as *complete* union, that the divine quality is no longer foreign element.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=2085.0,2164.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That your existence also become divine element. You begin to have *highest* point of vajra pride, and highest point of mahamudra principle. That all the mudras, all the signs that seen in life situation are also workable, something that one can relate with it, or work with it. And things become more vivid, and precise, and extraordinarily powerful. That at last you begin to realize, and you begin to solve the mysteries of the cosmic... games. That jokes are no longer jokes or games, anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=2164.0,2219.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think that's the one basic point of mahayoga. Is that world has been seen as workable, no longer mystery. Mysticism, as we know, has profundities, but in the mahayoga level, anuttarayoga level, that no longer it is a mystery. It's something that you can work with, something that you can relate with. The wetness of water is direct message. Hotness of fire is direct message. So, no longer there is mystery involved. By understanding of the whole thing, that we begin to trust our world, to realize there's no such thing as cosmic conspiracy. That nobody's trying to get one-upmanship over this. There's no such thing as cosmic conspiracy. That world is rational world, kind world. There's no jokes involved, there's no games involved. It is a workable situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=2219.0,2326.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we can say that that quality of anuttarayoga or the mahayoga is realize that world is safe world, kind world, that world is not trying to make a mockery of *you*. Which has been generally understood, until we get to that point. That we think that some trickery is involved. We should be smarter than what's happening. We should at least try and make sure that we are not conned, by our life, by our situation of life. We should much more smarter, cunning. That conmanship at this point is unnecessary, which is highest discovery of mankind. All sentient beings could realize that, is that if you begin to realize that we don't have to con anybody, is the ultimate anuttarayoga *indeed*. That we don't have to con anybody, including ourselves.\r\n\r\n\r\nThank you. We could discuss.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=2326.0,2420.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, when you said at a certain point the world is realized to be benevolent -- \"kind world\" you said -- my immediate reaction to that is, how could that be? I mean it seems to be [INAUDIBLE] indifferent. I mean the forces of nature seem to be indifferent. If we have an earthquake right now, is that regarded, you know, manifestation of a kind world or a benevolent world?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And at that point that you are not-- your mind is not trained to realize the mahayoga. That's why.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well I still don't see it. I mean all right, there's an earthquake, and that's a kind-- I mean what-- who is the recipient of that kindness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nobody. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Then who calls it kind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Who calls it kind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who calls what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Who calls that earthquake a, you know, benevolent action [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You do it. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: As I'm swallowed up in a crack of the earth.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's your trip. [Laughter] You produce the teaching.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I didn't hear what you said?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You produce the teaching, yourself. You create Buddhism. There's no Buddhism as such, but you produce Buddhism by *yourself*. That you want to relate with Buddhism opposed to samsaric, you produce nirvana because you experience samsara; it's your trip. The tantric tradition talks that much more powerfully than those of the hinayanist or mahayanist. That it's *your* trip, precisely. The earthquake's a good joke, and good message, saying that this is your world, what you produced. And highly energetic and powerful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=2420.0,2564.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sam?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: You were talking about the relationship, you said, between teacher and student. You said that that was based on trust. In your poe-- that I can understand. Then in your poetry, you state very very emphatically, and, you know, it rings loudly, \"Do not trust.\" [in Timely Rain] \"Do not trust.\" Is that trust that same thing as \"do not trust,\" or is it something else?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. If you don't trust then you do not trusting. That is the saving grace. That you are not trusting; you are distrustful. Then there's some continuity. That's precisely in the mahayanist talks about the emptiness of everything. Emptiness is the \"truth\", in reality. And wisdom. If you trust in emptiness, non-existence, distrustful, that that *is* continual trust. There's some kind of faith involved at the same time. Which could be workable, precisely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=2564.0,2647.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You used the word \"divine\" a few times tonight.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Word what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: \"Divine.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Sacred, divine. At what point in the progression from hinayana to mahayana to vajrayana does that word start to refer-- or when does that word become relevant, to the experience of the student? Could--?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The divine or the divinity involved, benevolent, can be only relevant if there are no perceiver of them. In other words, god can be legitimate experience, if there's no watcher for the god. The god can be only perceived if there's no worshiper of the god. In other word, Jehovah does exist as a workable experience, if there's no Christians, no Jews, no Christ. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=2647.0,2732.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: It seems like we're studying hinayana and mahayana, but your style is tantric even in the hinayana and mahayana.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's the very important point, is that as far as the how to handle life situation, that we could relate with the vajrayana and mahayana level, as far as our practices goes that we could relate with. Purely they are all even just little pinch of mahayana. That that's the discipline is -- or the philosophy is much practical-- much more practical, and life activity is more workable. And those are the-- seem to be two mysteries, that people don't understand actually: that you have belief, your belief had to be destroyed into the rationale of hinayana Buddhism. That your practice and your taking chance had to be raised from the simple-minded level of hinayana into the mahayana *and* the vajrayana if possible as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=2732.0,2819.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I was...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [INAUDIBLE] karmic debt?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Could you say something more about what a karmic debt is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Karmic debt.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Karmic debt.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Karmic debt? Well, it seems to be very simple. That karmic debt is that if we decide to recreate either good or bad activities, that we going to get involved with the results of that. And then by getting involved with the results we sow further seed as well at the same time. Like seeing a friend once, having tea with your friend, have lunch with your friend, sows further seeds to have another lunch with your friend, another the dinner with your friend. And so you go on, and on and on, *and* on. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=2819.0,2883.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I'm a little mixed up about something. If you don't get to the tantric level until you're through with the hinayana and the mahayana stages, after you're through with hinayana and mahayana why should you still be so fucked up that you need this guru-dictator? By then I should think you shouldn't need it that much anymore?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's the precisely the point. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That you do need. You thought you have accomplished lots, you've achieved a lot, but still you could come up-- come back with the carrying the neurosis of the hinayana and the mahayana. And you need somebody to destroy those. Are very powerful ones, highly spiritually materialistic, extremely powerful ones, which you need to be cut down. That you create wisdom by involve with the hinayana, and you create hang-ups as you go-- goes along with it. Only when you get to mahayana you create further wisdom, greater wisdom, paramita wisdom. But you create also paramita hang-up [laughter] as well. So those things to be cut down by the dictator of the guru, which is much more higher, and more powerful. There's no end.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: [INAUDIBLE] practice! [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's no end, my dear friend. [Laughter] [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=2883.0,2985.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I was wondering, at this level of anuttarayoga, like this, this forbidden feeling that you were transmitting, I got a feeling of desperation, without question. And if that was so, I was wondering, is there a resulting feeling of egolessness then, at that point? I mean is there less of a watcher with the student, at that point? Especially if you could have that trust within you?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. But at the same time there is also problems, of hang-ups, that was precisely this lady discussed -- or lady and I discussed -- as well happens. Which could be cut down in next maha ati yoga, that we're going to discuss in the coming seminar. Which I don't think you should miss -- anybody who's gonna be here should hear the whole thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [INAUDIBLE]. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=2985.0,3054.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: You mentioned that tantric practices were being prematurely introduced into this country and that led to a loss of individuality? You said something like that. Elaborate on that, explain it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that tantra has been introduced too early in this country, definitely so. Particularly through the Hinduism. That Hindus are [UNCLEAR: east?] tantra. There's no hinayana approach to Hinduism that had been presented in this country. The Hinduism did exist in India, was that before you become sannyasin, or before you become tantric practitioner, of the religious traditions, that you had-- you raise your kids, you work in your farm, and you relate with your country. Those are the hinayana equivalent of Hinduism. That which hasn't been introduced in this country. That only the glamorous part of Hinduism has been introduced to this country. Which is the cream of it, which those infants, you know, can't handle it. That Hinduism hasn't been really matured enough. That Hinduism is a nationalistic religion of India. In order to become a Hindu, you have to become good citizen of India. And raise your kids, relate with the whole thing, cook good food. And be good father and all those things. Similarly that had developed in Judaism, equally.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd seems that problem that we are facing is that without having all those basic grounds people are being introduced highlights, which are extraordinarily electric and powerful. And people suffer lot that. Because they are even not level of relate with their families, their parents; people decide to regard their parents as enemies. And there's no social structure, of solidness. They begin to decide dislike their mother's cooking. They'd rather go to restaurant, than they taste their mother's cooking. And there's no sacredness involved with the family involved. [Laughs] Maybe that's why there are so many restaurants around here. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd that seems to be a problem, actually, sociologically speaking. Or spiritually speaking, whatever. There has been a problem. That Hinduism that presented in this country is highly powerful, extremely mystical, it's level of tantra. That there's no hinayana introduced to how to behave. I mean that's the problem, that's always the problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=3054.0,3273.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But I feel very much what you say, about the danger of some people leaping over something that you have to have before in order to-- I just wonder whether it has to do with the speed of the time, right? I feel that there's a-- right now there's-- everything is moving at incredible speed, and everybody wants something fast. I wonder how that can be brought in connection with something that has gone through centuries, say, and tradition. How did the, say-- I don't know all the phases of tantra, you know, hinayana, mahayana, are lower, and tantra is dangerous when you get into it without preparation. And I wonder about that. That everybody wants-- and particularly in America, instant nirvana, kind of.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's is that America had actually achieved materialistic vajrayana. [Laughter] And they expect their spiritual equivalent. Because they're so spoiled! There's automation and the whole thing is materialistically that they gone through hinayana level of manual farming and everything. And the mahayana level of recreating a republican democratic society of the world, of American world. That they take pride in taking oath, worshipping the flag and so forth, in the mahayana benevolent level. And beyond that they have also achieved vajrayana materialism of automation; there are all kinds of power trips and all kinds of warfare, you know: missiles and bombs, airplanes; everything is achieved on a vajrayana level. And *now* that they're *so* spoiled, in that level, they're asking for spiritual equivalent of that. But they don't want to go back to the original hinayana level of materialism. But now they are so spoiled, and you have everything in your life happening, so they're asking direct, that: \"We are-- we have everything what we want, so therefore we have also should have spiritually what we want.\" Which is tantric materialism, spiritual tantric materialism they're asking for. That seems to be the problem. And if any wise tantric teachers are concerned, you don't get it! [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=3273.0,3495.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Would you say that most drug trips are tantric spiritual materialism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. The drug trips, LSD and so forth, are not tantric enough as they *think* they are. It is purely hinayana level of materialism. Or no, I'm sorry, *mahayana* level of materialism, rather. That, \"Drugs are good for society, that provides good vibrations, goodness and love. Realization of for towards goodness.\" So the drug culture is, could be related as the mahayana level, rather than tantric level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=3495.0,3553.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Rinpoche, traditionally the surrender to the spiritual friend, and devotion to the spiritual friend, was enabled by this all-encompassing love the student would have for the spiritual friend. And that enabled him to have faith and trust in him. And does that have any place...? That emotion is leading the student to have trust in--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think everything; that your emotions and your trust and everything. That's what the ideal devotion is; that your emotion is surrendered, and your trust as well as everything. It's a big deal. Hundred percent. That's why the samaya vow towards the guru is one of the most important disciplines of tantra. That's why it is the most important. Without respecting your guru, you can't get tantric messages.\r\n\r\n\r\nThere's a story of Marpa seeing Naropa, and Naropa had miracle-ly created a spectrum of a mandala of Hevajra, with the colors and everything happening, above the altar. And Naropa asked Marpa, \"Would you like to prostrate to the mandala, or would you like to prostrate to the guru?\" And Marpa thought that it was a fantastic discovery, the guru's creation of magic, that \"I rather prostrate to the divine existence that I see.\" So he said \"I prostrate to the magic show.\" And he decided to do that. And Naropa said, \"You're out. And you didn't see the-- you didn't trust me, who is creator of the whole show. You didn't prostrate to me, you create-- you prostrate to my tentacles. That you are-- you still have to work harder.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSo it's a question of whether you trust the achievement of the magic, or the magician itself. The guru is this case, the tantric point of view *is* the magician in fact. Even rational twentieth-century mind, that guru has all kinds of magics. Not that the guru produces elephant in his hand, or turns the world upside down. But it has-- the guru has all kinds of magics that are involved. Which is ordinary-- seemingly ordinary, but irritating, unpleasant. Or surprising, entertaining, and so forth. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=3553.0,3756.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: What is the difference then between the guru and the Christian godhead?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Guru and what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: And the Christian godhead, or of the Hindu god?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The Christian approach to God is unreachable. Something is developed, right at the beginning. And the guru is immediate. For one thing he's being human being like yourself. And have to eat food, wear clothes like you do. So it's direct. And because that guru need basic human survival, therefore it is more threatening, from that point of view. You see what I mean? More threatening because that you can't exclude the guru as being something doesn't need *our* thing, that he could survive without *our* trips. That the guru does thrive with our trips. If we need food, the guru needs food as well. If we need a love affair, guru need a love affair. Guru's ordinary human being, but still powerful. That we begin to feel that we be personally undermined, or that the guru is begin to mind your business too close, too hot. That's why guru is powerful. The guru begin to ask you what food you eat. Guru begins to ask you what clothes you wear. And he begin to mind your business on those levels, of your relationships, your practice, your body, your job, your house. Guru begins to mind more. Whereas if it's God, you-- he could just be hanging out there, you know. [Laughter] He doesn't make any personal comments, except your conscience, which is your fantasy anyway. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=3756.0,3906.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: On the last night you mentioned \"no-mind,\" the term \"no-mind.\" And I was wondering if the structure can be identified; in other words the structure of no-mind. And its function or expression, are related to the tantric practitioner.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah, I mean no-mind means that there's no solid ego-centered clingings.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: How does that get one-mind? I was [UNCLEAR: sloppy with it?]. You brought the first one-mind up and then you went into no-mind and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One-mind is more primitive. That's the yogachara philosophy. That there is one-mind, opposed to no-mind. That no-mind is free from any ideas of having mind *at all*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Is one-mind a reflection of the guru?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Okay, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Acknowledge oneself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Then how does the function of no-mind express itself with the tantric practitioner, functionally?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: By itself. You don't have to introduce one-mind, with no-mind, but mind-- one-- no-mind becomes--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: So that would be crazy wisdom?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --whole world. Yeah. Yeah. That's precisely. 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[Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Shall we stop our meeting now then?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=4023.0,4082.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87921/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's good place to stop. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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Nobody.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=2478.97,2481.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87922/annotation/419","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: Then who calls it kind?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064#t=2481.09,2483.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164318/file/299064/transcript/87922/annotation/420","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who what?\nSPEAKER1: Who calls it 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