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Prajna sees through ego's game and transcends its two fixations: ego of concept and ego of individuality. Gives the metaphor of the sword of Manjushri, which simultaneously cuts through reference point and the outcome of reference point. This results in two-fold egolessness without any security.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 12 2024 to Jun 15 2025 Transcribing: JP Glutting Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Blaire Martin, Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1972"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAbout prajna, transcendental knowledge, from the mahayana point of view. Prajna sees through ego's game and transcends its two fixations: ego of concept and ego of individuality. Gives the metaphor of the sword of Manjushri, which simultaneously cuts through reference point and the outcome of reference point. This results in two-fold egolessness without any security.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/555/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759345040","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20251001-2006876-enaurf.mpga"]},"duration":2608.5515,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/555/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759345040","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/293/555/original/open-uri20251001-2006876-enaurf.mpga?1759343412","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2608.5515,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720420VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19720420VCTR1 - University of Colorado - Spring 1972 - Class 9]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, University of Colorado Classes 1972, held in Boulder, Colorado. This is class number nine, Prajna, held April 20th, 1972.\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is a CTI custom remaster made September 2024.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: The Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, speaking to his class, University of Colorado, 20 April 1972.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=0.0,35.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: LECTURE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In the last talk we had, there seem to be a-- there was a misunderstanding of two topics, subjects, in terms of order. That we had karuna bhavana first, and we haven't discussed the prajna, which is way of using the intellect. So, thought today we could discuss the prajna.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=35.0,97.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Prajna from this point of mahayana's approach -- having developed a sense of compassion and a sense of mahavipashyana that we have discussed -- that we could say prajna is the product of mahavipashyana experience. And \"prajna\" means \"complete knowledge\", literally. Tibetan term for that is \"sherap\", in which \"she\" means \"knowledge\" or \"cognitive mind which perceives knowledge\", \"cognition.\" And \"rap\" means the \"highest one\" or the \"best one.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=97.0,191.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So prajna, or sherap, in this case is knowledge that could see through different bondages of ego's game, ego's possessiveness, and ego's fear, paranoia. So, there are two types of ego levels in connection with prajna. That there is the ego of concept. or we could say ego of the dharma. And \"dharma\" in this case it means \"concept\" or \"idea.\" And then there's the ego of personality, which means something more than concept, it's individuality, sense of individuality. So two types of ego provides a kind of stronghold to maintain yourself, the sense of concept which relates with the whole area of unknown situations being labeled as known situations, so there's ego has permanent structural security. And then you have the other one, as ego of individuality, which is that you able to identify yourself with learning process as \"my experience\", \"my personal experience\" and \"related to me\" as such.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=191.0,337.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So these two types of ego process. We could say that the ego of concept, or the ego of dharma, is connected with the skandhas, up to the samskara, up to the fourth skandha. And the fifth skandha of consciousness is connected with that of ego of individuality. So that first, ego's way of behaving itself contains maintaining some process in which that we could put things into pigeonholes, ideas, which comes along with-- which need further reinforcement of impulse, perception, and so forth. So that prajna experience is transcending two types of ego level. So prajna, or sherap, or transcendental knowledge, we could say, is knowledge which sees through those two veils, or the two fixations, two concepts of ego. It has been said that, in the scriptures, those who have studied or practiced the hinayana path with absolute diligent, absolute discipline, patience, can only free from the ego of concept. And those who have studied the compassion, teaching of compassion or mahayana teaching, can free themselves from the ego of individuality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=337.0,522.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In this case individuality seem to have some element of very sensitive sense of individuality rather than the heavy concept of individuality is being \"me and my territory\" in the crude sense of ego's primitive concept. But somewhat it is based on a religious or spiritual experience in which that we associate ourselves with the experience of gaining experience, gaining certain process of achievement, in which that could you label that as \"my achievement\", \"my belonging\", and so on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=522.0,566.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that function of prajna in this sense is to see through the ego of dharma in which the concepts are depend on a relationship or individual relationship to situations. In other word, it is bounded by comparison. You cannot develop philosophical or metaphysical framework of reference without comparing each other. That concept is much more powerful than the other concept, and \"this is so because that is so\", \"light is light because we measured from the intensity of the darkness\", and so forth. It is very comparative situation, constantly. And because of that comparative situation, therefore the very idea of comparison in itself becomes dogma, rather than the outcome of it. So therefore it becomes ego's hang-up, ego's problem, so to speak, becomes a part of ego's makeup. Since ego-- process of ego is dependent on some definite definitions of things, and relying upon solid situation in which you can relate constantly. Whenever you are problem, you can use the same logic so that you can get answer, quickly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=566.0,692.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the sense of comparison, the logic of comparison, relativity, has been the first stronghold of ego from that sense. And prajna, the transcendental knowledge, cuts that through, cuts both ways. The transcendental knowledge-- the idea of transcendental knowledge is expressed by the metaphor of blade with the two-- sword with the two blades, the sword of Manjushri. That the sword cuts both the user and that to be used. So it's a simultaneous blow in the two directions. So in other word it cuts the reference point as well as it cuts the outcome of the reference point, as well at same time. Once you cut the reference point, automatically cuts the reference itself as well, naturally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=692.0,786.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But still it's knowledge, which sees beyond everything. That still it is regarded as intellectual understanding, in some sense, that there is no \"that\" or there is no \"this\", fundamentally speaking. The very reference point also needs another reference point to confirm itself, so therefore it is futile to have a reference point at all. So therefore the sense of reference point is in itself is useless, senseless, and cuts through altogether that building collage of interrelated situations, which is ego of dharma.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=786.0,835.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the case of the second type of ego, of that ego of individuality is concerned, that prajna or the transcendental knowledge also cuts individuality as well. Because you have cut the reference point as well as that to be referred, it also cuts. Because having already overcome the reference point, or the relativity situation, then there's no ground. But at the same time there could be a negation of the relative-- law of relativity. Could be regarded as ground, but that also cuts away as well, because that in itself is a reference point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=835.0,890.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in other word, any subtlety of state of mind which makes slightest move, slightest attempt to justify itself because-- the meaning of existence of ego is justified because even if there is idea of nonexistence of ego is regarded as solid ground to dwell on, at that point is also be cut through. Because that is also reference point, that is also interrelated situation at the same time. So from that point of view, the transcendental knowledge or prajnaparamita is referred as that of greatest mantra, greatest spell, incantation, because it does not allow even subtleties of the reference point of view. It cuts right through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=890.0,950.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All those process of understanding or achieving that knowledge is partly using in some sense revolutionary mind, revolutionary attitude, because it is free from comparison, or free from repetition. The reason why I refer to it as free from repetition, or comparison, is that we begin to lose the sense of doing the same thing again and again, on the basis of the first experience of knowledge. We can't do the same thing again on the basis of the first experience of knowledge -- we are not doing the same thing, at all. Because reason why when we referred as trying to do the same thing, which means do something like that, which automatically means you are doing different things, something like the other one, which means automatically split -- automatically it's a reference point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=950.0,1033.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you can't use the security of maintaining your understanding from that sense at all. It's a direct attitude of complete revolution. Like supposing we say that-- we could say that if the idea of revolution is based on framework of society, then you're not really presenting the true revolution because you have become conservative. Your logic of revolution is based on the framework of reference of what's been happening in society, so you become conservative. And from that sense, in the true revolution is that which does not depend on confirmations of existing structure of anything at all, but something completely original, something completely unoriginated in some sense. That even the viewer is being questioned, rather than what you perceived. So that prajnaparamita or transcendental knowledge is, from that sense, we could say, transcendental paranoia, in some sense. That it is paranoia by *paranoia-er* itself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=1033.0,1123.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So there's no ground to dwell on anything at all, none whatsoever. That which is feared about, that which fear to be paranoid, that \"I'm paranoid about this and this and this,\" that's not true paranoia from the sense of prajnaparamita's point of view. You still have ground, you are still dwelling on some kind of nest, from that sense. But when you begin to paranoid by the paranoia-- the instigator of the paranoia itself, then the sword of Manjushri begin to exist from that sense, because it cuts any reference point of view at all. You are absolutely paranoid. That there is no room to be paranoid. Whole ground is blown. It's complete, hundred-percent or two-hundred-percent boycotting the strategy of ego from that sense. But that is still regarded as game, or still strategy, from that sense, because it is transcendental knowledge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=1123.0,1196.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There more thing to say about the idea of shunyata and the idea of \"jnana\", \"wisdom\", opposed to knowledge, but probably we should discuss that in the coming talks and the discussion, so on. And perhaps we should stop that point, and we could have discussions on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=1196.0,1221.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: For the most part I gather-- I understand your definition of prajna as the negative way -- you are saying what it destroys. And positively, is it could be-- is the experience of prajna something indescribable, [INAUDIBLE] is like the experience of being or experience of oneness with all that is-- all that you are aware of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose we could say it is experience of precision. That it is so precise that every situation comes up from instigator from the what being received by the instigation, the questions. So it's complete precision, highest form of intellect, which does not allow any room to manipulate, so it's fundamentally healthy, fundamentally invincible from that sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut it seems that by using the negative languages, have a tremendous advantage which you find in the Buddhist literatures a great deal, that most of the dialogues or discourses in the scriptures always a negative situation, negative inclined -- that \"this is not, this is not, that is not, that is not.\" Always rejecting, constantly. That seem to be the nature of the style of presenting, so that the idea is that having rejected everything, every ground, to get confused, that rejection itself is the act of ultimate positive thinking. Whereas if you're trying to build something, you're sort of trying to set up some kind of target, and you're making yourself vulnerable. That you are building up something, so then someone says, \"That may be so, but if this is not that, then what happens?\" So it becomes shaky ground, from that sense. So the idea of using negative language has a tremendous advantage. And it is not fundamentally negative, it's the absolute positive thinking. That \"if that is-- this is not that, that is not this.\" So therefore what is there is that whole basic, solid thing. Because negative situation been already dealt with, so that you can't be attacked from any other directions at all. And in this case prajna is also that precision and sharpness which dealt with already negative situations, so becomes invincible, sharp sword.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah, what bothered me or what raised the question is in [D.T] Suzuki  in the MYSTICISM CHRISTIAN AND BUDDHIST he tended to emphasize the positive, referring to experience of being, experience of what is. As if the quality of perception, the quality of awareness of whatever the object of awareness was, was radically changed. That it was, you know, substantially different than what it had been [INAUDIBLE]. And I was just trying to get-- the idea of just-- [INAUDIBLE] describing a little what the new experience would be compared to the old one was.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean it is a question of being, but at the same time that that basic situation of being had to be invincible, otherwise you can't be, because you be distracted by something else. Your basic quality is being distracted, or seduced, or whatever.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn other word the-- well you see the one of the basic important point is that the transcendental knowledge experience is not dwelling on something, it's not indulging on the transcendental knowledge, but constantly being active, constantly applying itself every directions, simultaneously. So that's nature of being. So that on the whole the spiritual path from Buddhist point of view is therefore not regarded as devoid of activity, but you gain further energy, and energy is synonym for being, from that sense, from Buddhist point of view. Because it is been said as the knowledge and compassion are interdependent, like fish and water. So it's constantly active, constantly dealing with some situations. It's very extroverted kind of approach. And it has nothing to-- no relationship with drawing yourself away from the world at all, but it is dealing with the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=1221.0,1574.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE] conflicting emotions and primitive beliefs about reality [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, seems that we could say that conflicting emotions relate with that of the ego of dharma, and primitive belief about reality is that of ego of individuality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE] emotions relates with the ego [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, because you have to constantly maintain yourself, you constantly have to justify all the time, that conflicting emotions become very powerful and definite thing. In other word there is some kind of sense of delight having emotions, that you can at least relate with something. It's another way of solving the problem of loneliness, or solving the problem of desolation of losing grip, that one tend to put out primitive sense of emotions. But, I mean, conflicting sense is illogical, in other word, conflicting means illogical, but nevertheless we do not particularly think terms of how to be logically psychologically. But one just put out all kinds of attempt to maintain itself. And that is in itself the-- in other word we could say the conflicting emotions are the energies which try to achieve the ego of dharma.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=1574.0,1718.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Could you explain meditation? You start with the fringe, in other words [INAUDIBLE] consciousness is [INAUDIBLE], which initial meditation practice creates chaos in the fringe. But here you seem to be saying that the ego of individuality is much more sort of sophisticated, at least it seems to me like you're saying that it's much more central than the ego [INAUDIBLE], the ego of dharma. Is that what you're saying? In other words you said the other one, the ego of individuality, is much more sort of central to the whole thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which one's more central?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Would you say that the ego of individuality is more central than the ego of dharma, or would you say the opposite?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think ego of individuality is more powerful and more subtle, because ego of individuality has the element of spiritual materialism in it, of trying to gain something, trying to put yourself into certain categories, like primitive ideas of reality, about reality. Precisely the reality's been distorted by certain beliefs that the reality is the-- the only reality there is is the attainment of egohood. That to get some definite, positive reinforcement so that you can maintain yourself without giving yourself up.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What meditation practices deal with that? [INAUDIBLE] the dharma [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's extension of mahavipashyana which extend to shunyata, quite more likely that of shunyata. Which actually then leaves no room to move about at all, none whatsoever. The whole solid ground is already completely destroyed. So that's the last effort or last impetus of transcendental knowledge is to destroy the last hold.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=1718.0,1858.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: The paranoia that you speak of, would that correspond to a real cause of complete loss of ego? You know, just that the ego being the seat of everything, and that kind of disappearing, therefore nothing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there seem to be some subtle definitions in terms of paranoia -- is that your own intellect begin to transcend your own intellect, because you be so thorough, constantly, trying to reach all-- even the thinker. So thinker begin to desert yourself. That's the idea of absolute paranoia. And we could say that sense it is the loss of ego. I mean the ego is based on-- it doesn't go as far as that. Ego doesn't want to desert thinker, but ego wants to improve thinker, up to the level of function, but of course ego wants to correct the faults of the thinker, it doesn't want to go beyond that. So, we could say that the ultimate paranoia, in this case, is the sense of \"anatta\", or \"egolessness\", as being known to Buddhist tradition.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is that like being the-- in the \"chonyi\"-- the bardo [INAUDIBLE] when, you know, you have the first [INAUDIBLE], subject to the images and loses his ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean that's the more experiential, impulsive kind of experience rather than logical one. This case when we're trying to relate with the prajnaparamita, or the transcendental knowledge, in this case it is more of using the highest form of intellect to destroy the intellect of itself. Which is slightly different, it's more analytical, highest way of using the analogy. And the-- in the case of chonyi bardo or that kind of situation, it is more of result of natural evolution thing comes out of starting the practice of meditation, a more intuitive one. But we could say in some sense that they both meet, but different paths, so to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=1858.0,2021.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I'm trying to grasp the idea of having nothing to cling to, or have nothing solid left to cling to. It's actually a pretty scary idea, that it's-- when I think about it, that-- and at a certain time that's pretty scary experiences in meditation as a consequence. And how does one-- and how does one deal with this fear?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How does what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: How do you deal with this fear?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see that that's the whole point, from beginning to the end. It's not a question of *dealing* with it. When we talk about dealing, it automatically has that-- like you are dealing with a naughty child, you are dealing with a juvenile delinquency. That there's already problematic situations already, so we're trying to reform them. So sense of dealing with something is the-- has sense of reformation, of rehabilitation idea. So that idea of itself, the dealing with something, is to begin with have to go. That you are not really dealing as-- with a situation, as it's a problematic situation, but it is path.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut once we begin to accept as being part of the path, then sense of dealing, or sense of challenge, or sense of one situation related with another one does not apply anymore at all. Like when you talk to your friends, relate with your friends, if you're a close associate with that per-- particular person, you don't deal with that person, you just relate with that person, which is quite different. So it's a question of relating with it, rather than regarding as a problematic situation, and that opens tremendous possibilities. That seem to be the attitude rather than style. As far as the styles goes, that you don't have a style. But once you aba-- you are giving style, you are still dealing with it. So it seem that one have to just leap into the situation of relating with it rather than dealing with it. So, from that sense there's no style at all, none whatsoever, or technique. And nobody's going to present to you as how to con that particular sense, how to use that up, or how to overcome that, but how to relate with it. So as far as the relating is concerned, it is some sense of generosity, in which that you begin to accept you're not begin to *deal* with it, but you begin to work with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=2021.0,2212.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I've heard it said that prajna is part of skillful means. I wonder how to explore that in relationships with others.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that once you cut any kind of relative notion of logic, from that sense, that you are cutting the possibilities of strategy. Strategy have to be based on concept, or premeditated situations or something. And once you don't have that kind of strategy or policy, so to speak, then in itself it becomes skillful means, because then you are dealing strictly, directly as things as they are. Simply, precisely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: So is there any difference related to prajna [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we could say that prajna is the activator, or the instigator of the skillful means. So saying the same thing in some sense. That prajna is the spearhead or the sword, and the product of that sword is to cut through. The cutting through is the skillful means and the sharp blade is the prajna.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=2212.0,2316.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: How is it that prajnaparamita is called-- comes to be called the mother of all buddhas?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the whole idea is that you cannot have jnana or wisdom without prajna to prepare its path. So, in other word, we could say that the jnana is like the child, and prajna is like the mother. Product of-- jnana is product of prajna. So it's interdependent in that sense, because if you have a dualistic notion of concepts, you cannot even have a glimpse of awake. Because reason why you fall asleep is because of concepts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=2316.0,2408.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Did you say that a part of the ego will-- with this higher intellect prajna, a part of ego will go on inside when this occurs, or is it somewhere else? I don't know, I didn't get that clearly. Will it recognize-- you said something about the ego wants to be in line with the high intellect, with the developed intellect, does it go along with this higher form or-- ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see the whole idea of experience of prajna is not particular strategy to destroy ego. But prajna is born out of ego, in some sense. It's like a relationship between fuel and fire, and it eats up automatically, it uses itself up. So it's more exposure to prajna, that is there's less individualities involved, so that, sort of, work side-by-side, from that sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: So part of it seems to disappear and part of it goes the other way, or just sort of cancels each other out-- itself out. So it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there will be glimpse of experience, yeah. Sometime you have a glimpse of prajna, sometime you have a glimpse of ego, and depends on the openness that cancels itself, each other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=2408.0,2517.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Are there are also emotions [INAUDIBLE] the ego [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Emotions? SPEAKER8: You said the ego of the dharma was the emotions trying to relate--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm, mhmm...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --to the desolation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, in the broader sense, that any form of ego is always emotions, from that sense, because it has the some sense of preservation, and some sense of hope and fear, so we could say from the broader sense there is-- ego is emotions, from that sense. But when we talk about ego of dharma, it's the primitive ego, like the conflicting emotions. It's-- we are talking about the different level of operation, how blunt and how subtle emotions. So the ego of individuality is subtle emotions, whereas ego of dharma is crude emotions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=2517.0,2589.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85016/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We might start the group discussion. Separate rooms. We have customary practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rooms are 177, 125, and [INAUDIBLE]. Rooms are 177, 125, and [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=2589.0,2608.5515"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85017","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720420VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85017/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,\nUniversity of Colorado","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=0.73,5.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85017/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Classes 1972,\nheld in Boulder, Colorado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=5.9,9.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85017/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is class number nine,\nPrajna, held April 20th, 1972.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=9.81,16.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85017/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is a CTI custom\nremaster made September 2024.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=16.7,22.47"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85017/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: The Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,\nspeaking to his class,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=22.47,27.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85017/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"University of Colorado,\n20 April 1972.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=27.39,33.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85017/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In the last talk\nwe had,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=35.29,41.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85017/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there seem to be a--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=50.55,52.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85017/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there was a misunderstanding\nof two topics,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=52.44,63.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85017/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"subjects,\nin terms of order.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=63.92,68.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85017/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That we had\nkaruna bhavana first,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=68.41,74.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85017/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and we haven't discussed\nthe prajna,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=74.11,82.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85017/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is way of using\nthe intellect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=82.76,85.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85017/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, thought today\nwe could discuss the prajna.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=85.12,93.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85017/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Prajna from this point\nof mahayana's approach 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--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=126.61,134.79"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85017/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that we could say prajna\nis the product\nof mahavipashyana experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=141.3,148.73"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85017/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And \"prajna\" means\n\"complete knowledge\", 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knowledge\",\n\"cognition.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=174.95,182.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85017/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And \"rap\" means\nthe \"highest one\"\nor the \"best one.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555#t=182.77,189.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161706/file/293555/transcript/85017/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So prajna, or sherap,\nin this case is 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