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Beginning is understanding confusion or ignorance, how they develop out of ego. Ego from Buddhist point of view is constantly trying to maintain ourselves. Ignorance is broken down into three traditional categories: basic ignorance is not knowing who and what we are; second ignorance is solidifying that bewilderment; third is grasping onto ideas of good, bad, indifferent. Introduces concept of \"spiritual materialism\", how even looking to spirituality as way of freeing ourselves from confusion only reinforces it. True spirituality not aimed at \"freedom\", but acknowledging and understanding confusion as the way to see through it. In Q\u0026amp;A, gives uncompromising description of spiritual and psychological materialism as bringing \"decay\", \"death.\" Encourages students to be critical, examine, not just accept what they hear as \"words of wisdom.\"\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMar 03 2020 to Dec 29 2021 Transcribing: Sophie Perks Checking: Leandra Ziegler Final Proof: Ella Milligan Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA detailed talk about the relationship between confusion and enlightenment, how studying both is key. Beginning is understanding confusion or ignorance, how they develop out of ego. Ego from Buddhist point of view is constantly trying to maintain ourselves. Ignorance is broken down into three traditional categories: basic ignorance is not knowing who and what we are; second ignorance is solidifying that bewilderment; third is grasping onto ideas of good, bad, indifferent. Introduces concept of \"spiritual materialism\", how even looking to spirituality as way of freeing ourselves from confusion only reinforces it. True spirituality not aimed at \"freedom\", but acknowledging and understanding confusion as the way to see through it. In Q\u0026amp;A, gives uncompromising description of spiritual and psychological materialism as bringing \"decay\", \"death.\" Encourages students to be critical, examine, not just accept what they hear as \"words of wisdom.\"\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/561/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759346276","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20251001-2006876-pybyor.mpga"]},"duration":2356.0098,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/561/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759346276","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/293/561/original/open-uri20251001-2006876-pybyor.mpga?1759343452","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2356.0098,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730208VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19730208VCTR1 - University of Colorado - Boulder - Spring 1973 - Class 2]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, University of Colorado classes 1973, held in Boulder Colorado at the University of Colorado. This is class number two, The Psychology of Ego, held February 8th, 1973. This is an ARP digital remaster made October, 2006.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: The following recording is from Chogyam Trungpa's class on Tibetan Buddhism, held February 8th, 1973, at the University of Colorado. The topic is the Buddhist Approach to the Psychology of Ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=0.0,38.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: LECTURE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What we have decided-- discussed last week on the basic acceptance of the two polarities of confusion and understanding in connection with the Buddhist approach of spirituality. There's something more than that, in some sense, that how come there's acceptance of two polarities, acceptance of polarities in connected with basic intelligence. And the extreme confusion and extreme enlightenment are bound by its complementary laws, and studying the enlightenment approach requires also studying of the other complementary aspect which is \"samsara\" or \"ignorance,\" which seems to play very important part. So in other word we could quite safely say that if confusion is occurred that is also subject to realization, or realization is occurred that is also subject to confusion. So we can't safely say that realization of spirituality is purely based on no relationship with the confusion at all. Freedom is based on imprisonment, otherwise there's no understanding of freedom if there's no such thing as a prison-- imprisonment as such at all. So confusion from this point is one of the basic point of reference to wisdom that has developed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=38.0,214.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What we studying here is we are working on the Buddhist approach of psychology. And that approach talks about, to begin with, not talk about reality in sense of enlightenment, but we should talk about reality from the point of view of confusion. So tonight's discussion particularly involved with Buddhist approach to psychology of ego. \"Ego\" is a term that used in all kinds of contexts, such as Freudian style, Jungian style, or existential style of all kinds. But from this point of view of ego, as Buddhist way of looking it, the subject is concerned, ego is \"that which trying to maintain itself\". Because it doesn't know what should be maintained, therefore there's more indulgency involved. That's definition of ego, is life strength of ego is based on the maintenance, maintaining itself constantly, without particularly any intelligent purpose to maintain itself, at all, but vague reference to trying to survive our existence. And that particular general pattern of ego is referred as \"ignorance\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=214.0,337.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we could say that we have developed three types of ignorance. The basic general ground of ignorance-- let me draw a diagram. [writes on chalkboard] Basic ignorance, which is trying to maintain itself, not knowing exactly what to maintain because the point of reference also subject to question at the same time. We do not know who we are, what we are, exactly, and there's a general upheaval. Some kind of mystery involved. The sense of unreal as to who we are, how we function ourselves, basically, absolute uncertain. That only the vibrations of the unknown is the only certainties there is. Which it doesn't say anything very much. It doesn't help us. And that's what we call \"basic ignorance\" -- or you could call \"ignorant A\". [Laughs; laughter] That purpose of existence is trying to maintain ourselves in some way. But at the same time what should be maintained is uncertain -- fundamental bewilderment. That's the basic ignorance. Which is extremely solid in some sense. That \"I would like to do what I would like to do. Why? Don't ask me questions. Because still, I want to what I like to do.\" So there's no room for questions. You are just being very clumsy and stubborn. Basic stubbornness of trying to exist. But even that point, existence not being exposed. The notion of existence not being exposed at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=337.0,494.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And from that chain reaction that some other project begin to develop. And that project is try to find some kind of a lead way [sic: leeway?], or some kind of exit as to we could step out of that some kind of bewilderment of not knowing who we are, what we are. Maybe we could make more emphasis of not knowingness of it. So we begin to step out of that realm and create another loop. Is not certain who we are, what we are, but uncertainty is become some solid ground. Because there's uncertainty therefore something to work through, something to work with. Which is \"ignorant B\" [laughs; writing on chalkboard] had developed because A didn't exist -- or seemingly exist. Purely trying to maintain ourselves, purely trying to exist, and therefore very clever mind begin to produce itself. Is in order to maintain ourself, we should struggle for it, we should work for it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=494.0,598.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the Buddhist terminology that ignorant A is referred as that of self-existence ignorance. It's like amoeba: has no partnership to produce further chemicals, but exist by itself. Then amoeba begin to produce birth by relating with itself; produces an egg, which is ignorant B. And having ignorant-- produce ignorant B, then the ignorant C begin to become the father of the fourth person. That amoeba has produced an egg and produced a chemical situation in which that that chemical could inject its seeds into the original amoeba. So you have ignorant A is a basic confusion which produces the incentive or the sense of lost-ness be put into the geography, put into the sense of alarm. That you feel terrified at the beginning then you decide to get alarmed about that. Then having decided to get alarmed about that then you get really terrified, which is C. Is in which that situation involves is begin to grasp, begin to cling onto all kinds of situations of life, such as sense perceptions and emotions of all kinds of things begin to develop from that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=598.0,727.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And to begin with one begin to develop the feeling or sense perceptions in terms of feeling which are divided into all kinds of categories. C begin to turn into then categories -- into good, bad, and medium categories. Having developed third technique, in which you can relate with alarm, then you turn into categorizing what kind of threat that you're involved. Which is A. Which is one, two, three, or which is good, bad, and medium. Good being something pleasurable, entertaining, and bad being something which is threatening, and medium being something is uncertain. So one's feeling begin to develop. As your feeling begin to develop, and from that point of view, then we begin to involve ourselves into our sense of categorizing those feelings, some kind of perception. Perception to relate those feelings as a part of relationship. In other word trying to labelize them in some sense. Trying to acknowledge their existence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=727.0,905.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that whole thing what we're discussing is that we could develop our-- having developed these three-fold ignorance, as such, then we could develop all kinds of strategies of trying to approach -- either from the emotions, or that of the intellectual, or that of sense perceptions, or philosophical concept, or whatever we like, that we could develop all kinds of ways. But all the time, reason why this is spiral situation, is that there's no one self-contained situation from the point of view of ignorance's central point. But they are constantly trying to get out of one's own imprisonment, by trying to create a further web, further imprisonment. That seem to be the basic thing. And while some of these imprisonment of going out and out, again and again, would also include not only trying to free oneself of worldly existence, such as self-indulgency or materialistic mentality, as such alone at all, but also that includes spirituality, spiritual search, to free oneself to-- from the bondage. Trying to maintain its self-existing ego or ignorance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=905.0,998.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So as far as the Buddhist approach of ego is concerned, that it is not regarded as respectable, sane approach or good citizenship. But from Buddhist approach of ego is concerned, it's a neurotic move, which yearning or creating towards goodness or healthiness so that we can maintain ourselves constantly, as much as we can. That seem to be the basic approach of ego. So the tendency towards-- attitude towards ego from Buddhist point of view is concerned, that the ego's approach can be only intimidated or freed that neurosis, is some kind of approach from-- coming from outside. That some area closes in. Some kind of area comes-- some new energy comes from the outer space to create the-- or inner space, from that matter, it's a three-dimensional space, in which that the further extension cannot go along all the time. That that kind of chemist being intimidated, as well as the space does exist in the middle, that energy that moves out and outward is also depend on some kind of space. And that space also is part of the divine plot, or whatever you like to call it, to intimidate its further growth, further manure. [Laughs]. So the freeing from ego, from that point of view is concerned, it's all over. That the sense of freedom gives also sense of confusion at the same time because allows itself go out, explore more, at the same time the sense of freedom limits its sense of growth at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=998.0,1144.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it's-- I suppose in discussing and studying the idea of freedom, from the basic sense, that when we talk about freedom, usually we talk about imprisonment -- believe it or not. [Laughs] We would like to free from some thing, and we would like to make our occupation, our home, into the freedom; free from imprisonment is making a nest into the freedom. It’s same kind of approach as that we would like to get out of imprisonment of our father and mother and home, claustrophobic situation, and we go out and get married. And we create a *new* imprisonment, by being married. Which I'm not particularly against it in the socialistic, social situations, but as analogy, that seem to be tendency that we tend to do it, constantly. We wanted to free ourselves, and the only way to do that is make-- create new situation so that we are inspired to free ourselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=1144.0,1234.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that's the basic problem that we have here is, I would like to introduce this new concept of \"spiritual materialism\" into this particular area. Which also comes along with the Buddhist approach to psychology, is that we would like to free ourselves from confused, mundane pain in ordinary situations, we would like to free ourselves from that, and only measure that we have is try to create new home. Popular concept that developed here, particularly in America, is that we leave city and a lot of people go out into the countryside, all kinds of communes, all kinds of ashrams, monasteries, and all kinds of teepees, [laughter] all kinds of scenes. That we feel that's the only thing. And renouncing from another society and getting into another society is the act of freedom. We could commit ourselves into a particular hierarchical setup of becoming a member of enlightenment league. [Laughter] The membership purely doesn't seem to help, particularly at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=1234.0,1335.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That basic idea of spiritual materialism from this point of view is, in order to trying to get out of this circle that we discussed, if you get into another domestic situation of spiritual comfort of some kind, then we are constantly recreating a super samsara, or super confusion. It's not the confusion of the ordinary word but is spiritual confusion, which seems to have further more subtle and much more powerful grip on us -- because we have faith in them. Our faith is not a scientific faith anymore. Our faith is purely hope that, \"What I'm getting into will be save me-- able to save me.\" So some kind of blind faith. Not being able to have scientific faith or critical attitude towards the teachings or situation what was presented to us, so that's subject to further ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=1335.0,1416.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You might get into human potential movement of this country of all kinds, studying psychology, vibrations, esoteric symbolism; or you could get into that of solid, seemingly solid, traditional practices of all kinds, that of Hinduism, that of Zen, that of Tibetan Buddhism, whatever. But it seems that interesting point of scientifically, if you look at is-- is that as we go out and trying to get out more, that we are getting into another world. We are begin to split this growth, which is extremely interesting source of learning, and we are creating new angle, another one -- the spiritual imprisonment. So consequently, that what's happens usually is that when you're tired of this you go back to world, you get back here; when you're tired of *this* then you come back here! [Laughter] You're creating a picture of ant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=1416.0,1521.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That seem to be one of the basic, fundamental approaches that what spirituality is, as we discussed last week, is that to understand whether spirituality is purely geared for freedom or whether spirituality is bringing out all the confusions so that we could work out -- is a big question. And from this point of view, as Buddhist approach is concerned, is that spirituality not getting out of confusion or abandon your confusion as such, is to acknowledge the true existing psychological materialism and the spiritual materialism are both are samsaric nature. Samsara: \"sara\" means \"ocean\"; \"sam\" means \"twirling around\". So that we both-- we are involved whether we try to get out of this, which create getting into this, constantly. So there should be some way of boycotting both psychological materialism and spiritual materialism, at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=1521.0,1609.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Probably we have to discuss next time, when we talk about karma and rebirth on the fifteenth February. That we could discuss in detail the getting out of karmic situation that you have created, how to get out of that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo perhaps we should stop this point here. [Laughs] Could we have questions on that point?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=1609.0,1647.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You mentioned to get out of the web, the web spinning thing, you have to have a force from outer space, from outside. What is this force?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's-- we could say outer space in the sense that it is all over, rather than outer space is outside of your homeland.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: The environment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it's kind of environment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=1647.0,1678.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: In what sense are those psychological, what sense are they materialism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose basically because it's materialistic approach because they both yearn towards pleasure and they don't want to experience pain; whether it's a spiritual pleasure or worldly pleasure, purely searching for that. Which has a sense of constant rotting process of fundamental death. Once you involve-- indulge in spiritual pleasure *or* materialistic pleasure that you begin to decay, and the pleasure begin to decay at the same time. So that fundamentally it's extremely helpless and powerful death. That you can't really get out of it or give birth, or energizing anything at all. Your energy is put into searching for pleasure, and pleasure begin to eat you in and you begin to eat pleasure out. So that mutual destruction. And we end up by being chicken soup. [Laughter] Which no one would like to drink. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=1678.0,1813.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is everything defined by its opposite, including the existence or nonexistence of ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I should think so, very much -- except when you can't work that way and your intellect begin to short circuit. Which is another approach. Which we haven't got to that yet. [Laughs] I think-- I mean anything is related with the journey and receiving, it's related with the opposite.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=1813.0,1849.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somebody was asking?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Can the effect of this external force tend to put you into another spiral, or get you out of the spiral -- either one? Or just have a general tendency to take you into one, or out of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: External?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: The external force or the environment.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh yeah, the environmental force. Well environmental force act as some point is chaos or the obstacle. Like the-- we have a question about spirituality or we will have question about the life -- that is the environmental energy. Which is very-- extremely scientific. That seem to become guidance. In other word we have a question but question becomes a potent question rather than purely looking for the answer. The question *feels* there is answer automatically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=1849.0,1925.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: How does this ego that you’re talking about here relate to last week when you talked about egoness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Egoless?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well egoless is the basic area, environment, where ego functions. That's what we were talking about last week, is the egoless is-- even ego is depend on its environment to function. The greenhouse itself. The plant is depend on its greenhouse.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Or isn't there a certain amount of egoness that you would just consume yourself and empty. Sort of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Egoless?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: --I mean something that exists. Ego*ness*.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I was talking last time ego*less*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Mhmm. I know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [Laughing] I know. But I can't-- I don't really understand that. The egoness or total egoness.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ego what? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I don't really understand a total lack of ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I see, a total lack of egoless. Total lack of ego, yeah. [Laughter] Well total lack of ego is without those spiral energies; purely self-contained background which doesn't have to acknowledge itself for its own existence. Well you are quite true that we can't imagine total egoless. Once we begin to imagine it, then we creating egohood. So that become like a-- we would like to attained the enlightened state, and we would like to celebrate with big party. [Laughter] Or, on the other hand, we would like to attend our funeral party. And we would like to witness people mourning for \"my death\", and telling them \"it's okay, [laughter] still here to comfort you,\" which couldn't happen. The intelligence which functions with the ego is a self-conscious one; intelligence which functions without ego is a total conscious one. So when we function in ordinary ways, we function purely from point of view of self-conscious way. We are not totally aware of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=1925.0,2119.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85028/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe we should close our talk and discussion tonight, and perhaps I should like to-- I should say something about the divide in discussion groups which plays an extremely important part. It's a situation that you could talk about the areas that haven't been covered by the-- this particular class, group class situation, and you could bring up all kinds of points. And also that we have a problem of size of the participant in this class, which has been one of the problems. Which I felt that I didn't want to exclude anybody who would like to take part in it. And that's one of the measures that if people are included already into this big class, that we might be able to divide them up into several groups and look into more personally. Presumably each class will consist of something like twenty-five people, rather than here we have over a hundred people.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd one-- the other point is that some of my students who've been studying with me might be a good source of communication. And they have developed their way of looking at their own logic of some kind, some point. Of course, you have to excuse us being use-- they using some kind of basic terminologies and slogans, so to speak, has been developed. That's part of the problem of having develop a-- or having involved within own particular trip. Such as this has been Buddhist trip. And each time, that when you're involved with any kind of trips, they tend to bring out their shadows of idioms, trying to bring up. But I hope you will proceed through them, and hope that your studying this particular class would develop able to transcend Buddhism, or any religion, and able to work in the general approach in spirituality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo that approach is here, is that not designed to convince you that a Buddhist way is the only way, or any other way is the only way, but develop a critical attitude to any kind of spiritual trips laid on you. [Laughter; laughs] That seem to be the general approach. So hopefully that you could come out with any critical attitude towards what I had to say, or what the discussion group had to say. So in for future reference please be critical or sharp, as much as you can. Which is the best and you don't have to accept everything as word of wisdom. Since word of wisdom -- wisdom is depend on ignorance, so you could speak on-- and on behalf of the ignorance. [Laughter] Which is speak on part of word of wisdom at the same time. [Laughs] So, [laughter] that's it.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe should divide into our groups now. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=2119.0,2356.0098"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85029","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730208VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85029/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche, University","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=0.47,4.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85029/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of Colorado classes 1973,\nheld in Boulder Colorado\nat the University of Colorado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=4.92,11.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85029/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is class number two,\nThe Psychology of Ego,\nheld February 8th, 1973.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=11.28,17.78"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85029/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital remaster\nmade October, 2006.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=17.78,23.07"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85029/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: The\nfollowing 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Colorado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=27.75,32.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85029/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The topic is\nthe Buddhist Approach\nto the Psychology of Ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=32.81,38.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85029/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What we 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spiral,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=1851.67,1856.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85029/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or get you out of the spiral --\neither one?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=1856.96,1859.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85029/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Or just have a general tendency\nto take you into one,\nor out 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But I can't--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=1976.08,1981.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85029/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't really understand that.\nThe egoness or total egoness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561#t=1981.9,1988.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161712/file/293561/transcript/85029/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ego 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