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Discusses tendency of wanting guru or teacher to rescue us from pain, described as problem of duality. Establishes that working with duality is subject of seminar. Encourages questioning as to how one can be certain about the path, and the importance of doubt. Surrendering as important step, giving up credentials as part of devotion. In Q\u0026amp;A, importance of being exposed, how humbleness is being willing to show one’s embarrassing parts. Discusses working with pain. In concluding remarks, encourages participants to interact with community members, describes accomplishments of community members in developing American Buddhism, and encourages everyone to take part in the all-day sitting.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Myth of Freedom","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 03"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: THE MYTH OF FREEDOM: Part 7: Devotion: Surrendering\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-myth-of-freedom-and-the-way-of-meditation.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 3 (in contained book THE MYTH OF FREEDOM)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-1863.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eFeb 22 2020 to Feb 13 2021 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Mary Beth Kean Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAn introduction to subject of devotion, as first dispelling idea that one is going to be saved by external agent. Discusses tendency of wanting guru or teacher to rescue us from pain, described as problem of duality. Establishes that working with duality is subject of seminar. Encourages questioning as to how one can be certain about the path, and the importance of doubt. Surrendering as important step, giving up credentials as part of devotion. In Q\u0026amp;A, importance of being exposed, how humbleness is being willing to show one\u0026rsquo;s embarrassing parts. Discusses working with pain. In concluding remarks, encourages participants to interact with community members, describes accomplishments of community members in developing American Buddhism, and encourages everyone to take part in the all-day sitting.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260128-3797118-742rx0.mpga"]},"duration":3279.151,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/301/071/original/open-uri20260128-3797118-742rx0.mpga?1769642306","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3279.151,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730505VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19730505VCTR1 - Public Seminar - 1973 - Boulder - Devotional Buddhism of Tibet - Talk 1]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Devotional Buddhism of Tibet, held in Boulder, Colorado. This is talk number one, May 5th, 1973. This is an ARP digital remaster made December 2006.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This is Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche in Boulder, Colorado at the Devotional Buddhism seminar, 1973. The following is lecture one, May 5th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=0.0,39.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like to welcome everyone here take part in this particular seminar. I feel that this particular seminar has something somewhat, you might say, new or further way of looking at spirituality. And the very notion of spirituality is based on an idea of those who possess spiritual understanding, spiritual insight. And those who don't could learn something from those who does. [Laughter] I mean that's very simple semantic. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=39.0,128.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it turns out to be slightly different than we expected -- somewhat. And particularly into the area of spirituality, that if we are working towards transcending ego, then whole thing becomes slightly different. It is different because, that the sense of that you get help from somebody else to advance in the path, is questionable. That you want to be helped, that you want to be saved. Saved from what? Obviously you want to be saved from pain: \"My misery, my problems.\" \"I would like to be saved so that I could be happy. I could feel glorious, fantastic, good, creative,\" so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=128.0,214.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have a problem there. We actually do. [Laughs] Big problem. If we want to be saved, then we are asking for transplantation of some kind. That, \"Maybe my heart could be transplanted by the heart of the great wisdom. My head could be changed. At least the brain could be operated.\" There is immediate problem, of duality. Duality in the sense of not particularly just being aware of the two situations happening simultaneously, \"me\" and \"the other\" alone, but there is a problem of emotional duality, which is that, \"I experience. What I experience is not so good. I would like to find something better, something good in me.\" Which has nothing to do with the philosophical school called duality, or the transcending duality rather.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=214.0,339.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the same time, teacher and student relationships *are* dualistic situation. But it is not regarded as particularly dualistic fixation, in terms of that, \"I want to enrich my ego,\" or \"I want to get some new informations to my system so that I could handle myself better,\" so to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=339.0,381.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This seminar concerned with how to handle problem of duality; \"me\" as individual person, the guru as savior. \"Is it possible that guru as the external person who is enlightened, supposedly, could help me?\" And if the guru could help *you*, then that means you are asking, you are working towards, inviting new foreign element in your system. So conclusion is that guru cannot help you at all. But then another problem is that if that is the case, then how come, how it possible that certain gurus *can* help you, help us, along the path? Is there-- isn't there a problem of logic, that foreign element cannot cure you, but at the same time that you are dependent on the foreign element, outsider, another human being? That seem to the problem here. That's the biggest problem that we have saw, or at least we should touch that area, in the course of this seminar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=381.0,483.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would like to relate the whole thing in three categories, as our seminar develops. We seem to have a fair amount of time to discuss the whole thing. Three stages: the stages of hinayana, and the stages of mahayana, and the stages of vajrayana. Different attitudes, different approaches, so to speak. How to relate with that external phenomena, who taught, who teaches. Christ, Buddha, Mohammed, Krishna, are foreign elements. We know-- we never met them. We know nothing of them, except we read about them. And supposedly they hand down their experience of spirituality, which supposedly that we are able to make a relationship with. And we able to relate-- integrate with our own existence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=483.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you look at it from that angle, whole thing is a wild guess. Somebody found 200 years ago-- somebody is 2,500 years ago had made discovery, and he hand down his myth, his ideas. Is it possible that we could actually relate with such thing? Although they are clergies and priests and monks and teachers and gurus, who proclaim that they can handle-- they have the direct message from the lineage, but how it is possible? Is it true, actually? We are uncertain as to who's fooling who. That we have no ideas of the-- on the process of lineage journey, that somebody could have twisted, somebody could have fucked it up. And the whole message could be wrong. How do we know that, that what we are getting is pure milk, pure, honey, pure elixir of life. How do we know? That's the question [laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=570.0,646.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The devotion in the three yana principle -- how that could happen? How do we know that it is true actually? The society changes, by the process of society is changing, the myth get altered all the time. The folktales become more clever. Each generation the folktale teller add new elements, to suit its own environment. So how do we know that what we are doing is actually right, or in fact, *trustworthy*? How do we know that not we are not wasting our time here? The fact seem to be is that we do know nothing of those, because we have never witnessed such situations at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=646.0,723.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That maybe said is the starting point. We never saw Christ, Buddha, Mohammed, Krishna. We never met any of those supposedly fantastic people, glorious people, fully enlightened people. We never saw them. And moreover, that we never witnessed the transformation that they handed down to the lineage. We never saw them -- we been *told*. It's big problem, gigantic problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=723.0,815.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We might think that what we are doing here, and paying sum of money, which represents our energy, and listening to this particular talk, or this particular-- attending this particular seminar, and how do we know this might be gigantic hoax? This could be re-living the past, rather than actually what's happening actually. We have *no* idea of it, no insurance. Those days there's no insurance policies. Still we don't have insurance policy in spirituality. We are underdeveloped country. [Laughter; laughs] We are uncertain, absolutely uncertain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=815.0,882.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I prefer the beginning of this seminar on devotion and surrendering, before we discuss the things, I would like to raise doubts in your minds, as much as possible. Without doubt, devotion cannot be born, so let's look into more doubt -- doubting situation. Which is fantastically *rich* and *real*, as we are concerned, of people being here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=882.0,949.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Some point, the doubt become insignificant. Doubt to external situation becomes insignificant. You might ask, \"Who's conning who?\" We come to the conclusion, that you are conning yourself. Mind boggles. Who's conning who? Who's being conmanship? What's going on this world? If *you* didn't give into this conmanship, so called spiritual search, that you wouldn't get conned by anybody. And in fact that you are conning yourselves, or we are conning ourselves. We develop a formula, which is supposedly safe and sound, good idea, and we get into it, therefore we are conning ourselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=949.0,1070.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Buddha con himself; he won enlightenment. Could we do the same thing, by conning ourselves in enlightenment? Impossible. Because Buddha conned himself already, so if we try to do it we are repeating the whole thing all over again. We are copying. At this point, the very idea of copyright becomes very important point. [Laughs] Should we con ourselves, pretending that we are already Buddha? You could, but where did you find that word \"Buddha\"? We might say that, \"I con myself being 'me',\" rather than saying, \"I am Buddha.\" Whole thing is very tricky, extremely tricky. [Laughs] Wow. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=1070.0,1201.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The idea of con man-ship is also the essence of idea for devotion at the same time. That you been told that a certain kind of flair, exotic-ness, involved with involving into the teaching-- teachings. That, \"Why don't you join us, come into our lineage? Our lineage won enlightenment successively. Without questioning, by one-by-one, all the people in the lineage have won the enlightenment. And now you-- we have the present holder of lineage, who also won enlightenment. So why don't you join the camp?\" I can't argue with that. On the one hand it's true. [Laughter] But on the other hand it's *shit*! [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=1201.0,1308.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Devotion, this case, means dedication. But dedication to what? That's the precisely the point. If you ask a spiritual friend, \"I'm supposed to be dedicated to your cause, which I love very much. I love you and your teachings, but where do I sign my name? [Laughter] Is there a dotted line that I could sign my name?\" And the spiritual friend has none, no dotted lines. You can't sign your name. You might find that that is-- doesn't feel so good, because you have no legal stand as to that you become legally, sanely, become part of that organization.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=1308.0,1400.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"If there are organizations, how come they don't have place at least to sign my name with the 'x' marks on it?\" Seem doesn't have. That's devotion; giving into the unefficiency [sic] of the red tape, giving into the unefficiency of transcending efficient administration, who even didn't consider making place for you to sign your name. Of course they have all the lists of things one should be doing, one shouldn't be doing. Or the meaning of how you-- if you get into it, that means so and so. There's all these sealers, practices, disciplines, moralities involved. But they don't have room for sign your name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=1400.0,1474.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That point, devotion begin to develop in the form of blind faith. \"If I fill out the questionnaires without signing my name, would I be safe?\" You're not going to be safe, or threatened. Just fill the forms. \"As far as this organization is concerned, we do not care what's your names. As long as you sign your-- as long as you filled your questionnaires, we don't not need your names-- do not need your names.\" At that point the commitment is more important than credential of putting your names down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=1474.0,1545.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You might feel extraordinarily disturbed, undermined. That, \"Wouldn't I get some form of credential, at least my name so on, so on, that when you send your mail back to us, do we know that, who did-- how we did we fill the forms?\" No. [Laughing] It's too bad. \"We even don't know your address, your telephone numbers. You just came there and you did it. [Laughs] You're a loose person, but at the same time you are committed, because we have the case histories of you, already your styles in you-- of you. But without your names.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=1545.0,1622.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's first starting point of devotion. Trusting a situation, in which that you don't need require your I.D. cards or your names. That if you have I.D. cards or your names, you're going to get some *credentials* of person called \"Jonathan Eric,\" person called \"David Smith.\" [Laughs] \"Signed this particular document, in committing himself into-- involving himself into personal discipline, going to become part of the whole scene.\" And a part of a certain commitment of that, \"I, so and so by name, going to be true believer, speaking your language, believing your textbooks, studying according to what you are prescribed me. Ten days of retreat, three days retreat, four days retreat. Taking part in nyinthuns or whatever.\" It's endless. But for the very reason that there's no room for such credential situation anymore at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=1622.0,1730.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The first starting point in this case of devotional practice is that there is no room for credits, acknowledgment. That seem to be the starting point of devotion. And if you really give yourself in, that you don't need name *who* gave in, but somebody gave in. Why do we need name? Given in already. Even if we don't have to talk about who gave in, the giver has no name. Giver does not need the credentials or get credited, degree of giving situation. Everybody jumps into the gigantic cauldron. No matter how fast, how late they jumped in the cauldron, the water is boiling, fires are kept going. You are going to be turn out to be good meat, good stew.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=1730.0,1822.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's unreasonable, sure. But that's necessary measurement. Starting point, from this point of view, of giving into, is the starting point, that you are dismantling your credentials. That seem to the whole point of devotional. Before you *devote*, devote, we need discoloring, de-personalizing, of individual's trips. Let's put it a very unpleasant term. Shall we say that purpose of surrendering is make everybody as gray. No white, no red, no blue -- pure gray. Teaching demands throwing every irritations into big cauldron of soup. You can't stuck your neck out say, \"I'm onion, therefore I should be more smelly!\" [Laughter] \"Get down, you're one of the vegetables.\" [Laughter] \"I'm a carrot. I'm orange-color. Aren't I noticeable? No.\" \"You are a carrot and orange because we didn't boil you enough.\" [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have discussions on that [laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=1822.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: How does that devotion tie into-- how does the devotion tie in with what you were talking about a couple weeks ago about faith and fear? I mean is there-- is the faith and fear, does that come out in devotion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As long as there's enough sense of \"give\" that comes with it, yeah. The devotion is seem to be normalizing whole thing, life situation -- somewhat.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I don't quite understand that. How is it normalizing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that you become one of the mess, in life, and you are not a special person anymore. Therefore you are humble.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=1980.0,2047.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, isn't that identity just as strong as the opposite? How do you avoid the risk of becoming too devoted? It seems that being humble in itself is a tremendous advantage. I don't understand it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. Being humble is at least you allow your private parts, or your weak points, which means you are giving away your extraordinary aspect of yourself. And somebody could dance with that private parts, or the sore point of yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I'm sorry, say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sore point of yourself. That which you feel uncomfortable. It goes with the discomfort. I mean, the devotional practice is not at all good one, a pleasurable one at all. It's *obscene*, some way. Because it *expose* yourself. You feel uncomfortable. You being under-minded, or you be -- what you call -- exploited. That you feel you're being exposed, beyond the speed that you want to be exposed. That usually when we want to expose ourselves, we prepare for it; we try to prepare tremendously for it. So that when we got exposed, that we exposed because that our exposition becomes safe. But devotion is taking no risk, and you be exposed in any case, if you're underprepared or overprepared you be exposed any case. That all the shit and the piss, and blood, flesh is being exposed. [Makes slicing sound].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What you're saying then is that then this is a situation allowing your neurosis to come out?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I mean devotion is asking for trouble in fact [laughter], if we could say so. That's one of the very interesting thing that we should keep in mind, is developing devotion is asking for trouble. That certain things we feel that not ready to exposed, because we want to prepare for it, we want to come out and very handsome and a beautiful exit. [Laughter] It shortcuts. That your process of putting up your suit, and you just got to your underpants, and the devotion trip expose yourself, before you put your suit and tie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=2047.0,2281.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Why get kicked in the teeth, you know? You expose yourself, you open yourself, you get kicked in the teeth, you just end up with broken teeth. So I don't understand. [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's exposure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah, but you end up broken, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You end up broken.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You end up what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Broken.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You do.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe that's your flair.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Huh? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe that is your flair.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Maybe a carrot.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What do you mean \"flair?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe you're too much orange in your carrot-ness. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So how do you relate to the experience of exposing yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Expose as broken teeth.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So you just feel the pain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't feel it, you take pride in it. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=2281.0,2343.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Is it that aspect which is tantamount to the tantra, the tantric way of exploiting the energy, as contrasted to the same way of merely accepting the phenomenal world?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. We didn't have a chance to discuss much about tantra at this point, but to keep whole thing in practical way, that is tantra. Quite quite.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=2343.0,2381.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Why should you take pride in your pain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because there's no other choice. Pleasure is not so good because that, that reminds you of your pain. So pain is the only alternative. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=2381.0,2404.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Could you comment on the difference between this kind of uncomfortable exposure of devotion that you discussed, and the ecstatic type of devotion that you find described in Hinduism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE] say so, I was planning on talking about that.. But I'm particularly talking on this tonight, is laying the ground, that the Buddhist approach to devotion, to begin with. We could discuss that later on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=2404.0,2441.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, I thought you said one of the main reasons for having a guru was because that way it would help to avoid spiritual pride. If you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Spiritual what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Spiritual pride.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Pride.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: If you are-- if in your suffering, you become proud of your pain, I don't see...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't see what the problem is.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: If-- I thought that one of the reasons for having a guru is to avoid spiritual pride.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: *Avoid* spiritual pride. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Then when you're taking pride in your pain, isn't that the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, that's an entirely different approach.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: It is, I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Taking pride in your pain is taking pride in that your shit. And spiritual friend that you're involved with, probably would say the same thing, that you have a splinter in your heel-- in your fingers. And you have accident last night, which is good, because that speaks of your trip, your involvement. From that point of view, of having a little accident is good. Because your spiritual friend could *refine* that, as being valuable thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=2441.0,2561.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well, could devotion then be said to be just trusting in these energies, or the process of these energies that are busting me all apart, exposing yourself? Not at the pace you want, but at their own pace--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --just look and trust it, even though you [laughing] don't like it. Just-- is that what you do with devotion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, but trusting it which means also you could trust frivolously. You could trust properly, but you have to find out how you trust and whole thing is very complicated. Some kind of intelligence is needed, other word, this point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Then it's not just devotion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that *is* devotion, in this case.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well what you mean by \"blind faith?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well blind faith is that you have sense of wishful thinking. That you want to achieve what you want to achieve, therefore you don't discuss about logics, you just get into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=2561.0,2626.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somebody there?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: How do you tell the difference between the genuine pain that's brought on by *seeing* what's happening, and self-indulgence in suffering, you know for a special ego trip you're on? Does that make any sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, pain is very real. You don't ask for synonyms for the pain. Pain *means* pain, discomfort. If you look for dictionary, says same thing. Pain is discomfort--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --physical, psychological. So what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well, I mean you *like* pain. I mean for an ego thing rather than for... Oh, I have a hard time explaining that, but I mean you can get into situations that you invite it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean a masochistic?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah, right. Right. How do you know the difference between--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Masochistic pain and real pain. [Laughter] Masochistic pain is pain with attitude of possible pleasure--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --and real pain is the pain is straightforward pain.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: And you'd know that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. Masochism involves a certain effort of -- what's the word? [Laughter] Deception, that's the word. [Rings gong] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=2626.0,2755.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche, when you find yourself confronting a situation that is very painful, it's-- and since we're dealing with energies, then are we to just become like a witness, and see it without making any comment? Or we should consciously try to use that situation, very consciously to move away from--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Just acknowledge.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Just acknowledge the pain.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But not try to do anything with it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, once you try to do something with it, then you automatically means that you were trying to get rid of it. Seeking pleasure. So, just be with the pain. [Rings gong] *Be* with the pain. Be *with* pain. [Laughter] Be with the *pain*. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=2755.0,2830.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: If you're in a scene where you're really-- where you're responsible for a lot of other people, is it true that what you do is be with--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Such as have five children? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Five children, okay, right. When I'm in a situation that might be-- might cause pain for me, but it might cause pain for them. And why I should think it's all right if it causes pain to me, but I should avoid anything that causes pain to them. Is that right or wrong?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you started yourself first. Your version of the other people, five children.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Yes. Six.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You take your version of-- find out, what is your version of them, rather than what they are.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Okay, in the meantime you have to act on choices you're given. You have to act on your perception of them.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that be related with what's happening, in your life situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm afraid it's not a very compassionate thing. And not quite the level of a marriage counselor, but happens to be true. [Rings gong]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=2830.0,2913.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: John?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JOHN: Is devotion something that happens at the moment you realize you've been exposed, or is it something that happens afterwards when you're aware of the exposure?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's later, because you begin realize you been exposed, but then you begin to realize you have tremendous challenges of all kinds, that you have to meet. Which happens afterwards. Tremendous challenging things happening afterwards.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=2913.0,2951.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89222/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We might have to end our meeting this point. [Rings gong several times]\r\n\r\n\r\nI would like to ask if people in the community, our members, as well as people are visiting seminar situation, that please try and take interest in the discussion groups that we going to have tomorrow. And there are some people who will act as leaders, in the discussion groups, and I would prefer that if you could take part in that advantage. And by doing so that you probably would realize -- or recognize at least -- to relate with the community members here in Boulder, Colorado, had been working very hard, in their development. And a lot of things that imparted by me to the community members here have developed enormously. And I prefer if you could take part in it, and that would be extremely powerful. And discussion groups would be good, as well as sitting practices that had been programmed.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Rinpoche?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Do you want to mention [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why don't you do it? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I forgot to mention the nyinthun, which is an all-day meditation coming up Wednesday. And Rinpoche suggests that it'd be a good idea, instead of just wandering around the mountains and seeing the scenery here, that you come and sit and spend the day in meditation, along with the seminars and discussion groups-- discussion groups.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: So please come to the nyinthun as well and sit, and meditate all day. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's a lot of things about the community here that people had been involved -- how many members do we have now?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Ninety-five.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How many?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Ninety-five. A hundred and fifty.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Whatever. [Laughter] That nobody here took part in the community activities or becoming community member are by no means frivolous. They can't afford to be frivolous because their whole thing is too painful. And because of that, that people have achieved a tremendous development. And I prefer if anybody would like to relate with-- any visiting guests able to relate with community members, and taking part in a study group, and discussion groups, and sitting practice, that would be very helpful.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd I think that as far as community members concerned, that their approach is very direct and very simple. It is approach of American Buddhism, rather than Tibetan Buddhism. And quite possibly that you might learn lot of things out of them. Much better than myself at this point, say the least.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo discussion groups will be good, and also taking part in the nyinthun will be highly... beautiful. I prefer that nobody will cop out of that. Please take part in nyinthun, because that's very important. You have a seminar discussing things, and then you have a stopping the actions for one day: just eat, sit, sit, walk. That's fantastic, that's *good*. Please try and take part in that as visitors. As well as the spectators who might be involved with the fringe of the community here. It would be good. Please, anybody who would like to come into nyinthun, would be good. Please try and do it. And you will learn something different aspect of the whole thing. And you're going to have a good time. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nThank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=2951.0,3279.151"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89223","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730505VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89223/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=0.54,4.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89223/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar entitled\nDevotional Buddhism of Tibet,\nheld in Boulder, Colorado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=4.25,9.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89223/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number one,\nMay 5th, 1973.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=9.54,14.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89223/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital remaster\nmade December 2006.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=14.09,19.42"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89223/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: This is Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche\nin Boulder, Colorado","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=19.42,22.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89223/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at the Devotional\nBuddhism seminar, 1973.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=22.94,26.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89223/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The following\nis lecture one, May 5th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=26.36,31.51"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89223/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like\nto welcome\neveryone here take part","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=39.85,44.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89223/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in this\nparticular 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Pride.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=2453.23,2454.51"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89223/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7: If you are--\nif in your suffering,\nyou become proud of your pain,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=2454.51,2459.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89223/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't 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If--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=2466.8,2469.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89223/annotation/398","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I thought that\none of the reasons\nfor having a guru","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=2472.84,2476.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89223/annotation/399","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is to avoid spiritual 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Just--\nis that what you do\nwith devotion?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=2578.39,2582.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89223/annotation/421","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah,\nbut trusting it\nwhich means","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=2582.34,2584.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89223/annotation/422","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"also you could\ntrust frivolously.\nYou could trust 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Right.\nHow do you know\nthe difference between--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=2693.43,2698.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89223/annotation/449","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Masochistic pain\nand real pain.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071#t=2698.5,2706.587"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165479/file/301071/transcript/89223/annotation/450","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Masochistic pain is pain\nwith attitude\nof possible 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