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Topics include ego in relation to the three poisons (passion, aggression, and ignorance); taking an egoless approach to dedication, and how this automatically gives rise to devotion; transcendental motivation -- inspiration beyond one’s own gain to include the interests of the universe; differentiating this presentation from theistic forms of devotion; and devotion in relation to buddha nature. Includes a detailed presentation of three traditional stages of devotion: tang-wé (inspiration, clarity, delight, upliftedness); dö-pé (longing, aspiration, fearlessness when diving in, immense trust); and yi-ché (traditionally confidence and conviction, presented here as being \"finally convinced\"). Q\u0026amp;A Highlight: Question 2, further descriptions of ego and motivation.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eApr 26 2020 to Jan 08 2026 Transcribing: Leandra Ziegler Checking: Julia McKaig Final Proof: Travis May Terminology Review: Lynn Friedman Other Contributors: Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1975"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003ePresentation on devotion. Topics include ego in relation to the three poisons (passion, aggression, and ignorance); taking an egoless approach to dedication, and how this automatically gives rise to devotion; transcendental motivation -- inspiration beyond one\u0026rsquo;s own gain to include the interests of the universe; differentiating this presentation from theistic forms of devotion; and devotion in relation to buddha nature. Includes a detailed presentation of three traditional stages of devotion: tang-w\u0026eacute; (inspiration, clarity, delight, upliftedness); d\u0026ouml;-p\u0026eacute; (longing, aspiration, fearlessness when diving in, immense trust); and yi-ch\u0026eacute; (traditionally confidence and conviction, presented here as being \"finally convinced\"). Q\u0026amp;A Highlight: Question 2, further descriptions of ego and motivation.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260128-3797118-ksfwad.mpga"]},"duration":3513.67831,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/301/079/original/open-uri20260128-3797118-ksfwad.mpga?1769642349","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3513.67831,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19750413VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19750413VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Cynicism and Devotion - Talk 3]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Cynicism and Devotion held at Karme Choling in Vermont. This is talk number three, April 13th, 1975.\r\n\r\n\r\nThis is an ARP digital remaster made June 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: The following will be the Vajracharya, the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. This will be talk three of a seminar entitled Cynicism and Devotion given at Karme Choling April the 13th, 1975.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=0.0,35.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Continue what we discussed yesterday, we hope to get into the discussion of devotion this point. The question of dedication comes first. When we talk about dedication here, we are talking in terms of egoless interest, which is quite difficult to come by, generally. That usually most of the interest comes from ego. That we have a feeling that if we are doing some particular situation and we feel involving in a certain particular task, we feel that we have ego. And, therefore, we're going to see through the whole thing, whole project. And we would like to get rewarded at least to enjoy what we are doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=35.0,112.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the case of ego*less* situation, that quite different in some sense. But, on the other hand, it doesn't seem to be all that different, because the question of entertainment does not play important part. Therefore, there is a sense of a general satisfaction and a sense of a general freedom is taking place. In turn, person is able to take interest into the situation much more so than that you are involved into the ego-oriented projects of all kinds. Free from ego's approach to reality seem to have a connection with the reality completely without being filtered through other destructing situations of any kind. So it would be-- could be said as a pure communication or real communication, whatever, of that type.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=112.0,204.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Basically, ego is motivated by ignorance, which is a sense of complete bewilderment, and passion which is a sense of wanting to reduce all the available environment into your particular gain, and aggression, that is to say, if anything doesn't come along accordance with your expectation, you ward them off. So that seem to be the ego situation. And there is possibility that we can operate beyond that level, absolutely beyond that level. Possibility of doing that is apparent. And dedication comes along with that kind of approach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=204.0,258.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That the traditional language is that appreciation of the teaching that we become one with the dharma, inspired by the dharma. It is said that supposedly, that in order to hear the teachings of the Buddha, you had to be egoless. That is to say, you have to transcend petty motivation and had to develop some kind of transcendental motivation at the same time, which is important. So \"transcendental motivation\" here meaning, \"inspired beyond your own gain,\" particularly, but a greater gain in a sense that you are begin to share the interest of the universe, rather than just interest of one's own little tribal or domestic, provincial interest alone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=258.0,325.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, from that situation of our devotion begin to arise; that dedication brings devotion automatically. And the devotion is based on a three-fold process according to the traditional way, which is also organic way of looking at the whole thing. The devotion aspect is three-fold, because it has the beginning, it has the progressive step, it has the final step at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=325.0,359.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the first step is said to be that of \"tang-we\" which literally means a sense of clearing the air, a sense of rejoice. In other word, we could say quite safely, if the situation is somewhat stuffy and claustrophobic and uninspiring, that we cannot relate with anything, which actually is quite a natural situation. It goes with the ordinary events of life happens as well. That if you want to go to concert, the first motivation to buy the ticket to go to the concert is based on the sense of the particular subject that you want to hear. Whether it is classical, whether it is rock or whatever it's may be, you hear the hums in your mind, which clears the air, which makes you spend your money and go to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=359.0,435.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then you go out and buy the ticket, which is getting involved with the whole thing. And then you go ahead and do it, attend the concert. How boring sometimes it may be, obviously not all the time it's going to be entertaining necessarily, but then you would like to sit through the whole thing and would like to make best out of that particular world. So, in the same way, that it's like buying a ticket that which actually inspires to buy you the ticket to going to a concert or going to cinema for that matter. That you have some kind of uplifting feeling that your heart goes up and your breath goes light. And you begin to feel delightful: \"How delightful it could be only if I could go to such and such play, such and such concert, such and such cinema.\" That you feel somewhat clearly at the moment how depressing the rest of the situations may be. But at-- for the time being, you feel somewhat uplifted and is feel that that the whole area is completely opened with immense fragrance [laughs] like burning incense in the backs of your car. [laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=435.0,536.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The sense of delight, which also has, of course, there's some element of frivolity that involved, but the level of frivolity is very minute. But largely whole thing is based on a sense of excitement in the genuine sense. That you feel that your basic being is able to click with that particular environment, that particular situation. And you would like to go into that particular environment, concert hall or cinema, theatre, or whatever it's may be. That you have a sense of really appreciating the whole thing, the whole environment, the whole process, completely, thoroughly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=536.0,589.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's what's called \"tang-we\" or \"clarity,\" this case. That there is some kind of a fundamental-- not only just desire or frivolity or indulgency [sic], but a sense of kind of your subconscious mind begin to acquire wings. And it begin to fly in air, begin to wake up, and it begin to float in the air. And a sense of not only just delight necessarily as the ordinary kind of idea of desire. But it's-- it somehow has mixture of a heaviness in the sense of textural quality. At the same time, it has the quality of lightness of its floating quality at the same time begin to occur, begin to develop. Which usually happens with any kind of interest that exist in our ordinary everyday life situation. But, however, this particular case, searching for a particular teacher, having founded certain particular teacher or the teaching that you have a devotion towards that particular situation. That makes fear of not one-pointed interest. Like going to a restaurant, which is just you go out and eat and stuffed, and that's the end of that satisfaction. Or going to a concert or a cinema is just a one-shot deal of that particular night, that particular day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=589.0,703.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, in this case, it is a cosmic one, that you are halting the relate with your the rest of your life. And it has longer-- long-term planning. And somehow this does not had to concern *you* personally, individually, necessarily so. But it has the sense of atmosphere that doesn't concern you, but at the same time it does concern you, however. And it's a general atmosphere in which there is a sense of fun and a sense of gaiety and a sense of joyousness begin to take place, which begin to fill the space and make whole air light.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=703.0,752.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And next, second stage is what's called \"do-pe,\" which is \"desire\" in a sense, or \"wanting\" in some sense. In this case, that this particular situation had to be followed by the previous situation automatically. Then, having cleared the air already, then you have a sense of desire to get into it more. And the sense of wanting to get into it more. If somebody bluntly comes to you and ask, \"Why are you doing this?,\" in the first hand account, that you may not have any answer. Of course, on the second hand account, you might make up some philosophical, moralistic ideas, which becomes a statement of something. You're going to do this, because you felt it's the right thing for you to do. But those things are just regarded as bullshit in some sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=752.0,823.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But the first account is what is counted, is the sense of actually you want to get into it. You might realize when you want to get into this, and you might be jumping into jaws of a crocodile, or you might be jumping into the heavenly honey lake. [laughter] Whatever you might be just about to be doing, but still there is a conviction is involved that nobody can stop you. And you are actually going to do it, actually going to get into this particular situation. And very reasonable people, such as, like parents and old friends would say, \"I don't think this such a good idea for you to do so.\" But, however, that you resent them and, \"I said, I'm going to do it.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=823.0,898.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You can get into properly and completely into this. And there is some kind of fearlessness actually taking place. Although the situation is uncertain after this, you have no idea what you're going to get out of this. And there's all kinds of fear, there's all kinds of uncertainties that your cosmic mind might be chopped into pieces, or your cosmic mind would be raped. Whatever it's might be, but still you're willing to do this and get into it, properly, thoroughly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=898.0,944.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The third stage which is-- we could call it revelation, or the Tibetans call, \"yi-che,\" \"yi\" meaning \"mind,\" \"che\" meaning \"convinced\" somewhat. Which is revelation of some kind in which that no-- you are not only just getting into it fearlessly, you are willing to jump off the cliff. But you begin to feel the projected ideas of what might become of you if you get into this. And that is to say that there's immense trust and immense sense of emulation to the lineage teaching and the teacher at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=944.0,1009.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is a sense of that you are watching the sun shine, and you are not only see the sun itself but getting back as a glare at your eyes. You are dazzled by that particular situation, which is a convention. Finally, you are convinced, completely convinced. Having convinced already, that all your preconceptions been burnt out already. That whatever you might actually face, potentially face, but there's no room for stepping back. If you're trying to step back naturally, one might do so, but then as you step back that the light begin to glare at you more and more so. So you begin to feel that you are actually captivated by that kind of commitment that you have made already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=1009.0,1076.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So there are three-fold types of devotion that is involved. First one is clearing the air, \"tang-we\" \"tang.\" Second one is \"do-pe\" which is a \"desire to be so.\" And third one is \"yi-che,\" which is actually finally convinced that glare begin to approach you, begin to come back to your situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=1076.0,1106.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Devotion, from that point of view is very natural kind of devotion. The theistic disciplines talk about devotion as being falling in love comparable to that of parents. Somehow that makes things too domesticated and too literal in some sense. That as if you lost your parents, and then you look for better person to love for, ask for its security. So you be just roaming around all over the place. Finally, you just run into super parents, and you decide to fall in love to that particular person and \"oohs\" and \"ahhs,\" all kinds of things that goes with that. And you prostrate, and you begin to give all kinds of nice things, flowers and incense or lick his feet or whatever. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=1106.0,1186.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Somehow, it's still ape instinct kind of process rather than at least a human kind of situation. That somehow it doesn't happen in the-- this particular approach of devotion according to the Buddhist tradition. The devotion is three-fold -- tang, do, yi-che -- those three principles always apply. That you are not just worshipping animal, another animal, which could be your parents, or it could be your lover.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=1186.0,1220.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is a ideal example of a theistic analogy, I think it's reveals in the songs of Kabir, the Indian poet, who says that he lost his lover, he's been looking for his lover long time. He prayed for his lover, recited his lover's name. And finally he realized that he does not have any lover, and then he finally found that what he's repeating is his own name. And he realized that name is the name of God. That's breathtaking story. It's somewhat fantastic idea. If you can do that, that's it! That's the whole thing, that's the whole spiel. [laughter] You could-- you don't have anything more than that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=1220.0,1276.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, somehow, it doesn't make any sense beyond that level except in making fool of oneself. Actually, if you're really intelligent enough, particularly if your aim of devotion and the projected situations are based on the idea of non-ego but still highly inspired beyond ego level, that you are not particularly concerned with your relatives. In other word, that if there's a greater goal of object or devotion, that goal should not become smaller, belittled by substitute for worshipping one's parents or one's lover. It should become greater than that. Real spirituality is supposed to being mean that spirituality is something transcends realm of this particular world, domestically, spiritually, whatever, materialistically. If one is able to worship somebody, emulate somebody, that should have a greater space, dignity, more than just *this* little setup here that have exist here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=1276.0,1359.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So transcending that particular situation seem to have only three-fold situations. That is to say, the sense of clarity, and the sense of conviction, and a sense of real confirmation that is coming to you. And this approach might be said as quite cool and calm and somewhat very distant in some sense. Those who are really looking for a substitute husband, substitute wife, substitute parents, of course. But what we are discussing here is something more than that. And we are also not talking about substitute school teacher, substitute professor, who failed to relate with your learning situation. That now, finally, you found this particular person who could replace the all of those.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=1359.0,1425.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The question of devotion here is very basic and fundamental. That everything is somewhat basic raw and rugged quality in one hand. But, on the other hand, it is just simply a question of-- you can afford to extend your vision; you don't have to stop in the half-way. That human mind contains more than human mind, contains buddha nature. So accordance with that insight and, as well and experiences, we can afford to expand ourselves a *greater* level. We can go beyond human samsaric level. It is highly possible. And one doesn't have to stuck to-- stick to a purely conventionality of what we have. And that seem to be the general idea of devotion basically, fundamentally.\r\n\r\n\r\nYou have questions, you are welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=1425.0,1507.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I-- I've-- I'm thinking about despair or I feel like I understood what you were talking about, and that I've somehow had some experience of those three steps or of the buddha nature within myself. And yet, I've lost it, you know. I've-- and it seems I don't understand that. You know, how is that possible?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't be too frantic.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I'm sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't be too frantic. Take your time. If you're worried in three o'clock in the morning whether sun is going to shine, [laughter; laughs] you might think that you finally you produced the sun at seven o'clock or six o'clock. [laughter] But, however, you didn't do it; it just happened. It requires a lot of space and self-confident. And, at the same time, without ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=1507.0,1595.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Okay, Well, I-- [laughs] your words evoke two feelings in me. One, in relating to that kind of a feeling of conviction and of devotion, sometimes I feel very convinced that I have devotion when I feel some-- like an exultant feeling in my heart, which makes me laugh when I see the truth of something that my teacher has said. So I laugh, and I feel very, very uplifted in my heart like that. Sometimes, I experience something that's seemingly as convincing. And that is a feeling of a sort of child-like feeling that I am relating to a teacher but as though I was in kindergarten or... Well, you know, relating to a teacher as though I was just a child who-- and he was teaching me something really important that I needed like to read or to write or to count. That sort of thing. I don't know, are these real? Is the-- is that it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's not a question of whether they are real, particularly. You see, that according to Buddhist logic, that you can't say, \"That is real.\" That reality has something to do with something else, which is your relationship to it at the same time. You could say, “At this morning?” You know, the person might say, \"Don't ask me, ask yourself.\" Do you feel like morning-- being in the morning? It doesn't matter whether the sun shines or sun sets, whether you see the dawn, whatever. It how you feel in yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo the question here comes back to us. That if our motivations and insight are based on that, there is some sense of hollowness, so to speak. Some sense of hollowness and some sense of non-existence in our own basic motivation of ego. That if ego does not exist, in a sense, basically not thriving on our pride and not thriving on our struggle constantly but allowing some kind of gap in which that you are able to appreciate those things happening. Or whether those things happening you are begin to appreciate *because* you are thriving so much.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd it is very much based on what is happening in oneself, in you. And such a question is very difficult to answer purely as a technologically categorized. It's a question of what's happening *here* first. And, then, accordingly something will happen out there. And those two had to correspond together. And it make further sense if there's no-- nobody at home here to begin with. Then, something will happen out there that somebody is home there, which becomes a more heavy-handed situation maybe. That's okay, because the heavy-handedness of that is because nobody is here at home. And that's okay. Whereas, if a lot of people home here, then somebody is happening here who also seem to be at home. And then you begin to have a warfare or a love affair, which lead into very complicated marriages and divorces -- all kinds things begin to take place.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo it's a question of what's happening here actually. Basically, what is one's motivation is. If there's no motivation at all, then the relationship seem to be quite clear and clean, so to speak. There's nothing to worry, nothing to panic about it. And what's happening here is very subtle. And the first experience one might feel is, if you feel nobody is at home here, you begin to feel a sense of lost, a sense of dizziness in some sense, a sense of uncertainty. But, still, that movie's projected on the screen out there. That seem to be okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [laughs] But the-- after the feeling of being lost, does one feel found?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there's no promises as usual. But there is something that begin to discover on the level of--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Mhmm. And are you saying that the discovery is obvious? Like, there are no--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Really?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I mean, that's been happening in the past 2,500 years of Buddhism, and people discovered themselves. I don't see why you can't do it. [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=1595.0,1936.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I'd like to ask you about the stage of clarity -- the moment where you decide to go and buy the ticket for the concert. You said that, in that moment is characterized by a heavy quality and a light quality. Would you explain a little bit more about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think, it's very natural, very simple. It's just a sense of that you are about to take action, about to get into a situation. You know, you have a sense of-- you begin to catch the wind, so to speak, or the flu. So you project yourself further. Is there any problem with that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I was-- I guess, I was thinking when you talked about the heavy quality or the heavy texture, I was wondering if you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, obviously, that if you're going to attend a concert or going to see a movie, you might feel that lopsided. You as the open-minded, innocent viewer, audience are going to overweighed by the heavy-handed disciplined and heavy-handed work that put in by what you're going to see. But that seem to be okay. There's no problem with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=1936.0,2063.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Today, as I was sitting here, I still had a strong sense that there's a lot of people at home running around inside, and I was thinking about this kind of notions of-- that you've been talking about, of a kind of enlightened cynicism and enlightened devotion. And, in my own experience with my cynicism and devotion, is that there are still very much a kind of crude blanket affair -- feels a bit like a bear trap. And I kind of get caught between a kind of, what the guy described the other night as kind of everything is bullshit kind of cynicism and then a kind of devotion to going around and looking for teachers to kind of show me the way out from that kind of crude cynicism. And I'm wondering how one moves in those spaces between that kind of crude feelings about the world and this more enlightened thing that you keep talking about.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you think about enlightened things we are talking about is about?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: It sounds good. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, what is it all about? What is *that*, in your way of thinking?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Some way to be more spacious, that-- towards the world and...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: And trying to get some sense of that spaciousness, I guess, inside of myself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah. Well, I think basically there's no problem. You see, if you look for the whole thing as trying to solve this big problem, and more you're trying to solve the problem, your home is overpopulated.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [laughs; laughter] I noticed that today. [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [laughter] So this is not particularly regarded as a big project what we are doing in terms of pursuit and devotion or whatever, regarded as not particularly project, but it's organic growth that involved. You understand?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So that just sitting is part of that organic growth?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah. You are not trying to combat anything, particularly, and there is no warfare is taking place.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: How does one get beyond that feeling of warfare or deal with it or [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think, warfare is in itself is has a space element in it already. Otherwise, you can't have warfare. If everybody is locked up in one tight box together, you can't even extend your fist to somebody. [laughter] In order to have a warfare fighting situation, you have to have a lot of space to [laughter] bounce on each other.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well, I'll see. [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's best way to do, experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=2063.0,2301.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: As soon as the devotion comes up, I-- that I automatically want an object to-- and in other forms of devotion, when I had devotion before, it was always the reward of having an object to be devoted to and getting involved in that. And in the-- and with the Buddhism and the deities there's this thing where the deities aren't really deities they're, you know, representations of yourself or qualities, their quality-- it's kind of a-- it's not-- you [laughs] can't get that same feeling. It's like [laughter] it's fakery. I mean, it's just-- I don't know, it's... [laughter] How do you get that feeling of devotion without having an object? Without having, you know, anything to...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: George Washington. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I don't follow. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't know him?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: You mean, yeah, I mean, the father [laughter] of the country. It's very easy to be devoted to-- I mean it just seems-- it seems like you have to somehow trick yourself into being devoted to the-- something that's hollow.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that seem to be the basis of the whole thing. If you have found somebody that you can devoted to, you can worship, that in itself-- is in itself an expression of hypocrisy, automatically, in any way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: You mean, in terms of reality?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What else? [laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But just the same, how do you get that feeling of-- I don't-- I mean, it's very hard for me to get that feeling of devotion to something that I'm just imagining. You know, what I mean of the forms--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you don't have to imagine anything. Or you been imagining all along all the time, which is saying the same thing. That idea is that idea of truth of some kind in which that everyday life's pain is real; you been going through that pain. And the pain is regarded as part of the truth, is partly regarded as part of the dharmas automatically. And then somebody who actually realize the dharma, the truth of pain as being real or for that matter, truth of enlightenment as being real, which is by no means problematic, because actually it's happening, rather than purely fairytale. The rest of the things that you might be worshipping Mickey Mouse, you know, or anything else, you know, Jehovah, up here or whoever there may be around, Brahma sitting on a lotus, you know, all those guys are part of Mickey Mouse. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSo we have to be realistic in some sense. We should be doing properly things as they are. Devotion is, like, before you drive your car, revving your engines so to make sure that engines will pick up momentum. You can put your engine and you could put your gear system into gear. You can actually drive and get into the path properly. And a lot of realities involved here. That the deities that in the Buddhist tradition are not real, they are not really deities, but if you have any deity at all, nothing is going to be real at all anyway. That everything have to be expression of something or other.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: It's like once you get on that level, then you could get that same feeling?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What level you are talking about?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I mean, where you realize that they're-- that an idea is that, well, it's that what you-- maybe, say, if you came from a theistic approach where you thought God was real, and you could really pray and devote yourself to God. But then you see that, \"Well, God, there is no God.\" Or \"there-- it wasn’t real.\" Then you have nothing to devote yourself to, but then you find out that you can-- that an idea is just as real as you thought that God was.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, idea is not real.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Well, if God weren't real either, then the idea would be just as real as God.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somewhat. Now we are getting into a theological debate. An idea of something is not so much whether the idea is real, but what is real? The object of an idea. If you have idea that under your tongue, there is scorpion, it's not real. Do you think it could be real? If you imagine it enough? Feel your tongue. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: No, I don't... [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughs] There might be one. [laughter] [baby babbles; laughter] Very real. But, at the same time, the astronauts are not asked to do 100,000 prostration to the moon before they get there. But they are expected to sharpen their technological wisdom and keep their system prepared for it. And they get into the spaceship, and they fly over, which is more realistic. You see, you cannot deceive reality by imagination. That's what it is all about. Since you cannot see God, there's no point in pondering on it -- on him or it or her, or whatever. And may have to get from something very real on this earth level.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I mean, I-- it just seems like the-- any-- I don't know. It's the objectivity just seems like you just throw it out the window and forget about it altogether.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's maybe is the dharma to do so.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Then...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That is the dharma -- throwing objectivities out of the window.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: And that-- then devotion is relating to that. And devotion is like is an evacuation process--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Reality, yeah, that's it. That truth of that if you put your finger on a burning stove, it burn you. It's truth. And so forth. [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=2301.0,2919.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Then do I understand--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Pardon me?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Say that again. Say that again.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Do I understand you to say that you're talking about devotion to truth, and not to Rama sitting on a lotus petal? I'm confused by the whole idea of devotion, because you say it's not worship. But, in the devotion seminar last summer [1973 True Meaning of Devotion], I guess, you were talking about devotion to the guru and surrender. And I guess I'm very confused about your role in this as spiritual friend and where devotion, you know, comes into that. Because, you know, and last night you talked about a doctor and healing a sickness. But the doctor cures the sickness, but you don't find yourself devoted to the doctor. So I guess I just don't understand really devotion. There seems to be so many different forms of devotion. It's sort of like Neil was saying, it's not worship. So...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, what you think \"worship\" means?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I guess, the only associations I've ever known it with are the same thing as a theistic idea of worshipping some more powerful being with some sort of reward, some spiritually materialistic reward thrown in at the end.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well, I think the idea of devotion to the guru is not so much of the putting guru into the-- onto the pedestal like exalted parson in the church. But actually relating that person as spokesman of what's happening in the reality. That particular reality might have a lot of legs [laughs] but still it is reality. And [laughs] actually relating on that level that somebody who actually says, makes sense in your life situation and the message of what's happening with your life in reality, basically, and you could emulate that particular person.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Can I-- that makes a lot of sense, but when you refer to \"spiritual friend,\" and yesterday you said it's naive to go looking for a replacement for your parents, how can you have a one-way friendship? Like, you talk to us and, like, what do we get to give to you? [laughter] You know, it's always-- it's-- the word \"friend\" is it seems like it's a very intellectual friendship and not, you know...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that we are talking about exactly the same point. If you have a relationship to your parents, it's a one-way relationship, obviously. That they expect you to obey what they had to say. And open your bank account for you, and you are not expected to draw money too much from that and be respectable. But in this case, we are talking about a two-way relationship situation like our relationship, you and me here. That we are talking to each other at this point. If I am talking to you, therefore, you are talking to me. So, if I wouldn't be here if you are not there, at all. [laughs] If this particular seminar booking has reduced into zero, I wouldn't be here talking to my empty chairs anymore. [laughter; laughs] That would be insane thing to do. [laughter] I would cancel the whole thing. [laughter; laughs] So it's two-way relationship; my existence here is depends on your existing there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well, does that make our coming and, in a sense giving you a job, an act of friendship on our part?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. [laughter] Well, we are not attacking each other, and we are on a friendly basis. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=2919.0,3220.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: You talked about it not being worshipping but extending your vision. But you said that you got-- that got-- the human mind goes beyond the human mind. And I don't understand how-- why is it-- how is Buddha beyond the human mind? Why is that beyond the human mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How is what Buddha?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah, you said Buddha was beyond the human mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Beyond?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: The human mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's buddha mind. It's a different kind of mind than the ordinary mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But it's still part of the human mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, otherwise there's no Buddha.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Right that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: You just meant the human mind in the ordinary sense of not stretching it, or...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the human mind doesn't extend a great deal except survival and defending its territory, which is the same as the animal realm in some sense. But there is a greater mind beyond that, which is maybe said as a human-like approach in some sense, but it is not exactly human mind necessarily. It's reasoning mind, obviously. But it doesn't become natural ordinary human mind, which is very domesticated kind of mind. However sophisticated it may be, it still it's a very domesticated mind. And that's why, you know, somebody who is usually, even in the ordinary human world, somebody-- someone like Einstein who is supposedly very intelligent person and he's on the verge of categorized as being insane. Because people have a difficulty relating with that kind of launching beyond some human conceptual mind and getting into a new area of a realm altogether. That when they begin to feel difficult relate with that and you might label them as being mad or insane, so human beings begin to panic.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=3220.0,3376.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Did you say that devotion was egoless?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Should be.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: If that's the case, then how can we participate? How can--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: If that's the case, then how can we participate in it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you can [have] your little egoless gaps. That is what's happens actually with the devotion. And the true devotion is only born in you when there is a moment of egolessness happen in you. That doesn't necessarily mean to say that you are completely, you know, annihilated, rejected all the time. But true devotion is it can only happen in your moments of your health or moments of your weakness, whatever it's may be. That when there is a gap, really begin to click.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So then devotion is synonymous with communication?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Something like that, in highest form I suppose. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: And is cynicism, is it-- does it have have aggression in it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. It has kind of all kinds of colors mixed together, which usually becomes gray, but I think there's a lot of chili powders in there. [laughter] It's possible.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Which-- what is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Everything is possible. [laughter] Anything is a heavy dosage of humor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=3376.0,3496.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89238/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything else? Well, I think we should close this point. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=3496.0,3513.67831"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89239","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19750413VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89239/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=0.51,4.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89239/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar entitled Cynicism\nand Devotion held at Karme\nCholing in Vermont.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079#t=4.25,8.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165488/file/301079/transcript/89239/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number three,\nApril 13th, 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