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They also take call-in questions from listeners, including a charming exchange with then-17-year-old Jason Gavras, who later became a close student. This unusually public Q\u0026amp;A includes further discussion of reincarnation, as well as dialogue about charlatans, karma, enlightenment, and more. \u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eNov 19 2019 to Sep 03 2020 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Mary Beth Kean Final Proof: Matilda Perks Terminology Review: Matilda Perks Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eRadio host Doug Pringle interviews Chogyam Trungpa about his background, the American spiritual climate, and asks him the question: \"What is Buddhism?\" The pair explore Trungpa Rinpoche's concept of sanity, the Buddhist path, meditation, the importance of personal transmission from a spiritual teacher, and reincarnation. They also take call-in questions from listeners, including a charming exchange with then-17-year-old Jason Gavras, who later became a close student. This unusually public Q\u0026amp;A includes further discussion of reincarnation, as well as dialogue about charlatans, karma, enlightenment, and more.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/175/594/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1677983389","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19711010VCTR3-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":4016.19588,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/175/594/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1677983389","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/175/594/original/19711010VCTR3-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3?1677983365","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":4016.19588,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711010VCTR3-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19711010VCTR3 - Radio Interview on CKGM Montreal]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=0.0,20.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTRODUCTION]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: And it's now three past the hour of eight o'clock here at CKGM FM and we're lucky enough to have with us Rinpoche in the studio. Welcome, Rinpoche, to CKGM FM.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=20.0,34.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTERVIEW PART 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Maybe for the benefit of the listeners who aren't familiar with you, would you like to perhaps tell us a bit about your background? You were born in Tibet, right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Uh huh. Then at the age of... what was it? How old were you when you were...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Eighteen months.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Eighteen months you were taken. Why don't you ex--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I was accepted as a reincarnation of my previous abbot. And then I was ordained when I was about five.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: What is the ordination?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ordination is acceptance into the path; that I was completely accepted. And I was perform my duties in terms of relating with the teaching, and relating with the people -- my people.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Now, [laughs] I know myself at five, I was totally unconscious of anything like that. At the age of five, like, were you consciously aware of what was happening?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. Very much so, yeah. I would say.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: And then you were trained to be abbot?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Abbot with very extensive trainings -- which last me until age of nineteen -- which consist of spiritual trainings in terms of studying Buddhist philosophy as well as practicing meditation at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: And then did you become abbot of the monastery?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: On age of eighteen-- age of sixteen, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=34.0,117.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTERVIEW PART 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: And then what happened when the communist Chinese arrived?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there's no particular way of continuing the teaching at all. That's because social upheaval, and there's religious persecution happened in the country. That I have decide whether I stay and surrender and become communist, or remain in the country. So I decide to leave.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: And you left for India?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Left for India, that's right. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: And how long did you spend in India?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: About four years. Which was--\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Studying--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --which was very joyful situation, because as Buddhists we are-- in Tibet, that believe that teachings and everything come from India. That we have managed, able to relate ourselves and our teachings in India -- connected with pilgrimage sort of situation. That there were a lot of historic monuments and everything; that we were Buddhists, see that where Buddha taught, and where he enlightened. All sorts situations very inspiring. I spent about four years there. And then I have decide to come to-- in this country, in the West.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=117.0,183.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTERVIEW PART 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: But you came, what, to Scotland first? No, you -- then you went to England first?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: England first, yeah. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: [laughs] And that's-- was that where you learned English? Or did you learn English before you came to England?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I have started learning in England. And I studied in four years in Oxford, studying comparative religion and all sorts of other subject connected with-- related with Western people. Comparative religion and Buddhism and other situations, that, such as like fine art -- things like that.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: And then you went to Scotland and founded a--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Samye Ling.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: --an ashram.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE] That's right, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: That's the monastery?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Monastery, or meditation center, rather.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: And how long were you in Scotland for?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I was about there about four years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=183.0,226.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTERVIEW PART 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: And then you came to the States, right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Why did you decide to come to the States? Like, had you heard anything about... the need or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, lot of my students are Americans, or people come from the States. And I've received invitations from them. And one of several groups of people of my students have decide to find suitable situation or center, similar to center that I have found in Scotland, and they would decide to do that. So it was kind of a natural process that it feels-- that whole thing feels right to come here in this country in North America.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: And you founded two centers: one in Colorado and one in Vermont?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Since then, yes. Which has been over a year now. And I feel that what's happening in this center situation is extremely healthy. And what's precisely right for the North Americans; to have some place for them to practice meditation and to hear the teachings of Buddhism according to the Tibetan teachings.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=226.0,301.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTERVIEW PART 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Obviously, there's a great demand throughout North America because I'm [laughing] noticing your calendar it's like you do more touring than a rock band! It seems you're always speaking. Like right after your three days here in-- actually five days here in Montreal, right? -- you're off to Toronto. And you've been traveling pretty extensively throughout. Is there a great thirst, do you find, in North America -- more so perhaps than almost anywhere else in the world -- for more knowledge?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think very much so. That we have people in the East, like India and Japan and China or Tibet, but from that point of view, that people become so much accustomed to their heritage that they begin to -- who were drawn up on it -- that they are not seduced by the materialism, as such. And since that people in this country have been already introduced the materialism as such, and from that basic materialistic approach doesn't tend to bring ultimate comfort, in terms of psychological or spiritually. So people looking very much to this by using the basic tendency of dissatisfaction and pain and misery -- psychological pain, psychological dissatisfaction they've discovered. And it seems this particular Western environment seems to be most ideal situation that Buddhism is right answer for that whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=301.0,388.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTERVIEW PART 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Would you like to perhaps explain, I guess as briefly as you can, what exactly Buddhism is -- what it is that you're offering people?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, Buddhism is a way of life; that you regard pain and misery, or suffering, as a way of inspiring yourself. That nothing is rejected; nothing is regarded as condemned in terms of original sin. That nobody is condemned as original sin. Such as, that people, human beings have already accepted as worthy person, because they have a basic essence of intelligence within themselves. They are worthy person and so they're positive -- people, human beings as whole.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd from that particular basic principle, that such practice as like meditation, and looking into practicing the teaching, becomes basic way of relating their life situation as sane and ordinary human being. It seems to be that a difference between the ordinary spirituality, that had been we tend to get in this country -- opposed to all sorts of \"love and light,\" \"everything's okay,\" \"everything's good,\" and all sorts of other approaches that we tend to get in this country. Which differs from Buddhist approach, is that everything's not particularly okay and alright, but that doesn't really matter at all; that if everything's not alright, that's okay, that's your stepping stone. So let's use negativity. Let's use the confusion. Let's use the negativity and frustrations as part of the path. And, which seems to be basic approach to the Buddhist approach.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: And now what is the space then? Is \"let's use it\"-- that's, as you say, a stepping stone to what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Stepping stone, I could say, towards basic sanity opposed to *insanity*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=388.0,524.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTERVIEW PART 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: [laughs] Yeah, there's no doubt at all we're all living pretty insane lives. What do you-- what would you call basic sanity? Because, actually, you know, you speak to most people today and, you know, they're sane -- they think they're sane.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think they are sane particularly.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: No, right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean, we've got businessmen and we've got very good faithful farmers and we've got very good industrialists -- everybody is doing their best. But at the same time, if they be taking off-- for instance, like, things like if the carpet has been pulled under their feet, they feel extremely painful. Because they're entering into some new unusual situation that they don't know what they're doing. They were pulled into that particular situation of-- they are pulled into complete uncertain situation, that they are confused. Which provides-- you can't dwell on any kind of ego trip of any kind of, whether you are good successful businessman, whether you are good student, or good professor -- whatever it may be. But self-- fundamentally, that they are involved with some ego trip of some kind; no doubt about that. But whole thing is, step out of that ego trip of anything involved, and find fresh and open ground; that they could approach their life situation as it is -- definitely and openly. So that they don't have to have any further conflict or further dissatisfaction of their life; but their life could be used as source of inspiration in their life situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: So I guess could we redefine insanity as anyone who's on any kind of ego trip would be insane. No matter--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: -- no matter how much subtle or exquisite--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No matter how spiritual it may be or how subtle it may be.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: You're on a-- you're insane, so it's only way--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're *insane*. Definitely, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=524.0,650.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTERVIEW PART 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: [laughs] Well folks, I guess that's all of us, practically. But the idea then is to transcend -- the idea to become sane -- is to transcend ego and realize our absolute nature. Would you say that is what sanity is, to realize one's absolute nature, unchanging eternal nature?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Absolute nature, yeah, I would say absolute nature. But, again, there's a big problem: that if you regard absolute nature is something that you seek for, something that you strive for, then you're again back to the insanity. Because that you're striving for your identity; you're trying to survive with the passion, aggression, and everything.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Could we say that absolute-- your absolute nature is just a state which exists after you've cleared out all the rubbish?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you like to call it that way, yeah. [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=650.0,697.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTERVIEW PART 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: So, [laugh] what is your technique, then, for getting to that state? It's meditation -- I know that much.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seem to be absolutely important, is that people should learn to surrender themselves to competent and experienced teacher -- \"spiritual friend\". I wouldn't call it a \"guru\" because notion of \"guru\" seem to be distorted in the West -- generally, that somebody possesses mystical knowledge. Nobody possesses mystical knowledge at all unless they are able to relate with their fellow human beings as *equals*. I would rather refer to it as a \"spiritual friend\". That that spiritual friend will relate to you as ordinary human being. And that student will refer that spiritual friend as ordinary human being as well. And by relating that ordinary human being as competent and friendly enough, that spiritual friend does not lay heavy trips of ego on you.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd from that particular basic principle, that you should be taught meditation practice with personal individual relationship of depends on psychological state of the person, and environment of person-- that where-- environmental situation where the person is at. And from there, that person could be related with it. So whole thing's very much based on that individual relationship in terms of technique or practice. That they must have some-- you can't broadcast like what we are [laughing] doing actually now; broadcast techniques, or televised techniques how to meditate. Like a lot of situations happening, like how to practice yoga in the televisions -- things like that could not happen in the teaching of meditation, as such. That it had to be individual. It cannot be mass media. It cannot-- it had to be individual approach to dealing with one person to another.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Why is this?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because that there is certain human quality in the individuals; that teachers must realize that they are not just purely public men. As well as students. They're not regarded as somebody who is-- they're relating to it as somebody who is famous, alone, but whether they could relate to their particular teacher or student as ordinary human being. Human level seem to be very important at this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=697.0,852.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTERVIEW PART 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Well, if you have an audience, say, that does not relate to the announcer on the radio as some kind of superstar; does not relate to, say, you at the moment as some kind of superstar, whatever. Then would it be possible to do it on a mass level?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. Because anybody who hear this particular broadcast must be inspired to relate to individual teacher -- individual in terms of technique and learning from it. It's very-- seems very extremely important to it.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Well, say, right now what people at home are picking up, right, is like your vibration, your vocal quality and stuff. All they're really not getting at the moment, right, is the physical look at you. If they meet you in person what they get is what they're getting now *plus* your physical presence. Now, are you saying that the physical presence is really important because people can still relate to you in an audience of 300 people as being something different to themselves, and a lot of people I'm sure do.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that it is extremely important that they should able to feel me -- if I'm going to teach them -- as human being--\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --who is actually *there*. They don't have to just listen to particular machine from that-- from there answers comes out of it. But human situation seem to be extremely important from that point of view; *extremely* important. That we cannot present the basic notion of transmission by mass media at all. It had to be related with individuals, personal relationship -- because personality of individuals. That once one teacher relate with students, their students provide so much psyche around them. As well as teacher provides so much psyche environment around them. And within that realm of environment that they could communicate properly. It could be said is similar to situation of that psychiatrist and their patients, in some sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=852.0,982.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTERVIEW PART 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Is meditation the only way in which one can refine oneself to that point of absolute awareness? Are there any other techniques which work?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Absolutely none. Meditation is *the only way* because meditation is the direct way of dealing with themselves and their neurosis. Because whole problem that we face in this country is -- or other countries which are associated with them -- basic psychological materialism is based on their neurosis, their dissatisfaction, on their pain, and their striving for pleasure. And whole thing become-- is based on neurosis, from that point of view. And from that basic point, that meditation seem to play only important part. They must learn to relate with their situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd I might raise another point from that particular situation, is that as we talk about karma. Which is that once you have basic notion of what you are -- \"I am what I am\" -- that automatically is \"what I would not be,\" \"what I would like to be\". That sets a volition action of karmic situation. That unless the person stops speeding, unless the person stop running, there's no further solution to the situation at all. That in order to relate with that situation is, a person must meditate and relate with the actual situation; and just don't do anything, and don't think anything, and just simplify yourself in simple meditation. Which provides breaking the chain reaction of karmic situation so that person doesn't get into chaotic situation at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=982.0,1106.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTERVIEW PART 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: What else is achieved by -- [noise] whoops, go ahead [laughs] -- what else is achieved through the cultivation of stillness in the body? Is there some kind of physiological change? Like all levels of awareness, right, are a physiologically supported state. Therefore I would assume that the cultivation of stillness in the body is refining one's nervous system to a point of purer perception. Is that true?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see on the whole, that we in the West, so to speak, have been mis-introduced on the whole concept of meditation, as such, at all. People have no clue to-- of-- about meditation; they're completely misinformed. Meditation is not trying to provide tranquility or equanimity of any kind, but-- meditation is not so sedative from that point of view at all. Meditation is just try to relate their situation as it is. That mankind is not *condemned*, and they have basic intelligence and basic peaceful state in themselves. In order to do that, we have to open ourselves to the practice and put ourselves into a certain discipline. And by doing that, then the person begin to let himself go. And from that particular point of view, that we begin to realize meditation not at all mental gymnastic -- which has been wrongly described. There's no magic in meditation at all. Whole practice is based on extremely practical and everyday situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=1106.0,1201.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTERVIEW PART 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Well, then what exactly happens when-- well the kind of meditation that you're teaching, is it mantra meditation or contemplating on a phrase or... ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see that's the whole point: I don't teach on anything of those subjects. Once you begin to get very exotic techniques, people begin to become more conscious of-- self-conscious of the technique rather than what they're supposed to be doing. Like, if you've been presented a very beautiful and hand-carved, with the jewels inlaid, crutches, that you'll be more conscious of that you are using that particular crutches, or sticks, walking sticks. That from that point of view, that meditation practice is not-- nothing to do with the value of the techniques as such, but based on the simplicity as whole. That they don't regard the whole technique as magical power at all -- they shouldn't.\r\n\r\n\r\nI should warn everybody that meditation is no magical technique, magical power, as such, but everybody have to work on themselves. Having used that technique diligently, that from that-- beyond that point, that people begin to develop. That there is simplicity in the technique. That they don't have to strive for it. That technique becomes part of themselves. Same as drink a cup of tea -- that becomes very close to it. So technique should be referred as part of daily life situation, rather than medicine or sedative as such.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=1201.0,1312.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTERVIEW PART 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Right, but what does it develop? What *does* meditation developed? What does it develop?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sane. Becoming sane and skillful in dealing with your daily life situations.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Okay, now *how* does it develop that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it just happens.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: But is it a physiological thing? Like how does it just happen? Is it physiological or...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would say more like psychological. And psychology of the person is related with their body situation; that people don't have actual hundred-percent physiological situation at all. Their physiological situation is based on mind-body situation. Nobody have a absolute hundred-percent physiological situation at all. They have a certain viewpoint of their own body. Their own body becomes an important point of mind-body situation -- their version of what they think of their body is like, what they think of their friends like, what they think of their houses like -- and the whole thing is because of mind-body situation. And the whole approach becomes very thorough and absolutely open. That they are able to relate with that situation of mind-body. And from that, that the person becomes more spacious and more skillful in dealing with their practical details of everyday life.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: But the physical body, right, is the instrument of the mind-body. Would you say that's true?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Physical body is... ?\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Is the instrument through which the mind-body functions on this level -- the gross anatomy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I wouldn't say exactly. There's psychological body as well as physical body that we been talking about.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Mhmm. So is-- does meditation affect all bodies, like all the bodies?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All the bodies, yeah they-- \r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Simultaneously.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --simultaneously, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=1312.0,1435.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTERVIEW PART 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Okay. I guess one more question before we open up the lines for you at home to call in and ask any questions you might have of Rinpoche. Reincarnation is a very prominent teaching it seems in Tibet. What exactly is it which dies and which reincarnates?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would say \"nothing\", to start with.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Nothing dies? Or nothing reincarnates?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there's \"something\", which is extremely mysterious. That we think we are living constantly. And if we think we're living constantly that means we're dying constantly at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That psychological attitude to it begin to die and take rebirth. [audio distortion] There's no such thing as really *living* situation, as like you have big [UNCLEAR: pike? pipe?] running through whole your life. And reincarnation is based on the principle-- I would rather call it \"rebirth\" rather than \"reincarnation\".\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's like succession of beads; that one bead leads to next bead. It's like an electricity current; that one spark of energy leads to next spark of energy. And birth takes place constantly, and death takes place constantly. So the physical birth and death is a very crude example of the whole thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: [laughs] So what is it, say, on the physical level -- when on the physical level you die, and then what is it which just takes on a new form? Is that just your mental body and your five senses or...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We could say that it's a mental body, which relates with the expectations of the future and memories of the past, which also goes on constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=1435.0,1565.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTERVIEW PART 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: So, when you were taken on by the abbot at eighteen months, when did you start remembering your past life?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, constantly when I was little had a glimpse of my past life. But they are very much glimpse of the present situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: It's just-- would it be just as if now we would have glimpses of when we were like five years old or when we were ten years old, would be pretty-- the same kind of thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Similar kind of thing, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: And are you constantly aware of-- like you constantly have glimpses? Can you recall, whenever you like, something which happened like a hundred years ago, or whatever?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it happens very spontaneously. That you can't decide to have your memory, or recollection, but it happens naturally.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Just as it would to most of us of this--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: --of this lifetime--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: --like suddenly you're doing something and suddenly something flashes in when you were three years old--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: --or twelve years old.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There was a story about Catholic children in England: child who got run over by a car in the street. And next town a child is born and child said that, \"Let's not cross this street,\" because that's where the previous things happened to his father. And child has exact memory of the whole thing, what has happened. And that situation happens constantly. I mean, there's all sorts of hundreds of evidence of reincarnation or rebirth or memory does exist and happened constantly.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: A lot of talents, like a lot of artists have composed symphonies at--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: --phenomenally young ages which is totally--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, like Mozart--\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: --right--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: -- for instance.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Right. --and Beethoven.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Beethoven, yeah sure. You could do that. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=1565.0,1674.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MUSICAL INTERLUDE]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Okay. Eight-thirty now here at CKGM FM. If you have any questions at all you'd like to ask Rinpoche. [laughs] Number to call is 931-6251, 931-6251, and Rinpoche will be asked-- answering your questions. In the meantime let's listen to some Donovan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=1674.0,1692.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[MUSIC: \"The Tinker and the Crab\" by Donovan]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=1692.0,1829.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[MUSIC: \"Went to the Gypsy\" by Bob Dylan]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=1829.0,1968.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CALLER 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: A little bit of Bobby Dylan and Donovan before that. And I think we've got a caller.\r\n\r\n\r\nHi, CKGM FM, you're on the air.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Hello, I'd like to ask you a question about is it possible to change the karma in this lifetime which was set for you by the previous?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [to radio host] Can we play it properly?\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Yeah... hang on a second. It's unbelievable we-- the phone's broken. We had them fixed earlier on this afternoon, tested it, it worked fine on the air, and now it doesn't. So, I'll tell you what, we'll just have to fake it. Alright can you ask the question again?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=1968.0,2057.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: Yeah, is it possible to change the karma in this life which was set for you by the previous?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it's extremely highly. Because you see, the karmic situation is like playing game of chess.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That you have your own situation where you are so far up this moment. And what you are going to move-- make your move on the present-- on the future situation is purely up to you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Uh huh. It's up to you, right? \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Purely up to you, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2057.0,2089.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: Uh huh. When you were talking about mind and body...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Is there anything such as spirit or soul or whatever?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I wasn't going to use \"soul\" but you-- which has certain connotations of basic ego as solidity. But spirit and body in terms of basic intelligence -- opposed to the mind and the solidity of that basic intelligence -- is the-- opposed to body.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2089.0,2122.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: Uh huh. When you die physically -- and when you die physically, clinically speaking, the way modern doctors put it, your brain continues to work for a couple of minutes. Now, what happens in this couple of minutes to you? Is this when reincarnation comes in or rebirth?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, when you are just about to depart from your body...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --and you begin to develop certain state of bewilderment. Actually, recently, my-- one of my students who died, actually last Sunday, and we had just trying to work with her and help her. And the whole process was that she was in a very severe sickness and she was involved with that particular involvement with her body extremely -- that she was intoxicated with her body. That you cannot particularly help her but precisely--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well, she was too encased in her body or in her thoughts, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2122.0,2192.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, so you have to just trying to help her in terms of creating basic general psyche around her. That lot of my students in Colorado being-- meditating with her, everybody, two of them in turns. That we would like to meditate about five minutes in one hour. That people were doing that. And that they begin to get some relationship, some basic psyche--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --in the whole process. That whole thing is based on environmental situation, is seems. That, what you put out.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Hmm. That's about all I have to say. I don't know what to say anymore. [laughs] \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Okay. Thanks a lot.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Thank you very much. Bye.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Bye bye.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Goodbye!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2192.0,2243.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CALLER 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: [laughs] By the way, the number to call at CKGM FM, if you'd to ask Rinpoche any questions at all, is 931-6251. Hi, CKGM FM you're on the air.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2243.0,2253.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: Okay, well, I'd like to ask a question relating to reincarnation, you know. Like, I've been noticing that a lot of people commit suicide, right? And I'd like to know it-- does reincarnation have to do, like, if you commit suicide you wouldn't reincarnate just the same, right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. Because they have disregard their body--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --as basic ground. And they have created some chaos--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --and they have to go through that same chaos if they decide to commit suicide. And the same thing doesn't happen because they have-- I mean, you see the whole thing is, they decide to disconnect with their *this* world--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --and the body. Which is false--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --they cannot do that. Because they have unfinished business and they have to relate with that in any case, sooner or later.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2253.0,2312.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: You mean that how much a per-- so much a person can be really, you know, really down and out with life and doesn't want to live anymore -- he can't do that. He has to live his life through.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He have to live his life. That's the whole teaching is consist of: live your life accordance with dharma.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah. But like sometimes, you know, it's really hard.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You know some people, like, they're not cursed but you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They can't escape in any way at all; they have to live their life--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --whether it's pleasant or unpleasant, they must lead their life.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It's not so hard, right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2312.0,2345.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: [laughs] So even if a person commits suicide she comes back just the same, like unfinished business, right? Would--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: So she just comes back and has to work out the same thing but in a different physical form. Is that right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Okay. Thank you very much.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Goodbye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2345.0,2367.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CALLER 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Number once again, if you have questions at all and you'd like to ask Rinpoche, is 931-6251. CKGM FM here in Montreal.\r\n\r\n\r\nOkay. Hi, FM you're on the air.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Thanks. I'd like to find out if what he's been talking about is related to what Lobsang Rampa writes in his books.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [quietly] [INAUDIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2367.0,2393.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DOUG PRINGLE: He wants to know if what you're talking about is related to what Lobsang Rampa writes about in his books. Are you familiar with Lobsang Rampa?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Now, would you consider this as a very good source of knowledge for-- well, for spiritualism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, as far as Lobsang Rampa is concerned, he is a fake.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: He's a fake?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He's fake--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I see--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --to begin with.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Because he writes under a lot of different names or something?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2393.0,2427.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, he doesn't have any spiritual experience, as such.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I see.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He didn't have any training, to begin with. And he was Irishman who was born in Dublin. And nearest to Tibet he has been is south of Italy. That he was born the son of plumber in Dublin. And he had no experience of Tibetan spirituality at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I see. So he is just a general interest, but nothing more important?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would say more of science fiction.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I see.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe he is listening to our radio tonight--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Uh, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --and he's supposedly be in Canada, in Montreal.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughs] But at the same time, nevertheless, obviously he's fake.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good [UNCLEAR: to Lobsang?] Rampa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2427.0,2478.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: Yes well that's what I wanted to know because I used to think he was really somebody.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He isn't somebody. He's nobody!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Uh huh. Thank you very much.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Goodbye Lobsang Rampa! I know where you are! [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: [laughs] Well, I guess that takes care of Lobsang Rampa. Wow. It's amazing how many people, though, are into Lobsang Rampa--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I know--\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: It's amazing how--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --it's too bad--\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: --many questions.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --it's really too bad.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: I guess he writes-- I've never read any of his stuff at all so I can't say anything, but I think he's-- obviously appeals to a lot of people. The way he writes must really have that *hook*.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Which kind of catches people because...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's too bad. It's absolute nonsense.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Yeah, because I imagine that he spreads a lot of false--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I know.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: --ideas about--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Yeah sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2478.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CALLER 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: CKGM FM. You're on the air.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [speaking in a strong fake accent] Hello, mister Indian man, you metaphysical monster, yes? I am tuned in to your wavelength tonight. Which reminds me of the time I saved, all by myself, poor little Missus [INAUDIBLE WORDS] Meta-fake, yes. The poor helpless creature was tied to the railroad tracks in the way of an oncoming steam locomotive. I tried desperately to flag it down. It was tragic. Wait... I feel it coming. Yes! There is a question for you. What is your favorite color and why?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I would like to know, tonight, what is your favorite color and why is this your favorite color, yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: My color? I have no color. My color is empty space. Hello!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Really! This is extraordinary.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hold yourself together--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --don't freak out.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: -- [UNCLEAR: yes? you're?] sounds like freaking out.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [UNCLEAR: I will?]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hold yourself together--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: --[INAUDIBLE] people who meditated all day long till they passed away last year, and they're *still* dead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2520.0,2591.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're mad!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [INAUDIBLE] you're not publishing any book. You're [UNCLEAR: the present?] This is insane of you! I mean you are one of the poetic geniuses of our time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Believe what you like.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yes, but are you afraid that young people might make fun of you, yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: No, actually I think that's your hangup. I'll tell you what. Do you mind if we kind of cut it short because I think there's a lot of people who are, you know, who have genuinely interesting questions to ask.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [INAUDIBLE WORD]--\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Anyway thanks a lot for calling. [hangs up on caller]\r\n\r\n\r\nWell... [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2591.0,2623.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [to the radio host] Turn it on--\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Nothing wrong with a bit of comedy now and then--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Turn it-- can you turn him on little bit?\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: He's off.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is he?\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Yeah, he's off.\r\n\r\n\r\nSTUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: You can say something to him--\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: You can -- something to him--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah? How would I say it? Are you listening me? Because you can't talk to me at all. I think you should get yourself together and stop freaking out. And cook your breakfast sunny side up. Goodbye!\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: [laughs] We were talking a little bit earlier on about what insanity was [laughing] and I guess someone decided to ring up and give us a living example.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2623.0,2653.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CALLER 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Hi CKGM FM, you're on the air.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Hello? I'd just like to ask one question: is what we are and everything around us, is it really illusion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think I understood that question -- where it's coming from.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Pardon me?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think I understand where that-- the question came from.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Where the question is coming from?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. An illusion? Sure. It's--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2653.0,2685.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: We are living an illusion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We are.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: And how do you come about realizing this?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Trying to realize that is illusion?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not trying to do anything with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2685.0,2698.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: Mhmm. So you're saying life is really illusion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But a beautiful one, a colorful one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: It's a beautiful illusion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Don't try to reject it but try to use it, please.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Try to use it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Um...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nothing had to be particularly real.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2698.0,2717.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: What, in your opinion, is life really?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What? What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What is *life* really?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As you said: life is illusion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2717.0,2727.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: What are we? Are we here for one purpose? To better ourselves, to become enlightened? Or are we just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely, yeah. We are here purpose of better lifetime, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Mhmm. Are-- we're not just here for the, you know, \"for the ride\" kind of thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We are not what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Are we-- it's very hard understanding each other. Are we here just for the ride? You know? I mean it-- are we just-- is this just it -- Earth?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2727.0,2763.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DOUG PRINGLE: I think he's saying is the only reason we're here just to enjoy the trip? No other reason? Or are we here to kind of evolve; here to discover the reality which casts the illusory shadow or whatever?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah, I guess... I guess that's what I mean.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems the purpose of life is just to face the reality of life as it is--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --without laying any other trips.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: What is the reality of life?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Reality of life seem to be just experiencing basic pain and pleasure as it is -- and hope and fear and so forth. And trying to use and relate with that by means of meditation practice. You should receive some mentoring as a-- actually instruction from somebody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2763.0,2817.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: Are you a realized being?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean, am I what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: A realized being. \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Same as you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Same as me? \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I'm your friend.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So I'm only realized being as much as you are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2817.0,2835.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: Or is God-- is God one with us?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: God.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who's he?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Who's he? [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: [laughing] That's a good question. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well somebody is with us: that we and ourselves with us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2835.0,2851.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: Are we God?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you like to put it that way, yeah. \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But at the same time, you could say that nobody is with us. Which is a much more stronger and much more provocative.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Okay, thank you very much.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you. Goodbye!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2851.0,2873.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTERVIEW PART 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: I think just stick, perhaps, on the question which he was asking about, you know, why are we here; what is the purpose of all this; what is the purpose of all the reincarnations? Is it just a gratification of sensual relative pleasure? You were saying it's to dig on pain and suffering and joy and happiness. It would seem to me that there has to be a state beyond all that because that's all in the relative isn't it -- up and down, happiness and sorrow?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would say yeah. I would say yeah. That there had to be some basic principle that, which relate to pain and pleasure, happy and sad; whatever happens could be related with the basic structure of the life. And when person is able to do that and with the help of some competently religious teacher who instruct him practice of meditation. And then you begin to realize that whole process becomes a direct link, rather than somebody-- you going through somebody or you going to use some religious techniques or spiritual doctrine of any kind, but you begin to relate with yourself directly. And pain and pleasure and everything becomes part of the path.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's why what we talk about \"dharma\", as we call it in the Buddhism, which is \"the law\", or \"the teaching\", is constantly permanent; that dharma is all the time *there*, constantly *there*. That you can't escape unless you-- even if you want to regress, you can't do it. It's like getting into a train which-- that you get ride on it, and train goes eternally on and on and on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2873.0,2976.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DOUG PRINGLE: Right. I think when you were saying that pain and pleasure, it's all part of the path, the word \"path\" tends to imply that one is going somewhere. One usually takes the path to a place; that place perhaps being realization or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well path is-- well the path is the game-- goal so to speak. Goal is the path. It's like, you might say, holiday trip; that when you travel some state, some situations, that you enjoy at the same time your traveling from one place to another. That the goal is path and path is the goal at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: It's one and the same thing. So the thing is to be just continually traveling the path but totally aware of what one is doing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Totally aware of what one is doing with the help of some competent teacher of meditation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2976.0,3026.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTERVIEW PART 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Right. Now, when one has reached that state of full awareness of traveling the path, many of the teachings are that then you no longer come back as such -- like you no longer take on physical form.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Teachers?\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Yeah. This is a common teaching. Certainly in the West -- anyway it's come from the East, that once you are realized, then you no longer come back in physical form.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The teacher, did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Any-- no, anyone. Anyone. This *is* a teaching that when an individual -- any individual -- becomes realized, then he no longer comes back in a physical form unless it's a-- unless he chooses to do so.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He does, yeah. Unless he chooses so, because his compassion is so overwhelming that he can't help doing that.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Automatically? Like, everybody?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Automatically, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Well, but when he comes back then, is he a realized soul?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well if you like to call it a soul.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Or realized being, whatever.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Realize, awake person. Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Okay, let's take another phone call.\r\n\r\n\r\nBy the way, in case you just tuned in, we're talking to Rinpoche who, as our caller of two calls ago, in case-- for his benefit, and maybe you don't know, he's not actually Indian but Tibetan. [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3026.0,3102.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CALLER 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Hi, CKGM FM, you're on the air.\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: Okay, thank you. Trungpa Rinpoche, I was-- I went to your talk at the Centaur Theater a couple of nights ago. And as you were talking, the way that you were there happened to me -- I think it happens to everybody sometimes. It kind of touched me in a way that I realized the things that you were saying and they all made perfect sense to me, you know. And I was like ready, you know, to jump up and ask you a lot of questions and then run out laughing or something because it was just all so clear.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd now I'm reading a book about Milarepa. And it says in the book that enlightenment or realization can be given to somebody or-- if the mind is ripe enough, I guess. Because of the karmic relations of the past lifetime an experienced yogi can touch the person, or whatever, speak to the person, and that person will become enlightened. And I was wondering if that's possible without the preparation and the prerequisite of meditation and the practice of the teachings? Can a person just be given enlightenment or realization if his mind is ripe?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3102.0,3181.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, welcome. I'm glad to hear your voice.\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: Far out! I'm glad to hear yours too.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It is far out, indeed. Isn't it? [Laughs] It's good to hear your voice.\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: Uh, you couldn't hear my voice?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It is good to hear your voice.\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: Oh, sorry... [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: [laughing]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Far out!\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: [laughing]\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: Oh, [UNCLEAR: far out? fine?], great. It's good to hear yours too.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3181.0,3204.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JASON GAVRAS: [laughing] Great.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But--\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --but come and work with me.\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: *Come* and work with us.\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: I'm planning to do that. I'm planning-- \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you--\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: --to do that very, very soon.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You are accepted as part of our family.\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: Thank you. Thank you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And--\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: [laughs] Many thanks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3204.0,3223.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, but don't get carried away; but at the same time, you have a lot of things to do.\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: I know, I know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which is a basic commitment. And the practice of meditation that you have to follow.\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Some basic principles that you have to follow. And I think what we should do is we should talk personally-- \r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --and discuss whole thing. And come down to Vermont whenever you feel like it.\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: That's what I'm doing. That's what I'm doing. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're doing that?\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: I'm doing that this weekend.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3223.0,3257.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, that's good. What's your name?\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: Oh, wow. Okay. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's your name?\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: Okay, then I have just one more question. Uh, my name-- my name? Do you want to know my name?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: My name is Paul Gavras. [Jason Paul Gavras]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Paul Gavras. Yeah. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3257.0,3276.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JASON GAVRAS: And Trungpa Rinpoche, I have a letter from a person that I don't know personally but it's a brother of a girl that I know, and he's in India now with Baba Ram Dass and the Maharaji. [Neem Karoli Baba] And he speaks about how the Maharaji doesn't practice traditional yogic practices of meditation, but rather in serving people, he teaches more the way of Christ of-- \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: *Christ*.\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: Right, of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm. \r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: --feeding people--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I never--\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: --of feeding people and doing things for other people.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: And he said that when he comes to America he's going to teach not Hatha yoga but more along the lines of Christ. And I was just wondering, you know, again that, you know, I just don't understand the practice, you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well let's--\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: --if because he doesn't teach a complete meditative way but rather constantly serving the people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3276.0,3343.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well let's work together. Let's talk together--\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --when you come down to Vermont, okay?\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: Beautiful. Beautiful.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay. You're welcome.\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: Thank you very much.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Goodbye.\r\n\r\n\r\nJASON GAVRAS: Bye.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughing] Bye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3343.0,3355.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CALLER 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Oh dear. By the way, this is CKGM FM here in Montreal with Rinpoche and the number to call if you'd like to ask Rinpoche any questions is 931-6251. Hi CKGM FM, you're on the air.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Hi Doug, Andy [UNCLEAR: Harvey? Hardy?] calling.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Hi.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: How you doing?\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3355.0,3371.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7: Good. Very interesting talk. I'd just like to ask one question: and that is has your guest ever entered the fifth level of consciousness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Level of consciousness?\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Have you entered the fifth level? Have you ever entered the fifth level of consciousness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is the fifth level?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What is? I don't know what the fifth level is. I don't even know what the fourth level is, but--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --I've been reading about it. And just wondered if you had reached that yet?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3371.0,3399.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we could say I have reached the hundredth level, a millionth level, it doesn't make any difference.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: That's very interesting because that-- it's believed that there is no level after the fifth one that is linked to the physical body, and I was wondering if you have been there can you tell us at all what it's like? \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's like? \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What is it like?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's beautiful.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Beautiful?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Can you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Welcome.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --explain a little more explicitly perhaps?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't know what you're talking about, but it's beautiful. [laughing]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3399.0,3442.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7: *Consciousness*. Can be--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Consciousness what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Right -- can be divided up into levels. Isn't that right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If it makes meditation to be good at that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well the books that I'm reading seem to promote this idea. For instance the third level of consciousness, is our particular--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --everyday life. It's called \"awake.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well that seem to be, basically, that you have to work on your own basic mind. Which could be said in level of fourth, if you like to call it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: And the fourth level is supposed to be self-transcendent which--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Is that right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. As far as I know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3442.0,3485.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7: Yeah. But nobody seems to know what happens in the fourth and fifth level.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you transcend everything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As well as your \"my\" self and the \"other\" self.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All self be trans-- transferred-- trans--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: And you say you've been there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I have been there all over the place.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah. That's very interesting.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3485.0,3507.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7: Just a very quick question now on the subject of some other books that are available such as THE GHOST OF BRIDEY MURPHY [sic: THE SEARCH FOR BRIDEY MURPHY] and book about Edgar Cayce, I believe [UNCLEAR: states body?] that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Watch out for that book.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Pardon me?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Watch out for that book.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Are they believable?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: *No*. I wouldn't say.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Mhmm. Do they fall into the same category as Lobsang Rampa?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Slightly better, but is same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, please don't.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: So you would say they don't-- they're not true?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would say they're not true. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would say they're not true.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Mhmm. Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3507.0,3553.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7: What would you recommend for a person very interested in this particular subject matter of... [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --well, try to read Milarepa.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: The what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Milarepa.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: How do you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: M-i-l-a-r-e-p-a. Milarepa.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: M-i-l-a-r-e-p-a?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. P-a, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Okay, fine. Thank you very much.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Okay, thanks, Andy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Bye bye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3553.0,3584.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: ANNOUNCEMENT]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Bye bye. For the last caller who just called in, for anybody else too, Rinpoche's not going to be in Vermont this coming weekend. You're going to be giving a seminar in Toronto, right? And for anybody who'd--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: --who are going to Toronto next weekend who-- or who would like to go down there, the number to call in Toronto is this, if you can grab yourselves a pencil: area code 416, number 920-0162.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd then you're going to be giving seminars, what, in New York, Washington D.C--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: --and in Boston. And if you'd like any information on those seminar--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And another one in Chicago.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: --and also in Chicago. So if you're going to find yourself in any of those towns in the near future and you'd like some more information you can call the Tail of the Tiger, which is Rinpoche's ashram in Vermont. And the number there is: area code 802 633-9389. That's a good number just to jot down on the wall or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: --something because--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As well as that if anybody would like to come out to my center in Boulder, which is Boulder, Colorado. And anybody in Boulder would know that my center and my connections, so anybody is welcome. If they want to meditate in the mountains please welcome and join us in Boulder. I'll be in Boulder in September fifteenth--\r\n\r\n\r\nSTUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: [quietly] November.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --onward.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: November fifteenth.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: November fifteenth, onward.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: We'll give you the number. We're here at CKGM, we'll have the number of the Tail of the Tiger. So, that's probably best to have one number, rather than about thirty. Just call one number and they'll tell you wherever Rinpoche is going to be.\r\n\r\n\r\nAlso, Rinpoche, if anybody wants to come down you've got one more day of a three day seminar happening, right? Monday? Here in Montreal? If anybody--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: --if anybody wants to come down, can they come down for one day?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it would be very concentrated thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Will be very concentrated?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: But if they want to come can they come or...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If they want, sure, they are invited, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Okay, what's the number?\r\n\r\n\r\nSTUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: [quietly] Centaur Theater.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: It's the Centaur Theater, which I think is four-five-two Saint Francois Xavier Street. Four-five-two Francois Xavier Street. And it's ten-thirty until nine at night tomorrow, for any of you who would like to go down.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Everybody's welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3584.0,3711.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CALLER 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Okay, well we'll take one more phone call because Rinpoche has to be off. Here we go.\r\n\r\n\r\nHi, CKGM FM you're on the air.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah, I read a book entitled THE THIRD EYE by Lobsang Rampa and I want to know if you know anything about this or if you could explain it?\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Were you listening a bit earlier on when Rinpoche said Lobsang Rampa was a fake?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Um, no I wasn't. I was--\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --probably waiting on the phone.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Oh, right, yeah. Well Rinpoche would you like to say anything more about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I don't think so.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Yeah. Okay, so Rinpoche says that Lobsang Rampa is a fake so I guess that there's no point in really-- in going further into... \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Oh, okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Okay?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Okay, thanks very much.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Thanks a lot for calling.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3711.0,3752.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CALLER 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Okay. I think we'll take one more question actually, I guess, okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nDOUG PRINGLE: Is that alright? As soon as Heidi gets one through. She probably thought-- oh, here we go. Hi, CKGM FM, you're on the air.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3752.0,3762.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41944/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: Yeah, what I'd like to know is: when we die does the spirit necessarily stay around the planet Earth or does it go to other places in the universe?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that depends on your relation to the whole thing and your particular practice. That, whether you're relating to the whole thing. 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Goodbye!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2643.23,2646.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/844","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DOUG PRINGLE: [laughs]\nWe were talking\na little bit earlier","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2646.48,2648.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/845","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on about what insanity was\n[laughing]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2648.97,2651.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/846","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I guess someone\ndecided to ring up","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2651.17,2652.51"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/847","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and give us\na living 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Hello?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2656.03,2658.38"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/850","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'd just like\nto ask one question:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2658.38,2661.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/851","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is what we are\nand everything around us,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2662.44,2666.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/852","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is it really illusion?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2666.89,2669.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/853","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think\nI understood that question 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An illusion? Sure. It's--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2680.56,2685.339"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/860","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5:\nWe are living an illusion?\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2685.339,2688.089"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/861","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: And how do you\ncome about realizing this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2688.089,2690.949"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/862","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Trying to\nrealize that is illusion?\nSPEAKER5: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2690.949,2694.849"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/863","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not trying\nto do anything with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2694.849,2697.709"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/864","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: Mhmm. So you're saying\nlife is really illusion?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2698.489,2701.829"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/865","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nBut a beautiful one,\na colorful one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2701.829,2705.109"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/866","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5:\nIt's a beautiful illusion?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2705.109,2706.599"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/867","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nYeah. Don't try to reject it\nbut try to use it, please.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2706.599,2711.629"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/868","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: Try to use it?\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\nSPEAKER5: Um...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2711.629,2714.509"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/869","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nNothing had to be\nparticularly real.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2714.509,2717.899"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/870","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: What, in your opinion,\nis life really?\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What? 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Goodbye!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2867.919,2871.359"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/919","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DOUG PRINGLE:\nI think just stick, perhaps,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=2873.479,2874.859"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/920","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on the question\nwhich he was asking 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Beautiful.\nBeautiful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3349.58,3350.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1089","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nOkay. You're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3350.8,3352.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1090","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JASON GAVRAS:\nThank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3352.0,3353.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1091","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Goodbye.\nJASON GAVRAS: Bye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3353.29,3354.49"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1092","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughing]\nBye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3354.49,3355.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1093","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DOUG PRINGLE:\nOh dear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3355.69,3358.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1094","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"By the way, this is CKGM FM\nhere in Montreal with Rinpoche","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3358.08,3360.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1095","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and the number to call\nif you'd like to ask Rinpoche","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3360.95,3363.21"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1096","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"any questions is\n931-6251.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3363.21,3365.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1097","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hi CKGM FM,\nyou're on the air.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3365.91,3367.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1098","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7: Hi Doug,\nAndy [UNCLEAR: Harvey? Hardy?]\ncalling.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3367.28,3369.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1099","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DOUG PRINGLE: Hi.\nSPEAKER7: How you doing?\nDOUG PRINGLE: Good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3369.88,3372.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7:\nGood. Very interesting talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3372.34,3374.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'd just like to ask\none question:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3374.02,3376.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and that is has your guest\never entered","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3376.63,3379.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the fifth level\nof consciousness?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3379.44,3383.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nLevel of consciousness?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3383.63,3384.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DOUG PRINGLE: Have you entered\nthe fifth level?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3384.89,3386.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Have you ever entered the fifth\nlevel of consciousness?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3386.13,3387.57"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nWhat is the fifth level?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3387.57,3388.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7:\nWhat is? I don't know\nwhat the fifth level is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3388.81,3391.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't even know what\nthe fourth level is, but--\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3391.39,3393.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7:\n--I've been reading about 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body,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3412.3,3415.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I was wondering\nif you have been there","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3415.77,3420.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"can you tell us\nat all what it's 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Can be--\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nConsciousness what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3443.009,3445.459"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7:\nRight --\ncan be divided up into levels.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3445.459,3447.614"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Isn't that right?\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\nSPEAKER7: Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3447.614,3451.029"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If it makes\nmeditation to be good at that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3451.029,3454.589"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7: Well the books\nthat I'm 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Right.\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3551.15,3553.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7: What would you\nrecommend for a person","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3553.6,3555.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very interested in this\nparticular subject matter of...\n[INAUDIBLE]--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3555.11,3557.185"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\nSPEAKER7: [INAUDIBLE]--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3557.185,3559.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\n--well, try to read Milarepa.\nSPEAKER7: The what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3559.09,3562.05"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Milarepa.\nSPEAKER7: How do you--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3562.05,3564.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nM-i-l-a-r-e-p-a. 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Thank you very much.\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3580.08,3582.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DOUG PRINGLE:\nOkay, thanks, Andy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3582.59,3583.79"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7: Bye bye.\nDOUG PRINGLE: Bye 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Have a good night.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3920.709,3922.07"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[MUSIC: by The Saddhu Brand]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594#t=3922.505,4007.112"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/87106/file/175594/transcript/41945/annotation/1298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/041/945/original/19711010VCTR3-Captions-ForAudio.vtt?1677990530","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/041/945/original/19711010VCTR3-Captions-ForAudio.vtt?1677990530"}]}]}]}