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Usually seen as mystical; Trungpa Rinpoche frames from psychological perspective. \"Bardo\" or \"gap\" occurs when we die, but also in everyday life, where birth and death happens constantly. Describes six realms, in one's psychology and during and after death, visions of peaceful and wrathful deities. Indicates \"book of the dead\" as more \"a book of space\", the environment containing birth and death. Discusses other approaches to death, but here more in terms of practical, meditative experience. In Q\u0026amp;A, specific guidance on how to relate with people who are dying, what to say and do, including whether to read the book to them. Defines further \"bardo thodrol\", as \"liberation by hearing,\" and opportunity it presents. How he worked with the dying from a young age, as training for life. \u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Tibetan Book of the Dead","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 06"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: TIBETAN BOOK OF THE DEAD: Commentary: The Message of the Book (edited excerpts)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-tibetan-book-of-the-dead-1540.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 6 (in contained book TIBETAN BOOK OF THE DEAD)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-380.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAug 15 2019 to Dec 14 2020 Transcribing: Nate Speare Checking: Travis May Final Proof: Matilda Perks Terminology Review: Matilda Perks Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eIntroduces actual meaning of the Tibetan Book of the Dead, \"Bardo Thodrol\", including common misconceptions about it. Usually seen as mystical; Trungpa Rinpoche frames from psychological perspective. \"Bardo\" or \"gap\" occurs when we die, but also in everyday life, where birth and death happens constantly. Describes six realms, in one's psychology and during and after death, visions of peaceful and wrathful deities. Indicates \"book of the dead\" as more \"a book of space\", the environment containing birth and death. Discusses other approaches to death, but here more in terms of practical, meditative experience. In Q\u0026amp;A, specific guidance on how to relate with people who are dying, what to say and do, including whether to read the book to them. Defines further \"bardo thodrol\", as \"liberation by hearing,\" and opportunity it presents. How he worked with the dying from a young age, as training for life.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. Seminar on The Tibetan Book of the Dead, held at Tail of the Tiger, Vermont. This will be talk number one, Introduction. Held September 24th, 1971. This is an ARP digital remaster made March, 2006.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. Seminar on The Tibetan Book of the Dead, held at Tail of the Tiger in September, 1971. This will be talk number one, the introductory lecture. September 24th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=0.0,39.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO - Recording starts mid-sentence]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --that you no doubt realize that you are getting into bardo trip -- bit scary -- it depends, I suppose. We are discussing getting into the death, as well as suspended after we die, before we come back. And not only that, but this suspension that continues in the living situation as well. And death happens in living situation as well. So that's subject that we are going to discuss.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Could you talk a bit louder, Rinpoche? We can't hear you back here. We can't hear you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=39.0,91.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'll try. And today's-- tonight's gathering, rather, is supposedly related to the purely introductory process of the whole thing. That bardo experience could become part of basic psychological makeup of ourselves. And not only that, but there are also all types of bardo experience that happens with us -- uncertainty, from the point of view of people, whether they going to-- going through process of sanity, or just they are about to flip out -- becoming mad. And such area is very subtle and very very faint, in the sense it is very minute, and very acute, on the other hand. And such experience of bardo could be seen purely in terms of that uncertainty experience -- experience of uncertainty.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=91.0,173.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Bardo\" means \"gap.\" And that possibilities of gap could be threatening to a lot of people. And it could be that you have ground to walk onto and at the same time you do not know exactly what ground you are walking on, what particular thing you are asking for, what particular thing that we are getting into. It's purely based on the psychological aspect of the whole thing. And not only that, but actual application of everyday life could bring that paranoia, that uncertainty into the problem as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=173.0,218.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So whole thing could be said in purely in terms of that this is not only message that those who are going to die, and how to deal with them, but those who are already dead, those who are already born, which happens constantly, right now. So birth and death applies to everybody at this very moment, constantly. [Laughs] It happens. One is not quite certain exactly relational situation of life: how we going to approach, how we not going to approach, should we approach or shouldn't we approach? Will this bring certainty, evidence? Firm ground to walk on or not? Nobody's going to save us. That everything's left to purely individual commitment to who we are, what we are. From that point of view, gurus, spiritual friends, could instigate such a possibility of that situation. But fundamentally, that they have no function. And they could become internalized in terms of more inquisitive way of looking at the situation. That inquisitive way of looking at situation could become their gurus. But at the same time, they could become *problematic* source of having definite confidention [sic]-- confidence in any life situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=218.0,322.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the bardo experience could be seen in all sorts of different ways. It could be seen in terms of six realms of world that we go through. Having gone through that six realms of world of our psychological state, then we have the different divinities approaching to us as they're described in The Tibetan Book of the Dead. [NOTE: at the time, the Evans-Wentz translation] That you have certain visions of certain particular herukas and deities coming to you, approaching you. In the first few weeks that peaceful divinities seen, and the last few weeks that the wrathful divinities seen. And details of divinities that happens-- presented there, is very much of what happens with us in our daily living situations. And they are not only just purely psychedelic experience or visionary thing could be seen in your death period or after-death period at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=322.0,387.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's a book written on this subject based on the psychedelic experience by Timothy Leary and the rest of the gang. [Laughter] [The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on The Tibetan Book of the Dead] But one could say such book is purely based on the guesswork. Not exactly theoretical. There's a difference between theoretical and guesswork, as we know.[Laughs] Theoretical, there's some pattern. And the guesswork is some-- you are shooting arrow in the darkness, hope somebody-- hope this arrow will kill your enemy. Although you never know that where your enemy is located. The arrow could come back on *your* head by some strange coincidence. [laughter] It's based on all sorts of things, and also in terms of psychedelic experience or LSD experiences -- and in terms of that particular attitude in the LSD experiences, I don't condemn LSD experiences, or for that matter, I don't recommend them in any extent at all. But such experience could be seen in purely terms of living situation; and if person is able to relate to with acid experience in their living situation, then it is exactly the same way as how we relate with the rest of our living situation -- is how we relate to it. And probably we'll be discussing on that subject as well on the process of seminar on The Tibetan Book of the Dead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=387.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it seems there's fundamental problem that when we refer to the subject as The Tibetan Book of the Dead, that presents us a problem. Somebody else could refer it as -- the book Bardo Thodrol -- as \"The Tibetan Book of Birth.\" It's whole thing is not based on purely *death*, as such -- but there is a different concept of death. The whole book is based on a book of space. That space contains birth and death. Space creates the environment to behave, breathe, act, accordance with environment, the oxygen, environment that happens around us. So this concept of book of the *dead* seem to be not very accurate thing at all. It's fundamental environment that happens that provides with inspiration of this particular book.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=510.0,586.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this particular book has been known, or another way to put it, geographical situation of spiritual discovery in Tibet is a maybe quite early discovery of great Tibetan teachers and their process of uncertainty of sanity and insanity. One is never quite certain whether you are actually diminishing or whether you are increasing, in terms of life situation. And a lot of people refer to this particular book of Tibetan Book of the Dead as saying that there's some connection with The Egyptian Book of the Dead, in terms of myth, in terms of the lore of dead person, how you relate with them. And that, again, doesn't seem to be particularly accurate. And the whole thing seem to miss the point: that this fundamental principle of birth and death recurring constantly in our life situation -- it seem to be the most point-- important point that we are going to discuss, that we are going to look into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=586.0,663.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Of course, in Tibet, pre-Buddhist tradition of Bon civilization contains very accurate and very visionary -- in other word, very *visual* situation -- of how to treat certain psyche that has been left behind by the dead person, rather than dealing with consciousness with the person. And this entailment of the death person, the footprint, so to speak, of, in other word, the quality of that warm seat that person has left after person is gone. The quality of that person's feeling in the environment still remains in the seat that person sat on, that kind of warm quality. The temperature that person has left behind. Of course it could be dealt with all sorts of way of looking at the situation. The psyche, in other word. The absence of the living situation. Or the living situation of the absent -- whatever you'd like to call it -- contains all the time, constantly. And it seems the Bon tradition, as well as the Egyptian tradition, that is based on their particular type of experiences based on working on the footprints and how to relate with the footprints of the person. And then, from that point of view, you relate with the people as well. That has something bearing with dealing with the person as well in terms of dying person or person who's going to leave physical or psychic situations and their living presence could have some dealings with that, which probably will come at a later part of our seminar gradually will come through that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=663.0,804.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But in the moment, the basic principle that what I'm trying to represent, trying to relate with people, is largely based on the fundamental principle or uncertainty of the sanity and insanity. And also the possibilities of visionary discoveries, of visions, all sorts of mental visions, hallucinations -- whatever you'd like to call it -- that would happen. In the process of on the way to the sanity or the way to the un-sanity, insanity, that you could discover all sorts of colorful experiences. Which comes in the Tibetan Book of the Dead in terms of five tathagatas are peaceful-wrathful vision, and the gauris are the messengers of the five tathagatas presenting themselves in all sorts of terrifying, revolting fashion -- of all sorts of different images that happens. And that's what we are trying to work. It's, in other word, the whole thing is based on another way of seeing the psychological picture of ourselves in terms of practical, meditative situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=804.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's a possibility that people might find whole subject that we are discussing, we are talking about, is very irritating. Because it is too close to our hearts. That there's a constant struggle, that we don't want to end up being insane person in the loony bins. There again that what we are trying to do is look into possibilities of ending up in loony bin. But on the other hand, possibilities of ending up in situation of the absence of loony bin. Two possibilities are very precise and very faint. In any case, both possibilities presents us thought-provoking situations.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe should stop there, I think, tonight. We could have discussions if you feel like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=900.0,986.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: How do you say loony bin in Tibetan? [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=986.0,1004.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILA KALLMAN: What makes one person go insane and another one not -- going on the same journey?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it depends on how fascinated the person is, I suppose, and *fear* of uncertainty. In other word, if person put more defensive mechanism in his state of mind, and seals off possibilities of ending up in loony bin, then person is asking for it.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILA KALLMAN: That's the same thing as with an acid trip, which I have never taken, but that I have heard if you are afraid or if the defenses are up, if your ego defenses are up, then you are in a bad way, and make a bad trip.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, any situation -- it doesn't matter about acid alone -- but any kind of situation brings that possibilities. In other word, if you trying to seal off something that you don't want. Which means that you need more energy to seal them off, and you're putting that energy on the negative aspect of that... the positive -- you're putting the energy toward the negative aspect of that positive. So when you build more of negative possibilities of hopeful situation -- negativity -- that much positivities you built up. So you end up by being-- end up loony bin.[laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=1004.0,1120.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: How do you feel about not sealing off but, like, taking it slow? You know, like, the opening is there, but instead of just, you know, you go-- doing it real quick, like--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quick?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: -- like taking your time about it, rather than just completely going into that opening. You know?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, if you regard the whole thing as a game or sedative then you are doing the same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I don't know what you mean by \"sedative\".\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In terms of that by doing that would cure the rest of the problems.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But by going slowly you might side-step some of the problems that you might have by just leaping in.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Possibilities of either ways. Whole thing is treated as a treatment of any kind, then you are asking for it. If you're asking for treatment, that automatically means you don't have to be badly sick. But on the other hand, exactly the same way, that you regard yourself as sick man because you're working in terms of treatment, which is you are automatically admitting yourself into the hospital.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: The situation that you are describing in doing that is like a very chaotic situation, right? [INAUDIBLE WORDS] It would seem that then it would almost be something to be seeked out because if you could work your way through it, you could communicate with people who were in the same position.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I wouldn't be trying to be too adventurous.[Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: How do you develop courage unless you face a really dangerous situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't have to jump yourself into loony bin, just purely sake of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=1120.0,1266.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: It seems that the book, even if it doesn't necessarily refer to *that* situation, everything you said also seems to refer to a particular crisis of some kind. I mean, it's not just any ordinary moment, and maybe there is a... Does it mean that there is a crisis in every particular moment, or is it some particular critical aspect which is in play here? I mean, it seems to focus\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well that's the whole point. That in other word, that whole thing of studying on the process of bardo, which is described as \"Bardo Thodrol\" which means: \"bardo\" means \"intermediary state of mind\"; \"thodrol\" means \"liberation by hearing.\" You are liberated by hearing the teaching, as been presented. That gives us tremendous chance of seeing the whole situation. That it is not purely based on that there is somebody gives you a trick or magical strategy, as such. But when you hear this such thing, when you hear the doctrine, so to speak, which relates with the actual living situation; purely by hearing, that you could come to certain conclusions which means that there is already living situation present to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=1266.0,1398.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: If the situation that is presented to you-- what I can't see is, that book should be said, \"The Tibetan Book of the *Live* Ones\" -- not the *dead* ones. Because everything that's-- I read the book, and everything that it says there, that if we would do these things while we're *alive* so we would have much less of a problem of how to die. Because that's our regular everyday life, right in that book.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, exactly. You are quite right.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: We ought to change the name of the book, that’s all. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. We are not assembling here a group of dead people. Everybody's alive here, I hope. So that's what we are doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=1398.0,1455.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Does the book have any value to being read over a person who wasn't a Buddhist or who had any knowledge of it? Simply a handy dead person? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's-- \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: [INAUDIBLE] just a person around and with nothing else to do?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That’s dependent on the environment as well, how a person is able to relate with it. In other word, if the reader able to see the whole process is happened on himself--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Spoken-- I mean, it's just a situation where there’s a book and there’s a dead person, there’s a person to read to, should he do it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you could relate with that person in a certain way -- any case, altogether. Because that person created a situation of death for a living person. As far as a living person is concerned, that's living experience. So we could say it's a book of living -- book of birth rather than living: \"Tibetan Book of the Birth\". [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Could you do a--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Natural birth. [laughter] Natural childbirth. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=1455.0,1546.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Are you able to do anything with a person that's in this state as that he has no knowledge of any of these ideas and he has his set ways--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --and then he says to-- he says, \"I want to remain alive now. I'll do anything.\" But he don't mean it! He just will go. Now, can you do anything with a person like that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sure, yeah. The first thing -- do you know what the first thing is? To tell the person, \"you are going to die.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: But he's trying to evade death.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There’s his chance. There is your chance. Tell the person, \"You are dying. Actually dying. Doctors don't find any way of saving you and we all are prepared for you. You are going to die.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: That's just what he don't want to hear! [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He invite such statement because he suspect something. Which has been happening all the time in life; that you suspect something but you don't want to hear it. At least, at last, if somebody said the thing, the basic truth, that is really *beautiful*. That is a jewel presented in the person's hand. That finally, we know you are-- we know what's your secret. And, \"I know your secret, this is your secret. You are dying.\" First way of communicating to a person. That's very beautiful. That's most compassionate thing to do -- you can do. The best gift you can give to a person. And the same thing could be said that if someone is freaking out, say, \"You are freaking out. We all know you're freaking out. [Laughter] You are. [Laughter] You can't hide anything. You are actually freaking out.\" [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: In other words, not to go around the bush. Just to admit it, just to say it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's what's known as the ultimate truth, that we been talking about. We been building up so much big deal about the *truth*. Somebody's preaching truth. Somebody's teaching the word of the gods or the word of the lord. Teaching the truth. That *is* truth. Truth of the living situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nAny more questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=1546.0,1718.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: What would you say next after saying, \"you're dying\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you don't bombard with him-- with that to the person, but you should wait for the person's response to it. And there will be some organic reactions from the person, real reactions from the person. And that's beautiful chance for you to work relate with it. I mean, you don't say, \"You are dying, therefore, you should do this and this and this,\" but you just say, \"You are dying,\" and then you relate with the person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=1718.0,1759.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Is the book used as a text in Tibet from which you would teach as a young lama?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like myself, that I had constant opportunities of watching people dying every week. And, in fact, we had to keep our flashlight and pack our things in case of somebody's dying -- every night. That you'd always suspect there would be somebody calling up you, \"somebody's dying.\" And, since age of eight, I witnessed every week a dying person, a death person. And I been, you know, trained from that way. And from that particular young age, seeing death person, dying person, makes tremendous training. You actually learn to face your whole life.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt seems a bit unfortunate in the West, particularly in America, there's no butcher shops. Everything's been packaged in the supermarkets. You can't see actual meat. You can't see the butchers sawing the bones and giving you naked, raw, rugged bone meat to you. Whole thing's been so concealed, including death; that people be dressed up, made makeups and all sorts of things. It's really unfortunate situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=1759.0,1871.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: There's a-- I had someone -- a friend of mine, and he-- and just I says I'm coming here to on this, he says, \"Look at the letter I received this morning.\" There's a fellow a man with tobacco with smoking. He don't want to go to the hospital. And he wants to aggravate his wife and kids, and they're all aggravated, he's bedridden, and he's still the boss of the house. So I told this friend of mine, I says, \"all you gotta do is just read him some of this bardo and force him to listen.\" And that's the Western situation. They just-- they do just the *opposite* of the training.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=1871.0,1915.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: It's a rule in most hospitals that you never tell a patient that they're dying.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE. I know. I remember when I was in hospital, at the corridor there are a lot of flowers, suddenly [laughter] -- particular morning. And I was asking the nurse who those flowers for? What happened? And she said, \"Oh, it's nothing, it's just belong to our ex-patient -- ex-patient.\" [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: It was a very unfaithful patient.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILA KALLMAN: It's like they say, \"somebody passed away,\" they don't say \"he died.\" They say \"passed away.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Passed away\" -- euphemism, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILA KALLMAN: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=1915.0,1973.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: But even the situation here, there's a part of me that has a great fear, and that's dying in a hospital. And I can't think of a worse situation -- it's so damn impersonal. I mean, you know, like--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if somebody relate with them, then it would be more personal.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Yeah, but I mean, it's not like home or...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean, that’s saying that, \"you are going to be okay,\" that \"we are around you.\" It's really the last possible way of un-communication. That nobody tell you the final truth. And it's such a terrible rejection, including husband and wives do to each other. It's really terrible rejection; not admitting his body-- he's going to leave his body, but \"we still love you.\" As though it's saying that, \"we love your body, therefore, let's forget the whole thing. Nothing matters.\" It's a really terrible thing, it's really finally a rejection, people have so much guts to go as far as that, to not face, not able to really relate with the situations. Which automatically portrays that nobody's really willing to help the state of mind of the person at all. That happens constantly, all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: We even have whole communities set up like that. About two years ago, I went down to Miami Beach and -- which is a community where New York young, successful executives send their parents to die; it’s similar in [INAUDIBLE]. they had hotels and I stayed in, and there's hotels full of these people, I think, who are the youngest people there are [INAUDIBLE]. Even in that situation, you have, you know, there's no pure escaping from, you know, the time of life that they're in. I think they're, you know, like, still \"everything is ok.\" \"We're all having a good time.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=1973.0,2117.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARK: Rinpoche? I find another problem in relating to Western-- especially, you know, older generation people, like my parents. Just actually how to explain in a really living situation, with no mystical bull, like, so you die-- I mean, the conception that when you die, that's the end of it. You know? They really think that. In other words, they never let themselves think that what, you know, like, what you just said, you leave your body. In other words, there's nothing else there happening. There's really nothing else there; you die and that's it. And that's why they're all-- they-- I don't know if it's just a skillful use of words or it's a really heart kind of communication that a person when he really accepts the fact that he's going to die, he will be open to that. Do you understand that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seem that fundamental rejection of love. The communication with husbands, wives, or communication with parents and children are much more subtle than purely bodily situation, hugging them or kissing them, but there's some fundamental communication that goes on, psychologically, spiritually in other word. And it's abandoning all that possibilities of there could be higher communication could involved. That whole communication is purely based on the money, luxury, or bodily communication, but there's no further communication in terms of creating an environment that the other person could walk into; that you're welcome in environment or warmth, that other person could be enveloped into that warmth, and united with.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARK: Well, I follow that and I-- in a sense I've had that with my particular parents, where they *are* open. You know? I mean, I've been talking to them on and off for like six years about different things that go on with me. And one of the things that I really can't explain to a, you know, intelligent, Jewish, you know, parent, is that there's something else! [laughter] There's something else that's going on right now that doesn't die! In other words, it’s that there *is* something happening! Not that you're going to heaven and hell, but that there's something else happening, it's very obvious, if you just, you know, you wake up in the morning and it's there. And when you're asleep it's there. I mean, to really *explain* that, I don't know how to do that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, somehow that, suspect automatically, that there wasn't enough faith in the psyche of the person because that confuses them. So safe thing is to relate with is only bodily situations of the person. That happens constantly, all the time. It seems that what we are doing here, in our community around here, that we regard the psyche of the person as the *real* person. Whereas the body of the person is just the body. That seem to be outstanding difference between relating with people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=2117.0,2337.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JEREMY HAYWARD: But doesn’t isn't that also rather an escape? I mean, it seems to me that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is an escape?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JEREMY HAYWARD: Well, to believe that there's something else. I mean, not that I deny that there's something else, but it seems to me that one of the fundamental problems is that we don't believe we're going to die. I mean, we kind of-- I mean, if we *did really* believe we were going to die, [laughter] there's a tremendous fear. [Laughter] At least there is with me anyway. When I really, if I really try to really think about the fact that I'm going to die, I can't because I begin to get afraid. So that's the opposite direction from saying, \"well, of course there is something else and if we talk about it enough we'll convince ourselves.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's true, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JEREMY HAYWARD: So how do you go into the fear? How do you get into that while we're alive without actually killing ourselves? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, your body's going down and down and down. But your fear is going up and up and up. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JEREMY HAYWARD: That's true, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's some contradiction, isn't there?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JEREMY HAYWARD: No, I don't think so.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If your body's going to die and down and down and down -- you're losing your sense and everything -- then your fear must be go down as well. You must die your fear, you must die your emotions. But that doesn't happen.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: No. That's true.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So there's some fundamental energy is haunting you.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [Inaudible whispering] [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's very spooky. It's very spooky.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=2337.0,2462.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: I have a question. Can you remember anything from when you were dead?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: When I was dead? [laughter] When? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Well you told me that you were an eleventh carnation-- incarnation. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I really don't remember, to tell you the truth. But I had some possibilities of such situations. I don't know whether I was too involved with watching other people dying, or whether it is my own experience of death. That I could very vividly imagine some kind of death process of physical functions dying and dying very slowly. But there's some intelligence working and watching yourself dying. And when you're in a state of bardo there is a half, sort of, half consciousness, which hovers around like full moon light -- like walking in the full moon light -- is happening. But it seems somehow, such evidence of saying that somebody who came back from deathbed and seeing that his process, his death-dying process, doesn't seem to be the *point* to prove -- that seem to be attaching to the wrong end. So I don't remember anything. I can imagine as much as you could.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=2462.0,2567.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Does a person's evolutionary state allow him to accept or not accept this concept that we're discussing now? Is that the...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's not a question of acceptance, but it becomes obvious.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: --intuitive--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: -- obvious, obvious in situation that happens, naturally. Obviously, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: So, is what we were talking about in Mark's case, perhaps his parents haven't evolved to a point where they can intuitively feel this or accept this fact?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Intuitively. Yes, I would say, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=2567.0,2603.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Is it only in the West that dying or being crippled in some way is considered be-- it's considered bad taste? Now, you take a person that's terminally ill and the family will end up fully resenting that person. You know, like, it's very bad taste to have to have, you know, it's considered, you know, \"you really haven't behaved quite correctly. Here you are dying in front of us slowly, instead of, you know, quickly of a heart attack or something *neat.*\" I mean, the only acceptable death in the West seems to be a neat, quick one, that doesn't inconvenience anybody. And the only people we like to look at are handsome, or you know, \"whole\" people. We don't like to look at anybody-- any type of deformity at all. And it's considered very-- the person who would actually show such a thing is considered to be in bad taste; they should hide away somewhere. This seems to be, you know, permeate our culture. Is that a condition of mankind, or is that just a condition of the Western culture?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I'm sure that condition of the Western culture is a crescendo of the basic human instinct. That you want to *hide* something. Whereas in the East, people have been taught, spiritually, that death is ok, but they secretly would like to have convenient death. I'm sure there's nothing particularly Western about that at all. It's universal quality of the secretness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: It's really then right down to something with ego--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: -- always, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: -- ego-mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I think so, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=2603.0,2706.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Rinpoche, if a teacher who goes through the process with the person who is deceased, does he consciously go through those stages? Or they're just physical indications of when to read a certain section? Because in the book it says that certain people go from one stage to another stage during the length of a meal, while someone who is not evolved karmically enough will take the snap of a finger. How does the teacher know that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there-- that's something kind of sensitive -- training from meditation. I mean, that doesn't purely apply to the death person at all. It purely apply to the-- doesn't have to be teacher, but advanced students could feel that same way, that when I talk to you, whether you are really there, whether you are not really there -- it's obvious, you know? It's like a person will be able to check their meditation experiences, not say anything about meditating together. That kind of experience. And it could happen right at that point, that very moment. [Laughs; laughter] It's kind of [whispering] \"shooooooo,\" [laughter] and you have environment of, sort of creative environment created by the other person as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=2706.0,2802.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Were you ever called up on a case where they were resentful to you?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: When they die?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Never. Because the cultural situation accept it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Oh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But I haven't witnessed any of the birth-- any of the, rather, death of Western person at all. And the birth has been regarded as a joyous thing. I've been invited several times watching birth. But no one invites me for watching death. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Yes - I do!\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You do? I'll be there [UNCLEAR: right beside you?]. [Laughter] Okay. Okay. I'll be there. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Thanks.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=2802.0,2877.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS PART 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well friends, I think we might should end tonight. And you would have enough of our discussion or talk. Has anyone read the Tibetan Book of the Dead? Can you raise your hands? How many people read the Tibetan Book of the Dead? Well, it might be worthwhile reading a little bit more, if you have books around here. And read together.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd there have been lot of things are inaccurate in the Tibetan Book of the Dead -- made too mysterious, too mystical. We could work on that on the process of discussion in our talk. Which will benefit for the other people who read it as well. And as well as that, that I hope to publish our seminar in terms of book form so other people could hear it -- the discussions and the talks, which will help other people as well. So what might be necessary to try to go through the book. If those of you haven't read it, just go through it and ask questions as much as possible. 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And yet this was one of the most profound relationships of my life. It's a man I lived with for many years, and I haven't grieved. So this is-- sometimes I sit and wonder if I'm repressing his death. I don't think so, because I-- you know exactly-- I mean, I was there, the moment, you know, the moment he died, and I can recapture that whole experience. So I don't think I'm repressing it, but I wonder where is my feeling? Because I haven't grieved. I haven't sat once and wept, or-- there's just been no grief at all -- nothing! And, so this is my question: do you think that I've repressed it, or that... ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or that... ?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Or that somehow, I just, that it's worked itself out somehow? 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In other word, your own version of that person is the only criteria, the only guideline that you have. And I want you to be very faithful to that -- one's own version of that person. And by doing that properly, faithfully, without any other trips, then there's a possibility. Because then the other person, if the dead person is in state of bardo, can only relate with you, because you are predictable in that case. Otherwise, if you are hovering around in the different areas of beyond situations of any kind, that other person begin to find it very unpredictable and very un-secure. So, like anything else in terms of any other teachings, that, remain predictable as what you are; relate with your own version of that person. And that seem to be quite simple.\r\n\r\n\r\nHmmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: But I haven't grieved, you see, that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Doesn't matter about that, you don't have to do anything extra.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: But that's it, I didn't! And I somehow feel that maybe I was supposed to or something, you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: -- you can remain what you are. That's ok; you don't have to put extra things. That's ok, it seems. [laughter] I hope. What I'm telling you-- asking-- telling you-- answering you is, I made it up as you asked me questions, from my basic kind of rationalization of the teachings -- the trainings -- that's all. I mean, if somebody else could tell you the better than I could, if somebody's on psychic trip or whatever it may be. But that remains unknown. So in order to make whole discussion and whole process as safe and secure is, I can only relate with my rationale of my own state of being as well as my partial understanding of you as what you are. And that way I can help. You see, that's the whole thing is; whole teaching goes that way. Somebody relate with their rationale, their own fundamental sanity. And a person can't help beyond that. It goes all without saying.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=3031.0,3348.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I read that the Tibetan women, one year later, exactly one year later, they just take a piece of paper and they tear it up, and then they can just get married again -- exactly one year from the date.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean the previous marriage?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: From the marriage, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: If the husband passed on. [Laughter] They just tear the piece of paper. [Laughter] I read that in the Tibetan Book of the Dead.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Did you? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I thought, \"That's a practical idea!\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good for Evans-Wentz [laughter] -- wherever he is now.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: He went -- he \"Wentz!\" [Audience groans]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He could be attending our seminar, you know? He could. No doubt about that. Possibility.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=3348.0,3435.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Do you think any of the footnotes are worth reading? You said something about that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so, actually. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: But most of the book is footnotes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I know. That's the problem. [Laughter] That's the problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: He said that a book is a five year work, and that somebody will come along to improve it sooner or later. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He's right. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=3435.0,3473.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62522/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS PART 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well friends, I think we should close our meeting tonight.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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Tiger,\nVermont.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=7.29,10.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62523/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This will be talk number one,\nIntroduction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=10.01,12.21"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62523/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Held September 24th, 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I'll do anything.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=1559.263,1563.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62523/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But he don't mean it!\nHe just will go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703#t=1563.63,1569.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115835/file/219703/transcript/62523/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, can you do anything\nwith a person like 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