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Nontheistic presentations of dharma, rather than \"ten commandments\" approach. Sutras the result of \"meeting points\" between the Buddha and his disciples, involving the disciples' participation. Traces development of different kinds of sutras during phases of Buddha's life, in keeping with disciples' understanding. Not \"lectures\", but interactions between the Buddha and monks, laypeople, bodhisattvas. Three types: discourses, conversations, \"gathas\" or poems. 108 volumes in all, three subject categories: morality, meditation practice, metaphysical understanding. Sutras designed to inspire questioning and exploration rather than imparting final knowledge. In Q\u0026amp;A, how to approach reading the sutras as part of one's path.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMar 05 2020 to Dec 30 2021 Transcribing: Leandra Ziegler Checking: Sophie Perks Final Proof: Ella Milligan Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA substantive, clear presentation of what the \"sutras\" are, the original teachings of the Buddha as set down during his lifetime. Nontheistic presentations of dharma, rather than \"ten commandments\" approach. Sutras the result of \"meeting points\" between the Buddha and his disciples, involving the disciples' participation. Traces development of different kinds of sutras during phases of Buddha's life, in keeping with disciples' understanding. Not \"lectures\", but interactions between the Buddha and monks, laypeople, bodhisattvas. Three types: discourses, conversations, \"gathas\" or poems. 108 volumes in all, three subject categories: morality, meditation practice, metaphysical understanding. Sutras designed to inspire questioning and exploration rather than imparting final knowledge. In Q\u0026amp;A, how to approach reading the sutras as part of one's path.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/564/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759346348","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20251001-2006876-pd0df6.mpga"]},"duration":3449.44325,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/564/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759346348","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/293/564/original/open-uri20251001-2006876-pd0df6.mpga?1759343469","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3449.44325,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730301VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19730301VCTR1 - University of Colorado - Boulder - Spring 1973 - Class 5]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, University of Colorado classes, 1973. This is class number five, Comparative Studies of the Sutras, held March 1st, 1973. This is an ARP digital remaster made December, 2006.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=0.0,26.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: LECTURE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Comparative studies of sutras. In this particular context we are studying the subtleties of communication between the Buddha and his disciples. And it's more likely the differences between the magical power and message, divine message, coming down and overpower the audience, and the audience consequently become either destroyed because of their lack of faith or they be converted into because their extreme faith. That seem to be the general simpleminded pattern. That any kind of divine approach or any kind of \"darshan\" or \"watching divine presence\" or divine person-- personage manifest himself as a living human being, or whatever, that there is expectation in the simpleminded, ordinary idea that either you are completely transformed or you are completely destroyed if you are heretic or non-believer of their particular faith, their particular divine teacher. That seem to be the general approach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=26.0,167.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But in this case when we talk about sutras it is question of something quite different from that. It is *again* nontheistic approach of delivering the truth -- sutra. \"Sutra\" is a word which means \"meeting point\" or \"junction\", where the teacher and students were brought together and play together. So from a Buddhist point of view of darshan or divine presence-- displaying of divine presence, is concerned, it is question of accurate communication, in which that, in fact, the audience speak for themselves through the Buddha. As far as historical Buddha is concerned that, again, the same thing, the audience have their certain, particular development of their state of being, certain levels of enlightenment, and they open themselves and project their openness to the Buddha and the Buddha then begin to, in turn, project it back in terms of clear perception So that's the basic idea of a sutra, fundamentally, which is quite different from any kind of magical display that does exist in the conventional idea of message was given.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=167.0,305.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In this particular sutra that sutra is sayings of Buddha which were recorded. And those sayings of Buddha are from the time of enlightenment and middle part of his life and towards the end of his life. They follow a certain pattern because people have a very primitive understanding of spirituality at the beginning, and then they become more sophisticated in his teaching as they grow up, as Buddha become aged himself. And towards the end of his life then people are highly developed, and so the subtle teachings were given. Which is, again, the audience doing, rather than he is particular strategizing, planning, popularity of his teaching. And the sutras are never given as lectures, as such, but it was just an informal conversation with the community of monks and the lay devotees and bodhisattvas and gods and so forth who took part in his teaching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=305.0,429.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That sutra is usually comprised of different categories. Sutra, or the teachings of Buddha, were presented as a discourse, or it is presented as a conversation, or it is presented as a recital form of short phrases like poem-like thing which is known as \"gatha\". And then there is the teachings were also presented, not by the Buddha himself, but the teachings were presented by the disciples having conversation. In which that Buddha had created a general environment in which that they could discuss fine point of philosophy of the teaching. So we have different types of those in the Buddha's sutras. Such as like the Heart Sutra for instance, is that Buddha created a situation in which that Shariputra and Avalokiteshvara were able to discuss the meaning of prajnaparamita. That he created the mother principle, mother earth principle, environment, and within that environment that they were able to discuss. And still that is regarded as a teaching of the Buddha, and it is regarded as a sutra.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=429.0,573.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then you have such as like certain other sutras, Samadhiraja Sutra or Vajracchedika Sutra, and these others are largely sayings of Buddha, alternating in the scriptures, alternating prose, and gathas. And the meaning of \"gathas\" or the \"poems\" are way to lift up heart of the audience, so that the audience able to catch the sense of feeling rather than purely the logic alone. And the meaning of the prose is everything is discussed and questioned and scientifically worked out through. And having worked out scientifically then you stop at some point, you have short verses of poems, composed spontaneously on the spot, and people were able to get into some form of feeling, actual definite atmosphere where the teaching is composing or teaching is presenting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=573.0,671.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And on the whole the sutras are divided into two categories, all the sutras are divided in two types of sutras, two types of categories. The first one is called \"literal meaning\". The literal meaning. Which is such as you have the four noble truths, eightfold path, and the life is suffering. In order to realize suffer you have to find the origin, and having found the origin then you find the goal, in order to strive towards the goal you have to find the path, and so forth. It's a factual kind of situation, literal-minded, which is-- was delivered at the early part of Buddha's life, literal meaning. Which is closely associated with that of the hinayana school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=671.0,732.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you also have meditation instructions that presented in the hinayana school. The Sutra of Satipatthana and other sutras are connected with describing literally how you could become mindful, very literal. There's no particularly philosophically implication behind it at all. Just sit, and feel your body, feel your breath, and take note all those things happening within your body and mind. If you feel agitated, angry, regard it as another thought. Go on, go on that way, simplified everything. Literal meaning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=732.0,819.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And also the another literal approach is that of the consequences of karma. \"If you did that this is going to happen, if you do this this is going to happen. The aggression leads you to realm of hell, the pride leads you realm of gods,\" and so forth. That's very literal, direct, simple version.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=819.0,849.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the other one, categories of sutra, is that of-- it's called \"straightforward meaning\". The literal and the straightforward are the two types. And when you have the straightforward type of teaching that is again another form of simplification, another form of simplicity. That duality needn't exist -- because it doesn't. And things doesn't exist, because there are no such thing as existence at all. Ego doesn't exist, because we try to prove its existence, therefore there must be some flaw in trying to prove its existence. It's very logical and very literal and very simple, simpleminded approach again of different type. May be extraordinarily sophisticated from our point of view, but from Buddha's point of view it's -- still -- sort of kindergarten level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=849.0,942.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And such sutras we have are the sutras connected with mahayana Buddhism, what's called \"straightforward sutras\", \"straightforward meaning sutras\". That is Prajnaparamita Sutras of all kinds including Heart Sutra and Diamond Sutra, Lankavatara Sutra, and so forth. That those sutras have a very simple approach. Particularly it is extremely simple if you hear it being said to you. But if you read it, it is extremely complicated. So generally sutras are designed to be heard -- rather than to be read. It is the lectures or the talks that Buddha gave were recorded, so that idea is being that you catch the vibes, so to speak, as well as the meaning as you-- it is be read as be said. But once it's easily recorded then it is become a philosophical testimony of some kind in which that you trying to match the logic of the first sentence of the second sentence, first paragraph to the second paragraph. And one tend to lose the logic of it. But at the same time, that doesn't mean to say it is illogical at all. The whole process or the lineal process of the sutras are extremely logical, extremely subtle. Its subtleness is in the simplicity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=942.0,1065.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So this is the equivalent of a Bible in the Buddhist tradition, is the sutras, sayings of Buddha. And there are 108 volumes of sutras; are divided into categories of three types of categories. Is first one is connected with the morality, second one is connected with meditation practice and a basic understanding, and third one is a metaphysical understanding, or in other word, the geography of samsara and nirvana -- is much more subtler one. First one is in the teaching how to behave in the very simple way, in a hinayana kind of way. And the second one is connected with how to experience life. And the third one is being how to sharpen intellect. So these are called \"Three Tripitaka\", \"Tripitaka\", which means \"Three Baskets\". \"Pitika\" is-- or \"deno\" in Tibetan which means \"container\", like basket, in which that your life situation could be placed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=1065.0,1216.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The one of the interesting way that it is referred it as \"container\", rather than what contained, is extraordinary interesting one, which is another aspect of sutra. Is that if the sutra is-- was given as completely, absolutely true, and nobody has a chance to reject or accept, then it had to be the contain-- what contained. But sutra is given as just framework of reference in which that you have to make best of the sutras, rather than that you are accepting as God's command as such at all. So the reason why the analogy of using as a basket is opposed to Ten Commandments, or whatever commandment you have, is not absolutely cut and dry at all. It's that which could contain your life and you could accommodate yourself in it. You could accommodate yourself in the discipline framework and intellectual framework and intuitive framework of mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=1216.0,1301.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And often the degenerated or dogmatic school of Buddhism, later schools were developed, which talks about the word of Buddha cannot be challenged or questioned. But the earliest part of Buddhist development that does exist in the Buddhist development referred the teaching as something that could raise a point, rather than purely rejected or accepted. You could raise a point. In other word your mind is sharpened, woken up enough. So that your mind begins quiver around, begin to question some certain things be said, whether it is true or not. And then your mind could begin to stimulate itself by sharpening its intelligent with doubt, quite possibly, at the beginning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=1301.0,1367.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then doubt begin to become food for doubt, embryonic doubt. Because soon as you begin to have some kind of doubt, the doubt contains some kind of feeling of some possibilities of there may be something other than what you're experiencing. So therefore the sutras or the basic teaching of Buddha are designed to develop basic question, rather than completely answering everything cut and dry. Presenting basic question, then you begin to work on it. That's why it is called \"confluence\" -- otherwise you can't have confluence of two rivers running. The other river is a river of doubt, the other river is a river of the clarity of the teaching, and they both meet and make big river and finally makes gigantic ocean.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=1367.0,1443.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In fact in the last turning, wheel of doctrine of Buddha's-- the last part of his teaching, he talks about even the faith itself could be questionable or the nirvana could be questionable; attachment to Buddha and his teaching is also obstacle. Which is one of the last statement of that there is sharpening intelligence of the people and allowing people's critical attitude to develop and sharpened. So that there's no unnecessary rest were given. It constantly be worked, worked and studied, looked into, looked at. It's like churning of milk, finally becomes butter. I think that's one of the important point of the sutras or the bibles of Buddhism, is not accepted as a commandment but as a way of sharpening intelligence and way of life of people's attitude to their own life. So that they could create their own rules. They come to certain conclusion, some basic, common sense begin to develop. That this is obviously a sane thing to do, this is obviously insane thing to do, think to take yourself away to certain situation like this or that is providing self-existing guidance. It seem to be one of the basic point of comparative sutras.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have discussions on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=1443.0,1590.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, did you say that the two different branches of sutras that you just labeled correspond to the development of hinayana and then mahayana? Or is that not valid?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, it's first one is somewhat hinayana, but the second part of the development of literal meaning develops into straightforward meaning; there is also element of hinayana in it as well. But that's kind of way hinayana ends -- rather than hinayana is completely contained in the one block and mahayana is another one. I mean the second one, the straightforward one, is really full of riddles or paradoxes. Which also begin to happen in the hinayana teaching as well which begin to develop towards the end of hinayana's phase of sutras. There is all kinds of things, like you have in the abhidharma, talks about something like \"kill your father, enslave your mother\" and so forth, so forth -- it's almost tantric. But that's kind of approaching towards the straightforward meaning. So there is that tendency, gradually swinging towards -- other than the literal meaning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=1590.0,1703.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, did you say that-- are you opposing straightforward to simple? Are you saying that the first group of sutras is simple and the next one which is full of paradoxes is straightforward?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, paradox seems to be straightforward.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Could you help us on that point?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the paradox is to see that when we say \"things do exist,\" that we are using that logic from the point of view of things *may not* exist, therefore we can say \"things do exist.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: That's the first one?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's the-- that's paradox. In other word, that the criteria of truth is based on a lie -- otherwise you can't tell the truth. Which is seems to be, you know, opposite. How could be truth could be lie, lie could be truth? But they're interdependent. It's in other word that not being afraid to present the dark side of it or the confused side of it. In fact by using that material of confusion then you can present such a much more clear definition by using the confusion.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Wherein is that straightforward?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's straightforward, that's very [laughs] direct. I mean [laughs] it's not going around, you know, trying to prove anything, but it's just cut and dry in some sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=1703.0,1839.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, is that the point of Nagarjuna's [INAUDIBLE] ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I think so, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well could you say something about how reason applies there? I mean obviously it's like kind of beyond reason, in some common sense way. I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't say beyond reasoning, it's extraordinarily reasonable, actually. That it's based on idea of relativity, that there's no final judgment of who to say what is what, what is not what. But everything is regarded as merit of its own. You want to say something?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=1839.0,1888.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah, you said that the sutras were not made to read but were made to be heard? And I was just wondering how one goes about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that our present situation we can't have a reader of sutra and you sort of listen to it; particularly if you're going to study and work on such sutra as this particular course demands. Traditionally what happens is people memorize the whole sutra, and then they read audibly to themselves. And your neighbor might listen to it or he might join in, so that you begin to get sense out of it. But I think we could do it in a similar way, is not to just interpret every words as said in the sutra, trying to figure out, or trying to get something out of it immediately, but just read as if you're being carried in on a gentle wind, carries you on the river. That you go through the feelings of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn other word if you are reading Heart Sutra, say read it first, couldn't understand it, could-- totally confused. And read again, somehow lines begin to make sense. And read again, maybe highlights begin to join with each other, there's some sense of something which is still unclear, you know, it's still a load of rubbish. [Laughter] And then trying to feel it, what is underneath of those words. Just generally trying to feel it, you know, rather than deliberately trying to make word by word. That seem to be one of the basic point of studying Buddhism is you can't grasp for one particular point of Buddhist doctrine and use it at all, you had to catch the *whole* flavor, the whole flow of it. It's somewhat -- it involves a lot of hard work, but at the same time it means that you have to get into it really completely. It's like listen to music, in some sense. You can listen to yourself and you can catch up the undercurrent of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: And is it necessary to go through-- even through Buddhism in order to transcend?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, I don't think you have to become or you have to convinced in the Buddhism particularly at all, but you could read a sutra, you know, just as an outsider of Buddhism. You could still catch the meaning of it. In fact at some point it's better because you are not conditioned by any kind of faith or obligation of anything at all so you have a very fresh, direct reference to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=1888.0,2084.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, you know I've been trying to study Tibetan now to do translations, but since that I've been wondering, is it possible to translate the sutras or religious texts if you’re, well if you're not enlightened, [laughs] or don't have a complete understanding of them yourself? What must I do to ever translate the teachings?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's precisely the purpose of translating, is you will translate it for your neighbor, rather than you will translate it for something quite advanced than yourself. And if you translate with your own confusion then it means something to your neighbor who is also equally confused. [Laughter] And I know misery loves company but still it's best [UNCLEAR: yana? we honor?] that you can ever use. I don't think any work of translation is regarded as absolutely ideal or perfect. There's always a cultural term of Tibetan translations or the Sanskrit itself or the Chinese or the Japanese, that they are in its own way incomplete, they are confused. They are not really true word of Buddha at all. And because they are not being work-- complete work-- true words of Buddha; therefore it is become words of the samsaric people. And therefore it creates kind of ladder in which you have somewhere to step to, so rather than the translations-- purely by the translations will bring you into enlightenment. I mean that's the shortcomings of any kind of books, any kind of literature -- it's not really ideally perfect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=2084.0,2214.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: What would you tell someone who set out to translate something like this to do?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What would you tell?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: What would you tell them to do?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well just go ahead and translate. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=2214.0,2235.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Would you repeat the point that you're trying make of the-- well, the point of what the comparative sutras had to offer or their purpose, more or less? You pointed out one particular point and...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the whole point seem to be is to realize that all the sutras were given or presented to the audience. It's the audience who create the sutras rather than the Buddha.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Create in what sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In a sense that it depends on their state of mind, and the teaching of appropriate situation comes up. Like the first part is very simple and second part is slightly more involved and third part is more involved -- is depends on the growth of the disciples. So in fact they manufacture the framework of the teaching and Buddha was just falling into it, like a mirror, and whatever reflect in it is okay as far as Buddha was concern.\r\n\r\n\r\nI think that's one of the basic point is-- of comparative study of sutras, so then we have a completely open mind to study it. If you look into the historical things that hinayanaist rejects certain mahayana sutra, mahayana reject certain hinayana sutras. Then it becomes just purely recreating gossip rather than you are getting into the greater feel of Buddhism as a sort of Buddhism as growth of feeling, or growth of intelligence that has developed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=2235.0,2352.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I have a question. Is it necessary to study the scriptures, the sutras, or can you just-- would, say a practice such as meditation lead you in the way the sutras would want you to go, or lead you in the way towards enlightenment? Do you have to study the sutras?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, to begin with the idea is to not to attain enlightenment. [Laughs] Idea is to develop a very definite footing, rather than the goal. And in order to do that I think one needs the study of sutras, which is kind of exercising the intellect, *along with* meditation practice, which is bringing out neurosis on the surface so that you won't cover it up. Which is both seem to be necessary, absolutely equal. It's like between-- difference between the daylight and getting up. Both are complementary. If you don't get up, and sleep whole day, then you don't communicate to the daylight; if there's no daylight it-- there's no point in getting up because there's nothing to it. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=2352.0,2449.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Is there any advantage the sutras would have--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Any what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Is there any advantages the sutras would have over any other-- I mean studying the sutras, over any other type of study?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see the strange enough that as we have very extraordinarily limited and in fact somewhat distorted translation of sutras -- in English language anyway. Supposedly some French ones are supposedly best-- better; the German ones supposedly better, but we know-- we don't know. But largest collection of sutras we have in English.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut advantage of studying sutras are much better than reading commentaries, that you are getting to the source. Once you begin to read the sutras, somewhat you begin to think like Buddha. It's very stubborn and very repetitious, but at the same time very clear and very-- makes everything very sure. You know, things are understood. And in the sutras extraordinarily repetitious, that in itself act as a kind of meditation. Instead of saying that, \"Five skandhas doesn't exist\" he goes through \"form doesn't exist, feeling doesn't exist, impulse doesn't exist, consciousness doesn't exist\" so on, so on. Which is very repetitious but very faithful.\r\n\r\n\r\nI think once you begin to read the commentaries we begin to then waver -- much more. And particularly if we read the commentaries written by contemporary Westerners, which is extraordinarily berserk, you know it's goes all over. That you are making reference to all kinds of philosophical schools and Buddhism as well. That's okay, but at the same time that point that making is not quite clear. Whenever there's hesitation to understand the sutras then immediately there's another sort of way of covering themselves up begin to comes up, which is maybe well intentional. I think if you read just basic sutras, basic translations, much as its favor-- flavor might have lost but still it does make sense enormously. It is extraordinary boring. It's quite different from reading Omar Khayyam or something like that. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: It doesn't sound like it would be very effective in training the intellect.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see that's the whole point. What is intellect?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: What is it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What *is* intellect?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: It's an electrochemical phenomena. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sounds like computer. I mean how do we stimulate our intellect? How?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well I suppose one-- for one, you could read, but possibly also you could-- the intellect could stimulate itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean the whole point is that if you go over and over, again and again, on one point, until you get tired of that point, trying to work something out of, you couldn't do it and you just give up. And the moment when you give up you begin to discover new discoveries. You know it's like scientific, you know, research work, as well at the same time that you have to dwell on the things all the time. Intellect is very quivering and does want-- does not want to be captivated, or begin to feel insulted by not able to discover what should be discovered. But if you keep on doing it, and then some point you begin to give up its... tightness, and then begin to click, and you might get genius ideas. You know, intellect is-- it's like taming a wild pet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=2449.0,2748.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche, do each of the three baskets have examples of the three categories or [INAUDIBLE], or are they--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Three categories?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well, are there straightforward [INAUDIBLE] sutras and literal, you know, literal [INAUDIBLE] and whatever the third one is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: --of each of those three? Or are those three the three you described?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Are there three?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Are the three types of sutras you described--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: --the same thing as the three baskets? Or are there three types in each of the baskets?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think there are actually eighteen types of styles in each-- all of the sutras. Which I didn't bother to go through it -- it might bore you. But there are eighteen types of styles of the prayers and the poem and discussion and discourse and purely by the audience. And there eighteen types of them which were presented in the three basket, which is general categories, such as like mahayana and hinayana and so on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: That isn't quite what I was asking is that I'm not sure I can address it. Are there-- are there literal and straightforward and I suppose esoteric examples, say specifically in the abhidharma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there are literal and straightforward, those are the two categories.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And most of the hinayana ones are connected with the literal, including portion of abhidharma. And abhidharma begin to pick up with the straightforward one, some point. Particular when one is talking about the consciousness, then it can't become just literal and it had to become straightforward, and had to become much more outrageous than just purely straightforward ones.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: And is there a third or are those just the two of them?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There are two of them, just purely two types -- the straightforward and literal. The literal one comes first, such as like the truth of suffering, and the straightforward is like prajnaparamita logic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=2748.0,2958.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Rinpoche, are the sutras corresponding to the koans in Zen Buddhism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Koans? Koans are the certain quotations from the sutras, usually certain catchphrases, that been taken out from the sutras and used as meditation practices by the Rinzai school of Zen Buddhism. And they are portion of a sutra. Like you have in The Heart Sutra, \"Form is emptiness, emptiness is form,\" you might pick up that as a koan; something to work on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Can a complete understanding of the koan be reached?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Can the complete understanding of the sutra be reached by studying the koan as [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's questionable. There was a big debate about that, whether the sudden enlightenment of koan understanding is comparable to a total understanding of enlightenment. And one particular tradition says that a koan is like learning the nouns, and if you don't learn the grammar of the noun then you have no understanding of it at all. You just know \"cat\", \"dog\", but you can't say \"cat is black,\" and you just stuck with the cat. But on the other hand, the other school would say that if you know the cat-ness of it then you automatically know the blackness of the cat as well. Which is very strange.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut I think both people being too dogmatic in fact. That koan becomes too intense if you don't allow yourself, you know, relate with the rest of the experience. If you understand the \"form is empty, emptiness is form\" that's not quite enough -- then what happens? How to make a cup of tea? And that kind of situation had to come in as well. So if you know how to make cup of tea completely well, then you may not understand how is form is empty, emptiness is form either. So it is somewhat interdependent. So I wouldn't say complete understanding of a koan is a complete understanding of the sutras; it had to be dependent on each other, somewhat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=2958.0,3127.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: They seem to specifically exclude the teaching of Buddha's third turning of the wheel of dharma -- I guess is tantra. Calling that sutra--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Third what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: You seem to specifically exclude Buddha's teaching at the end of his life from being called \"sutra\" literature. Why is that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The third turning of wheel of doctrine?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: The what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Did you say the third one?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Yeah, the last.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's the...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Why aren't they being referred to as \"sutras\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I mean there seems somehow to be a big point, that the tantras aren't sutras.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the third turning is not regarded as tantra at all -- it is still sutra. Such as like... Mahaparinirvana Sutra is in the third turning of wheel of doctrine, and I think Saddharma Pundarika is also third turning of wheel of doctrine, and maha Samadhiraja Sutra also, third turn of wheel of doctrine. And they are not regarded as tantras -- at all, by no means -- but maybe there's some reference to tantra, just a faint reference.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo the three turning is completely of mahayana and hinayana practice, and the other turning, vajra wheel, is entirely different. That according to how Buddha began teaching Guhyasamaja Tantra, was that he exclude his old disciples, and \"if you want to teach me-- if you want me to teach Guhyasamaja Tantra, it is time for my old students to leave.\" He exclude them; all the arhats had to leave. And then he begin to present the Guhyasamaja Tantra. So that is quite different from tantra. Because the sutra talks about a junction, two together make one, and tantra talks about just one is already true, like a thread -- which is we're getting into another area. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=3127.0,3299.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Did you say that the [UNCLEAR: sutra was a?] junction of doubt and [UNCLEAR: hesitation? meditation?] ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah it's the audience which means doubt, and the teaching is being the truth. So doubt and confident woven together which present the teaching.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Is there any particular thing that constitutes the meaning of the sutra?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the sutra itself. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: But--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] It's the river; the ocean.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Why did [INAUDIBLE] ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because they can't handle it. [Laughter] They can't handle tantric teachings.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Who did he teach it to?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Who did he teach it to?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To people who doesn't-- people who don't want to follow the simpleminded practice. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=3299.0,3379.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe we should start with the discussion groups. Yeah, do you have another question?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Yeah, one more. Could someone treat your lecture as a sutra?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Can someone treat a lecture, for example like the kind you give, as a sutra? In other words, rather than treating it just purely for the logic of it, that somehow there's something else?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, the lecture could be regarded as sutra, yeah. But the lecture which provokes people, and they can't handle it, and it's actually freaky as well as it is extraordinary dynamite, could be regarded as tantra. In other word, the tantra begin to mind your business, tantric exposition begin to mind your business, whereas a sutra gently flows, like glider. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=3379.0,3438.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85034/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We could discontinue it there. You have the leaders set up?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Yeah, [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564#t=3438.0,3449.44325"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85035","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730301VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161715/file/293564/transcript/85035/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa 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