{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/tb0xp6w53h/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1974-07-15: Tantra: Journey Without Goal: Talk 1: The Tantric Practitioner"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1974-07-15"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Video"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Boulder, Colorado, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Course"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/215/show\"\u003e1974 Naropa Institute: Tantra: Journey Without Goal\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 1: The Tantric Practitioner"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Buddhist Vajrayana and Tantra"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["Introduction to seminar on tantra, covering the basic view of how one approaches the tantric path. Trungpa Rinpoche says he is presenting it \"theoretically\", with view that students may practice it one day. Tantric teachings regarded as extremely sacred and inaccessible, so can't be presented as merchandise. Complete understanding of hinayana and mahayana prerequisite for entering tantric path. Definition of \"tantra\" as \"continuity\", \"gyu\" in Tibetan, the thread of continuity that runs through personal experience.  Emphasizes need to ask \"who\" is studying tantra, rather than \"how\" one studies it. Glimpses of tantra in hinayana through experience of no self; some people \"tantric by nature.\" Basic ideas of tantra only comprehensible through meditation practice. Approach is looking at ourselves directly, without outside reference points, discovering nonexistence.  Sense of humor, seeing confusion as \"dance\" essential to beginning tantra."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Journey without Goal","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 04","VIDEODVD: Journey Without Goal"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: JOURNEY WITHOUT GOAL: Chapter 1: The Tantric Practitioner\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/journey-without-goal-860.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 4 (in contained book JOURNEY WITHOUT GOAL)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-385.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nVIDEODVD: JOURNEY WITHOUT GOAL\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.kalapamedia.org/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=DVK345\"\u003eKalapa Media\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Aug 01 2018 to Feb 24 2021 Transcribing: Daniel Nguyen Checking: Travis May Final Proof: Ella Milligan, Nancy Roberts, Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1974"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Introduction to seminar on tantra, covering the basic view of how one approaches the tantric path. Trungpa Rinpoche says he is presenting it \"theoretically\", with view that students may practice it one day. Tantric teachings regarded as extremely sacred and inaccessible, so can't be presented as merchandise. Complete understanding of hinayana and mahayana prerequisite for entering tantric path. Definition of \"tantra\" as \"continuity\", \"gyu\" in Tibetan, the thread of continuity that runs through personal experience.  Emphasizes need to ask \"who\" is studying tantra, rather than \"how\" one studies it. Glimpses of tantra in hinayana through experience of no self; some people \"tantric by nature.\" Basic ideas of tantra only comprehensible through meditation practice. Approach is looking at ourselves directly, without outside reference points, discovering nonexistence.  Sense of humor, seeing confusion as \"dance\" essential to beginning tantra."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/162/755/small/thumbnail_162755_1663906287.jpg?1663906403","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19740715VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":2734.05867,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/162/755/small/thumbnail_162755_1663906287.jpg?1663906403","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/162/755/original/19740715VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4?1658122780","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":2734.05867,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740715VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19740715VCTR1 - Naropa Institute - Boulder - Tantra: Journey Without Goal - Talk 1 - The Tantric Practitioner]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=0.0,45.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like to welcome you all at this particular class, that we are trying to study, and work together on the basis of tantric teachings of Buddhism. And this is an extremely ambitious project that we are doing. That some of you might have no background, or some of you have some background to understand tantra. But however, that it is possible that we could work together, in this particular subject.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=45.0,103.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The basic notion of tantra, that what we're going to study and what we're going to work on, is largely based on the practice of meditation, according to Buddhist tradition. That it is necessary to have some experience of it, otherwise we're at lost. At the same time, that having experience of practicing meditation, that there should be some kind of understanding, theoretical understanding at least, of tantra, that's what we are doing, this point. And we are viewing the area that we might arrive some point, one day. At the same time we trying to understand that area we might be in one day. So the subject matter that we're going to discuss and deal with is a purely hypothetical ground. Maybe with some personal experience that you might have felt, in some part of your life. But still, it is a very hypothetical situation, and that might have some experiential connections, quite possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=103.0,201.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But however, that hopefully you'll be able to take this particular course personally, rather than entirely based on a theoretical experience alone. There are some people in tantric in nature-- by nature, that have some experienced already; it is worthwhile to clarify some problems that you've faced, or some misunderstandings that you've experienced. Or mishandling one's energy and so forth, is need to be corrected.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=201.0,246.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fundamentally, that tantric Buddhism came about when there was complete understanding and comprehension of hinayana Buddhism, as well as vajrayana [sic: mahayana] Buddhism, that the teachings of tantra came about. That in order to understand the basic grounds of tantra, which means, \"continuity,\" \"tantra\"; or in Tibetan \"gyu,\" which means \"continuity\". That there is a continual thread that is running through, in terms of personal experience to the teachings that you are committed to you-- to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=246.0,308.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So this thread begins from somewhere, ordinarily speaking. If you have continuity, where you begin the continuity? But at this point, according to the Buddhist norm, that we could say that this thread had never begun, and therefore there is continuity. In fact, such thread doesn't exist, and it's continual one at the same time, however. That is to say that basis of this particular experience is largely founded on *who* is practicing tantra.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=308.0,372.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rather than \"what is tantra,\" we are at this point anyway not in a position, or up to, to discuss \"what is tantra.\" But we have to go back at right the beginning to find out, who is receiving tantra? Who is tantrika? Who is tantric practitioner? That brings us lot of questions, how far we can go back. Do we have any chance to hear about tantra at all, or are we just purely trying to find who's tantrika? Well, that seems to be depends on us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=372.0,439.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But as far as tantrika or tantric practitioner is concerned, that you couldn't find what this is, who it is. Which is going back and back and back to the beginning of Buddhist tradition, what's known as \"hinayana.\" From that point of view, hinayana *is* tantra. The one of the inspiring glimpse, or experiences, that hinayana practitioners have experienced, is that of the absence of self, which is equal to the absence of God. When there is no individual being, personality, to perceive external entity of anything at all, then the point is that that particular situation becomes open, rather than have a conceptualized divine being or, for that matter, traditionally known as Big Brother. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=439.0,580.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, we are examining \"what this is, who are we, who it is.\" According to the tantric observation so to speak, that we find ourselves nobody. Rather \"non-body.\" How is it possible? \"I have name. I have a body. I eat. I sleep. I lead life. I wear clothes.\" And that seem to be the precisely the point of that we misunderstood ourselves, our nonexistent self. That we approach ourselves on the basis of that we eat, we sleep, we exist, we have a name; therefore, we presume there is something must be happening. That's the common misunderstanding that took place all the time, long time ago and also recently at the same time, constantly. Every one moment is problem of that. That we are not ourselves because we have a name. How do we know? If you don't use a reference point that, \"I'm called so and so, my name. And I wear clothes, I eat, I sleep.\" There is a big gap somewhere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=580.0,731.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Usually the logic goes that we don't exist *because* of something else. You could say \"I don't exist because I'm penniless.\" But still you have penny to be less of [laughter], so that isn't quite good logic. Certain hysteria of trying to nonexist to ourselves had brought in American culture particularly. \"If I was drafted in the army, I don't exist because I burned my birth certificate, my draft card, and hopefully nobody will find me.\" But still, somebody *fights* for this particular thing exist. The birth certificate-lessness is individuality, and a draft card-lessness is also individual *being* who had deliberately trying to burn his draft card and birth certificate and driver's license, whatever you have. But there's some kind of record of that, still exist. Then you end up by blowing the office buildings in Washington or wherever, that your draft cards and your birth certificates were in stored. [Laughs] That create enormous commotion. [Laughter] You become yourself in the newspaper headlines and all kinds of things, you become more spectacular than you're trying to nonexist. [Laughs] We end up in the problem, in fact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=731.0,894.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The question of nonexistence here, is not question of trying to destroy relative reference point. If you try and destroy, we are also in the same problem. But question is not using any reference point *at all*, none whatsoever, and then can we find ourselves. Not looking at ourselves, not finding out whether we exist or not, but just simply *looking* at ourselves, directly without any reference point, any concepts of even reference point, or even concepts of not using reference point, either. But just simply, directly looking at ourselves, even without looking. Well, that may be very demanding, [laughter] but let be so. Let us find the core of the problem, the heart of the matter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=894.0,964.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, probably we find ourselves in the situation that not knowing exactly what to do, completely lost. And we begin to find that this is a very weird practice, what we are trying to do. \"I even can't *begin*. How can I do anything?\" Well, maybe that is some kind of small portion of beginning at the beginning. That relating with one's stupidity, ignorance, as beginning point, not knowing how to deal with oneself without using reference point, is getting closer somewhere to the truth, so to speak. But at the same time, we haven't found the root of the reality, so to speak, if there is at all, which we don't know at this point. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=964.0,1038.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We cannot find the beginning of the tantric thread unless we come to the conclusion that we don't exist. That's impossible. That's the only point, that's the important point. And one of the problems that we face is that we trying to logically work out that we don't exist, because something doesn't exist. Something does therefore we don't exist. It had to be experiential. Also, it had to be beyond stupidity, beyond confusion, obviously. That confusion that what we are talking about at this point, is not knowing how to begin. We begin to find there is the beginningless-ness, and we feel that is endless as well the same time. So we are getting somewhere, but still we are rather stupid. We find ourselves being jellyfish, robot. And there's no discovery at all but the whole thing is seem to be rather *flat*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=1038.0,1121.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Only way to find way out of that or way into that is, that it is necessary according to tantric tradition, is there should be some sense of humor, with this whole thing. That we're trying to find ourselves not able to finding ourselves, and we begin to feel enormously flat, and heavy, and in the way, somewhere. And begin to find something is being nuisance. Not knowing in exactly where to put your finger on, but still there is something is nuisance, somewhere that is not actually happening. And if one take the viewpoint of humor on this particular point, and then you begin to find even the flatness, even the uninspiring and solidness and confusing quality is actually dancing, at the same time, constantly, all the time. So there seem to be need for, to develop some sense of excitement and dance. Rather than that there is some kind-- something's taking place, and you would like to make it feel *better*. When you begin to find that dance is taking place with your humor. That the current, or apparent, stupidity is somewhat uplifted. But still, we do not know whether we just look ourselves humorously, but still the stupidity is heavier all the time. Or we might be able to cured ourselves-- we had cured ourselves, so therefore that something's taking place which is uncertain, as if still uncertain, completely confused and very ambiguous. Then we begin to find that the ambiguousness, ambiguity, is a question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=1121.0,1304.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"According to the tantric tradition it is called the \"discovering the seed syllable,\" is the discovering the ambiguity. Reason why it is called \"seed syllable\" is because uncertainty becomes big issue, rather than source of problem. So you begin your point of view from uncertainty, according to tantric tradition. And we begin to find ourselves that we don't exist, finally, completely, that it is certain ambiguity, is source of confusion and source of humor at the same time. So therefore, the discovery of nonexistence come from energy and stuff, or \"thingness.\" And thingness doesn't prove the existence of energy, energy doesn't prove the existence of thingness. So we begin to find ourselves at lost. In the fashion of freedom rather than the fashion of confusion, this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=1304.0,1392.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This chaos we are talking about, and this humor we are talking about, this ambiguity we are talking about, is personal experience rather than analytical experience. That we begin to realize that we don't exist actually. We don't exist because of our existence. That is the punchline, so to speak. The world exist, because we don't exist. We don't exist, therefore the world exist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=1392.0,1444.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is enormous joke behind the whole thing. Big joke. [Laughter] You might say, \"Who's playing the joke on us?\" Well, it's difficult to say since we do not know who it is at all. Or even we don't have a question mark to formulate end of our sentence. That we are uncertain. And maybe that is our purpose of studying tantra, is trying to find out who is the questionnaire. Who set up this altogether. If any -- if at all. To realize nonexistence, understand nonexistence, *experience* nonexistence, is seem to be the beginner's point of view. There’s more to come.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=1444.0,1532.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I think it is very important for us to understand and realize that sight, smell, colors, emotions, formlessness, and form-ness, are all expressions of no beginning, nonexistence. Personal experience, rather than metaphysical, philosophical experience. That seem to be one of the important point that we have to discuss, we have to get into properly. There is more to come.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=1532.0,1566.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think at this point, what I'm trying to do here, is you might be highly frustrated or confused or maybe quite possibly pissed off. [Laughter] But we've got to do this, I'm afraid. That in order to become a good student, good listener, good audience, that you have to go through this. Otherwise, what we might be doing is completely fruitless. And it is not particularly big demand, it's just a matter of attitude and concept. That we are used to having a lot of help, that when we go and listen to a speaker, read book, that book expected to be comprehensive, grammatical, and good literature. And listen to speaker, that you expect the speaker would sell his product to you. You don't have to do anything very much but pay your cents' worth. And somehow, it doesn't quite work when we particularly talk about vajrayana teaching, which is regarded as extremely sacred, and inaccessible. And also that a lot of people in the past, generations after generations, have put lot of energy and effort into this. We can't afford to make this into purely merchandise in the supermarket. So I hope you understand this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=1566.0,1667.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And maybe we should have a discussion at this point, if you have anything to ask at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=1667.0,1706.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I'd like to know if there's a list of which books we should read for which weeks. There was last--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: There's a list of books for the course. And...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I haven't seen anything saying which go with which lectures like there was last term. And I was wondering if there is such a list.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is there book list, did you ask me that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Saying which books to read, which weeks. So that the books go with the material you discuss.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we left it open this point, I think. That the style of this particular course seem to be slightly different than that of the previous one. And, hopefully you'll be able to read it, all of them, sometime or other. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=1706.0,1798.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The way you described \"anatta,\" as the approach to the beginning of the tantric path, seems to me to be very closely and related to the \"shunyata\" concept. Namely, that concepts themselves, as we have to formulate through our cerebral apparatus, are of no help of realizing our existence, or our being. Now, is anatta and shunyata very closely related?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. [Laughter; applause] I think actually, we're saying the same thing. At this level. Good luck, sir. [Laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=1798.0,1908.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: This may sound a little, slightly oddball. But the point is this. We live in a country where we're brought up with habits. And we have an education system, and we go along with the system, and we get molded. And then, there's a youth comes along, which every time, every couple of seasons, there *is* youth. [Laughter] Then they say, \"Well there's something wrong with this system. We can't put our finger on the system.\" Then we can say they're right or wrong, and then we still go on with our system, that you're out to make a buck, and you don't care how you make a buck. 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[Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it's pretty much what we have here, as far as individuals-- collections of individuals concerned. It's-- there's inspiration in the people's development, that there is some reality is taking place, in the true sense. That experiences of energy becomes relevant to them. That they feel maybe threatened by such energy. Or maybe they feel lack of energy, but still that there's a sense of personal interest in the world, the world of sensual, the world of visual, audio world, whatever is may be. There's some interest in how things work and how things are perceived to you. There's sense of enormous interest, which is seem to be tantric by nature, is that interest in the perceptions.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd maybe that's a problem of inspired tantrikas, future tantrikas may be. That they are too fascinated by world of sound, world of smell, world of visual, world whatever may be. That there is some sense of lackness. Although they're inspired, but at the same time there is possibility. That they don't have enough *grasp* of that, which might present a problem of understanding true tantra. But still, they are, could be regarded as that born in tantric family in the form of fetus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=2280.0,2468.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39746/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: If you find you're not particularly fascinated by sounds or sights or colors, that the question of who is the experiencer seems to be more relevant than being-- than that fascination. 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Let's see later,\nwhat else come up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=2228.77,2237.56"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39747/annotation/429","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: I understood you\nto say earlier this evening","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755#t=2280.35,2283.15"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76080/file/162755/transcript/39747/annotation/430","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that some people\nare tantric by 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