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Not a traditional \"dictatorship\" on part of teacher, because of non-theistic nature of the path, and the reciprocity between student and teacher. Samaya as both \"mutual bondage\", and the actual disciplines on vajrayana path. Also describes role of devotion, and exertion in vajrayana. Samaya further described as \"refining\" process, where minds of teacher and student come together.  In Q\u0026amp;A, responds to question about what it means to break the samaya vow; what the relationship is between samaya and the mind; and the characteristics of the vajra master."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["VIDEODVD: Skillful Means and Wisdom (Kalapa Media, out-of-print)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Apr 19 2023 to Feb 11 2024 Transcribing: Julia McKaig Checking: Blaire Martin Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1976"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Explains the teacher-student relationship in the context of \"samaya\", or sacred bond or word. Not a traditional \"dictatorship\" on part of teacher, because of non-theistic nature of the path, and the reciprocity between student and teacher. Samaya as both \"mutual bondage\", and the actual disciplines on vajrayana path. Also describes role of devotion, and exertion in vajrayana. Samaya further described as \"refining\" process, where minds of teacher and student come together.  In Q\u0026amp;A, responds to question about what it means to break the samaya vow; what the relationship is between samaya and the mind; and the characteristics of the vajra master."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/245/274/small/thumbnail_245274_1720579023.jpg?1720564668","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1720578802_19760604VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":2168.896,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/245/274/small/thumbnail_245274_1720579023.jpg?1720564668","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/245/274/original/1720578802_19760604VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4?1720578817","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":2168.896,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/transcript/68482","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19760604VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/transcript/68482/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19760604VCTR1 - Public Seminar - SoquelCA - Skillful Means and Wisdom - Talk 16]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274#t=0.0,54.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/transcript/68482/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe I should raise the question after what we discussed yesterday. In the possibilities of relationships in the vajrayana mandala the question of vajra master and student, and its environments-- their environment, together. The ordinary concept of a dictatorship of the vajra master, the situations could be very one-pointed and one-direction, one traffic level. That there's no chance for the students to take part in whatever is happening. But in this case in the vajrayana, the relationship still becomes reciprocal, because of its non-existence of theism. In the theistic traditions, naturally, that journey is one journey; that the plant receive the sunshine or the rain, everything comes from heaven and take delight in that. But in this case it is a mutual communication takes place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274#t=54.0,174.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/transcript/68482/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As a Tibetan saying, \"The samaya is like the egg: that you get half, I get half.\" That is to say teacher and students both get half egg each, in some sense. But at this point I don't think you should get too carried with *that* concept too much. But the notion here is some sense of continuity where that both the teacher and the student are bounded by mutual bondage. That mutual bondage is what known as \"samaya\". \"Sa\", S-A, \"ma\", M-A, \"ya\", Y-A. Sa-ma-ya bondage. Which literally means bondage, or the \"abiding in the sacred word.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274#t=174.0,263.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/transcript/68482/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sometimes samaya also could also mean particular discipline, particular practice, at the same time. At that point samaya principle is also that able to utter a word, utter speech, able to speak properly, able to read properly. That both the teacher and the student, this point, are creating words, logos; the sacred word, putting together. Logos here meaning \"sacred word ever uttered.\" And that sacred word consists of consonant and vowels. At this point, the student's being the consonant, and the teacher's being the vowels. That without both of those situations put together, in order to make sentence or word at all -- impossible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274#t=263.0,347.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/transcript/68482/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So from that point of view, that the E principle which is connected with vowels, and VAM principle which is connected with the consonant. EVAM principle. Which is together, that VAM principle of consonant are being the dharmadhatu level, and the E principle is vajradhatu level at the same time. That without those two put together that there's no utterance of anything at all, nothing coherent is actually happening on that level. And also we could say that the VAM principle is related with skillful means, and the E principle is related to wisdom, at same time. Without wisdom there is no skillful means, and if there is no skillful means properly operating, then there's no wisdom at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274#t=347.0,408.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/transcript/68482/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So whole thing seems to be tied together at this point, in the samaya principle. Word. The word needs sentence. Sentence needs syllables. Syllable needs consonant and vowels put together. Putting together. [Laughs] And that seem to be the basic point, where that devotion is very important. At the same time exertion is important too. Devotion is something that if you put it in a theistic realm, it is something that you give up because of the hierarchy, and that you are so poverty stricken that you have to be devoted, you have to admire something higher than you are. Which tend to create a lot of problems, because you have no proper vessel. According to the vajrayana discipline, the vessel is more important, *very* important, as well as what we put in is equally important, at the same time. So if you don't have a vessel properly, or the containing things properly put together, there's nothing happening, nothing is taking place properly, at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274#t=408.0,489.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/transcript/68482/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So from that point of view, samaya bondage brings all together the vajradhatu, as well as the dharmadhatu, brought together in one particular area, one particular point. The sense of dharmadhatu is providing the raw materials. And out of the raw material of the student's neurosis and everything, insanity and everything, that the vajradhatu is a refining process of the raw material, that work together with the help of a vajra master and the basic practice of sitting meditation and disciplines involved in vajrayana traditions at all, put them together, coherently. So then you have a gigantic marketing possibilities, of that the crude oil and the refined oil put together, you can export your oil. And then you have no energy shortage [laughter], and your whole country's completely surviving on this particular gigantic kingdom, of energy world. That because of the raw materials and refined materials put together, the refining process put together, and the whole kingdom is surviving on a utterly powerful energy system. You could have electricity, you could have run your motor cars, and you could run your mills, you could do all sorts of things. And needless to say that I'm sure you know all those things much better than I do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274#t=489.0,597.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/transcript/68482/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's what we're talking about -- energy circulation can take place altogether, with that whole process. The raw material of the syllables, and the refining process of the vowels put together, which makes a word. And when a word has been made that the words become very contagiously powerful. And real word; that words actually can *speak*, rather than just hum, or just grunt, in the ape level or animal level. That you can actually put sentence together, because that words contains everything together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274#t=597.0,640.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/transcript/68482/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When you begin to break the samaya bondage, basically, samaya bondage was broken, there's no bond between the vajra master and student together, put together. Then, that student had too much raw material. Too much concrete. Unable to build building out of it, or too much crude oil, and nobody's able to re-process the whole thing. So the raw material, or the crude oil vessel, has become sinking ship, and goes down the drain, the bottom of the ocean, ocean of vajradhatu. It's natural suicidal process, which we talk about vajra hell is that if the raw material is not processed properly, then you go downhill, down the bottom of the ocean. And claustrophobia, quicksand, and everything we discussed in the past, and you go downhill, at the bottom. Therefore it is known as the suicidal process, because you have begin to break the link and possibilities of working together is already cut through. And there's no hope of working together anymore at all. So therefore analogy of a snake up or down in bamboo tube, is the analogy. Where if you're heading down, that your raw material's so rich maybe, absolutely rich, and it could be fantastic but you're not making any economy out of that. And you can't eat crude oil, or you can't drive on the crude oil. You can't get electricity with the crude oil. All the rest of the raw materials are just piece of junk that you just go down, down and down, because of their weight, their crudeness, so there's no refining process taking place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274#t=640.0,769.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/transcript/68482/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The samaya bondage is a refining process where that the higher level of mind and lower level of mind are put together, and you can circulate together by refining whole process. And both the raw material becomes delightful because there's so much resources there. At the same time the refinement gadgets, if you like to call it, are also so powerful at the same time. So things can be worked together, together. And begin to create a kingdom of its own, the vajrayana kingdom, of energy relationship, properly created.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo that seem to be the basic point. And maybe we could have some discussions on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274#t=769.0,862.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/transcript/68482/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX KING: Rinpoche, at the point of breaking the samaya vow, is it usually, in the past, that the student at that point probably has a great sense of spaciousness and personal development at that point already. And is the breaking with the vajra command the sense of that he thinks he's right, and the teacher's wrong?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Often that happens. And also quite possibly that he has much more... business venture than teacher's approach to business venture, so to speak.\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX KING: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, both of those. And because of both of those, that there's no interjecting situations happening that the break in the vajra command, the student begin to sink. Ultimate, ultimate claustrophobia, of some kind, I suppose.\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX KING: Mhmm. Is the vajra command ever broken simply from the fact that he gives into fear?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there's not much of-- there's *more* room, if students does that, and student's not condemning the basic teachings. Give in to fear is very, very lovable, [laughter] and very cute. [Laughter] That's fine, that's very fantastic thing, and that could be, you know, reworked altogether. But giving a basic kind of ambition is problematic. Ambition, where the story of Rudra, where that Rudra, in his young student level, went to teacher, and teacher says, \"I'm afraid you're wrong.\" And he was so angry, but he cou-- he thought he did great job. He killed him on spot, his teacher. And he didn't want to hear the bad word anymore at all. That's the kind of the problem that where the ship sinks.\r\n\r\n\r\nMAX KING: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274#t=862.0,996.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/transcript/68482/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nCAROL JOHNSTONE: Is that generally what happens to vajra masters, in that situation? What happens to them when [laughter; laughs] samaya vow is broken?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't understand. You think you're-- are you talking about the vajra master usually get killed? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCAROL JOHNSTONE: Well, I was wondering what the consequence was. I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which consequence?\r\n\r\n\r\nCAROL JOHNSTONE: In samaya vow, is there a mutual identification process, between the student--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mutual identification process, but one of them is rather weak. And the other one is rather strong. So when you get weak and strong put together, there is explosion of some kind. The usually weak goes down, the strong goes up. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCAROL JOHNSTONE: The reason I asked that, is someone had said that... Mary, was it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somebody said what?\r\n\r\n\r\nCAROL JOHNSTONE: That the vajra master also went to vajra hell at the same time, that the student did.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so; never heard of that. Otherwise a vajra master couldn't become vajra master. Vajra master is the manager of the vajra hell. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCAROL JOHNSTONE: Okay. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who said that, anyway? [laughter; laughs] Never mind, we'll find out! [laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274#t=996.0,1104.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/transcript/68482/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Cookie Monster, over there? [laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WEINGRAD: In response to your question Rinpoche--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In what?\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WEINGRAD: --in response to your question, of who said that, I'd like to answer that. That *you* said that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes? Yes, indeed. Did I?\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WEINGRAD: Yeah. At the '74 seminary, and I asked you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you explain that more?\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WEINGRAD: --I asked you a question--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think I ever said that actually, but maybe you can explain the context of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WEINGRAD: I asked you a que-- Yeah, I asked you a question at the '74 seminary, about what was the situation, for students who were practicing with a very spiritually materialistic attitude. And you said there was a danger for not only themselves going to vajra hell, but also a danger--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WEINGRAD: --for their teacher as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In that situation you are not actually teaching vajrayana at all. You are teaching spiritual materialism, obviously. You know, that in the name of teaching vajrayana, that obviously there's mutual suicide, naturally. That that vajra master is not even manager of the vajra hell; just one of the candidates of vajra hell. [laughter] Yeah, definitely.\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WEINGRAD: Maybe the janitor. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, definitely, yeah. Janitor, or the waitress or the chef. [laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274#t=1104.0,1211.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/transcript/68482/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WEINGRAD: I beg your pardon? I’d like to ask a question. Is that okay?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes indeed.\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WEINGRAD: I'd like to ask you the relationship between samaya as represented by, or as it is defined by dharmadhatu and vajradhatu. The relationship between samaya and \"sem\" [misprounces with \"s\" at end] and the origin of suffering.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?! [laughter] Sin and the origin of suffer?\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WEINGRAD: Suffering, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Suffering?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Sem.\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WEINGRAD: Sems.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sins. Or, sin.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Sem! Mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WEINGRAD: Sems.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mind? Sems or sem. [laughter] Sem. You don't put \"s\" at the end. Only if--\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WEINGRAD: Sorry.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --you're Ladakhis you do that. You come from Ladakh. [laughter] Sem and the origin of suffering.\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WEINGRAD: And samaya.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is there any problems there?\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WEINGRAD: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, mind is origin of everything. But at the same time, *not* origin of everything equally. The mind doesn't think, therefore it thinks. in ordinary level, in the mahayanist's jargon. And all kinds of wrongdoings took place with that process. And samaya is-- taking the vow of samaya that you change your thinking style, your sem style altogether. That you begin to commit yourself much more into the vajrayana discipline. And because you've done so therefore you're taking more risk, and therefore you're bound to have a big fall. It's like flying in a airplane, if you-- your engines go wrong, you have much more danger: you have a hundred percent hope of being dead. Whereas if you're walking, or if you're driving, it depends on the power of the journey, of the vehicle that you're traveling in, you have less chance of being utterly destroyed. That seem to be quite simple.\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WEINGRAD: Well, I didn't understand how that relates specifically to dharmadhatu and vajradhatu.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, dharmadhatu and vajradhatu both are binding factor. That the things begin to take place properly, because dharmadhatu and vajradhatu are both are bound together with the same discipline. They are not separate entity anymore.\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WEINGRAD: So, dharmadhatu and vajradhatu are binding, in a sense they're binding sem to itself, or?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Anything you say.\r\n\r\n\r\nLEE WEINGRAD: Or to something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Dharmadhatu is like the switch, and the vajradhatu is like the light electricity flow already, when the student begin to click into the situation, and then begin to work together. If student's neglectful, not putting new bulbs, or student's neglectful that get the electric shock from the socket, from the switch, then it's a problem of total bondage. [laughs] Think about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274#t=1211.0,1459.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/transcript/68482/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, does the student get some warning, from either himself or from the teacher, that he's off in terms of the vow? Or does it happen always in terms of what you said, you know, the teacher just says you're wrong and you get pissed. I mean is there a subtle thing that happens before that? Some echo, for the student?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Particularly lately we try and do our best. Try to give some warning. [Laughter] We're trying to be very civil, about the whole thing. Yeah. Trying to be more, more and more, more and more kind. And more *hopeful*. Sometimes the warning becomes feedback for further neurosis. And sometimes a warning becomes real message; then things can beginning work together. And that's the case.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're welcome. Just in case, eh? [laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274#t=1459.0,1563.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/transcript/68482/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Could you say some more about the forming of the sacred word? What... that in terms of a particular word, I don't understand it. 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And the lineage that we read down? Tilo, Naro, Marpa, Mila, Gampopa and all the rest of it. They're all vajra masters. Anything else?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Before the historical Buddha then, there were vajra masters--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --before the historical Buddha there were vajra masters?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Buddha is historical vajra master. Yeah. That's why he's known as the vajra holder, in the tantric terms. 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In other words what I'd like to know is, there is pers-- intimate, personal relationship, but there's a quality of great impersonality, reminiscent of a natural force, it seems.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right. That's why vajra master is not just exactly traffic controller. Or not exactly dictator. Not exactly your lover. It's a combination of all of those. That's very confusing, but that could happen. That's it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: It's disconcerting however, to be both-- to be personal with like an avalanche or [laughter] something like that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right! That's great! Yeah, sure. You can worship the sun, as being your personal deity. But a sun begin to scorch your own skin, and doesn't give you enough gentle rays. You could blame the sun.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: It's like that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Something like that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [Laughing] Only more movable.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's universal as well as personal, at the same time -- which is very difficult thing. And I'm sure the Christians have a better answer for that, if they talk about a God, that level. At a very theoretical level. But conveniently they brought out Christ, who was the-- their spokesman. That God is a general thing, but Christ--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Is the person.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --is the person who actually talk to you, tap on your shoulders. But somehow in this case, since we are being non-theistic we don't have those principles, of the Trinity concept anymore. And it is *big*, *small*, *gigantic*, energetic, all-pervasive, tiny. And very personal, but *highly* impersonal at the same time, as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [Laughing] Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Everything's included in the one. That's why the Buddhist tradition tantra talks about the “advaita”, which literally means “one flavor, one taste,\" \"rochik.” Just one taste. Big and small; one taste.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274#t=1884.0,2070.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/transcript/68482/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe we should close down at this point, as much as your enthusiasm is up in the air; that's very nice. Since our time is growing shorter and shorter, I would like to recommend more sitting practice and more discipline, so we can finish what we're doing here, become proper job, so to speak. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Goodnight.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Goodnight.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274#t=2070.0,2168.896"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/transcript/68483","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19760604VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130949/file/245274/transcript/68483/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe I should\nraise the 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