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Role of vajra master is seeing and cutting through deception. Practice centers and organization function to cut deception, through discipline and \"sense of citizenship.\" After taking refuge and bodhisattva vows, there's still \"no magic\"; one has to work on earthly level. Discusses \"vajra sangha-ship,\" as more powerful than ordinary sanghaship, via connection to the overall mandala.  In Q\u0026amp;A, describes his own complete \"nakedness\" in way he leads his life. Addresses question about taking responsibility vs \"just following orders\" in meditation center organizations. Poignant and profound exchange about the need for personal contact with the root teacher."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["VIDEODVD: Skillful Means and Wisdom (Kalapa Media, out-of-print)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Apr 19 2023 to Feb 14 2024 Transcribing: Julia McKaig Checking: Blaire Martin Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1976"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Dangers of deception on vajrayana path. Role of vajra master is seeing and cutting through deception. Practice centers and organization function to cut deception, through discipline and \"sense of citizenship.\" After taking refuge and bodhisattva vows, there's still \"no magic\"; one has to work on earthly level. Discusses \"vajra sangha-ship,\" as more powerful than ordinary sanghaship, via connection to the overall mandala.  In Q\u0026amp;A, describes his own complete \"nakedness\" in way he leads his life. Addresses question about taking responsibility vs \"just following orders\" in meditation center organizations. Poignant and profound exchange about the need for personal contact with the root teacher."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/245/275/small/thumbnail_245275_1720579424.jpg?1720565074","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1720578987_19760605VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":1991.38133,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/245/275/small/thumbnail_245275_1720579424.jpg?1720565074","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/245/275/original/1720578987_19760605VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4?1720579027","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":1991.38133,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275/transcript/68484","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19760605VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275/transcript/68484/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19760605VCTR1 - Public Seminar -1976 - SoquelCA - Skillful Means and Wisdom- Talk 17]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275#t=0.0,15.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275/transcript/68484/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What we've been discussing so far have not quite reached the possibilities of our day-to-day living situation completely. To that context I would like to discuss further. The notion of deception seem to be one of the main outstanding topics of vajrayana, much more so than any of the other yanas, definitely. When the students begin to take vows of all kinds, and begin to involve further into the disciplines of the vajrayana. And quite possibly students also begin to wear robes of all kinds, begin to assume monastic outfit, or students begin to adopt that particular attitude of it, whether they're wearing robes or not. It is very interestingly -- becomes obvious in some sense -- that deception is playing very important part in reality of [laughs] their particular world [laughs].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275#t=15.0,170.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275/transcript/68484/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, anything you do is expression of deception, in some sense. Sitting on a very zafu. Or, cross-legged and pretend to sit, meditate, which you are not really doing in any case. And we pretend to listen to vajrayana discourse, which is not really happening. And every bit of whole thing is pure deception, and nothing is actually happening *at all*, from one point of view. But on the other hand, the since the lack of a better choice, so to speak, there is possibilities of the deception could be *included* as a part of the halfway through. But at the same time, how far we could go along with that particular deception, there has to be some kind of vajra command, to cut through that particular deceptions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275#t=170.0,232.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275/transcript/68484/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That is why I would like to bring particularly tonight, which is very appropriate, that we do have earthly existing Dharmadhatu, and earthly existing Vajradhatu, on this particular soil, which is registered and acknowledged by the government, of RIS [ed: IRS]. [laughter] And we are finally, actually seeing these things, not a theoretical level or ethereal level alone, but we actually are existence entities, citizens of the United States of America. Those entities does exist, as citizens of organizations. Which brings us our inspiration of dancing around-- dancing away, in the ethereal level of vajradhatu, ethereal level of dharmadhatu. And which brings us enormously down, so much down, that we have to be actually registered, to the RIS [ed: IRS] as Dharmadhatus and Vajradhatus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275#t=232.0,313.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275/transcript/68484/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's terrible, sacrilegious maybe. [laughter] It's a terrible comedown, absolutely terrible. Maybe that has some message in that. Not only maybe but there *is*, actually, matter of fact, that we do exist as organizations of the Dharmadhatus, as well as Vajradhatus, that level. Which is organization in which devoted to that ideals of the higher dharmadhatu and higher vajradhatu. At the same time, in order to kill students' deceptions, we have to have a day-to-day real living situation. Which exist in the monetary world, of paying dues or whatever you have to pay, or seminars, whatever you have to do. And the vajradhatu level you have to relate with the organization, is hierarchical situation where watches over your head, over your shoulder.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275#t=313.0,384.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275/transcript/68484/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And those entities are very remarkably powerful and actually working properly in the student's mind. That we do have to have some sense of discipline and some sense of citizenship. Otherwise quite possibly if you are not in one of those, there's possibilities of flying off elsewhere. That you can galavant all over the place, all over the country. And you can collect your own little rhododendrons here and there and four cliff-- what you call?\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Four leaf clover.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Four leaf clover.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275#t=384.0,427.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275/transcript/68484/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Four leaf clover, here and there. And you could collect roses and rhododendrons and chrysanthemums, and the lilies of the best of the spiritual treat, in all of the country. And that is unfortunately known as spiritual materialism. Which actually the Vajradhatu, as organization, as well as vajradhatu ethereal level, both agree together. That that is bad job, in getting spiritual materialism, which is lowest of lowest -- of the bringing down spirituality into the lowest of its own confusion. Which is not such a good idea. Because of that understanding that we do have a discipline exist in our Vajradhatu and Dharmadhatu organizations. This point I'm afraid you have to relate with the earth, that organizational level, which is equally delightful, if you look from downhead. If you came from that way, the existing Dharmadhatus, Vajradhatus also very delightful, very spacious. If you look in that way up in the theistic level, obviously the non-organizational and more ethereal aspect of that, is more fantastic. So this point we are talking about parachute upside-down, which you still floating [laughter], still flying. Is the earthly dharmadhatu and vajradhatu existence. You still have your parachute open and you're still flying, so to speak, floating, so to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275#t=427.0,577.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275/transcript/68484/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The notion of discipline here becomes very important, the discipline of cutting through notion of deception. As soon as somebody takes the vow of refuge, and also as soon as somebody takes the vow of bodhisattva, there is always problem. That taking the vow does not particularly make you greater, more further. That how the spiritual level exist and furthers in your particular state of being, which is more important. Since there's no magic is involved at all, and it is very important to actually work on a very earth-level situation, very simple level situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275#t=577.0,674.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275/transcript/68484/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The basic relationship with vajra master becomes very clear, if we worked with earth situation. As long as you can work with some kind of mandala principle that exist around, which is to say, there's some kind of harmony between the center and the fringe are completely work together. And coordinated properly, so the whole scheme is based on uplifting students' insight and skillful means and wisdom properly. If we don't have that kind of approach, then we have some kind of problem. And a lot of problems comes from trying to be localized, a provincial approach, that you want to be just one little piece in a pie, that does not want to relate with the rest of the pie properly. And you lost your chance in some sense, you lost your orbit. You lost your sense of responsibility, sense of involvement properly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275#t=674.0,750.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275/transcript/68484/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And on the the other hand that doesn't necessarily mean to say that students should be completely involved in utterly as purely business part of the organization necessarily, but spiritual part of the business organization is very important, if we could put it that way. That you can't get best of the two worlds at once. Not being involved, at the same time taking your goody out in the woods. Which is regarded as something comparable to shoplifting [laughs], in some sense. You just walk in when there's chaos and everybody's getting their piece. Just walk in, take advantage of the chaos, take your little piece then run away into the home in the woods, and chew it, eat it. Like a monkey that's found its fruit perching on its tree. And the problem there is because where the next meal's going to come from, next piece of pie is going to come from. But there's no community feedback. If *you* particularly don't contribute anything to it, then you don't get anything back either. The karmic situation of feed-- offering and receiving is still applies to even the vajrayana level always; much more so than you expected. That vajrayana doesn't transcend karmic retributions and debts and everything either.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275#t=750.0,867.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275/transcript/68484/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Particularly in the vajrayana, that we talk about vajra sangha-ship, which is much more permanent, much more powerful. Sharing everybody's electric circulation together. If you're not one of the parts, it is possible that you could set a fuse, or chaos to the rest of the circuit if one part is missing, that doesn't quite work for the sake of others. That your participation in that little-- that very little, how little may be, how big may be, is seem to be very important. That is part of the mandala principle. Without that kind of ideal, that kind of comf-- sort of comfort, and sense of pride, and sense of willing to take responsibilities, without those that it is not only bad for yourself, but bad for the rest of the vajra sangha at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275#t=867.0,927.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275/transcript/68484/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that seem to be the basic message: that we have to combine together, we have to create earthly existence of that particular spaciousness and the communication link properly. Without that, nothing actually happens. And in fact, you contribute, in particularly vajrayana level, more chaos and more destruction, the rest of your brothers and sisters in the dharma, at the same time. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, maybe we could have some discussions on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275#t=927.0,988.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275/transcript/68484/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, earlier in Berkeley, you were talking about a mutual deception that we had set up-- that you had set up with us. And then earlier this week, you were talking about the vajra master giving his command, and that there was a mutual understanding established at that point. I'm wondering how we got-- how we get from the deception to the understanding, or does the understanding have deception in it as well?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seem to be whole thing depends on the student, at this point. When student come along and say that, with the voice of deception, say, \"I would like to do this and this and this. I would like to practice this and this way.\" Which not really quite true, but student's using as just a matter of way of talking to private secretary. And the deception begin to thicken. And we begin to feel that since student has requested such and such things, that we have to relate with such and such a way, so plot thickens. And so nothing has actually got across, except trying to cut through a little bit, little slit, but somehow usually it is a basic mutual deception, which created from the one end of the stick.\r\n\r\n\r\nAs far as my end of the stick is concerned, very naked. I have nothing to hide in my *whole* life, from morning to evening, evening to morning. Everything is completely clear and open. And my approach to reality is very clear, in terms of dealing with students, very clear. And if somebody brings mutual deception, so to speak, then it is very embarrassing in some sense. Sometimes we have to be embarrassed *for* our students. We feel so embarrassed, that we can't actually tell the truth. [Laughter] So students-- the student is so thick, and so yielding and so sweet or so terrible, whatever. So that seem to be depends on student's role. And so that's one of the things we could clear out in our area here, is please don't do that anymore. [Laughter] Let me just operate in my nakedness with you, your nakedness together, and that would be-- that would work grateful, so grateful if you could do that. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Is that to say that-- well does the deception still work on the vajra command level?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Shouldn't. Sometimes it be cut, and condemned. But if you don't-- we don't want to do that, really. If you can take some mutual responsibilities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275#t=988.0,1212.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275/transcript/68484/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: There seems to be a situation in our Dharmadhatu and Vajradhatu life [laughs] where we get so caught up in Dharmadhatu, Vajradhatu business and things that have to be done and etc., all those things, that often we don't sit as much. And the practice becomes somewhat diluted, because we're so busy maintaining our jobs and responsibilities and activities and so forth. And I was just wondering what you-- how we can balance that better, if you have any suggestions.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's your problem in some sense, if I may say so. At that point I have to be somewhat dispassionate. You were given enough responsibilities, and your responsibility are yours, at the same time. And when we talk about dharmadhatu and vajradhatu in different level, we are talking about allowing space, that is space that you work. It's not so much of a rehabilitation program, a child-caring program, particularly; it is a program of space. Responsibilities comes naturally. If you have a problem relating with your own space, that is unfortunately yours, and delightfully yours. And it is your responsibility how to do that. With-- I could say that with a word of gratitude and understandings from the lineage.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [murmuring]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Lineage.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Lineage. It's your problem, sir. Comes with a ribbon. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275#t=1212.0,1345.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275/transcript/68484/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Back, over there. Frizzy hair?\r\n\r\n\r\nHOWARD HARAWITZ: Yeah. I'd like to address myself to a kind of an organizational point. I've been involved in organizations before, and I've run into a problem just as a member of Dharmadhatu. And that is in dealing with kind of the hierarchical setup, very often I find that the people in the hierarchy don't deal directly with issues as such. What they'll say is, when something comes up that, \"Well, this is the way Rinpoche wants it,\" or something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mm-hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nHOWARD HARAWITZ: And it's very difficult. A lot of times, like, when I try to find out when he said it and who you said it to, that's not very clear. No-- and do you encourage people to like, do that? To just, you know, to kind of pass down orders. Or do-- would you like people to [laughter] you know, kind of-- [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do I want to what?\r\n\r\n\r\nHOWARD HARAWITZ: Do you encourage people in the organization to simply kind of transmit orders about minutia at times? Or to take responsibility themselves, you know, for decisions, and discussing things as such.\r\n\r\n\r\n[laughter; applause]\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Who said that? Oh, you. Well, I wish I could ask you to repeat the question, but that doesn't seem fair, because I did hear it. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nHOWARD HARAWITZ: Well, I'll be glad to repeat it.\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: No, it's not necessary. [Laughter] Well, actually I think that's great. That there's some problem there, so you should stick to your guns and find out what's happening. And don't let people get away with that too much.\r\n\r\n\r\nHOWARD HARAWITZ: I'm glad you said that.\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Yeah. [Laughter] But at the same time...\r\n\r\n\r\n[laughter; applause]\r\n\r\n\r\nYou know, maybe you could be one of them. So I think it all comes down to, you know, whether it's you or the administrators or whoever it is, is obviously, what Rinpoche just said to the last question, it's your responsibility. So you could remind people of *their* responsibility. In the sense that they're not just somehow being dutiful, but what does that actually mean? You know, where is their understanding? As well as your own understanding, you know. Which is not just to be a fly in the ointment, but you could actually have some kind of sharing process so that things do make sense, and everybody could carry on together. [Sighs] [Laughter] So, thank you. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seem to be problem is mutual trust. If there's no mutual trust, there's purely \"us and them.\" You could deal with your parents and yourself. And you could deal with your taxi driver and your passenger, you could deal that with anything else, whole thing. Us and them. That's where the schizophrenia began, right at the beginning of American history. [Laughs] Where there’s organization, and you. Which created also great poetry, of the schizophreniacs who created that great poems, but America opposed to us, as ordinary people. And whole social history begun from all that. But I don't think we have to recreate American chaos, this point. And let us stick to practice, and the Vajradhatu kingdom. Thank you!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275#t=1345.0,1641.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130950/file/245275/transcript/68484/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mm-hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, I don't understand how what you've been talking about in the past few days, about the teacher-student relationship, has any practical application to many of us who have never had any personal contact with you. And it seems that that type of relationship has to be based on some sort of mutual knowing of each other. And yet, because of limitations on your time and things like that, you obviously haven't gotten to know many of us. So, I'd like to know -- it seems very theoretical, in other words, much of your discussions.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe so, some point, but at the same time your presence is very personal. Very experiential than theoretical. And this gathering's hardly could be said is theoretical gathering [laughs]. It's a personal gathering. Everybody's their body is here, including their lungs, and their hearts, and their tongues, and their teeth, and their brain, and their breathing, their mind, their shit, is here gathering together. Which is nothing particular theoretical about the whole thing. And we are very personally involved here.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd apart from that, I think there's no particular further problems; that particular talks been given, for every evening, are made by yourself, in the some sense, that your creation of the talks. That what need to be presented is your creation. Nothing too much-- nothing to do much particularly myself, per se. And also, that when you begin to say those words, that you feel distant relationship -- well, it depends on what kind of attitude you want to take. It could be personal, or distant. Do you have any more to say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well, it just seems that much of what you said applies very directly to your old students, and to your tantra students, and that sort of thing, but that it was something that was-- didn't really apply to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: --many of us--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --speed along in the practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: --the rest of us.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sit a lot. And join tantra group. But not so fast. Sit a lot, practice a lot. Don't think too much. Make your life simple, sir. And get utterly disappointed. And work on *that*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: That's easy to do. 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