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Causes of suffering as not knowing who we are, what is “real”, indecisiveness, holding onto sense of self. Explores three categories of pain or suffering according to Buddhist tradition – all-pervading pain, pain of alternation, pain of pain. All-pervading pain as fundamental discomfort of being an individual; pain of alternation as sometimes experiencing pleasure, sometimes pain; pain of pain as difficult situations piling up one on top of another. Talk drives home unavoidability of suffering, but how we approach it as key. In Q\u0026amp;A, questioners ask about acknowledging something as existing beyond suffering, but Trungpa Rinpoche maintains that working with pain is only way, and how the path in itself is an expression of sanity.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Myth of Freedom","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 03"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: THE MYTH OF FREEDOM: Part 1: The Myth of Freedom: Suffering\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-myth-of-freedom-and-the-way-of-meditation-1073.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 3 (in contained book MYTH OF FREEDOM)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-384.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eJan 02 2020 to Mar 07 2020 Transcribing: Leandra Ziegler Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Terminology Review: Matilda Perks Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eExtending previous talk on impermanence, this talk introduces suffering as further defining experience between birth and death. Causes of suffering as not knowing who we are, what is \u0026ldquo;real\u0026rdquo;, indecisiveness, holding onto sense of self. Explores three categories of pain or suffering according to Buddhist tradition \u0026ndash; all-pervading pain, pain of alternation, pain of pain. All-pervading pain as fundamental discomfort of being an individual; pain of alternation as sometimes experiencing pleasure, sometimes pain; pain of pain as difficult situations piling up one on top of another. Talk drives home unavoidability of suffering, but how we approach it as key. In Q\u0026amp;A, questioners ask about acknowledging something as existing beyond suffering, but Trungpa Rinpoche maintains that working with pain is only way, and how the path in itself is an expression of sanity.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260407-876-4ad7at.mpga"]},"duration":5398.33469,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/307/368/original/open-uri20260407-876-4ad7at.mpga?1775598443","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":5398.33469,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730325VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19730325VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - The Meaning of Death - Talk 3]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled The Meaning of Death held at Tail of the Tiger, Vermont. This is talk number three, \"Pain\", [Suffering] held March 25th, 1973. This is an ARP digital remaster made December, 2006.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: The following talk is on the subject of \"Pain,\" [Suffering], given at Tail of the Tiger, March 25th, 1973. It is a third talk from a seminar on the Meaning of Death.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=0.0,37.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It was quite interesting today, and yesterday, we discussed seemingly quite an extensive discussions on the death and the birth. But nobody had asked what happens between the two. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=37.0,92.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And between the two is suffering. So you have a very potent sandwich. [Laughter] Birth is utter frustration, not knowing what we are, who we are. Accident occurred, that we split ourselves from the mother star. And we become comet -- perpetually burning, developing, suffering towards death. Then we die.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=92.0,183.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Also when we discussed about the energy today, seemingly energy is consist of spaciousness, sympathetic creativity, and question. Question turns into a soured question. Soured question begin to rot. It turns into a pain. That's where the pain came from. We born, we grew up. As we grow up we ask more questions. And the question becomes very indignant, that we have to ask questions. Because we're alive we have to get new informations, more experience as we keep on asking questions. And questions turn into... pain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=183.0,287.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fundamentally, we are dissatisfied that we have to ask questions. Our life is a perpetual continuity of indecision as to what's the real, what's unreal; what is the happiness, what is the misery. That happens simultaneously, as well as happens chapter by chapter, so to speak, as our life goes on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=287.0,358.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In terms of our momentary birth and death situation, in our lifestyle goes, as I have described in previous time, that birth, death happens simultaneously, constantly. But what makes birth turns into death? What's the mechanism? Seemingly, the mechanism is birth open into new situation. We be born -- then keeping up the hassle of the new situation, keep up with the whole thing. And then we turn into a downward journey -- grasp, trying to get a hold of something. And finally you can't get hold of anything and we're dead. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=358.0,431.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we there-- when we die, there's a gap between the birth and death, but still that gap is filled with all kinds of subconscious gossip and immediately we latch into new situations. Possible decisions, we make decisions, we be born again. And then we go over again and again and again and again. That's the pattern that ourselves involve, as we go along in the daily life situations, constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=431.0,506.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Between the birth and death is the suffering. Not as a punishment by some cosmic judge, but suffering because our question turn into hang-up. Immediate after birth, the sense of refreshment, freshness, like experiencing a dawn in the morning. The birds begin to wake up, sing their songs. There's a freshness of air at the atmosphere. You begin to see the silhouettes of the trees and mountains. Each time when we experience that more and more, there's more and more light, more and more clarity. The hazy visions become more prominent. They become more definite, I mean. To the expectation of sunrise, very fresh. Then we watch the glow of the sun coming from the east [laughs], becoming redder and redder. Finally it's turned into white light, sunshine. Which reminds us of repetitiousness of our life, again -- another day. Trying to get up early in the morning and experiencing sunshine didn't really make any happiness, didn't produce any happiness; same thing all over again. Brushing our teeth, cooking breakfast, planning of day ahead. As if infant suddenly turn into a cynical adult, an old hag, immediately.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=506.0,692.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One would prefer that if you could halt the dawn and the sunrise, if you have a power. Try not to make actually sun rise completely, and see the sun. Just hold onto that glowing promise. We prefer to do so, but it seems that we can't, and no one has achieved to do so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=692.0,748.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pain begin to develop as the questions begin to become more solid ones, frustrated question can't be answered, has no promises. What is the meaning of life? What *is* the meaning of life? Hmm. You might get away by saying, \"What is meaning of life? What isn't meaning of life? Everything is life.\" But that seem to be too cute, too clever. Still, the question remains. We could say hypothetically, \"meaning of life is to exist.\" Again, existing for what? What are we trying to *achieve* by leading our life? Well, some people say that life-- meaning of life is to put our effort and energy into higher goals. Commuting between the planet Earth and the moon. Or somebody is becoming enlightened, becoming a great professor, great scientist, great mystic. To improve the world. Clean up the earth from pollution. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=748.0,909.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe those are the meaning of life, that we supposed to do something and actually work hard, to tell people what we know, without any secretiveness. That people would think about our wisdom, our discovery. Show to our children, our friends, students. Or to create better political setup, that reinforcing the democracy that all men are equal, everybody has a right to do whatever they want within the realm of responsibility. [Laughs] To raise the civilization to its highest ideal, so that world is-- world becomes a fantastic place. Place of wisdom, place of enlightenment, place of learning, place of highest form of technology. Plenty to eat, pleasant roof, amiable companies. Nobody is killing each other. Those are the meaning of life. [Laughs; laughter] Sophisticated and *rich* [laughter], and happy. No quarrels, no wars, no poverty. Tremendous high intellect, to know the all the answers. The scientific conclusion, how the jellyfish begun up to how the universe-- cosmos operates. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=909.0,1152.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm not making mockery of it, not at all. A good idea, meaning of life. But have we, ladies and gentlemen [laughs], considered the meaning of death? [Laughs; laughter] The counterpart of life is death. Have you considered that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=1152.0,1222.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The very message of death is painful. If you ask your fifteen years old child to write his will, what he would handled his business after he died, that would be regarded as completely absurd. Nobody would do that. That we refuse to acknowledge with anything to do with pain. Our high ideals of meaning of life, highest form of civilization, has become impractical, in fact. If you don't consider the meaning of suffering, let alone about the death. The death is the actual cessation of existence, but the vanguard of death is, everybody know, is suffering.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=1222.0,1319.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"From that point of view, when you give birth to a child, if you really wanted to hang onto life, that we shouldn't have cut the umbilical cord as we are born. But we have to. The birth in itself is expression of separateness between father, mother, and child automatically. That the child is expressing his or her separateness from you. Approaching towards death, either you're going to witness your child's death or child is going to witness your death. [Laughing] Maybe it's very grim way of looking at-- very distorted way of looking at the maniac we might say. But still, it's true. Any move that we make is a expression of death, or the pain, whatever. Constantly happens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=1319.0,1402.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the case of pain, that there is three categories in the Buddhist tradition. It talks about the pain -- the general pain, the dissatisfaction, separateness, and loneliness. That we are alone, we are lonely person -- for the very reason we can't renew our umbilical cord. We can't say, \"That was a rehearsal.\" [Laughter; laughs] It happened already. So the pain is inevitable, as long as there is a presence of discontinuity, insecurity. The all-pervading pain, and the pain of change and the pain of alternation -- those are the three categories of pain, suffering.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=1402.0,1490.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All-pervading pain is general frustration, that we are made out of aggressive individuals, everybody is made out of aggressive individuals. Whether you are a polite person or blunt person. Seeming happy person or unhappy person, whatever. That when we're trying to become a personage of some kind. Personality, exists as personality itself makes us angry lump of muscles, bundle of muscles, tight and holding together, angry, protecting itself. There's a lot of unhappiness about that. Not exactly unhappiness *obviously*, but we tend to feel that our existence is slightly inconvenient. There's something fundamentally not polite about the whole thing. [Laughter] Or smooth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=1490.0,1586.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fundamentally, there is a sense of discomfort. That we got exist here, that we exist here. You might feel more uncomfortable if you have to go and ask friend to loan money to us. Or ask somebody's help. But nevertheless, even if we are self-contained being, as we are, have plenty money, food, shelter, companionship, but still, there's this little thing that goes on in our being, is still in the way. Something's hanging out, that we constantly have to keep shielding from it, keep hiding. Something had to be watchful about the whole thing, in *case* something happens. \"In case if I goof out.\" But still we are uncertain as to what we are going to goof out. What can you blow up? There is a sort of cosmic understanding that there is something that we have to keep secret, that we shouldn't goof out. Which is not nameable actually. It has no logic, no title, but here's something still.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=1586.0,1710.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So fundamentally, how happy we may be, that we are still careful and angry. That we don't want to really get-- we really don't want to give this away, this thing, whatever it is. Of course we could define by saying that, \"I didn't get enough sleep last night, therefore I feel funny today, and I don't want to go to my work today, if I goof something.\" Or \"I have a cold. I don't feel any capability of dealing with my friends, so better not invite for the dinner tonight.\" Or, [laughing] *infinite* possibilities of justifying ourselves. But still that's not really true. [Laughing] Not quite. [Laughter]. There's still something fundamentally, that we really don't want to let other people know what it's all about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=1710.0,1803.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's pain, real meaning of pain. That \"I don't want to goof out.\" Or, \"I don't want to blow up the whole scene.\" You will tell your family when you are working with your company, you tell your wife or husband, say, \"I don't want to goof up this thing.\" That's another layer, seem to be, or whatever. And that when you're dealing with your family, your friends, you tell your other friends that \"I don't want to goof up with this area.\" Strangely enough, everybody seem to understand what you mean by \"I don't want to goof up.\" [laughter] That they are sympathetic with you-- you don't even have to explain what's all about. [Laughs; laughter] It's open secret.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=1803.0,1929.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"If only I could get rid of 'this.' This 'our thing,' then I'll be relieved. I can feel free.\" That's pain, that's pain, *real* pain. It's not as polite as it seem to be. That the goofing out euphemism is more than just exposing whatever there is, but it's more painful. Fundamentally aggressive, angry, at... \"dot, dot, dot.\" No names. You're angry at \"something,\" about \"that,\" -- that which we know, that which we don't talk about, even we can't describe. The unnameable private parts that we don't want exposed, or even look into. Pain, that's real fundamental pain. You could call it neurosis. You could call it inefficience [sic] in your intelligence, samsaric mind, whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=1929.0,2089.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, we could see the fundamental politeness is consist of fundamental pain. Synonym. All-pervading pain. Out of that all kinds of other chaos begin to occurred when we trying to conceal ourselves. Pain of losing friend. Pain of have to attack enemy. Pain of making money. Pain of wanting to get credentials. Pain of existence. Pain of that you have to wash up your dishes, clean up your house, have to relate with your people, your friends. Pain of your duty. Pain of somebody might watch over your shoulder, that you haven't been efficient. [Laughs] Pain of relationships, all kinds.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=2089.0,2185.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"From that fundamental way of keeping the whole *grasping* situation as decent, while still being indecent, which is the pain. That doesn't mean to say that we have to become a complete freak, and freestyle. Still the private part's there. Trying to become freestyle is another cop out. And trying to keep the area of decency also another cop out. So there's fundamental pain, general pain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=2185.0,2249.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there's the pain of alternation, which is realizing that there is a burden on you. And some stage you begin to feel that burden has been relieved, because you feel free. You don't have to keep up with yourself constantly enough, anymore. But that sense of alternating between the two is kind of sanity and insanity, alternating again and again one after another.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=2249.0,2294.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there is the pain of pain, which is the third one. Which is you are already insecure, feels uncertain about your area. On the top of that, another message of insecurity comes, becomes very painful. Which is... you've lost your leg, and on top of that you are having a ulcer. Or you be abandoned by your friend. On the top of that you had an accident. You been rejected by your wife. And on top of that you've been stabbed by your son. [Laughter; laughs] You think it's funny? [Laughs; laughter] It's a very sad situation. It's pain of pain, that happens constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=2294.0,2425.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you have a general pain of keeping up your private parts, and not able to cover the whole your area. And then you have a pain of alternating from \"this\" to \"that.\" Then you have pain *of* pain. And those areas seem to-- those three categories of pain, suffering, seem to be a... They occur in a very short situation, quick situation. Or span of your life situation, whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=2425.0,2472.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it seems the suffering constitute our lifestyle. If you decide to have a vacation in Paris, planning to have a good time. Something went wrong -- that our expected friend, long expected friend, had an accident. He was in hospital, and his family is very upset about the whole thing, unable to provide you with the hospitality that you'd expected. Instead you have to stay in the hotel, which you can't afford to do so, and your money is running out and short and short. At the same time you decide to try to exchange your money in black market, and you got ripped off. [Laughter; laughs] And your supposedly friends who had the accident and who is in the hospital suddenly decide to disliking you, regarding you as a nuisance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=2472.0,2637.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Trying to get back home, round ticket. You couldn't get back. Whole schedule is canceled, because of weather. You are really desperate now. Every hour, every second is important for you. You're pacing up and down in this airport. Suddenly your friend is sick, he had to be taken to the hospital, and your visa is running out. You have to get out of soon, out of the country. And trying to explain to the officials is very difficult because you don't speak French. [Laughter] Only friend you have is the friend that didn't invite you. Commute with the taxis back and forth is expensive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=2637.0,2749.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Situation occurs all the time, I wouldn't say a particularly extraordinary situation, at all. But it's one of the situations of pain -- that you are speeding trying to get rid of pain, that you get more pain by doing so, constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=2749.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, pain is very *real* situation. We can't pretend to be that we are all happy and secured, but pain is constantly happening all the time. There seem to be life situation that goes on, which comes between the birth and death. The all-pervading pain, pain of alternation, and pain *of* pain, top of another one. Which is very real [laughing] in fact. It's very definite. If we are looking for eternity of some kind, security of some kind, that experience of life consists of pain, duhkha, suffering. Without having pain there's no other way of relating with our life situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have discussions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=2820.0,2916.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: The situation that you just described in Paris, where one situation gets worse and worse and worse. How can we avoid such snowballing? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How can we avoid? You're stuck in the void. Did you say how can we avoid that?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: The snowballing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: That's right.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: The snowballing, the snowballing effect, he's saying.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: How can we escape it, not know what happens to it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the problem seem to be is, that if you try to-- I mean obviously you're trying very hard to make whole thing smooth. By doing so, you get more and more snowballed up. At that point you can't do anything. [Laughter] Externally, to avoid, I mean, you-- with your visa run out already, you know that. You can't do anything with that. Philosophy doesn't help. [Laughter] And your friend is sick, and philosophy doesn't help with that, you know. You can't avoid that. And your friend rejects you. Maybe you could do something but still, I mean it's too hypothetical. I mean, you can't do anything with it, really. I mean that's the kind of situation, precisely what I mean. It's the *unavoidable* situation that do occur to us. And the whole point is not trying to avoid it, but see your own neurosis in it. Like replay of the whole thing, that watching itself going through the whole thing, and keep some kind of general composure. That pain is truth. What else?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=2916.0,3059.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What about cause and effect?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which context?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is it karma that brought you into this snowball situation to begin with?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yea, but once you threw out insensitive situations, if you are not aware of what you're doing, you're being purely want to get *your* reward -- because you want to be happy, because you want to achieve some personal comfort. As long you begin to do that, you going to get back a snowball effect, constantly. So you sow already seed with a very blind situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=3059.0,3105.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is there another way of getting that same positive energy of that snowball? I mean, it is felt to me that that snowball is largest just before there's any glimpse of progress. Is there another way of getting a large snowball?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: For what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: For having glimpses of clarity.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you could see the whole foolishness of the whole thing. But once you have that, you can't do anything. It's like you have bought already a second-hand car [laughter], and you trying to sell it again. [Laughter] I mean, [laughing] it's already done, you created the karma. At the time when you bought it, you might feel that you are smart and you [laughs] could do something with it, which others didn't do it. Because other people didn't buy it because they are smart. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=3105.0,3221.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: If pain is truth, then how come you call it neurosis?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because it true neurosis. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=3221.0,3244.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Then Rinpoche, what gives rise--\r\n\r\n\r\n[unknown incident; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What gives rise to this whole-- what seems to be a whole fantasy that we all have about happiness. About the fact that there are situations which are fulfilling, when in fact it seems to be not the case at all, that that seems to be just a... Is that just part of a cosmic joke?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's-- if you have to be subject of the joke, it's not funny. It's quite painful. As we know.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But what creates that? Why do we all seek that way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you're asking me? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=3244.0,3333.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: There seems to be a curious difference between the mark of existence of transiency and the mark of existence of pain. [Laughter] That I can say everything is transient -- rocks, trees, people. But you can't-- the pain doesn't seem to have anything to do with rocks and trees, inanimate objects. Are they both talking about exactly the same thing? [Laughter] That's... Pain and transiency. Pain just seems like a psychological thing, you have beings, animals, maybe plants. The transiency holds for living things and rocks, trees, trucks. [Unknown incident; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, pain is very phenomenological experience, and transition, what you call the impermanence, is metaphysical description of nature. I mean, pain obviously had to be a personal experience. We are not talking about pain from the point of view of rocks or the trees. We are talking about pain from the point of view of us. And impermanence, is we're talking from point of view of everything. The things what we perceive is not lasting situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well then, it seems that you're meaning two different things by \"existence.\" In the first place, everything; and in second place it narrows down.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's everything as well as, when you say \"everything\" which means-- which includes you as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=3333.0,3495.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: When I put my hand on a stove, I pull it away, and that-- I mean a hot stove. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I feel pain when I do that and that's a signal to me that something that I'm protecting, namely my hand, is in danger. Now, that in some sense seems to me to be valid, because there's no sense in frying my hand. But when I do that in a psycholog-- if I don't pull my hand away, metaphorically, in a psychological sense, what happens? I mean, is it poss--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, same thing. Because you get hurt. Don't you think so? I mean you can't change the course of reality--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --by getting to a different school of thoughts. Either you are approaching phenomenologically or psychologically. It boils down to same thing, that your hand is going to be hurt.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: If I-- is it good to avoid pain or bad? Or is that a question, you know... [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=3495.0,3585.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You have to control the pain like in your mind? You know cut off the pain by your thoughts?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you don't have a body you can do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But can't you transcend both though?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean suicidal kind of thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: No, I mean I've heard of lamas or guru walking on fire and not being affected by it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs; laughter].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But you can withstand cold, with your mind you will cut off the cold--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --and you can withstand the pain. [Laughter] Your mind can cut it off.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: If you believe in the pain then you'll suffer.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But if you control your mind you can control reactions.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But still, you're going to die. And we haven't heard anybody who lived for...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well, then the mind--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --three thousand years.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --isn't functioning to control anything.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I don't see what death has to do with controlling the mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, death has to do with the controlling in order to exist. [INAUDIBLE] so it last longer. Controlling physical decay, in order to exist longer.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, precisely. That includes--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Decay is physical?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --walking on the fire. I forget your question, which is… can you say it again?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=3585.0,3704.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well, in my original question was, you know, if-- oh can you-- what happens if you don't avoid pain, is it good or bad to avoid pain [INAUDIBLE]. I mean you say if I leave my hand in the fire it's going to burn. But on the other hand, it seems to me from what you said before, is that, if you go around avoiding pain, that's going to pretty much ensure-- and that's looking at it in a one-sided way, what you were saying before, because you're only seeing--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --you're only seeing--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --you see, the whole point--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --and I'm sure you're going to be in the fire.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The whole point of pain is, we're not talking about petty pain, or little confrontations with a direct threat. But we are talking about pain in general. Psychological... they softened, we can't experience pain. Actually, physically if you put your hand on the stove, you got burned. And you still willing to do it, that's more of martyrdom than experiencing the pain. The real pain occurred psychologically, security. I mean physically, in fact, that's the precisely what's been gone wrong, in the past history. Like a buddhist monk burning himself in Vietnam. And all kinds of expression, you can do it with the expression of frivolousness. Seemingly that you don't care about the pain. But that's pain is interpreted in a very simple-minded way. Throwing himself off cliff, you know, is easy to do, because it's a immediate situation, but you can't experience pain or face the pain in a prolonged situation. That you be constant suspended by pain. That seem to be the differences.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo when we talk about experiencing pain, or relating with the pain this case, is the fundamental pain, which goes along with the energy, of a physical body. I mean the person who experiences the fundamental pain and working with it would be able to take their care of their body. And they walk appropriate situation crossing the road. Because that does not suggest suicide.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=3704.0,3886.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: You just said, \"a person who experiences fundamental pain.\" Would that be a rare person, as far as most of us go? Do we actually experience-- realize that what you normally consider life is fundamental pain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's very rare, yeah, hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: So that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That seem to be a problem, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: --and that's more or less the point of your talk that a...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I hope so, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: You're saying all this-- really this-- if you wish to learn, then you really need this pain. And that the-- one really shouldn't look for the happiness there so directly.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean it-- I think that seem to be obvious, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: You know, wouldn't it be that if you really looked around, what to looked for, you would find pain and if you really--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you open yourself to experience the life situation is a manifestation of the teaching, then pain comes spontaneously, because that *is* life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=3886.0,3972.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: How do you deal with this in a culture that's so devoted to avoiding pain, it's-- that's so really devoted to comfort?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that accentuate the pain. I mean, when you make more emphasis on the pleasure, and there's a higher rate of suicide and higher rate of self-destruction that comes, you know, that obviously happens. That's natural thing; that's why, in fact, we are here together, is because there's a tremendous contradiction, and that is why Buddhism comes to the West. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=3972.0,4031.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Rinpoche, do you think when you open yourself up to the pain, you also open yourself up to true happiness and joy at the same time?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=4031.0,4055.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: It seems if you go-- or if the pain takes us far enough, and maybe even as far as accepting it, that sometimes after that we might even feel it would be a kind of death. We might find the opposite -- something, you know, very beautiful and very vivid, or some kind of insight. And is it possible to also learn from happiness at that time? I mean, at the moment it seems very seductive, it almost seems to make the pain worse or to bring it back.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Could you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, pain means happiness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=4055.0,4104.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Could you relate this to the other truths, or the four noble truths? It seems like we've been discussing one of the four, just the pain.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the other one-- others doesn't say \"pleasure.\" The other four noble truths talk about origin of pain, and freedom, and the path.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Well then what is the origin of pain? We've been talking about pain so far as origin -- is that the cause of pain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, which I think we covered. We discussed about that as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Then the cessation of pain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Cessation of pain, or freedom of pain, is realizing it. It doesn't suggest pure happiness, particularly. I mean the pain doesn't have to be related with happiness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Well, if life itself between birth and death is, as you said, pain--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: --then is there cessation of pain with life, or is that with respect to death?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No [laughing] I wouldn't say that. It's-- life consist of realizing the pain, which includes irrelevant of the pain, which means cessation of the pain. Because the whole point is, we don't really dislike the pain. We like pain, that's the whole point. That we begin to realize that pain is our way of identifying ourselves, or pain is something that we could prove our existence. People like to have that occupation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: So would then the third-- would the cessation of pain be complete realization of pain without any--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Occupational, without any occupational thing, That entertainment from the pain.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Then would the fourth be?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The path. The working with the pain. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=4104.0,4241.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Is there avoid-- isn't avoid psychological pain by maybe avoiding attachments? Like this feeling of rejection we talked about -- if one truly loved oneself, then we need not feel rejected by a friend or by a new--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's doing the same thing. You're catching yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Catching yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Conning yourself. I mean, that's very... not even sneaky enough. [Laughs] It's too simple approach, to get out of the pain.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Well, I don't think it's simple, you know, you must-- a lot of people don't have enough love for themselves, so it's not simple [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean then--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: --for yourself or even [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --would love yourself *with* something else. With the attitude of being happy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Isn't that happiness? Self-love, knowing yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Know yourself, I know, that sounds good but [laughter], I don't believe that. Something more than that, you know, it's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: What about enlightenment? I mean, isn't that, you know, peace of mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Can't you achieve peace of mind or release--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: --realize peace of mind--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --you could,--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: --through enlightenment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure, you could. Only if you don't want to be witnessed by yourself, make sure that you achieve enlightenment. So in other word, you cannot celebrate your enlightenment.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: You can't celebrate it alone?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or-- alone, or at parties, whatever. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=4241.0,4374.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: It seems that the more one avoids pain, the more one never really truly has any-- is pleased by anything. And it seems there's a dynamic relationship between pain and pleasure, as there is between birth and death. Could you elaborate on this?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that whole thing is that, trying to create a situation in which that you could eliminate pain, produce supposedly pleasure. But in order to keep pleasure going, you have to create maintenance to worry about the pain. So that's reciprocal, whatever you do. Even you might use spiritual means to do such thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo the only alternative, if you call it alternative at all, is to give up hope altogether. And approach your attitude to another dimension, which does not involve pain or the pleasure. Which doesn't have to be particularly that you are giving up your life and your stove's burning, you don't pay telephone bills, anything like that. But it doesn't become carefree, but new area of sanity. I mean, that seem to be whole point -- that if you begin to toss around the ideas of enlightenment is also connected with the pleasure achievement, that you have to make yourself remain in enlightenment. Which is a samsaric competitive notion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=4374.0,4498.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: So then sanity isn't exactly moments of illumination or seeing things in-- seeing things very beautifully or vividly. That isn't exactly what sanity is, *that* side of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, sanity is just purely beginning of the path, from that point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: I don't understand.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: I don't understand.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, sanity is just seeing the perspective of the path. That there is a path, you're walking on that path, that is sanity. Rather than is the goal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=4498.0,4534.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Back to this question of suicide. The-- does-- this afternoon you said something about cultures had basically always put suicide down. And that that was an insight into it not being-- but that doesn't seem too persuasive, you know. It seems like cultures are into putting suicide down because of cultures trying to perpetuate themselves. And a species trying to perpetuate itself, so it says, \"You shouldn't commit suicide.\" Because suicide might be rational, it might be a rational choice at a certain time. Just say, \"That's the last situation like that I'm going to try to deal with.\" [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nI don't understand what the arguments against it are, except ones that go back toward things about the self like self-respect, courage, warriorhood, warriorship, whatever it is. Some-- a whole bunch of ideas that are very much involved with one looking at oneself a certain way. It feels like circles to me.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you trying to say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Well, is that the basis, I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, do you want to--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: No. [Laughter] But it goes back to the thing about--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why not? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: But because of those things. Because of living it through.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Living what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Living it through.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The living *in*?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Living *it* through, whatever it is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Living it through.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: But that's different than saying there's a big injunction against it. You kept referring to suicide a lot tonight, you know, in this way like it was a sort of a cheap way out. Why... cheap?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why did you ask the question anyway?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: I was thinking about what you said about the monk in Vietnam, and what--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: --and what you meant by that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Frivolous?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Why?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't think it's frivolous?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What would you say? I mean, what you said is a reciprocal-- it's, I can't answer you. And something had to come out of you as well at the same time--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --while we are talking--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: But I would say courageous, in the context of the situation. Honorable, and worthy of respect.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure if you are involved with that kind of a mentality. But how about himself?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean nobody congratulate him afterwards.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Well, but seems all the more so in terms of the way that he understood the situation, with his values, and with his beliefs. Since he would probably have to deal with a lot of the things that you said about suicide before, before he choose that kind of an action. I mean it's not important whether somebody congratulates him; it's important whether it enters the history of that situation a certain way.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think it's particularly involved with the making history. But it's his own emotional involvement with politics, that what went around Vietnam that time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: So it's like-- so it's not a choice?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: How do you know it's not a choice?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Had no choice?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: It seemed like it was a choice and that it tried to affect the events. And it wasn't--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: --just a confession of feelings--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --that was his own choice.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Rather than choice, you know, of the rest of the country. I mean it's very simple, primitive, almost you could say animalistic thing to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=4534.0,4809.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: But it's only killing a body, not the whole-- we're immortal. [Laughter] See you can't really kill because, you can't kill the soul, the soul lives on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Perhaps what he's saying it was inspirational, and furthered the cause of peace. Now whether it was successful or not...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean it's hardly called inspiration.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: To the individual--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To the individual--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: --about his choice.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's-- that's why I use the word \"frivolousness.\" I mean frivolousness is also inspiration. To be frivolous, you know, it's tremendous fun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=4809.0,4855.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sorry, we didn't get together this point, I-- what was the core of the whole thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: I'm not sure, I think it's about physical death, but I don't-- I don't know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, physical death, yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: [INAUDIBLE] and it keeps turning like that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --Yeah. Yeah. It's a...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: It's something like the *reasons* why you don't-- I mean it seems like physical death is one of the situations that you could manipulate in a lot of different ways. That's what it seems to me. And it seems to mean a lot of other things in the way you're talking about it, because of a sense of energies living on, consciousness that's living on, whatever, whatever kind of a thing that is. But it seems to me you can *choose to use* your physical death, or you could choose to enter it, and that it would depend on the situation whether that [INAUDIBLE] historical--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that physical death is the way of providing very simple means to survive oneself, rather than actually killing oneself. It's not a act of survival, that you could perpetuate the ideals, or the idea, or the strength, or the doctrine, or the dogma, whatever. It's a very primitive, like kill animal and eat it on the spot, instead of cooking it or [laughing] roasting it, whatever, skinning out or whatever. Suicide.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: But wasn't he--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Lots of tools in the tool chest. A hammer is a primitive tool.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean, which is very crude--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: That's how the whole thing happens--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: -- and it doesn't communicate anything, to yourself or to the others. That it becomes a sudden shock, which does not have the space to relate with the language. I mean the words become extremely important at some point. And sort of doing things. That words provide tremendous space, gap, in which they have a lot of ideas to-- could be exchanged. Acknowledging language and just purely doing it bluntly. Like just purely, you know, shooting down and bombing down language.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=4855.0,5026.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Rinpoche, but aren't we instrumental in the suffering of other people?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Could be what?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Instrumental. I mean, sometimes we are defeated by the suffering of other people. And sometimes we are defeated by not doing anything about it. How do you get out of that? There is a lot of unnecessary [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There is what? Physical actions?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: [INAUDIBLE] different ways. And certainly many of us follow who suffer from that, from things that are not necessarily good. I mean, war is not something that's involved in our community. And then [INAUDIBLE]. And can we live without this frivolous if we do something very-- maybe the intent was not the perpetuation of himself, you know, by killing his physical body, that just making something heard.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But that seem to be the problem, there is not clarity involved.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: I thought he make this clear when I read the newspaper, I thought that I have to do something too. You know, I didn't think about killing myself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there could be said in the frivolousness.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: [INAUDIBLE] Then how-- how aren't we-- how do we do it so it is *not* frivolous [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, for one thing, it's experiencing both angles of situations. And another thing is some sense of deliberateness. Either we're going to perpetuate the neurosis of the society, or we are going to *become* one of the nuisance to society.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Very often by *not* doing anything we perpetuate neurosis of society. That's actually maybe a bit more common, the more common situation. There are a lot of intolerable things thatgo on\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: --[INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't have to be silent majority as they talk about. You can do something, sure. But *how* you do it, make sure that you're-- what you're doing does not relate with the opposite effect. You often could do. Particularly in the political, social, you know, activities, like demonstrations and things that goes on. You could in fact, give the wrong impression to the public, by seeming the right attitude. But you haven't considered the *effect* that going to get other people.\r\n\r\n\r\nI mean it's very tricky, you know, you have to really feel the every blade of grass that goes on in the country, when you begin to do something. Particularly in terms of political move, whatever you do. And the politic automatically means that that politic has application of the rest of the country, or much of the rest of the world, maybe. And you have to be aware of the whole thing, have to be knowledgeable. And if you do something purely that *you* felt that should be done, that could perpetuate of the opposite. In fact you are creating more chaos in the name of order.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=5026.0,5252.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: But is there an obligation in that sense to continue dealing with the situation in your physical reality? I mean, in one sense, the-- I mean to continue dealing with it, [INAUDIBLE] the fact that you can't back out. Couldn't-- I mean in one sense, the act of suicide, it's just an extension of withdrawal, or of cutting through. Not in the sense of you are putting yourself into-- complicating more, and you hope that it's all going to end, but knowing that it's probably not anyway. It's just-- it's simply an action in the time and place and it cuts through certain--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: -- place, it cuts through the continuity of always talking, you know, [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean it had to be-- I mean there's no general prescription at all, you know, it had to be individual cases, really. And if you are master of the situation, you will see it. There's no general prescription at all. I mean that's why whole thing is very tricky.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=5252.0,5328.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: When you stop trying to identify yourself, then you can hope that you will not, as a reaction to the pain, react in destructive anger. But isn't it an illusion to think that you can also eliminate the experience of pain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that means you haven't related with the pain properly. Pain is still regarded as something that should get rid of, rather than pain could transmute itself into inspiration.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: So what you can do is, you can have it so that your e-- in other words why the elimination of the-- of trying to identify yourself, of trying towards maintain your ego, you can hope to eliminate anger as a reaction, but not necessarily eliminate pain at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yeah, yeah. Hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=5328.0,5381.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92682/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We might have to close this point ladies and gentlemen. The meeting is adjourned. [Laughter] Goodnight!\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=5381.0,5398.33469"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92683","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730325VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92683/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=0.51,4.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92683/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar entitled\nThe Meaning of Death held at\nTail of the Tiger, Vermont.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=4.16,7.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92683/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number three,\n\"Pain\", [Suffering]\nheld March 25th, 1973.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=7.95,14.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92683/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital remaster\nmade December, 2006.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=14.28,19.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92683/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: The following talk\nis on the subject\nof \"Pain,\" [Suffering],","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=19.71,22.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92683/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given at Tail of the Tiger,\nMarch 25th, 1973.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368#t=22.36,26.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/168968/file/307368/transcript/92683/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is a third talk\nfrom a seminar\non the Meaning of 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