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Relationship with teacher as means for doing so; how Kagyu teachers all have their own styles but meet at same point, of giving up ego. Teachings as working with our sense of identity, pride, seen through historical example of Marpa with Naropa. Commitment completely essential, even in face of hardships. Describes fascinating process of \"committing body, committing speech, committing your mind\" to lineage, as way of becoming part of it. Tradition of sanity passed down from original lineage holders until now, with teachings completely up-to-date. Connection to lineage as not based on blind faith, but intelligent faith"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["SRCBOOK: 1976 SELECTED TALKS ON LINEAGE AND DEVOTION (out-of-print):  Chapter 3: Marpa\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\nSRCBOOK: 1996 LINEAGE AND DEVOTION SOURCEBOOK (out-of-print): Chapter 15: Marpa\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\nSRCBOOK: 1999 LINEAGE AND DEVOTION SOURCEBOOK (out-of-print): Chapter 15: Marpa"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Dec 07 2019 to Nov 11 2020\nTranscribing: Ella Milligan\nChecking: Leandra Ziegler\nFinal Proof: Travis May\nTerminology Review: Mark Nowakowski, Matilda Perks\nOther Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["A talk that introduces special focus of the Kagyu lineage, which is surrendering insanity and trading it for sanity. Relationship with teacher as means for doing so; how Kagyu teachers all have their own styles but meet at same point, of giving up ego. Teachings as working with our sense of identity, pride, seen through historical example of Marpa with Naropa. Commitment completely essential, even in face of hardships. Describes fascinating process of \"committing body, committing speech, committing your mind\" to lineage, as way of becoming part of it. Tradition of sanity passed down from original lineage holders until now, with teachings completely up-to-date. Connection to lineage as not based on blind faith, but intelligent faith"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This is the first talk of The Life and Teachings of Marpa seminar given at Tail of the Tiger, August [ed: September] 1973.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=0.0,11.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'd like to welcome everyone to take part in this seminar. Much of that we might discuss in this seminar is connected with discussing the styles of the Kagyupa lineage, and its eccentricities in dealing with students and arriving at a certain experience as students, and how those interactions takes place in the imagery of Marpa. There has been books published on Naropa, Mila, and Gampopa, but nothing has been so far produced on life and teaching of Marpa. And because of that problem, a lot of us seem to have not actually accomplished complete understanding of the meanings and messages of teaching from Marpa, this case, which has become problem somewhat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=11.0,127.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"To begin with, I might discuss the different approaches, styles that had developed by certain teacher, and also different approaches, style developed by certain students and how those can be worked together. I think one of the first problem there is that impossibilities of working together with the student and certain teacher together is because there is a certain lack of communication and a certain sense of unyielding from both student and teacher's part, which plays important here. That is to say, that going back and back, back from that basic logic is that which resists from fitting into our preconceptions. And not able to yield ourselves or surrender ourselves into a situation of learning, teaching situation is because that we would like to preserve some identity of our pride, our existence. And we don't want to be made into mockery for one thing. That another thing we don't want to made into slave.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=127.0,262.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And those are the obstacles or the problems in relating with student attitude towards teacher. [someone sneezes] And that-- gesundheit. [laughter] That has been one of the starting point, starting situations in which that such advanced teachers are missed or fail to see them, their method of teaching. And that is-- that goes on throughout the whole process of history of Kagyupa lineage. That applies to Naropa, Marpa, Milarepa, and Gampopa, and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=262.0,354.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's a sense of some kind of basic pride that we would like to keep, we would like to hold, sense of identity we would like to maintain in terms of our ego. And that is the actual blockage, that we fail ourselves to accept that to the part of the lineage family, family of lineage traditions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=354.0,407.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Obviously, that if you are struck by chaos in your family, you become orphan. In Aberfan [mining] disasters in Wales, and you are suddenly adopted by a Jewish family, and you will certain not give into that. That, \"I'm still Welsh, and I'm proud person in spite of that disaster that happened in our village. But I will let my myself not give into that. I would-- I'm not going to adopt by the Jewish family.\" Many cases, nationalism is good, extremely good and necessary to keep your gut, one's pride on one's land, inheritance, culture, language, poetry. But, on the other hand, those become tremendous obstacles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=407.0,509.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That more you’re educated, the more you become skeleton that can't be communicated by anybody. You have your fixed notion of you should be \"that,\" you should be \"this.\" And surrendering to a master or teacher [laughter] is, obviously, big challenge. That it is not purely accepting in a certain ethnic cultural situation, which might be fun to do so, get into it. There might be some excitement involved. But getting into a spiritual discipline, becoming part of a lineage of something, rather, it is very challenging. That we have to give our mind away to somebody, our consciousness, our awareness, our intelligence. And extremely threatening that we can't trade our brain into some other schmuck that supposedly good. [laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=509.0,608.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that seem to the problem, obviously. You might surrender yourself to a physical situation, but you don't want to give in psychologically into that. Let somebody have the complete intelligence of your neurosis or whatever, and in turn, somebody gives you sanity. And you know no sanity. And you be afraid of what sanity means. It could be something horrible. [laughter] It could be something terrible that you finally end up with this sanity, and you may not like it. [laughs; laughter] ]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=608.0,683.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that's the basic logic here. Discussing Marpa's life that we're going to do is discussing surrendering insanity as a barter exchange, that we are getting his sanity instead. Surrendering insanity means also surrendering your habitual patterns of our state of mind and neurosis patterns of all kinds, the things we used to indulge ourselves in it. And we have to give up all those. And we might have to give up reading Time Magazine before go to bed or reading in the toilet. [laughter] Or we might have to give up reading novels when we get bored. We might have to give up anything. The personal indulgence had to be given up. That seem to be the starting point. That seem to be the problem at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=683.0,783.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The idea for lineage is that lineage has also developed its own, obviously, characteristic marks of all kinds, styles of all kinds. The lineage has also developed its own pattern, system of working with our basic sanity, and system of all kinds had developed naturally. It had function itself. It has system of its own pattern. And usually those patterns are not entertaining. That pattern that has been handed down by generation by generations who are extremely painful to the point of unpleasant in our ego's satisfaction. They're very tough and extremely right to the point embarrassingly, and it's so immediate and so direct. Therefore, it is extremely irritable, because the techniques of the message of the lineage demands direct exposing ourselves, our egomaniac state of being, exposing ourselves constantly, completely, and also taking pride in that as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=783.0,903.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there are different styles of doing that. Is that you can take analysis of Naropa's style, Tilopa's style, or Marpa's style, Mila style, whatever. You could take all those patterns, but nevertheless the message is always same thing. So committing oneself into this particular lineage, which is seem to be same as any other lineage, but we are talking about this particular Kagyu lineage in this case. Is not a particularly pleasant one. Hmm. [laughter] It demands lot. It ask us unreasonable questions. And it is more expensive. You have to spend lot of energy and money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=903.0,975.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That Marpa has to gather tons of gold dust before he go to India. And having collected gold dusts and gold petals, he just barely received the teachings that he wanted to receive. And he had to make more gold. He had to go back to Tibet, make more gold. Instead of those days talking about making money, they talk about making more gold. And so he went back to Tibet and made more gold, second time. And third time he made more gold, received more teaching. And third time he thought he's going to get far most important and highly important, highly powerful teaching that he going to receive if made enough gold. He was led to believe it. And he made tremendous gold. And he went back to India, and met his teacher Naropa. And Naropa was presented with the gold dust, and he just throw it away. Extraordinary thing happened there. And he say that, \"Everything is gold.\" And Naropa stamped his foot on the ground, and Marpa suddenly saw that the dust and the trees and the rocks and the rest of it in the vicinity are actually made out of gold. He saw it. So his little gold is just primitive approach. That Naropa is enjoying himself in a world of gold. So that little gold doesn't mean anything to him, Naropa. But it mean lot to Marpa, great deal. He worked for it diligently. Lots of hardships involved. And there was last meeting of Naropa and Marpa.\r\n\r\n\r\n[unknown gesture or incident;\r\n\r\n\r\nlaughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=975.0,1163.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it seem to be that relating with the-- our lineage is very expensive. Psychological pressure and materialistic pressure. Not only expensive but it is energy consuming. It challenges great deal. And one has to pay for those when one begins to commit oneself into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=1163.0,1221.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So first important point that we have to set up here to understand is that commitment is important. Knowing all kinds of hardships might come about, but still, commitment is extremely important, extremely important. If you don't commit, you don't get anything. Not because that the-- there was a copyright, or there was a registrar, or there was a bursar who was keeping you away from the organization, but because your own commitment is the guideline, how much you can open yourself, how much you *can't* open yourself into it. So you can't become the children of Marpa if you don't commit ourselves into it-- children of the Kagyu lineage, if you don't commit ourselves, completely giving.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=1221.0,1289.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The style of giving could be said is all kinds of ways. For one thing, there is blind faith that you can do anything. You believe what you seen; therefore, you just wanted to go along, seemed to be good. Where you don't ask anything. Another thing is that you do ask questions about your own state of being and the situation of the teachings at the same time. So basic suggestion that was given is the second one: that you don't just go along because what you want in terms of blind faith. But you actually do go along because of what you feel is you feel right in the situation that you're involvement, although it is painful. There is some sense of love and hate relationships -- that you want to give in, but you don't want to give in. That kind of situation happens naturally. So it would be necessary to give in to those situations of some kind of challenge had to be met. Otherwise, the relating with the lineage or the representation of the lineage or the teacher of the lineage is regarding like a cow that you can milk out whenever you run out of your milk. And the blind faith approach is, as long as there is a cow and cow has been fed, you can milk anytime. It's another machine. In fact, less realistic than putting your quarter in a box and then getting your Coke out of it. Even there's not that much relationships involved. Milking cow is just organic and simple animal instinct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=1289.0,1426.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the commitment seem to play extremely part in this study of Marpa's style of Kagyupa tradition. Commitment plays extremely important part. The commitment-- the style of commitment is divided in three process: committing body, committing speech, committing your mind. Committing one's body, this case, is physically, materialistically, that one is willing to go through hardships and pains of discipline. One's energy is willing to communicate with it, the style of discipline of the lineage. As well as one's practice is also regarded as a donation. Sitting, meditating is regarded as a donation as well at same time as signs of one's payment in the some sense. That you enjoy yourself in the sitting, practicing, meditating and one years retreat or six months retreat, whatever you have. [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=1426.0,1510.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And speech, surrendering from speech level is-- speech is representing intellect, communication level. That any kind of level where intellect has been also donated, given away. One's preconceptions are no longer functioning. That your open-mindedness is in the service of the teaching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=1510.0,1542.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In terms of giving mind, is the emotions. Whatever emotions arises that is also part of the minds of the lineage. That you are included in it. Aggression, passion, hatred, whatever you have, those emotions are regarded as part of the stepping stones of going on the path of the teaching. That relating with the lineage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=1542.0,1572.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All things surrendered. That you don't own anything; you don't possess anything. You are completely at the mercy of the lineage, completely, fully. With intelligentness [sic] at the same time. It's not blind faith at this point, but it's sense of openness, complete openness, which is extremely necessary this case. If you don't understand [this], we have no chance to understanding the lives of the teachers, great teachers of the Kagyupa lineage, at all. If you feel that there is something wrong, there is somebody is playing tricks somewhere, and you think there's someone's trying to con somebody and it is unlawful, and there's no room for express human dignity or anything like that, and we're getting off the track somewhere or other. And this particular discipline has nothing to do with male chauvinism or woman chauvinism or human chauvinism. It has something to do with the ego chauvinism, of course, and that has been problem. That lineage knows no ego. And chauvinism is regard as a paper tiger at this point. And they're very unreasonable about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=1572.0,1673.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So whole thing seem to be extremely immediate situation when we are discuss about Marpa's life. It concerns everybody right here, everybody sitting on this ground. It concerns-- it seems to concern everybody. And it very-- it is very immediate situation. And for a change, that this particular audience seem to have a different kind of feeling than what we had last seminar [The Question of Reality,  Aug 24-27 1973], discussing on Don Juan, which were more theoretical and dramatic. And this seem to be a down home seminar. [laughter] That how we could work, how we could tackle that problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=1673.0,1719.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that's why I would like to open this question to everybody. If you any discussions tonight, you could ask questions. Maybe it would be good if you listen to the tape tomorrow again. And a time to have a clearer ideas of what has been said and what been taught. So any questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=1719.0,1747.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: From an ego point of view, from a pride point of view, does it make any difference whether you commit yourself to yourself, or if you make it a public thing, if you take vows and such?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, depends on how you approach. If you approach taking vow as a direct threat to ego, then it does make sense. Taking a vow is not necessarily receiving decorations, but there's further threat. That you can't flip anymore. You're imprisoned. If you don't relate it with that, and taking vow is simply regarded as another adornment, obviously, then it becomes a private thing again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=1747.0,1804.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: When you say in lineage there's no ego, isn't there also an idea that there's sort of a transcendent ego? Or the way to get within the lineage is to surrender your own personal ego to a sort of collective-- I mean \"ego\" is a bad word, but there's like \"pang-lang nga-gyal\" [sic], right? \"Pang-we nga-gyal\" and \"lang-we nga-gyal?\" [sic] There's an ego to be renounced and a ego to be--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How did you say those two words? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: \"Pang-we nga-gyal\" and \"lang-we nga-gyal.\" There's an ego to be renounced and an ego to be taken upon yourself. And doesn't the lineage sort of relate to the \"lang-we nga-gyal,\" or the ego that you take upon yourself? Does that relate to the lineage at all, that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. You see, the thing is, lineage is not regarded as particularly substantial body of organization in which you could take refuge particularly. The associating yourself with lineage is like associating yourself with a gigantic sieve. That when you lost your balance, you fall through the holes. So there's no security in any case. So from that point of view you can regard the sieve as, you know, security, but once you lost your balance and you're out of it. And, I mean, there is some kind of difference between arrogance and pride, obviously. Kind of pride in the lineage without arrogance, obviously. But that doesn't really fulfill one's ego's purpose really, because you're still holding on one of the junctions of the sieve's-- the wires.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're still holding onto-- if you lost your balance, and you know you'll still fall. And I mean, that's one of the very interesting about, and the lineage has developed self-existing sorting out process. That you don't have to sort you-- somebody doesn't have to sort you, but you sort yourself out. That's why the notion of self-secret around [INAUDIBLE], the self-secret has developed.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well, when you pray to your lineage, what is the attitude that you should have in relation to the figures who actually make up the lineage, like Tilo, Naro, Marpa, Mila?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's that you're complete trusting that, \"If they should destroy me, please destroy me. If they should fulfill me, please fulfill me.\" You know, that's open question. That's why. It's open question, you know. \"If I need to be destroyed, you know, I'm at your service.\" Not that I'm trying to con you to become better person or good child, but \"I'm at your mercy, completely, absolutely.\" That, \"Your message is important, and that's-- their-- I acknowledge that whatever message that you come along, you know, that's wonderful. That's blessing.\" But it does not suggest any kind of euphoric state of consciousness or, you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Freedom.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --freedom from anybody at all. It's up to you. It-- [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Unfortunately.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=1804.0,2043.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So, the idea of sacrifice. Like [laughs] Marpa took two or three trips to India with many tons of gold, which in the end, I think, in fact gave him not all the teachings. I think-- what I'm wondering is, is the idea that we really have to give not of gold, not of dollars or material things, but rather of ourselves. Really not keep anything from ourselves-- *to* ourselves, but rather just let it happen. Let it be. Whatever that might be. *Whatever* it might be. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, we could review the existing culture that we have developed in America of different style of various of gurus. That we have Swami Satchidananda, who is the very discreet and understanding, but he need money to maintain his organization and he gets gracefully. And then we have the divine-like mission of guru Maharaj Ji, [laughter] who doesn't ask for money but asks for...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Jewel. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. \"I want you and your whole thing. [laughter] And that includes your inheritance, [laughter] and your parents money and everything.\" And consequently, lot of people do that as well. As far as we are concerned, we are sort of lingering between the two somewhat. That-- [laughter; laughs] that we do need people's complete commitment in terms of relating with the teaching. But, at the same time, that we can't make further demands on including their inheritance is our possession. So the point here is, I think, if we make ourselves very clear here in terms of Kagyupa's approach is concerned, is that a complete surrendering of your insanity. It doesn't have to be your inheritance or your money that you have in your trust. But the sanity is the greatest jewel of all. So, if you don't surrender your *shit* to begin with, you don't get the jewel.\r\n\r\n\r\nI think that-- that's one of the interesting point is that when Gampopa present Milarepa batch of gold in a bag of skin and a brick of tea, and Milarepa says that, \"The gold and yogis don't agree with them-- agree with each other, and I have no accommodation to make tea for myself, so take them back. But drink this barley beer completely.\" And he [Gampopa] was perplexed at the beginning that, because he is a monk, he's not supposed to drink. And, finally, he decide to drink it to bulge out his ego. And he drank it in one gulp. And there was apparently supposed to be the tremendous promise in Gampopa, according to Milarepa. So I think that the best gift is the insanity that we possess. That not being afraid to come out relatively smooth or respectably, but complete openness gift of one's ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So, in other words, we can give up ourselves, our own insanity, whatever it might be?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Whatever might be, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which *is* the gold and which is the dollar, which is your bank account or whatever, you know. It's universe. [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2043.0,2376.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Is this opening, surrendering to the lineage, putting yourself at the mercy of the lineage, sort of the ego's equivalent of shunyata? I mean, the only way the ego can experience it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think ego experiences even that level at all. It’s just very primary level, extremely primary level.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I'm not sure what you mean by primary level?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's not even-- ego does not feel its emptiness even. And the first notion is that anger.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: For resentment, I guess?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Resentment, yeah. Chauvinism. But that's good. That means you lost something. [laughter] At least, you know, you acknowledge that. [laughs; laughter] That means that at least we made some kind of dent in somewhere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2376.0,2453.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Can you say more precisely what you mean by lineage, aside from the fact that it can at times be a sieve?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it’s lineage is seem to extremely simple. That it's like generations of presidents, or generations of family lineage. That person has committed themselves, and they did a thorough job, and in turn they transmit that handicraft to somebody else and showed it to the person. And that person, in turn, inspired by it and hand it down to generation-- to another generation with their own style is preserved. That nobody become like model of each other.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But each transmitter preserves his own style.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: His own style, like--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: -- Milarepa--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: -- and Marpa and so forth. But they maintain the basic sanity constantly. The saneness is translated-- transmitted constantly. And until the present lineage, that we have still very fresh and up-to-date sanity is operating. And that seems to be it. It's a real thing, you know. It's nothing mythical about it, nothing magical particular about it, but it-- things do happen that way, and it did happen that way, and it does happen that way.\r\n\r\n\r\nThere's one thing I would to raise question is the importance of surrendering, giving. And it seems that without that, that we can't even begin to learn anything at all. And the process of surrendering had to be intelligent at the same time. So you just can't be hero-worshipping somebody. So that's very delicate matter, this point, and I would like to clarify, maybe not tonight particularly, but throughout this seminar we could discuss that and clear out that confusion between the two: the blind faith and then that of the intelligent faith.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2453.0,2628.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: How does surrendering in body, speech, and mind relate to the idea of hopelessness, of no expectation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, because you feel there's no further security for you. Therefore, you give up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2628.0,2646.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Could you go over the surrendering of speech again, please?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Intellectual framework of reference in which you make yourself comfortable. You have your logic, you have your philosophy set up. And, also, you have your way of communicating with the other people it set up. That you have your style, which has been successful and which has been workable. And that kind of personal pride, surrendering that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: How is that different from surrendering mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mind is purely emotional level -- your passion, aggression, and...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: You mean, more basic than your style?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: More basic, yeah. So surrendering with speech could be said is your style. And surrendering with mind could be said is the consciousness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2646.0,2701.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Would surrendering come about through, like, exclusively through meditation or just through the act of working within the organization, or working with the lineage?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you mean by organization?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Oh, like your-- like your organization: Karma Dzong, Dharmadhatu, et cetera, et cetera. Whatever this is. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think, it's both. It's both. That organization is not really organization this case. It's the framework of discipline, style of something had developed. So it's both, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2701.0,2753.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Sometimes, in the context of surrender, you may be asked to do something in which you can see no intelligent reason why you should do it. Can you nevertheless do it with a sense of intelligent surrender?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I hope so. If you've been asked to do something, there must be some faith in you by the organization or the lineage, that you can pick up that particular message. If you don't have a driver's license, you're never asked to drive down to pick up somebody who is crazy from the airport.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: But some things might seem as if they were like that. It might seem as if you-- an unreasonable demand were being made. You couldn't see the context of the situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think, that's challenge that we should understand why and how, rather than purely because it's been said so, therefore you should do it. That's very important. So that's saving grace here is that you be asked to do something because there's some reason and logic behind. There is some communications taking place, rather than everything's lottery.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2753.0,2838.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: You said that the lineage was kind of a transmission of sanity, and I was wondering, in Tibetan Buddhism and maybe also in Zen, there seems to be these different lineages. But could there be a different-- I mean, sanity is-- could there be different sanities then? Or is it just, you know, purely karmic that you happened to get connected up with one? Or is it just purely stylistic differences?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't see any problems there. The Tibetans speak in Tibetan and Japanese speak Japanese. But it is sanity approach.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well I don't mean, you know, between Tibetan and Japanese, but I mean like, you know, Nyingmapa, Kagyupas, Gelukpa, you know, even within Tibetan things...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't see any problems.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: It's the same sanity.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I hope so. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But why are there those different kinds of things then? Is it just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, their approach is entirely different stylistically. The sanity approach to like handicrafts, sanity approach to businessman, sanity approach to farmers. And all of them have basic sanity, but you have different means. Same thing. And, for the same reason, you cannot say that farmers are less good citizens than those who live in the cities, if they’re both good citizens. They're all good citizens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2838.0,2951.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: It's not necessarily surrendering in a sense of giving up. For example, as a disciple, you don't really surrender your style, do you? Or, as Milarepa was a disciple, he didn't really surrender his style. He sort of surrendered the ego that he had involved with his style. Because later as a teacher, he retained his style.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: So you're really sort of, like, just giving up the ego attached to the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKE11: -- because you're not giving up your intellect--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're giving up your trip, so to speak.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And, after that, then you have a tripless trip already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2951.0,2991.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I may have misunderstood, but is it true that one prays to the lineage? And if that is true, why does one do that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Praise?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I think I heard that comment. Now maybe I misunderstood what was said.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't know. Well, there is appreciation, obviously. That appreciation of mentalities and styles through the lineages. And how Naropa was fantastic guy, [laughter] and Marpa is extraordinary good guy to meet. [laughter] And Milarepa is equally marvelous person, and Gampopa, and so on. That there is a personal appreciation of them.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: A thankfulness.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean, you know, their style is up-to-date and real, rather than purely mythical thing. There's a sense of up-to-dateness of it obviously. If you don't able to relate with that way, then you would regard the whole thing as purely you're associated with some mythical kingdom which doesn't exist, like flying saucers or whatever you have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2991.0,3067.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: How does basic sanity compare with crazy wisdom?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It’s saying the same thing. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=3067.0,3078.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Do these guys-- is this for you a personal relationship? And, if so, which one do you have a closer relationship with?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To me?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Yeah. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think everybody. [laughter] Absolutely everybody. And--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: They're present to you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Are they present?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Absolutely. I mean to me, I mean, I feel, you know, very humorous about them. [laughter] Almost I'm exchanging jokes to them and making puns to them, you know. [laughter] In turn, they do the same thing. [laughter] And it seem to be to me it's very lively. Sometimes I think maybe I'm too much of the true believer. [laughter] But I don't feel bad about that either.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=3078.0,3139.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: How does community relate to one's own commitment, or one's surrender? For example, the fact that we're all kind of here together, how-- you know, what does that mean in terms of, you know, each one of us?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think, community is not really that basically have one motto, one statement that everybody band themselves into it. But everybody come to-- everybody is arrived at the same conclusion at the same time. So it seem to be very simple. It seems that community we have here is individual choice. So person has their own choice, and they come up to their choice. You know, like same way as that millions of people drive on the highway, because they have a personal interest going through the highway. It's individual choice.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: It's happening--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But they happens to drive on the same way anyway.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=3139.0,3214.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: I heard you explain that community both like you just did, and [laughter] another time around, you said it only helps up to a certain point. And so you described it negatively, as at least we don't lean on each other and fuck each other up too much. [laughter] Well, does the-- and Gampopa says it's a lesser refuge, the sangha than the Buddha, because the members are themselves confused. [laughter] But is there some sense in which the community transmits the basic sanity, even though the individuals don't have it? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I should say, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: I didn't say, I asked. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well said, Bob. [laughter] Something like that, yeah. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=3214.0,3275.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: How does one go about surrendering and tricking oneself into [laughter] giving up logical mind and perhaps interjecting a certain craziness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's always message to pull you back. Something comes you to tell you that what you-- if you're tripping, there's something to pull you back, naturally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=3275.0,3310.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: I would like to know if the transmission of basic sanity or real teaching is always connected with the lineage? Or if, in some cases, there are not teachers who simply seem to come from nowhere and to represent no particular lineage. If that-- if the idea or the reality of lineage is one of the marks of the fact that real sanity is being transmitted?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's very rarely that individual who discover their own sanity and come up arrived that particular decision, very rare. It's-- as much as rare as like Christ and Buddha, who were not Christians or Buddhists. They develop their own ways. It is very rare, but it is possible. But generally, that the safest way of relating the whole thing is that if somebody has a lineage and they have background. That's the only way to relate with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: And, of course, if it would be real sanity, it would tend to create a lineage.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I mean, that would be too obvious, you know. Definitely, yeah. There's a kind of all approach of sanity, which is maybe unbearable to a person. It's too heavy. But it is still sanity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=3310.0,3416.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: In terms of open faith, how do we know that the anger or the resentment and pride that we feel, we may feel, is a natural unfolding of events or a basic incompatibility to the lineage? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How do we know about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We don't.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Then it's-- then it's a blind faith.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, not quite. If you know the two aspects, you are not in blind. That is your challenge, in fact. That if you-- if all the problems be solved for you, you have no path. So that is your project, in fact, to work on. Which is which, what is what. [laughter] That's your project.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=3416.0,3470.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Do people have to be sane to act sanely?\r\n\r\n\r\n[unknown gesture or incident;\r\n\r\n\r\nlaughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: People had to be sane...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Say that again. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Do people have to be sane to act sanely?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think goes other way around. 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When you say \"path,\" you have to have a path, a definite path.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Well, let me be more-- like, if you're a painter or a sculptor.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what I mean.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You have to have the roadmaker, the path-maker. If you don't have path-maker, you can't make your path and way out into the jungles. You can't travel. You have to make a path.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: But can you make your own path in, let's say, in painting or in sculpture or in building, or do you have to...? I mean, we end up talking about this all the time. You know, like, is the only thing to do to go sit on a mountain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. If you're sculpture or painter, you also need a master as well. You can't do it free hand at all. You have to go through some discipline.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: But is that discipline similar--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That *is* the path.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: -- to this discipline?.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: And that would be okay. I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that would be okay as far as what particulars will you involved. Or if you want to be apprentice of a mafioso, and you have to be your master to become a supermafioso. And you have to surrender yourself to that path. You have to become one of them. But that path necessarily doesn't mean to say that that is the *the* path that I will recommend personally, or lineage will recommend personally as such. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Well, what's-- what about then like a path for artists? Where do they fit into the whole--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, they have to know tantra, they have to know the art. And then they become tantric good artists, obviously. But people need, you know, *some* discipline to do something. You can't just you know launch your project because you feel like doing so. And there's story of that the latest movie actor who act as Superman, and he thought he has all the power, so jumped out his window and he killed himself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: But with something like the tantric artist, [laughter] like what the tantric painters did was the same thing as what the tantric monks did, only they did it in a different way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah. Sure. Art is not way out of the meditation discipline. It's very close. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Yeah. 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It's something occurred, something happens, and you can't carefully regard it, as like you’re just afraid to touch poisonous snake. How you be going to approach that poisonous snake? And neurosis are not a particular dangerous or not particularly conducive situation. But neurosis are *there*. It's very simple. And we don't have to discuss about the style or how you approach it. It's not all that big deal. Nothing whatsoever. It's neurosis. It's your neurosis, belongs to you. [laughter] And it permeates everywhere. And you just go along with it, and like you relate with your breakfast. Your sunny side up on your table and breakfast. You just sit and eat it. [laughter] You just do it. It doesn't require tremendous lot of art. It's very simple. It's *there*. And it comes much more than breakfast, lunch, and dinner. It comes maybe three hundred times a day. But every time it comes it’s good cup of tea. It comes up and goes, and one just relate with it. And it's no big deal.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd the problem is, if you plan strategies, you put more away from the actuality of it. Your strategy-ing [sic] and your planning makes you more nervous and more awkward. So no plan is needed from that point of view. You just-- it's your thing. So you relate with as you do it. Seem to be very simple from that point of view. And it could be approached very simply. And you find, in fact, there's no hostility coming from it, at all. It's workable. And it's actually very smooth and exciting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=3800.0,4010.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77272/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We'll close down our meeting? [laughter] Would be good that people could have chance to listen to the tape tomorrow. So have a good night's sleep.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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It's up to\nyou. 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Whatever that might\nbe. *Whatever* it might be.\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2088.03,2104.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77273/annotation/385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean,\nwe could review\nthe existing culture","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2104.09,2112.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77273/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that we have developed\nin America of different style\nof various of gurus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2112.26,2119.15"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77273/annotation/387","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That we have\nSwami Satchidananda,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2119.15,2122.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77273/annotation/388","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who is the very discreet\nand understanding,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2122.4,2128.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77273/annotation/389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but he need money\nto maintain his organization","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2128.2,2132.27"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77273/annotation/390","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and he gets gracefully.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2132.27,2135.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77273/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then we have the divine-like\nmission of guru Maharaj Ji,\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2135.33,2140.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77273/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who doesn't ask for money\nbut asks for...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2140.0,2145.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77273/annotation/393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: Jewel. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2145.36,2146.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77273/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2146.58,2150.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77273/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"I want you\nand your whole 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everything.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2158.4,2161.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77273/annotation/398","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And consequently,\nlot of people do that as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356#t=2161.58,2167.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144646/file/267356/transcript/77273/annotation/399","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As far as we are concerned,\nwe are sort of lingering\nbetween the two 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