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Draws parallels between Marpa's trips to India to study with Naropa and contemporary Western students beginning to explore Buddhism. In both cases, letting go of expectations, experiencing period of frustration important part pf process. Uses analogy of \"house-training\" for hinayana discipline, of seeing and taming one's mind through sitting meditation. Seeing one's confusion as first step toward basic sanity, glimpsing beyond neurosis. In Q\u0026amp;A, how Marpa's expectations of receiving teachings from Naropa were challenged. Simplicity and precision of hinayana makes our householder life \"monastic.\"  How \"giving up\" necessary for path to move forward."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["May 02 2020 to Jan 31 2022\nTranscribing: Jessyca Goldstein\nChecking: Ella Milligan\nFinal Proof: Anne Seidlitz\nOther Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1975"]}}],"summary":{"en":["A brilliant talk that conveys the heart of Marpa's significance, and uses his life as lens for understanding how to approach the teachings. Draws parallels between Marpa's trips to India to study with Naropa and contemporary Western students beginning to explore Buddhism. In both cases, letting go of expectations, experiencing period of frustration important part pf process. Uses analogy of \"house-training\" for hinayana discipline, of seeing and taming one's mind through sitting meditation. Seeing one's confusion as first step toward basic sanity, glimpsing beyond neurosis. In Q\u0026amp;A, how Marpa's expectations of receiving teachings from Naropa were challenged. Simplicity and precision of hinayana makes our householder life \"monastic.\"  How \"giving up\" necessary for path to move forward."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/267/359/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1741833360","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1741833323_19750131VCTR1-Audio-Prod-ARCHRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":2860.85219,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/267/359/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1741833360","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/267/359/original/1741833323_19750131VCTR1-Audio-Prod-ARCHRmstr-Access.mp3?1741833325","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2860.85219,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19750131VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19750131VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Kensington CA - Life And Teachings of Marpa II - Talk 1]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled The Life and Teachings of Marpa, held at Williams College in Kensington, California. This is talk number one, January 31st, 1975. This is an ARP digital remaster made June 2007","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=0.0,26.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We're going to discuss the style and the teachings of Marpa as manifested to his students, as far as we know. And I think basic point is we have to go back and look into the general area of style and way of communicating to a student, which particularly Marpa's way which seem to be quite simple and direct. And at the same time that contains some element of wildness and crazy wisdom situations. And the whole question is somehow comes to that as far as we view Marpa is concerned: Tibetan, middle-class farmer, scholar at the same time, who had studied the language and literature of Indian Buddhism. That he then decide to go to India, and study further, to receive teachings from an Indian master, or Indian masters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=26.0,157.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which is somewhat basically same situations that's taking place these days. The only difference is that the Tibet and America: that people in America study, or they have been interested in studying further, and they have prepared their background and studied a little bit, and read all the books and have taken-- enrolled in universities. That you would like to take your field trip, to field study, and they study the native gurus. And ventured out to India, or Japan or wherever it may be. And somehow as far as the general pattern of that level goes it seem to be somewhat familiar and understandable situations. But beyond that is questionable. That as far as the American students' concerned, that there seem to be two extremes that exist. And one is that heavily involved and too much giving. And the other one is heavily involved with your *own* work, and too much analysis, and too much analytical approach. So those two situations somehow become obstacle. And somehow that not having enough medieval spirit or the medieval style, of things are always related with the barter exchange, and sort of earthbound, earthy situations are prominent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=157.0,295.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And one of the differences obviously, the Tibetan student go to India, like Marpa. That by no means Tibet is a glamorous country at the time. And the Indians usually refer to Tibet as \"the land of the pretas,\" \"the land of the monkeys,\" \"the land of the hungry ghost,\" which is pretas. That people living in the cold climate, and cover themselves with animal skin. And eating barley flour and lots of meat. And from that point of view the Indians would feel this is a savage kind of place, and terrible place to go to. Or feels strange that Tibetans, in fact wanted to come up and study such highly involved teachings-- evolved teachings as mahamudra or madhyamaka or Buddhist philosophy; it's quite surprising for them, that such primitive place produces in fact a scholar *at all*. And it is very amazing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=295.0,362.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Whereas the-- at this point, these days where the Orientals -- the Indian teachers or the Zen masters, whoever you have, that visitors coming from America, seem to have a different kind of attitude: that America is the \"land of the promise,\" and the roads are paved with gold, lots of money, lots of dollar. And highest of technology, and the monumental country where the biggest nation of democracy is actually operating [laughs; laughter], whatever it may be, and fascination of all kinds begin to take place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=362.0,402.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And one of the problems and the differences is that the Indians handled the Tibetans very tough, very direct, and somewhat unkindly. Whereas the-- presently the teachers handle American students are somewhat of extra privilege. That a white man from the West has sacrificed his or her life enough to come over here, and willing to put up with the primitive environment of Indian setup, Indian ashrams or Zen monasteries or whatever. Had provided some kind of new luxury: that in a sense that teachers exchange their notes in their American-- or their Western students, and \"what kind of new gimmicks they brought, and further tape recorders or further fascinating cameras? Or what kind of background, and is he professor or is he a college student, or Ph.D. or B.A. or M.A., or whatever? And what kind of engineering skills that person has: is he a builder of airplane or builder of flying saucer, or rocket?\" [Laughter; laughs] Whatever. That that kind of fascination is entirely different in turn; that teachers tend to become very soft. And *unnecessarily* kind, has become the problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=402.0,500.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And accordingly of the two situations, the Tibetan student goes to-- going to India, medieval times, and American students going to India -- or Japan, wherever -- in twentieth century, had provided entirely different setup of disciplines. And in turn, that entirely different things to bring back home. And somehow that that has become the sort of landmark, the differences.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=500.0,535.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As far as Marpa's situation is concerned, that his experience meeting with his guru, Naropa, had become a very personal one. That he seem to have a fascination of wanting to translate Buddhist tantras into Tibetan language. And he also seem to have a fascination towards not only translate, but wanted to practice properly, so that whatever he translated become accurate one. That the-- as far as the compassion from his teacher is concerned is not very much, and maybe largely that he's presenting that the Tibetan student should become more intelligent and more willing to bend down to -- or open more, to his teachings, Naropa's teachings. And Marpa had gone through austere training, which is not particularly written great deal in his biography, but it revealed in his songs and other reference point, that the Marpa's description of his teacher, which can be read in the teachings of Milarepa, later on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=535.0,644.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That the question is that there is immense energy, immense *fear* that involved, learning to study Buddhism -- tantra particularly. That there is immense sense of that you might be rejected on the spot, or kicked out of the environment. Or else you might be accepted completely, as the heartfelt student. And such sweet and sour flavor that exist in the relationship had provided immense choicelessness, in the student's mind. And we could apply to ourselves from this point of view: that the question of role of a teacher is that not so much to give you informations, as much as available in the level of a college professor, or level of reading a dictionary. But if the person is not ready enough or not quite up to it, then that longest delay is the best.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=644.0,736.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"By not giving anything at all to the student, not even little homework or not even little encouragement, that the student's mind is completely frustrated, fully and thoroughly. And that will take usually very long time, which providing some kind of sense of your own poverty, and one's own ambition had to be died down, subsided completely. That student wouldn't have anything to perch on, so to speak. And student learn to sit rather than perch, in order to receive the teachings. And after a period of that frustration and starvation, and then the student would be grateful for anything that teacher would ask you to do so. Which could be cleaning his bathroom or digging up the garden or attending his dog, or whatever it's may be. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=736.0,809.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That sense of that you are actually doing something. Actually you are begin to bend down and begin to open, becoming more humble. That seem to be the very important point, but usually the ordinary style is that when you want to make somebody humble, overpowering them with all kinds of words and ideas, which make them overbearing, and make them stupid and confused. Which is the style of eccentric professors exist, or eccentric craftsman. And usually cuts you down, and show out-- throw out to you that your inadequacy, and calling you names and all kinds of things. But in this case, it is spiritual training rather than materialistic training, to make yourself ideal craftsman, particularly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=809.0,871.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So spiritual development takes a different flavor altogether. That one has to cut down the sense of expectations of *any* level. Maybe expectations might be seen as immense inspiration of all kinds, that you have a very clever ideas, and all kinds of things, but still somehow it doesn't work that way. That person had to be completely starved; his mind completely had to be starved to death, so to speak. And that seem to be the general process. And also at the same time there is not only starvation, but also sense of fear, that unfamiliarity of the tuning into the environment that has been created by particular teacher.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=871.0,922.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the questions become constantly important at the point of when the student begin to learn to behave; in other word that student is completely house-trained. And then it is necessary to give further teachings. That you can't mix the two thing: that before you get house-trained, you can't just receive teachings, just simply. And according to the Buddhist tradition, that becoming house-training-- trained, and the process of house-training is a very elaborate one and a very definite one. That what we call \"hinayana.\" And the practice of meditation that was given to the student in the early stages, with development of basic sanity, in the basic obedience course -- whatever you like to call it. Which is a process of house-training.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=922.0,995.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And one of the problems that exist in us is that we usually have completely wild mind. That our mind is not only wild, but it is crazy, at the same time. That it goes all over the place, and it doesn't really focus on what you're doing, and we are constantly dwelling on the present -- in the name of the present, but we are constantly haunted by the possibilities of future, and we are constantly dwelling on our memories of the past. That our mind is completely dislocated constantly, usually. That we actually miss lots of the details that exist in life, constantly. That that is in fact, we could say, not only in the level of unhouse-trained, but pre-unhouse-trained level. [Laughter] That that is the kind of level that we are usually appeared. I mean that doesn't necessarily mean that it is-- this is particularly to the Orient or the Occidental people, but it's the same; the neurosis of that kind is always same all over the place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=995.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the dealing with the pre-house-training level is the practice of hinayana discipline, which makes that you to relate with your thought -- actually you do have a mind, to begin with. That we have no idea of what it is all about and what is mind altogether, that we have *no* idea. Let alone whether mind is wild or tame, but that's the more advanced level somehow. That at that point that one has just been introduced to one's own mind, which is developed through the discipline of hinayana path. Which is practice of \"vipashyana\" training, which is a pre-tantric training, which is absolutely necessary. That you are already deaf and mute, in your own neurosis, constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=1080.0,1134.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in order to make just have proper faculties -- that you can hear the teachings, that you can speak about it, ask questions and things like that -- are very important point, but somehow we are not up to *that* even. So the first question is sort of to just provide a situation that student would sit and meditate, in the shamatha principle. Which is barely taking note on what's happening in your mind, and going along with one's breath, and just going along with what's happening in your life. Which is actually thought process, just being, keeping on track of it. And being extremely precise. And allowing plenty of space between confusions, or seeming discoveries, or whatever it's may be. So the process is very slow and extremely slow one. And no further encouragement, or even threat is given. If there was a threat was given to you then probably you feel somewhat that something to work on, something to chew on. But even that is in itself is further entertainment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=1134.0,1220.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the beginner's level is extremely austere, and completely non-existence, but simply one begin to reduce into oneself into idiot. Which we were not quite *yet*; we were pre-idiot level that point of view. And somehow that in becoming idiot is immense development. [Laughter] And it's fantastic discovery.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=1220.0,1247.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, that seem to be the beginning level: that to realize who you are, what you are in-- which is in fact nothing, but it might be something -- that's very difficult to say, depends on one's perceptions of course. [Laughter] And I think that particular level is very powerful level, that you begin to realize that you have actually made *some* connections, with some fundamental and basic territory of sanity, somewhere, that you made some connections. And one begin to feel extraordinarily powerful. Which is a realization of one's own ignorance of course, at that point. Or one's own potentialities of going beyond ignorance, if better -- if you're lucky enough, whatever. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=1247.0,1311.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think one of the point that students begin to realize that level, is pre-pre-level, is that there is a sense of humor of some kind, that one of the problems that we have been taking our life too seriously. And it doesn't have to be a big business deal, or purchasing wisdom, particularly. But there is a sense of lightness and sense of celebration, even in our pre-ignorant level. And there's some kind of spark does exist. And that kind of notion is in the Buddhist terminology is known as the \"tathagatagarbha\", the \"buddha-nature\", that is slowing dawning on us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=1311.0,1369.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think that's the basic point, in which that the student begin to feel a sense of austerity, and a sense of simplicity, quite painfully. But at the same time, that is in itself is very rich situation. Like you can imagine Marpa taking his journey from Tibet to India, and crossing the Himalayan range, and crossing the Brahmaputra river. And going through cities after cities after cities, and the very threatening life of bandits of all kinds are waiting. And the language is difficult to understand -- although he's scholar, but he hasn't spoken in local language. And there is a sense of that you are walking into some kind of jaw of the crocodile. But at the same time that there is sense of delightfulness, and a sense of adventure at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=1369.0,1466.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But particularly Marpa's situation, that his way of viewing, that new discovery of another country is by no means at the level of -- what's the word -- anthropological vision. Fortunately he hadn't learned that gimmick. Very fortunate, that we have the teachings handed down at this time. [Laughs] And the whole thing it's become interesting process for him, that there is living in a very strange world, which doesn't have enough life, although there is plenty of confusion is flying around, all over the place. And at midst of that there is a sense of spark of hope, and at the same time a spark of fear, that constantly happens. And that is kind of the shamatha level of experience, that things extremely bare, and extremely naked, austere. And that austerity in itself becomes haunting, and that kind of experience becomes very naked, and makes oneself more awkward in some sense. But at the same time discovery of one's own awkwardness had provide some kind of hope, to realization further, going beyond further. And I think that's the basic point that we should look into, study further at this point, in the study of Marpa's life.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd if you have any questions, you're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=1466.0,1604.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, is Marpa, as far as I understand it, particularly about the tantras? And how to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Why did Marpa particularly want to study tantras?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What Marpa what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What was-- was there any particular reason behind why Marpa decided to get into the tantras? Why he particularly wanted to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think at the beginning it was a kind of, sort of novelty -- that go to India and get tantra. Which was the-- up in the air, you know, all the time in that time in Tibet. As individuals making adventures out to India, and getting more books, and collecting further stuff. Not knowing what he is getting into. And there are a lot of others been doing that. And interestingly that those who-- those of who had made the journey artificially have left no lineage, because they have nothing to teach, except sort of academic information, which didn't exist very much. And the only the practitioners have continued, like that Marpa had actually have experience. And I suppose we could say that's kind of saving grace, in some sense that there's no bullshit is left behind. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=1604.0,1702.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Marpa was a layman householder, and from what I can tell of the Kagyu lineage, he's the only one in the lineage who is a layman householder. Being that most of us in the American scene are-- find ourselves in a similar situation, what particularly is the-- does Marpa have to-- how does Marpa speak to us?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we're going to discuss that later on actually. What we are discussing this point is that the training that he had actually walked into. That thinking that he's finally going to find easy way out, translating books and bringing back to Tibet. And some way he found himself into different situation *altogether*. Which I think quite comparable to ourselves at this point, in the early level. But as far as to the household level, and being farmer and being householder, father, and teacher at the same time, that's another matter altogether. And hopefully we could devote most of our time later.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=1702.0,1777.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You spoke about the austerity of the beginning path, and I imagine that like his journey to-- from Tibet to India was part of that austerity. And I'd like to know what *our* austerity is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don't think Marpa's journey to-- from Tibet into India is particularly austerity, particularly. It's somewhat uncomfortable maybe. But still that he had to fight with the obstacles, which is entertaining. In many ways, that he's a seemingly intelligent person able to cope with a lot of situations like that. But I think the basic austerity, the real austerity does exist, is in a sense of that the-- there's a complete silence, from the point of view of Naropa relating with him. But at the same time some kind of acknowledgment his existence. There is a good welcome and good acknowledgment. But after that nothing had happened; that he can't say that, \"Aren't you going to tell me anything, otherwise I'm going to leave.\" Or else that he can't push, \"You know, I'm going to give you more gold, you could teach me more.\" He had already given his gold to Naropa, and that's as far as he could go in terms of payment or fee, for the teaching. That he is locked in a very strange situation; that he never get any feedbacks, but at the same time feels that he is suspended. And he probably also afraid of the possibilities of the magical situation; that if he just turn away himself from a powerful teacher, that he might find a way back home to enlightenment again. So he sort of pushed into all kinds of corners like a ping pong ball. And that seem to be the austerity, or frustration, in the highest level.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: And what is *our* austerity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we could say it's quite similar in some sense. [Laughter] And particularly I suppose the sense of that the-- that we have to start from a beginner's level, of the Buddhist studies. Rather than we were given this, you know, sudden exercises, and sudden particular trainings that we can actually hang onto. But just to watching our mind's mirror.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=1777.0,1956.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: It seems that traditionally the hinayana path has been associated with simplicity, and maybe being in a monastery and practicing the shamatha practice for a long period of time. And for most of us that seems not to be the situation; we seem to be more involved in going out into the world. And I myself experience difficulty carrying my practice out of the meditation hall, you know, into everyday life, and I wonder if you could talk on that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think in the hinayana practice is not particularly exclusive to monastic life. It's the question of actual technique and actual discipline doesn't have further entertainment. And simple, straight practice of meditation. In the daily life just mindfulness of life. And sitting practice, also mindfulness of your breath and your thoughts. And that seem to be the only thing. Actually at the time, it is monastic in the some sense. If you look in the monastic-- monasticism in a very basic sense, that monasticism is-- have no entertainment, no further feedbacks, from sensory world, anymore. And that's the kind of thing. And I think that ordinary householder life, beyond a monastic life can also practice the hinayana discipline, which is absolutely important. And I think it's possible. The basic point of monasticism, or basic point of householder is that you begin to relate to your householder life as clear and precisely as much as possible. And you make a relationship with your mind. That's the important point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: As the pre-idiot stage is developed, and that sense of austerity, it appears that there is a sense of dullness, that the things that formerly made life a big deal, everything being a big deal, as it becomes less of a big deal, the entertainment one's use to with the dramas and the events and the traumas and whatever, fade away a little. Out of that sense of dullness, where does the-- or how does the sense of celebration develop, from that austere simplicity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that's it. [Laughter] Well if you look at twice, the first one, first flash is depression, and the second is flash is maybe a little smile. [Laughter] And that is the celebration. That's it! [Laughter; applause] It's not sensational, I'm afraid, but it means something to us. It means a great deal. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=1956.0,2170.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Well, what I was wondering about is, you're telling us something about the techniques that a teacher would use towards the students. So that it seems that, you know, that now that I know that I'm supposed to experience this tremendous frustration, in my dealings with you, or whoever my teacher is, doesn't that give me something to perch on? I'm feeling frustrated, then I can grab onto my frustration and realize that I'm advancing along the path. 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[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=2170.0,2269.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I've always understood that we shouldn't attempt to recreate experiences that we have, like during sitting meditation, during post-meditation, but sometimes I find this is unavoidable. Especially relating to like sense of situation, and ourselves as being part of the situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, then that's not particularly what you are supposed to be doing as such. I think it's a question of what actually happens. That if you less follow the rules and regulations the better. That you have begin to develop personal sense of experience, and what is actually happening when the kettle begin to whistle, that means that the water is boiled.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=2269.0,2318.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: By telling people that it's okay to feel frustrated, that it's part of the teaching, aren't you making the teaching less forceful?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Making what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Aren't you taking force away from the teaching by telling people that they're supposed to feel frustrated?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, what is teaching anyway? Can you say something? [Laughter] What you think teaching is?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well, if we think of a case like Marpa or Milarepa for instance, the teaching for him had two stages. First his eight trials, that helped erase the sins, and then the Demchok wang [Chakrasamvara abhisheka] and what followed. So this stage, which is karma cleaning aspect of teaching, and the transmission proper. It is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --one part of the teaching is say you use sandstone -- how do you say -- you use to file on those iron bars, creating a situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think I don't see any particular problem sir. A sense of awe is always necessary. Whether you receive the teachings in the hinayana level or mahayana or the vajrayana level. That sense of awe. And also sense of celebration. I think reason why that person had difficulty in relating with the teaching is because, there is a sense of teaching as being alien message. They're coming from foreign countries. In the Tibetans' case it came from India, in Americans' case came from Tibet -- whatever it's may be. And that seems to provide a lot of problems. But if we begin to take on our *own* selves, that teaching is *ourselves*, that the rediscovering of who we are, what we are, then whole thing becomes very personal. I think it needs a lot of re-thinking, in the sense that what we received is not so much of information, or guidebook fashion, in how you handle this foreign gadget, so that we could use in our kitchen. But it is very much of ourselves, description of ourselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=2318.0,2479.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: If Marpa was from a relatively crude or savage background, compared to the one that he went to to get the riches of the teachings, is it possible that his crudeness was in some way a gift to the lineage that he went to receive something from? And is there something analogous to that in the American situation -- the rawness that exists here?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I wouldn't say Marpa particularly came from background of crude, peasant situation. That his previous-- his grandfather, and great grandfathers are chieftains, or important person, in society. That for the very reason that he had some kind of inspiration to study Sanskrit, go to India, is big leap already. But I think probably his background is, as far as intellectuality is concerned, is sort of upper middle-class. That as much as that the society -- American or lower-middle, no upper-middle class level -- that well-versed, and can read and write beautifully. And also can read foreign languages at the same time. And a sense of philosophy, and there's a lot of socializing involved at the same time. So it's very much of a kind of affluence level, in some sense. Although there was no city life, like we are talking about, you know, in being in the city.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut I think the question there is that whatever level that you come from, that you going to meet the same situation, the same problem, or same promises. That doesn't really matter what background that you come from: if you are particularly inspired to the experience of finding out about the truth, then one has to jump into the cauldron -- big cauldron, which is boiling. Which might become austere, entertaining, but at the same time, more you sit in there it becomes less entertaining.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=2479.0,2643.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I have two feelings. One is like a hope that there's a possibility to get to another stage, and one is a fear that if I don't hurry up and lose my hopeless-- my hoping and my fearing, I'm not going to get there already. And I was wondering if you might say something about that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's pretty smart. [Laughter] Well, what's the problem?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: How do I get rid of that? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You get rid of that? I wouldn't. What happens after that if you get rid of that? Do you have any idea? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Is that like more energetic than having a kind of existential, laissez-faire [laughing] sense? [Laughter] I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see the whole point is that that is called \"the path.\" That the path is consist of fluctuations between hope and fear, and the genuine glimpse -- whatever that may be. So, one cannot really make whole thing completely franchised, at the level of that what things should be, ought to be. And one has to go through hassles of all kinds, *constantly*. That's absolutely necessary. And I wouldn't try to get rid of *anything* particularly; I would like to go *along* with it, you know. I mean that's all it's about. That by going along with it, which doesn't necessarily mean that you get rid of the hassles, and you begin to become happier and more graceful, and it feels great, particularly necessarily at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd maybe carrying out is the same kind of problems; in fact you become-- you begin to feel *more* problematic, as you more advanced in the spiritual path. That because of your hangups become more accented and more *precise*, and you begin to feel as if there are more hangups than you start at the beginning. You see what I mean? [Laughter] So there's further problems involved. So altogether what I would do is just give up altogether [laughter], and just do it! Just simply do it. And if you begin to try to sort out, you know, which is best way to make ourselves more congenial, to do whatever; you know inspire more, and make your pleasurable situations, and that's-- that somehow is spiritual materialism. And it doesn't make any sense. And we don't have enough humor that point. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: So it's good just to keep going one step at a time, not caring where you're going.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: *That's* it. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=2643.0,2858.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77278/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe we should close this point.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=2858.0,2860.85219"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77279","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19750131VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77279/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=0.51,4.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77279/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar entitled The Life\nand Teachings of Marpa,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=4.44,7.51"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77279/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"held at Williams College\nin Kensington, California.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=7.51,10.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77279/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number one,\nJanuary 31st, 1975.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=10.8,16.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77279/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital remaster\nmade June 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students,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=34.7,40.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77279/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as far as we know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=40.5,45.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77279/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think basic point\nis we have to go 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What happens after\nthat if you get rid of that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=2686.54,2693.109"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77279/annotation/544","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Do you have any idea?\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=2693.109,2698.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77279/annotation/545","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: Is that like\nmore energetic","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359#t=2698.45,2705.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144650/file/267359/transcript/77279/annotation/546","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"than having a kind of\nexistential, laissez-faire\n[laughing] sense? 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