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Tantra introduces student to new world; works with the emotions; develops dignity. Further teachings on final yana, maha ati. Introduces idea of \"kadak\", \"pure at the beginning\", state of enlightenment involving no reference points. In summary, stresses key importance of overcoming spiritual materialism, \"vajra pride,\" and having a teacher at every level. Meditation and discipline of hinayana as essential for foundation; six paramitas of mahayana; and \"genius\" that develops in vajrayana as \"jnana\" or wisdom. Describes \"five wisdoms\" of tantric path. In Q\u0026amp;A, describes inspiration for vajrayana; difference between Buddhism and Existentialism; further \"dangers\" of vajrayana. Invites students to take part in upcoming program on the nine yanas, to be led by Seminary students.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Lion's Roar","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 04"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: THE LION'S ROAR: Part One, Chapter 6: Alpha Pure\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-lion-s-roar-921.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 4 (in contained book THE LION'S ROAR)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-385.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eOct 01 2018 to Dec 17 2025 Transcribing: Mary Beth Kean Checking: Nate Speare Final Proof: Ella Milligan, Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eGives overview of the nine-yana journey: hinayana path realizing truth of suffering; mahayana as further dedication to path, developing compassion, knowing how to work with the world. Tantra introduces student to new world; works with the emotions; develops dignity. Further teachings on final yana, maha ati. Introduces idea of \"kadak\", \"pure at the beginning\", state of enlightenment involving no reference points. In summary, stresses key importance of overcoming spiritual materialism, \"vajra pride,\" and having a teacher at every level. Meditation and discipline of hinayana as essential for foundation; six paramitas of mahayana; and \"genius\" that develops in vajrayana as \"jnana\" or wisdom. Describes \"five wisdoms\" of tantric path. In Q\u0026amp;A, describes inspiration for vajrayana; difference between Buddhism and Existentialism; further \"dangers\" of vajrayana. Invites students to take part in upcoming program on the nine yanas, to be led by Seminary students.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/299/073/small/thumbnail_299073_1766175534.jpg?1766175577","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1766175297_19731215vctr1-video-prod-ctirmstrsd-access.mp4"]},"duration":2597.82857,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/299/073/small/thumbnail_299073_1766175534.jpg?1766175577","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/299/073/original/1766175297_19731215vctr1-video-prod-ctirmstrsd-access.mp4?1766175307","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":2597.82857,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19731215VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19731215VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Boulder - The Nine Yanas II - Talk 6]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=0.0,6.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As we have already discussed right at the beginning of this seminar, the journey of-- journey through the yanas are rediscovering oneself, process of rediscovering oneself, as you walk on the path. That you take this trip and you have a feeling of particular location, particular area. You might be journeying through in dense forest, or you might be journeying through in dense snow, climbing mountains, and going through fields, meadows, rainstorms and snowstorms. And cert-- and also, each time where you going to stop for the night of your journey, to eat and sleep. All of those experiences are *your* journey. That in a sense we could say that the rainstorms are *your* rainstorm, and snows are *your* snow, and the dense forest is your forest. It's *your* world. And similarly, the journeys of three yana principle, which is divided into nine yanas, and these yanas are process of rediscovering oneself clearer and clearer, and clearer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=6.0,137.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the beginning there is a vague idea of that something is not quite right, something is wrong with oneself, and things are highly questionable. And one begin to look into the question, begin to relate with the pain, and the chaos, confusion, into the hinayana level. And then, certain stage such questions, and even certain answers that you might get out of that search, becomes... creates a *further* hunger, further curiosity. That the teachings begin to seeped in our heart, more and more, and the bodhisattva path takes place of intense dedication to the path. And intense dedication to the path this case also mean dedication and compassion, loving attitude to oneself, as well as to others. You begin to find your place in the universe, in this world. Is the bodhisattva path, is finding one's role and one’s place and one’s dedication in this universe. So, the universe does not become threatening or... irritating anymore. That-- for the very simple reason that you have style to work with the universe, and meditation in action has developed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=137.0,256.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And as we go on then not only that, but you rediscover entirely brand new world of tantra. And enormous surprise takes place. And then you also begin to realize the magical aspect of the universe -- which means yourself as well as everything. That you rediscover the redness, the blueness, or the whiteness of the colors. You rediscover meaning of passion, the meaning of aggression, and its vividness, its liveliness, and also its transcendental quality at the same time. So rediscovering new world is the vajrayana path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=256.0,331.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And at that point, you not only realize that you have a place in the universe, and you not only realize the meaning of pain and confusion, but you begin to develop a sense of dignity; in fact you are the emperor of the universe, the king of the world. A sense of dignity. And that you have a enormous place in this world; in fact you are the maker of the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=331.0,363.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And as tantra experience develops through the lower tantra to the higher tantras, then even that notion of emperor seems to become unnecessary. That you *are* the universe. That you have no reference point, none whatsoever at all. And everything is in the level of complete oneness. In the higher tantric terms there is a word called \"kadak\", which \"ka\" is first letter of the alphabet, \"dak\" means \"pure.\" So it's \"pure right at the beginning,\" or you might say \"alpha pure.\" That right at the beginning it's pure. And pure in this case is not a question of reference point, as to impure opposed to purity, but pure in this case is a real sense of... without contrast, without relative reference at all. And that seem to be the state of development that we are working towards, is finally the level of maha ati teachings, in which that there is no reference point; none whatsoever. And because that there is no reference point, none whatsoever, therefore we find *millions* of reference points, everywhere, without conflicting each other. So you become *so* precise and so open, so general and so specific at the same time. And that's the state of enlightenment -- if you can describe in even terms and words; that's sort of finger painting enlightenment. Which is very difficult to put in terms of word.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=363.0,495.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And all of that journey, all of that experience, that we discussed, have its root in the overcoming spiritual materialism to begin with, and developing friendship with oneself, and developing what's called \"vajra pride\" -- of sense of dignity. And those three steps are the general guidelines to three yana principles. And such experience cannot come about without spiritual friend. To begin with, without a master, which is a teacher, master, at the beginning, in the hinayana level. And the bodhisattva level spiritual friend, who minds your business intensely. And in the vajrayana level, your vajra master, who holds the life strength of yours, in his hand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=495.0,590.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is a story of abhisheka of Padmasambhava, when Padmasambhava is initiated by Shri Singha, who is another great sage of maha ati. That Shri Singha reduced Padmasambhava in a form of a letter HUM, and ate it [laughter]; put it in his mouth and swallowed. And when Padmasambhava came out of other end of the Shri Singha, that's complete abhisheka. [Laughter] That is the example of a vajra master. Is not only a teacher alone, and more than spiritual friend, but he who eats you up and shits you out, and completely process in his vajra body. And that is kind of power we that we are talking about. Without such relationship, such communication that vajrayana cannot be presented, or even near to understood at all. And one of that is definitely the notion of a teacher is one of the prerequisite, and one of the necessary requirements, in order to go through the path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=590.0,705.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then of course the practice of meditation which plays the other important part of it. Without any discipline, to begin with the hinayana level, of developing a certain basic sanity and working basis of one's mind, the teachings of satipatthana methods that had developed in Theravadin traditions are also very powerful and important. And in Sarvastivadin tradition of hinayana of Tibet and Japan and China, also have developed same identical method.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=705.0,751.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When I was in India, I discussed meditation technique of awareness practice with a Burmese master who is a disciple of Mahasi Sayadaw, who is a great meditation teacher in Burma. And when we discussed about meditation techniques, and when I finished discussing the whole thing, of the vipassana practice of meditation that we do in Tibet, and he shook his head and said, \"When did you go to Burma?\" So it’s identical from that point of view -- seemingly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=751.0,807.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we have to start from-- we have to begin at the beginning, in the hinayana level, which is *very* necessary. Without that we do not develop proper sense perceptions, so to speak. In order to *hear* the teachings, we have to have a good eyesight, and good ear, to listen to the teaching, and we have to have a good body to sit and meditate. The sense perception here meaning developing some sanity in which that your sense perception are no longer distorted anymore. It's *real* vision, real understanding, without colored by one’s neurosis. That is *absolutely* necessary; there is no other way out *at all*. According to Buddha, anyway. So, having that foundation [of hinayana] of a rock bed of solid and sane, open, fresh ground, foundation. And then you can begin to build, put up the walls, if you’re going to build a house.\r\n\r\n\r\nRelating with the mahayana discipline of six paramitas, and development of friendliness\r\n\r\n\r\n--to oneself, as well as to others. Which gives us direction how to behave, as good citizen. Which is bodhisattva's path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=807.0,949.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Having become a good citizen, and then there is enormous possibilities, becoming genius. Basic sanity is developed, and the lifestyle is properly conducted, and there's not any hassles at all, there's no obstacles at all. And then you become a *genius*, which is a vajrayana level. That you're such fantastic artist, fantastic musician, fantastic sculptor, fantastic poet, that you begin to see the workings of the universe in its utmost and last *detail*. That you see everything *completely*; you are so genius. And that's the final level. Which that genius-ness is described as \"jnana\", wisdom. There is five types of genius-ness, or five types of wisdom. The mirror-like wisdom of clarity; and wisdom of equality, which is seeing panoramic vision at once; and discriminating awareness wisdom, which is seeing the details in its utmost precise level. And wisdom of all-accomplishing actions, that the speed does not have to be included in one's working situation; that things are fall into your pattern. And then there is the fifth wisdom is dharmadhatu; that's the all-encompassing space, which develops enormous basic sanity and basic spaciousness, in a sense of outer space rather than space within the planet. That *cosmic* genius-ness is the vajrayana principle here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=949.0,1087.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I suppose that this seminar is maybe just simply purely teaser for you [laughter], but it is true that we know, we have evidence, that hundreds of millions of great people are produced by following these paths. And there are also-- not only that produced but they all say the same thing; they've gone through the same process all the time. So we are not particularly excluded out of that possibility. And according to Buddha, every four people in a sangha, are one of them are enlightened one. So, such possibility is always there. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [chatter; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Trying to find out who is? [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=1087.0,1210.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in a way that what we discussed in this seminar, is a complete description of the beginning to the end of enlightenment. That I hope you'll be able to aspire, and feel joyful about things be discussed. And there is other possibilities that you might feel *so* depressed, that there's so much possibilities and good things been talked about, but you are not even one of them. Okay! Be that way. [Laughter] And use your depression as a realization of truth of suffering -- which is the first step you have made already, then. [Laughter] Or you been inspired, you had the Buddha fever. You're inspired, you have fever of Buddha, buddha-nature has already possessed you. So let it be *that* way. It seems that whatever we do, we can't go wrong. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd we could have some discussions, if you like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=1210.0,1306.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I have a question about this inspiration, or motivation. That it seems in hinayana terms the motivation is one's own suffering. In mahayana, at some point, it’s transferred in terms of compassion, so that one continues because one has a sense it's not for oneself, but for all beings. But I don't understand the motivation, or inspiration for the vajrayana, beyond that. Why one would one want to go further?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, the-- one of the interesting point about vajrayana is vajrayana does not need to be nursed. And it happens, that once you have developed... fullest level of compassion in the complete accomplished mahayanist, you find yourself being a vajrayanist. That's a general pattern that follows. And there is no particular motivation as such. The only thing is the sense of transcendental fascination to the universe. And its energy plays, and its relationships, its emotions -- everything is so magnificent display of mandala perspective. And you can't help yourself not looking at them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=1306.0,1393.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: In relation to that then, would one-- if mahayana is gone beyond wisdom -- the going beyond, going beyond the paramitas -- is itself then the vajrayana?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You could say that, yes. That's why the term \"anuttara\" means \"the highest one,\" or the \"nothing above,\" literally means.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: So in some sense it's *included* in mahayana?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We could say that too, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything you say! [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=1393.0,1435.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, where is spirituality in tantra? I mean it feels like it could be very materialistic.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How come?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It feels that way at times, that one relates to one’s perceptions of the world and the world as real. And not understanding it really beyond mahayana; it seems like the spirituality becomes vague. I mean what it really is-- why isn't it just spiritual materialism perhaps?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean that's why tantra-- if you just start with tantra, that could become a cultivation of Rudra. And it's very dangerous. And tantra can only develop by going through the other yanas first. Destroying spiritual materialism of all kinds of things. And in fact tantra is a very interesting thing -- that you can't say tantra is a spiritual thing exactly; nor it's a worldly thing. That's why tantra transcends samsara and nirvana. And there is a term... I don't remember how we translated that term, that \"born-within wisdom,\" that [Herbert] Guenther talks about in his book. Anybody has...?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Innate?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Something more than that. It's more complicated term.\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: \"Con-natural\".\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: \"Con-natural\". [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, that-- I did this translation of Tilopa’s songs [in the book THE MYTH OF FREEDOM], and it says it right at the beginning: that \"Homage to...\"\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Coemergent?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Coemergent wisdom, yeah. Coemergent wisdom, that's right. The idea of \"coemergent\" here is that you are on neither side -- side of the wisdom or side of the ignorance -- at all. So from that point of view a lot of the hinayanists panicked about tantra, because it's completely *unspiritual*. But on the other hand they can't say tantra is worldly, because there is nothing worldliness about tantra at all, it's-- because of its craziness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=1435.0,1599.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The last part, then would what be the difference, then, between Buddhism and Existentialism? I mean I'm not clear that there would be any difference at all, other than being in the world and being real? I'm not sure I understand Existentialism that well. Now you-- have you looked at it? Have you any thoughts on it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems that Existentialism is purely discovering knowledge, or what things all about. But in the Buddhism, Buddhist tantric approach particularly, it's not purely dealing with the information, but it is dealing with the actuality of real experience. I think that makes entirely different. That if Existentialist philosophers for instance, were to find the Existential *experience*, I'm sure they will panic. It's too close to home. I think that's the differences.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=1599.0,1673.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What would you give for advice on the dealing with people that are in vajna [sic] hell, as far as... yourself, and others that you might be able to see. And their aggression is used...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Did you say \"vajra hell\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that vajra hell, definition of vajra hell, once again, if I might go over it, is that having heard the teachings of vajrayana already, that you become-- instead of you become awakened you become deaf and dumb by the teachings. That the medicine turned into a poison. There's nothing one can do particularly. The only thing is that imprison them, in the vajra den, which is vajra hell. That it's like you have--your prison cell is made out of books about vajrayana all around you. They imprison you, but you might be interested sometime or other, just pulling out one, and maybe you might read it. That sheer claustrophobia brings some kind of hope. And it is a rather horrific place to be.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Would you give us an example of something that would be a vajna [sic] hell?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Vajra\" hell?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well, yeah. Would like a prison... Would a physical plane prison, of sorts, make any comparison to vajna [sic] hell?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so; it's much more than that. It's a total experience of cancer of your *whole* body. That you can't even die, out of it. 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And even one can't exist, but nonexistence of this threat has become your food to be alive.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: And there's no possibility of a future crevice, in terms of a bardo?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what's called the-- there are two types of things described in Tibetan Book of the Dead, is the... two types of advance, rebirth you can take place. Either go up, into the level of dharmakaya; you don't have a bardo experience. Or else, go down into the vajra hell; that there is no bardo experience. Because bardo is some kind of opportunity or chance you have.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So whatever form that energy manifests in it's always within the experience of vajra hell, regardless of form?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=1832.0,1893.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Should you avoid places or situations that vajna [sic] hell seems to be in--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: By all means. [Laughter] Sure, definitely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Would it be beneficial to try to help or to avoid...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well helping doesn't change the karma of that particular person.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So it would be best to avoid?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Best to leave it as they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=1893.0,1918.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But then how does that fit into the bodhisattva vow. The fact that nobody's going anyplace--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well bodhisattva vow doesn't include vajra hell. 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Once you identify with the teachings personally, then somehow that it ferment, like...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Wine.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Wine, yeah. It sort of ferments itself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=2024.0,2069.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: In order to go to vajra hell, you mentioned an analogy [makes circular gesture; laughter], about an electric fence around the cow pasture. Which, if the cow tries to go beyond the fence he's shocked; there's some sort of painful situation. So I took that to mean that that's sort of a safeguard, once a person is on the path. Which the spiritual friend, through his insight provides, right? Then in order to flip out, go to vajra hell, is it necessary for us to make some sort of egoistic assertion that our spiritual friend is no longer able to discriminate what's right for us? Is that what it's about? And left to go off on our own?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you mean that's the cause of vajra hell?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. There is some kind of alienation begin to takes place. That the story of the-- one of the first person who went to vajra hell is Rudra. Rudra. And he studied with a master. And somebody else studied with the master with him; his dharma brother. And they had a disagreement in their practice, because seemingly they are doing the opposite practices of complete extremes, and they both are sure that what they heard was true. And they decide to go and ask teacher's comment on it. And when the teacher said that, \"You are wrong,\" to the Rudra, and he was so upset and angry and he drew his sword and he killed his guru on the spot. And that then he end up in vajra hell. That kind of alienation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=2069.0,2192.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Is being in vajra hell equivalent to attaining egohood, or are they different things?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, vajra hell is not quite complete egohood. It's the-- still the journey. But when you come out of vajra hell, without any realization, then you obtain real egohood, which is rudra. You turn yourself into a demon.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: So you are not in vajra hell when you've attained complete egohood then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, egohood seem to be very difficult to attain, at the same time as enlightenment. Really good job is very difficult. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=2192.0,2236.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: In The Heart Sutra and The Third [Zen] Patriarch’s Verse on the Faith Mind, what deals quite a bit with emptiness. To transcend that seems to be tantric? What stage would that be?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That seem to be what mahayana journey is concerned, it's at the level of what's called \"seventh bhumi,\" which is the complete understanding of prajna. And the prajna experience is a realization of emptiness. But beyond that you have three more bhumis to go. Which is the eighth, ninth, and tenth. [Laughter] I think somebody actually clarified that in some writings of Dogen or somebody mentioned that. There's some reference to that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=2236.0,2319.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I guess there is some kind of fever going on. Like something's-- you know something is eating me up, but I am not sure, you know, which direction the fever is going. Because like I start wandering around and doing really goofy stuff. And you wonder-- I mean it just seems like you need to surrender something; you need to make some kind of act of surrendering. I was wondering, is it something that you can really try to do or do you just kind of wait and let it happen? Is it something you've got to stop trying on or...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see the general style, or the policy one might say, of this is that you have high ideals, right? You have some inspiration, of possibilities. And you can't quite click to it at the beginning, by spontaneous way. And way to do that is to make artificial openness, artificial surrendering. Which takes place at the beginning. That is precisely like taking a refugee vow or bodhisattva vow, is artificial one actually. You know, you are not up to it, but you are doing it. So such commitment begin to have effect on your state of being. Because for the very reason you can't wipe part of your past in your life. And that may being the part of landscape in your life. Then that artificiality begin to ferment, and to begin to work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=2319.0,2432.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87955/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we should stop there; there is further activities taking place this afternoon. And seminar is over, I think. I hope that you'll be able to make use of what we discussed, and all these things we talked about it. And it is very important that-- not to waste your time of this seminar. Whatever you have learned, what you are confused, whatever, that trying to put into some pragmatic, practical situations of your looking it again will be extremely useful.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd those who are going to stay here in Boulder, I would like to make this announcement. Is that we are planning to discuss the... at least to begin with, the hinayana and mahayana topics that we discussed, we studied, in the Wyoming Seminary, in Wyoming. That we are going to review it again. So if anybody interested in continuing, starting all over, and make sure that your understandings are complete. So there's opportunity for you. That those people who have studied under me at the Seminary are capable people. And I am going to choose some people for this particular purpose; that they could take you through this journey. So if anybody is staying behind, and this particular course is taking place, a replacement of the community talks. That there will be intensive study on the yanas is taking place. And hopefully you could take place this, we could start this after tenth of January sometime.\r\n\r\n\r\nThank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=2432.0,2597.82857"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87956","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19731215VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87956/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As we have\nalready discussed 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Rudra.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=1474.37,1478.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87956/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it's very dangerous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073#t=1478.76,1481.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164326/file/299073/transcript/87956/annotation/320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And tantra can only develop\nby going through\nthe other yanas 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