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Prajna as an undercurrent of previous stages of bodhisattva, with sixth bhumi as the final, peak experience of prajna. Sharp and precise, prajna exposes erroneous beliefs and brings a realistic view of the process of samsara as being a natural function of ego. Evolution of cognitive mind into dualistic mind. Prajna differentiated from wisdom, or enlightened state, which is beyond duality. \u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eApr 06 2020 to Jul 17 2023 Transcribing: Leandra Ziegler Checking: Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Terminology Review: Lodro Sangpo Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1972"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eThe paramita of the sixth bhumi is prajnaparamita, the highest form of cognitive mind. Prajna as an undercurrent of previous stages of bodhisattva, with sixth bhumi as the final, peak experience of prajna. Sharp and precise, prajna exposes erroneous beliefs and brings a realistic view of the process of samsara as being a natural function of ego. Evolution of cognitive mind into dualistic mind. Prajna differentiated from wisdom, or enlightened state, which is beyond duality.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled The Bodhisattva Path, held at Tail of the Tiger, Vermont. This is talk number six, March 30th, 1972. This is an ARP digital remaster made July 2006.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: [Jeremy Hayward] Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on the bodhisattva path, talk six.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sixth bhumi of prajna level that we are going to discuss today is one of the basic inspiration of bodhisattva, the prajna. So, might discuss that how this particular bhumi is exclusively paramita, prajnaparamita, or the transcendent knowledge. And not to… how did this experience exclude the other bhumis. And it seems that prajnaparamita that we are talking about the sixth bhumi level is more of a final peak experience of prajna. But there was a continual element of the prajna right from the beginning of-- even the level that we been talked about, the ordinary level, the path of accumulation. That from that level as well that we have the prajna experience continued. At the level where the student who takes bodhisattva's vow of becoming bodhisattva and begin to devote his life to sentient beings, that expression itself is expression of transcendent knowledge. But in the case of the sixth bhumi it talks about analogy of medicine. And the name of this bhumi is known as sort of materialized, \"actually materialized\" or \"actually accomplished\" bhumi that had actually accomplished or materialized the undercurrent that went on through the five rest of the stages. And this case this sixth bhumi is the actual accent of a bodhisattva's intelligence, prajna experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=30.0,239.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Word \"prajna\" is \"knowledge.\" In Tibetan term, \"sherap\", which means-- which is-- \"she\" or \"shepa\" is \"cognitive mind\" or just \"consciousness\", shepa. So when it becomes she*rap*, which is abbreviation of \"shepa tham-che kyi-rap\", which means \"the highest form of cognitive mind, the number one, alpha, the highest one, the primordial one, the first one, incomparable one.\" That is to say when the cognitive mind functions, it functions at the beginning in the level of purity, in the level of transcendental. And then it gradually reflects its process to dualistic relationship or dualistic play, so that cognitive mind becomes more fascinated to the projections, the reflections of this primordial sharpness. And then it becomes diluted because there is a fascination involved with that as well, and the fascination brings you down to the level of question, level of uncertainty. And then the cognitive mind become a split mind, the fundamental sense of a schizophreniac or dualistic mind react to the projections, one may react oneself another way, constantly switches on and off, so it becomes a dualistic process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=239.0,403.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in this case of sherap, the highest form of cognitive mind of prajnaparamita that we are talking about transcends that fixed notion of \"that\" or \"there\" or \"here.\" The dualistic process begin to transcend that level because it's first impression, before that split begin to exist. So in other word, we could say that we have constant prajna experience happens all the time with us. That the first flow is spontaneous and free of any conditions. And then we begin to grope onto these unconditioning expression which is colorful and free and beautiful. One begin to put them into categories or begin to acknowledge the split or the wall between the subject and object.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=403.0,468.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So this case the sherap, which is the highest form of cognitive mind, which is still sense of seeing the information as it is, but it is not quite at the same level as that of wisdom, or that of wise, or that of highest form of enlightenment at all. The difference between the flash of cognitive mind in the most purest form of prajna and that of wisdom, enlightened state, enlightened state of mind, flash of enlightened state of mind are the-- in the cognitive mind that we have sharpness, which flashes out. Because it is sharp, because it is precise, therefore, it instigate the dualistic split automatically because still regard the situation as knowledge rather than wisdom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=468.0,556.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That in the case of ordinary, direct way of looking at the term \"knowledge\" and \"wisdom\" is that from the Christian mysticism's point of view, that knowledge is regarded as much higher, is knowing. And wisdom is the ability to understand the knowledge. But in this case of Buddhist way looking at is quite different that because in any case the highest form of spiritual achievement, that is to say enlightened mind, is not regarded as information anymore at all, because it has not-- it was not a result of a revelation anymore. So that seem to be the differences. As long as you regard the highest experience could come from-- come through a revelation of something from foreign element, from outside, then obviously knowledge becomes more important, and wisdom is the expression that how knowledge is received. But in this case it's twisting around altogether. That because highest knowledge of enlightened mind is not product of external source, it is reawaken of itself. So therefore, the wisdom is just being wise, not depend on the informations, not depend on the knowledge, not depend on the of-- not depend on the \"intelligence\" as such in the ordinary sense of the word.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=556.0,679.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So therefore, in this case, the knowledge is the channel through that we could see the wisdom. In other word, you use knowledge and apply knowledge to collect informations or collect ideas, which might exist in external situations -- the writings of great teachers, or the oral teachings that handed down, or living situation which reminds us of learning process, teaching, whatever it may be -- that all that process is knowledge. Still there is dualistic split but it is profound one at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=679.0,734.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Having accumulated constantly that way of dualistic style of learning process takes place constantly. So finally, one begin to run out, so to speak, the response -- but one doesn't run out the informations but one runs out the style of handling these differences. And one get tired of it, extremely tired of it. And one doesn't want to respond to the depth or the profundity or the wiseness or the accuracy or whatever it may be. Finally one get tired of responding constantly all these different exposures that you are situated to. So that you begin to give up, but still there is constant informations coming through you but you can't care less. That's the level of wisdom, you might say, that you be wise to not react to anything but just let them come through. So then the information that comes through becomes a part of you, because you don't have to react to it. So reaction becomes the split, dualistic split. Or in this case of talking prajna level, that prajna is the sharp precision which cuts the dualistic barrier, it is known as the \"prajna\" -- prajnaparamita is often analyzed as being the sword of Manjushri. So this case that it is the direct experience of sharpness which blocks the further fascination of dualistic split. So therefore there is still some sense of effort, some still there's some sense of a subject-object relationship but it is transcendental subject-object relationship, but it is not based on any ego-level relationship at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=734.0,863.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that whole process of prajna therefore is the first encounter with the reality is like medicine as described in the bodhisattva path, which cuts the twofold veils as described. The first one is the veil of conflicting emotions, which is much closer to the watcher or the consciousness of ego, self-consciousness of ego. That the sense of meaningfulness of me, myself existing as I am, which brings all kinds of hate and love and ignorance and pride and all the rest of. The closest, the rugged one, the raw material type thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=863.0,928.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then the second veil is that of wrong belief about reality, which is a much more refined one, that less primitive, but still, that it is somewhat that mixture of Lord of Speech and that of spiritual materialism amalgamated together. The Lord of Speech is that which make things into categorize in terms of intellectually to fit into one's philosophical, scientific, mathematical concepts, make things easy to relate with it. So that one doesn't have to go through the experiences but just making into materialistic state, materialistic form or format. So one is able to enjoy the prefabricated qualities of it, one doesn't have to go through experiences of it. In the case of spiritual materialism, is that you do have some experiences but experiences are based on largely to develop oneself, to increase one's experiences. Which is automatically not to-- nothing to do with giving away at all, or surrendering, opening but constantly collecting, making more emphasis on ego as a spiritual being who is interested in the spiritual matter. So in other word, the spiritual materialism is that ego is converted into spiritual practices. But still that that conversion goes on with that ego trying to attain enlightenment. So what one generally achieve is egohood rather than buddhahood or enlightenment. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=928.0,1039.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the second veil is therefore amalgamation of those two aspects: concept and the experience behind the concepts, the sense of security, a sense of the good message, the good news that you received that you can save yourself without completely exploding yourself. It's a fantastic idea. And prajna is that exposing these mistakes, exposing these erroneous beliefs. So therefore prajna is the-- one of the most powerful thing of all, which cuts through these misbelievings both from intellectually and emotionally. And in other word that prajna, the sword of Manjushri, cannot relate it with-- cannot relate with the dualistic process, unless it has the dualistic-- has developed dualistic language of something, which is transcending knowledge, that highest form of cognitive mind. The symbolism of that is Manjushri's sword with the two edges, two blade, which cuts both the user as well as what's to be used.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1039.0,1145.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that's the cutting through the [UNCLEAR: ego of?] conflicting emotions. And also that the prajna brings the realistic outlook to the samsaric process. That samsara had to be understood or seen first before you regard it as a villain or something terrible. So consequently that when we begin to realize samsaric process is natural function of situation in terms of ego, rather than something terrible, evil one, that one begin to accept the samsaric flow or samsaric process and begin to tame samsaric process. And that begin to develop language of nirvana through the samsara, which is the expression of prajna or highest form of intellect, highest form of intuition. Which is like the medicine which cures the sickness or psychosomatic sickness of ego. Because basically sickness comes from the originally-- basic twist comes from the-- distortion comes from the cognitive mind which goes too far. And begin to twist its basic process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1145.0,1239.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And bodhisattvas who reach this sixth bhumi is like somebody is on the training ground, somebody has learn how to be warrior, how to apply his experience to his living situation of sentient beings. So in other word, the homework a bodhisattva has accomplished when he-- as soon as when he's able to experience prajnaparamita, the physical exercise of the bodhisattva is completely accomplished. Of course while the physical exercise of bodhisattva is taking place at the same that his application with other people, working with other people, happens spontaneously as well. But so far up to this point, the bodhisattva's work is largely based on the development process -- still there is a faint notion of development with a keen interest toward compassion to other sentient beings, undoubtedly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1239.0,1310.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in some sense you could say that those-- this particular bhumi stage of sixth bhumi until to the level of seventh bhumi, which is turning point -- until that point, that bodhisattva still would have the possibilities of regressing. Because if bodhisattva discontinue his training course, so to speak, then there is possibilities of all kinds of distractions begins to comes up. The positive and negative are seen as one as both are part of the pattern, begin to shaken its picture, change its picture pattern. The positive begin to threat-- the negative begin to threaten you and positive begin to seduce you, so there is possibilities of regressing at that point. So the prajna experience, knowledge experience, transcendental knowledge experience this case becomes very important is leading point towards the highest stage of bodhisattva path.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd since this is quite an important subject, we perhaps should stop there and discuss-- have a discuss on it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1310.0,1379.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, when the bodhisattva, when he reaches the sixth bhumi and he sees that the positive aspect of his mind can seduce him and the negative can confuse him, I mean, would there-- when he realizes there is possible regression, how does he view this? Does he view this with like wisdom and [INAUDIBLE WORDS] or in some other way?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1379.0,1415.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well if he's being threatened or seduced, then it's point of regression. Whereas as you see them as part of creative process, then he's advancing his journey on the spiritual path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1415.0,1435.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: Then he merely accepts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1435.0,1437.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. That doesn't mean to say one have to give up the evaluation of positiveness and negativeness at all, seeing them as they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1437.0,1454.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is prajna the same thing as the gap?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1454.0,1457.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, prajna doesn't seem to be the same as the gap. That's the whole point of it's not being the-- of enlightened glimpse. But it is that particular energy which arises from the gap, which begin to act out, you know, the begin to acknowledge that there is a gap or whatever it may be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1457.0,1493.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I think you said that the sixth bhumi was the point at which it becomes irreversible?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1493.0,1498.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sixth bhumi is what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1498.0,1499.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: Is where the path becomes irreversible, there's no turning back or crawling back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1499.0,1504.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's the level of seventh bhumi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1504.0,1507.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: I see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1507.0,1507.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Still one more bhumi to go. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1507.0,1515.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, my question concerns the ceremony we had in the shrine room. You mentioned something about relating with the lineage and accepting the karmic-- you brought karma into this also somehow. Accepting us all to the karmic responsibility or a karmic link with the lineage. Could you just sort of clarify on that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1515.0,1543.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well in some sense you might say it's like a marriage, from that point of view, looking very simply. 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In terms of prana-- paramita.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1655.0,1660.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1660.0,1660.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1660.0,1661.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: How-- what-- where is the energy, what determines the direction?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1661.0,1666.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the direction is sort of born within. That once you begin to relate, or even once one begin to relax, that situation to relax is a natural situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1666.0,1690.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: But there's no concern for consequences.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1690.0,1692.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, there's no concern for consequences.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1692.0,1693.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: Is this something that's good to emulate?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1693.0,1696.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, it's not a question of emulating but it's a question of just purely developing faith in the neutral state. Once there is neutral state of unconcern -- either terms of two veils or the subject and object dualistic fixations -- and then there is further energy begin to arise, which are unconditional energies. Which is the energies of the world, quite simply. So in other word, the world isn't impure from that point of view, or confused, but *we* are confused. It's the same analogy of the sun is behind the cloud as we think, but actually we are behind the cloud. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1696.0,1759.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Rinpoche, would you expand a bit further on the-- you said that the-- at this point the bodhisattva begins to get tired of the knowledge that's coming in. How does that tiredness manifest itself? I mean like, it would impossible for it to be annoying, annoyance or whatever? I mean like -- would you develop that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1759.0,1789.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see the whole point is that one begin to develop simplicity. That one doesn't have to overwhelmed by particular thing at all, because these things are natural organic situations. 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So this case it is not a shock but it is a part of the common sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1815.0,1829.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER6: Well where did the tiredness come in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1829.0,1830.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1830.0,1831.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER6: Where does the tiredness come in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1831.0,1833.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because it's so-- it's because you are not keen on not particularly much as informations come to you but you are not particularly concerned of improving yourself particularly. And therefore you are tired of responding to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1833.0,1848.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER6: And there's no more questions at this point then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1848.0,1851.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No more questions at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1851.0,1852.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER6: Or questions--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1852.0,1853.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean there may be questions but the answers comes as disguised the questions automatically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1853.0,1862.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER6: Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1862.0,1863.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The answers disguise as questions. So it's one process -- question is answer. There may be question, but question become an answer. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1863.0,1891.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER6: Then at this point he ceases to be a student.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1891.0,1894.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Still--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1894.0,1896.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER6: Student being one who asked the questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1896.0,1898.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Still may be student, but it's a careless student. [Laughter] Very confident student.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1898.0,1916.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What did you mean when you said, the problems start because the cognitive mind goes too far?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1916.0,1924.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Problem starts?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1924.0,1925.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7: You said the problem is that-- the basis of the problem is that the cognitive mind goes too far.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1925.0,1930.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well it seem that cognitive mind, the prajna mind, sees things clearly. Then suddenly want to see things further clear, more clear, and wanted to dive into the perfection. That sense of perfection becomes a dualistic hang-up, ambition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1930.0,1977.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Would it be easy to mistake first impulses from first impressions, and impulses [INAUDIBLE]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1977.0,1985.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean basically speaking that there is no such thing as first impulse at all, at this level, when we talk about prajna level. That impulse are always the secondary one, secondary reactions -- that's why you have impulse. So the first one is when the impulse even manage to get itself together to become impulse. So, it's sort of infrared speed. That's why *prajna*paramita, transcendental, or [INAUDIBLE], wisdom gone beyond, knowledge gone beyond.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1985.0,2026.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER8: Is there anything left to watch this happening?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2026.0,2029.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Itself. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2029.0,2035.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: So this is still a dualistic awareness?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2035.0,2040.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Figuratively speaking, yeah. I mean it's not dualistic fixation, but it is dual situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2040.0,2049.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: Of what and what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2049.0,2050.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2050.0,2051.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: What are the two aspects?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2051.0,2053.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The dualistic fixation is reference and reaction, in terms of contain-- holding onto to one's own territory, whether subject is winning the war or the object is winning the war. But in this case -- I mean, that's dualistic fixation. But in this case, it is not as strong or heavy as that at all, it's just a natural distinction of there are two things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2053.0,2090.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: And there seems to be a quality of this which begins to undermine dualism?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2090.0,2098.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which point?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2098.0,2100.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: Well, I was thinking that a model would be [INAUDIBLE WORDS] of union, the subject and object [INAUDIBLE WORDS].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2100.0,2113.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see, I mean what do you mean by \"dualism\", which-- I mean, what is your definition of \"dualism\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2113.0,2120.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: I suppose it is-- a dualistic awareness is an awareness in which there is awareness a subject has of an object. [INAUDIBLE WORDS] idea of awareness intentionally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2120.0,2134.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2134.0,2135.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: Subject and object.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2135.0,2136.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2136.0,2137.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: And also an awareness of the world full of distinctions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2137.0,2143.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2143.0,2144.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: Plus or minus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2144.0,2145.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well, you see that kind of awareness is not simple one as we think. A sort of a simple awareness of just being aware of who you are, what you are. And that kind of noetic awareness has implication behind it all the time. To maintain the situations, all the time, it involves tremendous effort and maintenance. So in that kind of dualistic thing is fixation, definitely. But in terms of enlightened mind, dualistic experience is just seeing that enlightened person is not confused person. I mean, he would be able to distinguish between him and the others.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2145.0,2197.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: Well, is there any kind of enlightenment in this path which is in no sense at all dualistic? I mean, [INAUDIBLE] along the local cosmic [UNCLEAR: cooks? books?] talk about [INAUDIBLE] the absolute, things like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2197.0,2219.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean definitely yeah, sure, but that's another way of speaking. In fact, in this point in the enlightened state one doesn't talk about union at all. One talk about \"not two\" rather than union, which is quite different. Union can have two things, \"that\" and \"that\" united together. It's like how water and milk pour together, so each other dilutes each other. And \"not two\" -- \"advaita\" which is Sanskrit word -- which is even there is no union, [laughs] because it is one, intrinsically one, therefore there is meaning as well at the same time, which is the-- [laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2219.0,2279.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Suzuki Roshi says, \"Not one but not two.\" What does he mean by that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2279.0,2283.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2283.0,2283.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: Suzuki Roshi says, \"It's not one and not two.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2283.0,2286.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you said what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2286.0,2287.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: It's not one and not two.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2287.0,2290.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you say, \"Not one and not two\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2290.0,2291.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2291.0,2291.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In what kind of context?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2291.0,2294.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: In his book, he's speaking of duality and the nonduality is not two, but it's not one either--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2294.0,2301.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, I see, yeah, I see what you mean.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2301.0,2303.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: Well, I don't. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2303.0,2313.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if it's not two, it can't be one, could it? I mean, you can't say, \"It's one or the two,\" but you can only say, \"It's not two.\" You see, that's the whole point. I'm sure mathematically correct. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2313.0,2335.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: Then you mean not--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2335.0,2338.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you say \"one\", in order to reinforce one you have to have two to confirm its oneness. So only way to say neither is \"not two.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2338.0,2349.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: Then it's not a Buddhist point of view; you could say, \"It's one universe.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2349.0,2354.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2354.0,2355.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: You can't in fact, I mean--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2355.0,2356.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't have any you can. I mean you can't have that kind of an ecumenical attitude. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2356.0,2376.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Do you ever reach a level where there's something to do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2376.0,2378.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Would you what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2378.0,2380.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11: Do you ever reach a level where there's something to *do*?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2380.0,2385.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that if you reach a level, that automatically is doing something. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2385.0,2399.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Yes, I have a problem of coping with guilt connected with decisions and actions. Almost on every occasion, that comes up: did I act optimally, if at all correct? That is, I would have not been brought up in a certain tradition or ritual or anything, so every time I'm confronted with something, am I doing it right? And how do you cope with that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2399.0,2425.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's not a question of coping with that and regarding that as a hang-up, that's the first starting point. That once you begin to reinforce your hang-ups, whatever it may be, as hang-ups, then you are enlarging the problem automatically. And one doesn't trying to exclude it or one doesn't try to include it, but particularly just trying to relate with that experience and where the guilt feeling comes from, how does it work. If you really become completely one with that guilt feeling, that you have no subject and object from that sense. Because guilt feeling is to make you guilty, so if you become part of the guilt feeling, then guilt feeling has no one to make-- anyone to guilty of. It's a question of honesty from that sense, really getting into it, really getting into the nitty-gritty of it. And not regarding as with whole experience of that, \"Guilt feeling is a powerful thing, it's contagious thing. I have to destroy it, or put antiseptic on it,\" or whatever it may be. But it is just purely relating with it, as though it's a simple discursive thoughts, it *is* simple discursive thoughts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2425.0,2510.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: Fact of life, irritation. Accept there's a fact of life and don't let it slow down the [INAUDIBLE] of your actions [INAUDIBLE]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2510.0,2515.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there would be a creative situations of life, yeah. I mean simpler relationship you have with it, is much more profound or easy to relate with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2515.0,2534.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: I'm not totally clear. Should one permit it to act as an inhibitory force? As if I could question everything, I'm more comfortable not acting, like releasing my actions as few as possible. Unless, in order to live with it, I have to take risks--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2534.0,2558.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see the whole point is--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2558.0,2559.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: --[INAUDIBLE] like that to continually prohibit [INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2559.0,2561.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. You see the whole point is not so much of acting out or not acting out, but it is the attitude of it. Acting out is also is-- it also is escape, and not acting out is also escape. Unless one is able to relate with the energy that there is, which says \"act\" or \"don't act\" and one can relate with abstract quality of that particular guilt. So then one begin to realize acting out is also irrelevant, and suppressing is also irrelevant once you made a relationship with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2561.0,2603.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: But is the guilt purely subjective? Is there some reality, so to speak, outside that makes that thing guilty? Or is just my completely hang-up that insincerity or lack of confidence is concerned?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2603.0,2614.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well usually it is a result of indoctrination of some kind. Like you don't put salt and sugar together, and doesn't sound right even though might taste right, but we have some psychological fixation that one doesn't do those things. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2614.0,2645.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: When you say become one with the abstract quality of the guilt, is that sort of the temperature or color of it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2645.0,2652.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, it's the living energy which has the texture and the temperature, yeah. It's the-- it is sort of-- it is not conditioned by acting or not acting really, but it has its own basic energy, just purely relating with the energy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2652.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER15: So you could say relate to it as a vibration.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2670.0,2675.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somewhat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2675.0,2680.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER14: So you wouldn't take any action from it, you just sort of experience it as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2680.0,2684.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Experience it, yeah. If you take action that is also an escape, because you fail to the \"isness\" quality of the particular energy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2684.0,2697.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: And you said the way to find the texture, the abstract quality and energy, is to become one with the manifestation of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2697.0,2712.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Depends on what you mean by \"becoming one.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2712.0,2715.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER16: Well I don't exactly feel it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2715.0,2716.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2716.0,2717.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER16: Feel the [INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2717.0,2718.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Feeling what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2718.0,2719.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER16: Take a feeling of guilt or of a taste of a food or something like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2719.0,2727.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's getting… it's somewhat familiarizing with the-- that mystery. Usually it has a quality of unknown, uncertainty. That \"I have this problem, I don't know how to deal with it because it is mysterious to me. And I read books about it, but still, or I been to the analyst but still, it still become further mystery to me.\" So you built whole big aura about around the whole thing. So the question is that it is not mysterious but it is just expression that you have, that you have created. And by acting out, or not acting out, doesn't particularly solve the problem. Maybe solve the problem in short run, but still you have the memories of the mysteries still remains. So the idea is trying to make it into ordinary, or simple, and precise and sharp and colorful, so to speak. Once you begin to simplified it as a process of thought, process of abstract thing, then we begin to be able to relate with it because there is no implication involved behind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2727.0,2818.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: But do these energies, are they-- do they usually arise completely from our own projections, just from the ego, or do they arise and have something to express, to be communicated? It seems like the process that you're talking about is very much, you know, could become contemplating your own navel. Sometimes it might have something that needs to be expressed as part of a communication.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2818.0,2846.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's both, that it has-- it is the innate nature of unceasing energy. But it is at the same time a distortion, as well. I mean that's the problem, you see, you can't completely punish it or you can't completely indulge into it -- that's the biggest problem -- I mean, it is both. So therefore, there is the conflict begin to arise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2846.0,2876.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Rinpoche, when these energies start manifesting -- you know the positive energies from meditation or whatnot -- start to become aware that you know, you can start, that you can almost overcloud your-- how do you direct these excess-type energies? You know so they can work, you know, positively, not to cloud over your own judgment or to cloud, you know, where you were trying to go. How do you, you know, direct these, you know, overwhelming positive energies, you know, these feelings of, you know, the type of goodness, or you know, whatever that may be? Do you, you know, do you try to quell them? Or do you, you know, you feel something overwhelming, you know, coming upon you or something like that, you know -- where do you start with these energies, working with these energies?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2876.0,2926.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you mean would you put into a physical application?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2926.0,2930.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER18: I don't know if I can... you know, you just in excitement, you know, a high physical excitement, you know, that you feel that if you got into it totally that you'd like lose, or feel that you might lose something, or...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2930.0,2950.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean the trouble seem to be there is that you want to constantly trying to watch yourself experiencing it. That you don't want to lose the big event taking place there. And one doesn't have to witness it, and in fact one can't. And if one give up the attempt to witness it, then probably you will experience it properly because you don't have to divide yourself into two sections: one is the commentator, the photographer, the other one is the person who take part in the ceremony.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2950.0,2995.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER18: It-- yeah I guess... yeah. It's like what happens when you get to the point where you just want to scream, you know. The energy is so incredible -- should you scream? You know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2995.0,3007.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you can, but I doubt you can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=3007.0,3009.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER18: Yeah. [Laughter; Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=3009.0,3021.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Al?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=3021.0,3022.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNCONFIRMED AL: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] Last evening, with the ending of the talk, you were going and saying about the bodhisattva, he goes through, and once he is awakened that that's the spot wherever he is. You said that he automatically goes through with an organic manner. And it becomes so his actions and his thoughts, that it just sort of molds to that plane. Now I was thinking last night, and this morning, and I had to go back to the book MEDITATION IN ACTION. And then I had to start *all over* again, [laughter] back to the manure of experience. Then I went to the manure of experience and then it reminded me of some county fair [laughter] where there was a prize for who can grow the largest tomato. [Laughter] I know I'm going way out to the North Pole. Now, the man who grew the largest tomato, he said how he did it, you know. He said that, he-- I can't explain it [INAUDIBLE WORDS]. [Laughter; laughs] And he planted the manure at a certain distance, and when he planted that manure at a certain distance he was able to direct who had to win the prize of the planting of the tomatoes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=3022.0,3145.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, [laughter] we're going to come back to the human being. [Laughter] How do you-- I'm asking a question that I'm going to ask you is that the Diamond Sutra. *You* tell *me* how we could generate ourselves to the awakening point to be organically changed to ourselves and so forth. And then I can say to you, \"you tell me,\" and I can to say you, \"you don't tell me,\" both ways. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=3145.0,3196.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Rings gong] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=3196.0,3216.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UNCONFIRMED AL: That's all, I'm through. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=3216.0,3240.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=3240.0,3249.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[unknown incident; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=3249.0,3258.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: What we've been talking about today seems very much more remote and mysterious than the other stages that we've talked about. And somehow, like I can't-- don't have much of a grasp of it. Could you explain how prajna develops out of the fifth stage of meditation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=3258.0,3276.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: From the fifth one?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=3276.0,3279.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER21: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=3279.0,3279.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=3279.0,3280.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER21: I still can't tell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=3280.0,3283.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, because the awareness of-- awareness practice, meditative practice, meditative state of seeing that there is the life situation becomes part of the reminders of awareness constantly happen. That every action, every reaction, what happens in your life situation becomes the meditative state constantly, all the time. And because of that then it begin to affect the precision of that meditation. In other word, it is from the idea of… prajna helps to step out of the absorption of awareness, of previous state of bodhisattva, that-- which comes from the absorption itself in other word. Because you get into everything, you begin to see the energies of living situation as a reminder of your awareness. And then one begin to realize there is energy already, so something sort of shakes you somewhat. And the whole, basic meditative state begin to turn around, so to speak, and begin to become a sharpness rather than purely calmness alone. So that's where the finally, supposedly according to the scriptures, bodhisattvas cuts the root of wrong-believing about reality that level -- the second veil begin to cut that level. Which is an equal level to arhat, who attains enlightenment, who attains arhathood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=3283.0,3404.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the difference between arhats and bodhisattva this case is that arhats haven't apply the six paramitas as application, but just purely meditative practice. That he gone through the six jhana state, four jhana states, and everything, he got to that point of absorption, up to the-- up to the fifth bhumi. And then arhats have to come back to bodhisattva path. And they have to awakened up by prajna experience -- that their awareness and absorption is not the precise experience anymore at all, but it's the sharp experience. So it's in other word, prajna is awakening process, further awakening process. But still it's-- one sense it is meditative state still. And next bhumi which is being the upaya [UNCLEAR: thing?] which had to still bring out a bodhisattva more and more clear perception, still, had to be brought out. In other word, the prajna in this case is the combination of upaya and jnana is the prajna level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=3404.0,3481.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Rinpoche, while he's heading towards this bhumi does he still have the great joy of the first bhumi? I mean, I'm just curious of the psychological state of [INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=3481.0,3491.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well as long as there is generosity, there will be joy, still. I mean joy becomes much, much more deeper in some level, this level. And it doesn't become a struggle anymore, less a struggle, less and less exchange.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=3491.0,3524.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: You spoke about the way we mentally put things in compartments. And I got the impression you were indicating that wasn't very, ultimately useful way because it kind of finally breaks down. But it seems that the way we learn things is by fitting them into the, you know, in among the compartments we already have. So I'm a little confused on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=3524.0,3549.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's-- categorizing is valuable, up the point of you begin to see the headlines of things. But it is not valuable at the level of when that contents of that headline had to be felt or experienced properly. So there is some blockage. I mean like you have the list of names and towns where you're going to go, and you know the different provinces of that particular area, but still you have to go through it, you need the map as well at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=3549.0,3602.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64017/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm. We might have to close at that point. Any announcements to make? No? Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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In terms of prana--\nparamita.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1655.93,1659.79"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64018/annotation/458","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: Yes.\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1659.79,1661.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64018/annotation/459","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: How--\nwhat-- where is the energy,\nwhat determines the 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Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1861.84,1863.05"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64018/annotation/507","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nThe answers disguise\nas questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=1863.05,1866.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64018/annotation/508","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it's one process --\nquestion is 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that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2216.33,2217.93"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64018/annotation/583","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nWell, I mean definitely yeah,\nsure,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2219.12,2221.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64018/annotation/584","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but that's another\nway of 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Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2282.42,2283.79"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64018/annotation/597","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10:\nSuzuki Roshi says,\n\"It's not one and not two.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2283.79,2286.35"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64018/annotation/598","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nIf you said 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oneness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2340.56,2344.42"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64018/annotation/616","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So only way to say\nneither is \"not two.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673#t=2345.63,2348.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121532/file/226673/transcript/64018/annotation/617","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10:\nThen it's not a Buddhist\npoint of 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